Non Pro's

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e4d26f05-da0e-46d9-8974-75d4b336e047[/URL]

$400 on casual meets.

$1000 on intimate ones.

$400 for her to grace you with her presence. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/82145ef0-890d-44d0-bc27-a4218d7f2636[/URL]

First says $600 PPM. Then informs you she is post op trans. Not for me!

So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play.

So I really looked at what was really happening. I'm 66 and a big guy. 6'2" 250. Just so you know what these babies where looking at.

Over 98% of the messages I got they never looked at my profile. 60% were messages being returned after I favorited and wrote them a message. So tell me if you got a message from a baby what is the first thing you do: LOOK AT THEIR PROFILE.

A lot of them wanted to meet for a price. I did just one and she was phucking weird. We meet at Daniels and when she sat down next to me I put my hand on her leg and she jumped 10 feet in the air and put 6' between us. That my friends was the biggest red flag I have ever seen. I should have just walked out the door and gone to The Spot in Renton and had a beer. But noooo, I wanted to see how this played out. And guess what, ok you guessed right. She was wacky as they come. Had dinner and said I talk with you later. The then texted me an hour later saying how much fun she had and wanted to do it again. She even put hearts on it. Um NO.

Over the month I favorited over 80 babies. I would say 6 looked at my profile and didn't respond. I always send a nice message when I favored a baby.

I stayed off for a week and not one baby viewed my profile. Now I don't know if it's my age or there are too many fakes on there. I have been told that I one don't look my age and two I am handsome by girls around me that have no agenda.

So bottom line I think 95% of there profiles on there are fake or crazy. I'll keep you posted on the two babies I might try to kook up with.

Have a great hunt my friends.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5910262]So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play..[/QUOTE]You know, I read your post and gave it quite a bit of thought because I think very, very highly of SA. Like so much so that I can't believe I ever wasted my time touching a TNA, STG, or whatever girl. While I do agree that a lot of the profiles (most of the profiles?) are fake, there are just so many women on there that it doesn't matter. It makes it a lot more work to dig through things, but with SA I always have more options than I can schedule. But maybe it is an age thing. I'm 45 and fit so maybe that makes a difference? The reason why I say this is that another guy on here had commented that he's gotten to an age where SBs are less likely to fuck him for free and I too agree with that. It used to be in the past that I'd take them to a nice restaurant, do some sort of activity, and then we'd go back to my place in exchange for some financial help. But after that, it was really common to have the girl contact me because she wanted to be taken out again and it would all play out the same way except no money would be exchanged. I found that over the past couple years, that doesn't happen anymore and in fact, I recently asked one of my SA girls if they wanted to go to Las Vegas with me one weekend and she replied that while it sounds fun, she really needs financial help so she'd prefer I help her that way rather than take her traveling. That has NEVER happened before!

So maybe in 20 years, I'll be in the same situation that you're describing. My initial instinct was that you're doing it all wrong (I. E. That you're "attracted" to fake profiles as opposed to real ones etc.), but maybe it's something more intrinsic to you. You said you don't look your age and women have called you handsome. Have you considered lying about your age on SA? As men, we don't do that shit but I'm really curious if maybe you're somehow older than what those SA girls want?

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5910262]So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play.

So I really looked at what was really happening. I'm 66 and a big guy. 6'2" 250. Just so you know what these babies where looking at.

Over 98% of the messages I got they never looked at my profile. 60% were messages being returned after I favorited and wrote them a message. So tell me if you got a message from a baby what is the first thing you do: LOOK AT THEIR PROFILE.

A lot of them wanted to meet for a price. I did just one and she was phucking weird. We meet at Daniels and when she sat down next to me I put my hand on her leg and she jumped 10 feet in the air and put 6' between us. That my friends was the biggest red flag I have ever seen. I should have just walked out the door and gone to The Spot in Renton and had a beer. But noooo, I wanted to see how this played out. And guess what, ok you guessed right. She was wacky as they come. Had dinner and said I talk with you later. The then texted me an hour later saying how much fun she had and wanted to do it again. She even put hearts on it. .


