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[QUOTE=WalterKovacs;4749914]This doesn't really give any insight on the menu. BBBJ? CBJ only?[/QUOTE]If you take the basic package (1. 2) you'll get a nice handshake. If you take the 2. 0 package you'll get covered BJ and FS, just like the other posters said.
[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;4750262][URL]https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB1524[/URL]
HB 1524 Prostitution; touching the unclothed genitals or anus of another, penalty.
Introduced by: Karrie K. Delaney.
SUMMARY AS PASSED:
Prostitution; touching the unclothed genitals or anus of another; penalty. Provides that any person who touches the unclothed genitals or anus of another with the intent to sexually arouse or gratify for money is guilty of prostitution, which is punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor. The bill also provides that any person who receives any money on account of procuring for or placing in a house of prostitution any person for the purpose of causing such person to engage in the touching of the unclothed genitals or anus of another person with the intent to sexually arouse or gratify is guilty of a Class 4 felony. As introduced, this bill is a recommendation of the Virginia State Crime Commission.[/QUOTE]Doesn't seem much different than the current law except different wording.
[QUOTE=GripNSip;4747417]Jiji was a breath of fresh air after getting dunked into the shit tank with my previous Thai excursion.
Appreciate the recommendation and she's definitely worth the price of admission.
Simple text to the handler. Now there was some back an forth and I offered to pay an early morning visit. Jiji wasn't originally on the table and I got sent a picture of nana with the handler telling me her friend nana was available during the time slot I asked for and frankly I was just looking to shoot my wand so I texted that nana was ok.
But a few minutes later "she" sent me a picture of Jiji with an apology saying she was a available if I could wait just 30 min more. While I haven't tried nana, I can tell you Jiji definitely looks the hottest of the bunch. So I was going to take that trade and made my appointment with Jiji. As stated before $$ gives you 1 hr massage and CFS which honestly is a great deal because it skips the whole need for a negotiation and thus never spoils the fantasy..[/QUOTE]I think Bena is Jewell, who some on here have liked, but she didn't do it for me.
[QUOTE=SlowBlo;4750389]Doesn't seem much different than the current law except different wording.[/QUOTE]It's just a way for the suits to pat themselves on the back and pretend like they are making a difference. "Mission accomplished" boys.
It won't change anything: adaptation is the forefront of evolution
[QUOTE=SlowBlo;4750389]Doesn't seem much different than the current law except different wording.[/QUOTE]Read this - [URL]https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/virginia-lawmakers-considering-expanded-definition-of-prostitution-to-help-prosecution/article_01fa4f5e-9461-5442-a03c-81aea3de3ee4.html[/URL].
In the hands of police (which may vary widely by jurisdiction) this law makes a rub and tug a prostitution bust. For everyone. After July 1st. That's something LE can't do today as only penetrative sex carries that charge. Under the current law it's not even clear if getting a handjob is illegal and no one is busted for just that. After July 1st it will be prostitution for provider and monger. Today they have to catch them doing or offering FS. After July 1st they just have to catch them giving a HE.
This law will give LE the tool they need to put AMP's out of business, and that's what they (with the support of politicians) intend to do.
Time to consider permanently decamping to Greenbelt for your post COVID-19 AMP fun.
[QUOTE=Mandane;4751006]Read this - [URL]https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/virginia-lawmakers-considering-expanded-definition-of-prostitution-to-help-prosecution/article_01fa4f5e-9461-5442-a03c-81aea3de3ee4.html[/URL].
In the hands of police (which may vary widely by jurisdiction) this law makes a rub and tug a prostitution bust. For everyone. After July 1st. That's something LE can't do today as only penetrative sex carries that charge. Under the current law it's not even clear if getting a handjob is illegal and no one is busted for just that. After July 1st it will be prostitution for provider and monger. Today they have to catch them doing or offering FS. After July 1st they just have to catch them giving a HE.
This law will give LE the tool they need to put AMP's out of business, and that's what they (with the support of politicians) intend to do.
Time to consider permanently decamping to Greenbelt for your post COVID-19 AMP fun.[/QUOTE]Is when you read these articles, they all say the same thing. The law is really going after sex trafficking. Trying to bring down the establishments that force their workers to perform sex acts. 100% of the AMPs I've dreamt of, are filled with mature, consenting, SWs who negotiate their prices and never have to feel "forced" to act.
