The nightmare in clear prose
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2904047]The problem with this, is if you show up to any back page ad and it's a sting, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED! Yes, I know the laws, yes you actually need to name a price for a sexual act, yes they need evidence, but it's not like that in this situation. Here's why. The cops "know" why you are there and you know, they know why you are there. Even in the freak chance you were there just for a chat, in their minds, YOU STILL SHOULDN'T BE THERE. So here is what you get:
They know the case will likely be dismissed, or tossed out if you did not actually solicit anyone. THEY DON'T CARE. You get arrested, you get booked, you get printed and photographed and humiliated all over the internet and on the local news. You have to make bail, get released and then hire an attorney and face a judge. You will have to appear in court 2-5 times before it's dismissed. Everyone makes money and it's job security for the prosecutors, judges, jails, court system and the attorney you'll have to hire, who is likely buddies with all these folks. (they have lunch and drinks together daily) Your attorney will file for continuations, hoping the arresting officer does not show up. He may or may not, but since system wants your ass, they will continue the case, you get to show up again and again, until MAYBE it gets dismissed. If it does not, you'll have to fork out more money to your attorney for a bench trial, that really has no merit and most judges just rubber stamp those cases. "you're here, you're guilty, oh I have lunch with his attorney in an hour" You're now part of a system. So eventually after spending $5000, having your name smeared, showing up for court a half dozen times, you get it dismissed. Six months later if you're lucky. You go apply for a job, it shows you were arrested for solicitation and the case was dismissed. Great, no criminal record, but your perspective employer, says, "next" you want this off your record, even though it's really nothing. You have to wait a year and spend another $1500 to have it expunged so it won't show at all.
All for simply showing up for a back page ad.
Sure, it's a minor charge, but who wants to go through all that?[/QUOTE]Dirty, you just summarized the ultimate penalty of this hobby. And what does this achieve for society? Two consenting adults want to get off, and are otherwise law abiding, probably productive citizens, and the entire system exhibits massive waste and destruction toward these citizens. Sickening.
Cops: Please go after real crime.
Beep. I saw that stun gun
[QUOTE=BeepBeepItsMe;2903143]I agree it s speculation at this point. We're just sharing info. In my experience, Crabtree has always been dicey. Nice, but I'm aware of at least two providers being approached by cops out there (neither arrested, only approached and questioned) -- and now this dumb sh*t.
I used to respect cops a lot more than I do now. Now? With this (and other) experiences, they are overall (not all) a bunch of self-important wannabe football heros with a superiority complex. Give it a break. Stop going after the girls and johns -- and focus on the REAL problem -- pimps and traffickers. If cops spent a fraction of the effort on finding them (and it is NOT hard) they would actually do some REAL good.
I read a couple of articles today that make me even more angry. 1) An attorney that exercised her right to remain silent and was arrested FOR THAT REASON. (She got let go because they finally figured out they were in trouble). 2) A young man that was stun gunned in a jail cell without cause. Died an hour later. Cops claimed he was fighting them. VIDEO evidence clearly shows otherwise.
Let me carry and hire private companies. FIRE the cops.[/QUOTE]That was sick. How in the world those cops are still a cop and not in jail. The family has a great civil case to get $$ but the cops will never see jail time. This one was sick.