Have a great hunt my friends.[/QUOTE]There are probably a variety of factors involving your lack of success. First off though, you don't put your hand on someone's leg that you just met. Actually, don't even touch someone new unless they initiate it.

The rest is difficult. It could be a bad photo (I have a female friend who is on SA that regularly sends me terrible photos of men that contacted her). It could be who you're contacting, someone 20 YO isn't going to want be with someone their grandfather's age. Realistically, you should be concentrating on people in their 40's. In the end, your age is probably the biggest factor.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5910262]So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play.

So I really looked at what was really happening. I'm 66 and a big guy. 6'2" 250. Just so you know what these babies where looking at.

Over 98% of the messages I got they never looked at my profile. 60% were messages being returned after I favorited and wrote them a message. So tell me if you got a message from a baby what is the first thing you do: LOOK AT THEIR PROFILE.


So bottom line I think 95% of there profiles on there are fake or crazy. I'll keep you posted on the two babies I might try to kook up with.[/QUOTE]A couple things:

I am also 66 but put my birthday in 1965 instead of 1955. I also look much younger but I'm also in good condition, 6 ft, 180 lbs. I've never been questioned on my age.

I'm also amazed how few girls look at my profile. I think they must just go through their search results and favorite every guy. I don't show a face pic, just a rear photo. If we get to the point that we are messaging, I'll attach a face pic in the message.

I only pay SA if I'm on the hunt. Then I get serious about seeking, messaging, etc.

I've actually had better success with the mid-20's girls. I think the over 35 are looking more long term. I might be wrong but there's more younger ones looking for cash. My profile shows me as higher income.

My current regular is kind of expensive, $5 per playtime. But it's at her apartment, she's not cash strapped, and she loves sex. She works from home and we play in the late morning when my energy level is best. After we hooked up she hasn't even logged onto SA so it's all bare sex which is also a bonus. But. I can't help it, I going to start looking for some variety. I'd like to meet a 40-45 yr old to get something different.

So my recommendation, lie about your age, increase your net worth and income if you can back it up, improve your pics and like Michael said, mind your manners. Dress nice, don't wear cologne, learn to talk about them and compliment.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5910446]There are probably a variety of factors involving your lack of success. First off though, you don't put your hand on someone's leg that you just met. Actually, don't even touch someone new unless they initiate it.[/QUOTE]I wasn't going to give him a hard time about that because I know that all guys are different and what a guy can get away with also greatly varies. But at the same time, I also agree that you shouldn't touch her until she initiates or at least invites you to do so. The fact that the guy did that was pretty cringey as these aren't STG girls who immediately drop their clothes, climb into the bed and stick their ass up for you. I don't even say anything mildly sexual until we're back at my place and I've finished giving her the house tour. The tour typically finishes at the upstairs bedroom, she might make a comment about the view and then boom, the hookup naturally starts.

And the thing is, I'm not some hot Chad. I'm a 5'4" Asian guy with a below-average penis but at the same time, I wonder if being that type of guy has forced me to have better conversation skills and more game because quite frankly, no woman dreams about being fucked by a short Asian guy. So while I don't know the OPs exact situation, I would say to play it cooler on the initial meet and just work on talking to her. I guarantee that 90% of the time, she'll fuck you after dinner simply because she had a good time.

How did why'all do it? I can't even get her to look at my profile.

On a related topic, when I was on SA last year tons of women looked at my profile, liked, and had conversations. I joined again last month and it is pulling teeth to get any attention.

I haven't really changed my profile. What gives?

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5910976]I also agree that you shouldn't touch her until she initiates or at least invites you to do so.[/QUOTE]I have heard many times from girls that one of the reasons I ended up fucking them on the first date was in part because I was not all over them and give them space to make up their minds.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5910976]And the thing is, I'm not some hot Chad. I'm a 5'4" Asian guy with a below-average penis but at the same time, I wonder if being that type of guy has forced me to have better conversation skills and more game because quite frankly, no woman dreams about being fucked by a short Asian guy. So while I don't know the OPs exact situation, I would say to play it cooler on the initial meet and just work on talking to her. I guarantee that 90% of the time, she'll fuck you after dinner simply because she had a good time.[/QUOTE]Very sensible post. Most here treat women like shit or property. I am actually very athletic (no six pack abs, but lean and well manicured and well dressed) and above average in looks. At least that is what most women tell me. In spite of that I take your advice. I. E. Very respectful, polite (but not a chump either) and do not usually initiate a touch or grab until I get the green light. Most women will not initiate but they will give you ample signals that touching is welcome and I wait for at least the third or fourth signal after dinner a lot of wine and laughs to initiate anything. Being yourself, being genuine, polite, kind but also respecting your own boundaries (I. E. Not being an agreeable chump for every topic) is actually extremely attractive to women. Regardless of where / how you meet them.