The problem with these laws is in theory it's meant to combat trafficking and in practice it hurts genuine SW trying to scrape a living. To add insult to injury, it won't even hurt trafficking, because you simply won’t stop trafficking at the massage parlor. You have to attack it at the source and hint; it’s not at the MP. So they’ll never properly fight trafficking. So it's just ludicrous to label as such. It's Puritan bullshit and nothing more, they're just trying to use trigger words to draw more saps to the cause.
[QUOTE=GripNSip;4751025]Is when you read these articles, they all say the same thing. The law is really going after sex trafficking. Trying to bring down the establishments that force their workers to perform sex acts. 100% of the AMPs I've dreamt of, are filled with mature, consenting, SWs who negotiate their prices and never have to feel "forced" to act.
The problem with these laws is in theory it's meant to combat trafficking and in practice it hurts genuine SW trying to scrape a living. To add insult to injury, it won't even hurt trafficking, because you simply wont stop trafficking at the massage parlor. You have to attack it at the source and hint; its not at the MP. So theyll never properly fight trafficking. So it's just ludicrous to label as such. It's Puritan bullshit and nothing more, they're just trying to use trigger words to draw more saps to the cause.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure whether I'd call this "Puritan bullshit" considering that Virginia has moved far to the left in recent years. Just as there are plenty of do-gooders on the right, they exist on the other side of the spectrum as well. The Polaris Project is a prime example. What these professional scolds are doing is trying to label all consenting adults behavior as sex trafficking whenever an exchange of money is involved.
As for the new law, I wouldn't be surprised if this cuts down on the number of AMP's this side of the Potomac. However, it could be a boon for independents such as the various Thai providers in Northern Virginia. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
[QUOTE=NyHornet;4750587]I think Bena is Jewell, who some on here have liked, but she didn't do it for me[/QUOTE]Was going to point this out but couldn't remember the other name she went by. Bena is Jewell who others have reviewed and this outfit have worked together for some time from what I gathered. I was booked to see her one time but didn't pull the trigger, didn't really get the feeling I'm missing out based on mixed reviews.
Howdy all so I have been a member here for a while and a reader for even longer but thought I would post my first dream so as to contribute. Anyway, I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about meeting with one of the Thai ladies over in Tyson's. I did not know at the time I called that it was one that a few of you folks already knew but was new for me. Anyway I did not save the ad where in my dream I found the number, but contacted the number and inquired about a massage for soon thereafter. The responded was accommodating and I made an appointment to see her for an hour after I texted. The person (I hesitate to say she as I never spoke only texted) did ask for my name and race. Being a black man in this time for mongers seems to be tough as I have read about muggings and other such nonsense, plus I have found an overall bias against black men from non black ladies in this field. I am sure a few bad apples have soured some, but it is what it is, I will never beg a lady to see me if she does not want to see. Back top the main subject, I dreamt I pulled up to 1500 Logan Circle and texted for an apartment number, one was provided and I headed up. Was met at the door by a cute enough 30's Thai woman, I do remember she was older and different than shown in the picture, but was mid 30's and cute enough so I decided to go ahead. Inside was a curtain right behind the front door closing off the living room, but I did see several other curtained off massage areas. My dream self was led to a bedroom with a nice massage setup including a big massage table and all the expected extras, towel warmer, massage gel, all that jazz. The towels on the table looked clean and new for my dream so I was happy. Anyhow dream me provided the agreed upon $ . 2 for the hour massage, whereupon Mimi left and dream me got naked on the massage table. Now let me be clear, dream me has visited massage parlors all over this great land of ours from sea to shining sea and usually receives a mediocre massage and maybe an extra or two, as this was my first visit here and it was in the middle of this pandemic shit, dream me did not know what to expect. Well dream me hoped for at least a standard NOVA finish for the inflated $ . 2/ hr starting price but dream me was prepared to be underwhelmed. Anyhow Mimi was wearing some tight jean shorts and a tight top that showed off some nice cleavage, likely showing a full C when in the bra but I determined the bra was real tight and was pushing the ladies up and giving the illusion of a fuller bust. I realize I am jumping around a bit but that is just how my mind works remembering a dream from a few weeks ago, Mimi said she was from L. A. When asked where she was from (which is not what I meant and she knew it but oh well), but as I have been to Thailand several times I knew exactly where she was from once she started speaking in halting Thai accented English. Back to the main dream, Mimi provided an above average massage! Which was really quite enjoyable. I am a big strong guy and do not really feel light massages and they do nothing for me, so I always ask for hard pressure. Mimi delivered and dream me was very happy with the massage. That part lasted about 40 minutes maybe, not really sure as dream me does not take anything of value with me when going to meet a new masseuse especially when going to an apartment, only the agreed upon fee and some money for a tip if needed. The back massage is overall very pleasing and Mimi says to let her know when or if I want to roll over. Now this triggered my spidey sense as dream me was expecting at least a NOVA finish for $ . 2. Anyway I enjoy a couple more minutes of massage then ask to turn over. Now to the not so fun part of this dream. Dream me flips over and Mimi asks if I want a massage here, while pointing at my groin, now the back massage had very little in the way of teasing so I was not sure before then what was available. Dream me says yes to the front side massage whereupon Mimi asks how much I am going to tip her, now dream me mentions I paid $ . 2 already so if she wants more tip then just give me the NOVA finish and I will be on my way. She says the $ . 2 was only for massage, and wants another $ for the handy. Dream me is shocked and asks if she will get naked and can I touch. She says no, $ . 5 for topless and still only NOVA finish! This about kills my vibe, but I only had an extra. 8 on me as my limit for the day was $$. So I now know I will never be going back to see her or anyone from that location, so say fuck it tell her I only have. 8 and want to touch her while she NOVA's me. Dream me says this knowing I will never finish from an HJ without touching at least over the clothes and likely will not even then. Long story longer, she agrees as I imagine she is hurting for clients. Her true colors come through with a very lackluster NOVA job, her face is bored the entire time and keeps asking if I will cum every 2 minutes, like she wants dream me to hurry up. I will say her dream tits did feel decent even through her shirt. So I am lkaying there feeling kind of good with her effort but can start to tell I won't finish from her attempt. I take the matter in my own hands while she sits between my legs and dream me imagines fucking the daylight out of what looks like a reasonable ass. Hahahahaha, dream me finishes, Mimi cleans up dream me quite nicely and offers a shower. Dream me accepts, gets a towel and Mimi grabs my clothing and shows me to the bathroom and shower. I did appreciate her bringing my clothes into the bathroom so I could watch them, but I only had my car key attached to a belt loop and nothing else with me. Shower over, dream me dresses and Mimi walks me out. I can still hear other ladies talking when we walk past the curtained off living room but I do not see anyone else.
Long story real long it was a great massage even for that price, but everything else after that was a waste. I did ask if a larger tip would get more than just her top off but Mimi said nothing else was available. I am sure many of you fine mongering have been to this location already, but for those newbies at least you have some idea of what you are getting yourself into! Haha, stay safe out there mongers and ladies!
[QUOTE=FanofChaos;4752154]Howdy all so I have been a member here for a while and a reader for even longer but thought I would post my first dream so as to contribute. Anyway, I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about meeting with one of the Thai ladies over in Tyson's. I did not know at the time I called that it was one that a few of you folks already knew but was new for me. Anyway I did not save the ad where in my dream I found the number, but contacted the number and inquired about a massage for soon thereafter. The responded was accommodating and I made an appointment to see her for an hour after I texted. The person (I hesitate to say she as I never spoke only texted) did ask for my name and race. Being a black man in this time for mongers seems to be tough as I have read about muggings and other such nonsense, plus I have found an overall bias against black men from non black ladies in this field. I am sure a few bad apples have soured some, but it is what it is, I will never beg a lady to see me if she does not want to see. Back top the main subject, I dreamt I pulled up to 1500 Logan Circle and texted for an apartment number, one was provided and I headed up. Was met at the door by a cute enough 30's Thai woman, I do remember she was older and different than shown in the picture, but was mid 30's and cute enough so I decided to go ahead. Inside was a curtain right behind the front door closing off the living room, but I did see several other curtained off massage areas. My dream self was led to a bedroom with a nice massage setup including a big massage table and all the expected extras, towel warmer, massage gel, all that jazz. The towels on the table looked clean and new for my dream so I was happy. Anyhow dream me provided the agreed upon $ . 