[QUOTE=Loopguystl;5911856]How did why'all do it? I can't even get her to look at my profile.

On a related topic, when I was on SA last year tons of women looked at my profile, liked, and had conversations. I joined again last month and it is pulling teeth to get any attention.

I haven't really changed my profile. What gives?[/QUOTE]There's some shady shit with SA. It's already known certain premium girls can read the messages we send to others. I find it weird when I'm actively favoriting and messaging girls I'll get several profiles messaging me out of the blue.

Other girls have sent me messages where they already seem to know what I'm looking for. I'm convinced there's a section on the site or list somewhere these girls are referencing that has details about us mongers... Could be beneficial to periodically refresh your persona if you're not getting hits for whatever reason.

How do credits work on WYP? I know how much they cost (they're very clear about that) but can't find any info about how many credits is enough. Help? I've got plenty of offers happening, just haven't accepted any bc I don't know what's next.

[QUOTE=DeadEye206;5913233]How do credits work on WYP? I know how much they cost (they're very clear about that) but can't find any info about how many credits is enough. Help? I've got plenty of offers happening, just haven't accepted any bc I don't know what's next.[/QUOTE]So, when you and a woman agree on a date. You must "open" the conversation. To do this, you pay X number of credits based on the amount that you agree on. The woman cannot contact you until you pay those credits (I made this mistake at first and didn't understand why no one contacted me). Because of this, you need to be careful of the profiles that you set up dates with. For me, if they don't fill out what they are looking for and what they want to do on a date, I assume they are a fake profile. Also, there are women that will send you an offer for a date for $5, so you don't have to pay much to open the conversation and then will try and negotiate an amount with you based on what you're looking for.

Like SA, do not discuss sex for money in your messages, move to text or what other medium you use to contact women online.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5913400]So, when you and a woman agree on a date. You must "open" the conversation. To do this, you pay X number of credits based on the amount that you agree on. The woman cannot contact you until you pay those credits (I made this mistake at first and didn't understand why no one contacted me). Because of this, you need to be careful of the profiles that you set up dates with. For me, if they don't fill out what they are looking for and what they want to do on a date, I assume they are a fake profile. Also, there are women that will send you an offer for a date for $5, so you don't have to pay much to open the conversation and then will try and negotiate an amount with you based on what you're looking for.

Like SA, do not discuss sex for money in your messages, move to text or what other medium you use to contact women online.[/QUOTE]It sounds kind of complicated and rife with the possibility of blowing a bunch of money for nothing. I think I may need to quit reading these threads and just try it though as from what you said, it sounds like a really, really good resource. For one, I browsed some women in the cities I will need to travel to in the upcoming couple months and there are way, way less women there. That alone makes me think it might be better because it sort of gives me the impression that there might be a higher percentage of real women on that site.

I appreciate your input here!

[QUOTE=Loopguystl;5911856]How did why'all do it? I can't even get her to look at my profile.[/QUOTE]Consider that she's not fucking her way thru Seattle only on SA. If she's not asking for money she's probably enamored with someone and will return when bored with them. The women I've met from there typically have one to three guys they're seeing or considering. If you're not it then your timing is off or your profile is; just move the fuck on. It's midterms at UW, SPU and SU or just was. Students attention spans comes in waves off SA.

As for her not looking at your profile specifically, her profile is premium. She can look at your profile and it won't show on your end if she sets it that way. I'm sure a clinical psych PhD student can figure that out. She very obviously has a lot of you figured out.