2 for the hour massage, whereupon Mimi left and dream me got naked on the massage table. Now let me be clear, dream me has visited massage parlors all over this great land of ours from sea to shining sea and usually receives a mediocre massage and maybe an extra or two, as this was my first visit here and it was in the middle of this pandemic shit, dream me did not know what to expect. Well dream me hoped for at least a standard NOVA finish for the inflated $ . 2/ hr starting price but dream me was prepared to be underwhelmed. Anyhow Mimi was wearing some tight jean shorts and a tight top that showed off some nice cleavage, likely showing a full C when in the bra but I determined the bra was real tight and was pushing the ladies up and giving the illusion of a fuller bust. I realize I am jumping around a bit but that is just how my mind works remembering a dream from a few weeks ago, Mimi said she was from L. A. When asked where she was from (which is not what I meant and she knew it but oh well), but as I have been to Thailand several times I knew exactly where she was from once she started speaking in halting Thai accented English. Back to the main dream, Mimi provided an above average massage! Which was really quite enjoyable. I am a big strong guy and do not really feel light massages and they do nothing for me, so I always ask for hard pressure. Mimi delivered and dream me was very happy with the massage. That part lasted about 40 minutes maybe, not really sure as dream me does not take anything of value with me when going to meet a new masseuse especially when going to an apartment, only the agreed upon fee and some money for a tip if needed. The back massage is overall very pleasing and Mimi says to let her know when or if I want to roll over. Now this triggered my spidey sense as dream me was expecting at least a NOVA finish for $ . 2. Anyway I enjoy a couple more minutes of massage then ask to turn over. Now to the not so fun part of this dream. Dream me flips over and Mimi asks if I want a massage here, while pointing at my groin, now the back massage had very little in the way of teasing so I was not sure before then what was available. Dream me says yes to the front side massage whereupon Mimi asks how much I am going to tip her, now dream me mentions I paid $ . 2 already so if she wants more tip then just give me the NOVA finish and I will be on my way. She says the $ . 2 was only for massage, and wants another $ for the handy. Dream me is shocked and asks if she will get naked and can I touch. She says no, $ . 5 for topless and still only NOVA finish! This about kills my vibe, but I only had an extra. 8 on me as my limit for the day was $$. So I now know I will never be going back to see her or anyone from that location, so say fuck it tell her I only have. 8 and want to touch her while she NOVA's me. Dream me says this knowing I will never finish from an HJ without touching at least over the clothes and likely will not even then. Long story longer, she agrees as I imagine she is hurting for clients. Her true colors come through with a very lackluster NOVA job, her face is bored the entire time and keeps asking if I will cum every 2 minutes, like she wants dream me to hurry up. I will say her dream tits did feel decent even through her shirt. So I am lkaying there feeling kind of good with her effort but can start to tell I won't finish from her attempt. I take the matter in my own hands while she sits between my legs and dream me imagines fucking the daylight out of what looks like a reasonable ass. Hahahahaha, dream me finishes, Mimi cleans up dream me quite nicely and offers a shower. Dream me accepts, gets a towel and Mimi grabs my clothing and shows me to the bathroom and shower. I did appreciate her bringing my clothes into the bathroom so I could watch them, but I only had my car key attached to a belt loop and nothing else with me. Shower over, dream me dresses and Mimi walks me out. I can still hear other ladies talking when we walk past the curtained off living room but I do not see anyone else.
Long story real long it was a great massage even for that price, but everything else after that was a waste. I did ask if a larger tip would get more than just her top off but Mimi said nothing else was available. I am sure many of you fine mongering have been to this location already, but for those newbies at least you have some idea of what you are getting yourself into! Haha, stay safe out there mongers and ladies![/QUOTE]I had a similar dream in Tysons. Might be the same place. I told her I wanted everything and she said HJ for 100. I told her no way tipped her 20 and left.
I also had Jiji on the brains. After reading so much review I assume she would be stack with big cups maybe with red hair and light skin. Went up the door was open as I was waking up and felt like I got swap with Nana. There was another girl behind the curtains that I couldn't see. I Basically left cause I didn't want to be rude to ask and check the other girl out. Maybe next time. Or if anyone could really describe her.
[QUOTE=Asphalt;4749250]After reading the reports I had JiJi on the brain so I texted and set up an appointment. I've only been to that area once to visit someone in Luna's circle. She heard me walking up the stairs and had the door open as I made it to the landing. I didn't expect her to be quite that thick but it wasn't too much. I paid upfront and after she left the room to stow it she was back quickly and started the massage. It's not the best but she keeps up the good pressure while she sits or kneels on you. She gives you her full attention the whole time. It's funny though, for all she will do she really doesn't seem to like for you to play with her kitty using your hand. I was about to be disappointed at finishing early but then came the shower. Not bad.
Someone here said she was better looking than Nana. Well, then Nana probably doesn't make the grade.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlowBlo;4752448]I had a similar dream in Tysons. Might be the same place. I told her I wanted everything and she said HJ for 100. I told her no way tipped her 20 and left.[/QUOTE]I can't believe guys are paying 100 for a HJ. What is this world coming to. I can see if it was an enhanced HJ like full touch, daty, or something. But just a regular ol hand job? I've never met a lady who could HJ me better than me LOL.
[QUOTE=FanofChaos;4752154]Howdy all so I have been a member here for a while and a reader for even longer but thought I would post my first dream so as to contribute. Anyway, I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about meeting with one of the Thai ladies over in Tyson's. I did not know at the time I called that it was one that a few of you folks already knew but was new for me. Anyway I did not save the ad where in my dream I found the number, but contacted the number and inquired about a massage for soon thereafter. The responded was accommodating and I made an appointment to see her for an hour after I texted. The person (I hesitate to say she as I never spoke only texted) did ask for my name and race. Being a black man in this time for mongers seems to be tough as I have read about muggings and other such nonsense, plus I have found an overall bias against black men from non black ladies in this field. I am sure a few bad apples have soured some, but it is what it is, I will never beg a lady to see me if she does not want to see. Back top the main subject, I dreamt I pulled up to 1500 Logan Circle and texted for an apartment number, one was provided and I headed up. Was met at the door by a cute enough 30's Thai woman, I do remember she was older and different than shown in the picture, but was mid 30's and cute enough so I decided to go ahead. Inside was a curtain right behind the front door closing off the living room, but I did see several other curtained off massage areas. My dream self was led to a bedroom with a nice massage setup including a big massage table and all the expected extras, towel warmer, massage gel, all that jazz. The towels on the table looked clean and new for my dream so I was happy. Anyhow dream me provided the agreed upon $ . 2 for the hour massage, whereupon Mimi left and dream me got naked on the massage table. Now let me be clear, dream me has visited massage parlors all over this great land of ours from sea to shining sea and usually receives a mediocre massage and maybe an extra or two, as this was my first visit here and it was in the middle of this pandemic shit, dream me did not know what to expect. Well dream me hoped for at least a standard NOVA finish for the inflated $ . 2/ hr starting price but dream me was prepared to be underwhelmed. Anyhow Mimi was wearing some tight jean shorts and a tight top that showed off some nice cleavage, likely showing a full C when in the bra but I determined the bra was real tight and was pushing the ladies up and giving the illusion of a fuller bust. I realize I am jumping around a bit but that is just how my mind works remembering a dream from a few weeks ago, Mimi said she was from L. A. When asked where she was from (which is not what I meant and she knew it but oh well), but as I have been to Thailand several times I knew exactly where she was from once she started speaking in halting Thai accented English. Back to the main dream, Mimi provided an above average massage! Which was really quite enjoyable. I am a big strong guy and do not really feel light massages and they do nothing for me, so I always ask for hard pressure. Mimi delivered and dream me was very happy with the massage. That part lasted about 40 minutes maybe, not really sure as dream me does not take anything of value with me when going to meet a new masseuse especially when going to an apartment, only the agreed upon fee and some money for a tip if needed. The back massage is overall very pleasing and Mimi says to let her know when or if I want to roll over. Now this triggered my spidey sense as dream me was expecting at least a NOVA finish for $ . 2. Anyway I enjoy a couple more minutes of massage then ask to turn over. Now to the not so fun part of this dream. Dream me flips over and Mimi asks if I want a massage here, while pointing at my groin, now the back massage had very little in the way of teasing so I was not sure before then what was available. Dream me says yes to the front side massage whereupon Mimi asks how much I am going to tip her, now dream me mentions I paid $ . 2 already so if she wants more tip then just give me the NOVA finish and I will be on my way. She says the $ . 2 was only for massage, and wants another $ for the handy. Dream me is shocked and asks if she will get naked and can I touch. She says no, $ . 5 for topless and still only NOVA finish! This about kills my vibe, but I only had an extra. 8 on me as my limit for the day was $$. So I now know I will never be going back to see her or anyone from that location, so say fuck it tell her I only have. 8 and want to touch her while she NOVA's me. Dream me says this knowing I will never finish from an HJ without touching at least over the clothes and likely will not even then. Long story longer, she agrees as I imagine she is hurting for clients. Her true colors come through with a very lackluster NOVA job, her face is bored the entire time and keeps asking if I will cum every 2 minutes, like she wants dream me to hurry up. I will say her dream tits did feel decent even through her shirt. So I am lkaying there feeling kind of good with her effort but can start to tell I won't finish from her attempt. I take the matter in my own hands while she sits between my legs and dream me imagines fucking the daylight out of what looks like a reasonable ass. Hahahahaha, dream me finishes, Mimi cleans up dream me quite nicely and offers a shower. Dream me accepts, gets a towel and Mimi grabs my clothing and shows me to the bathroom and shower. I did appreciate her bringing my clothes into the bathroom so I could watch them, but I only had my car key attached to a belt loop and nothing else with me. Shower over, dream me dresses and Mimi walks me out. I can still hear other ladies talking when we walk past the curtained off living room but I do not see anyone else.
Long story real long it was a great massage even for that price, but everything else after that was a waste. I did ask if a larger tip would get more than just her top off but Mimi said nothing else was available. I am sure many of you fine mongering have been to this location already, but for those newbies at least you have some idea of what you are getting yourself into! Haha, stay safe out there mongers and ladies![/QUOTE]Dude, I'm sorry that happened to you. Thanks for TOFTT. I saw her ad and wanted to try, even did some research (as we all do) as to the standard procedures and tips when paying. 2 for a massage. That's crazy that it doesn't come with the standard NOVA. We Def need to stand together and not pay these girls inflated prices. I've read elsewhere in NOVA the. 2 covers the finish as well. Anyway, thanks for the intel. I Def won't be calling her.
[QUOTE=Tdube;4752818]Dude, I'm sorry that happened to you. Thanks for TOFTT. I saw her ad and wanted to try, even did some research (as we all do) as to the standard procedures and tips when paying. 2 for a massage. That's crazy that it doesn't come with the standard NOVA. We Def need to stand together and not pay these girls inflated prices. I've read elsewhere in NOVA the. 2 covers the finish as well. Anyway, thanks for the intel. I Def won't be calling her.[/QUOTE]I don't want to bash anyone's choice but why are is anyone tipping anything when they have already milked 120 out of you for a rub and nothing else. That is why they continue doing that as they just got 140 for about 40 minutes of their time. It is tough to do but get up and walk out and then share so others don't fall for their BS. It is hard to believe that in this time of CV19 that they have enough business to do this. Maybe there is just way too many accepting people with too much money.
HD29.
[QUOTE=Mdubya;4752740]I can't believe guys are paying 100 for a HJ.I've never met a lady who could HJ me better than me LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm still the fastest hands in the west.
If you're going to dish out an extra hundy, you best be getting your dick wet by letting it enter a hole of their choosing, otherwise you're getting ripped off.
[QUOTE=FanofChaos;4752154]Howdy all so I have been a member here for a while and a reader for even longer but thought I would post my first dream so as to contribute. Anyway, I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about meeting with one of the Thai ladies over in Tyson's. I did not know at the time I called that it was one that a few of you folks already knew but was new for me. Anyway I did not save the ad where in my dream I found the number, but contacted the number and inquired about a massage for soon thereafter. The responded was accommodating and I made an appointment to see her for an hour after I texted. The person (I hesitate to say she as I never spoke only texted) did ask for my name and race. Being a black man in this time for mongers seems to be tough as I have read about muggings and other such nonsense, plus I have found an overall bias against black men from non black ladies in this field. I am sure a few bad apples have soured some, but it is what it is, I will never beg a lady to see me if she does not want to see. Back top the main subject, I dreamt I pulled up to 1500 Logan Circle and texted for an apartment number, one was provided and I headed up. Was met at the door by a cute enough 30's Thai woman, I do remember she was older and different than shown in the picture, but was mid 30's and cute enough so I decided to go ahead. Inside was a curtain right behind the front door closing off the living room, but I did see several other curtained off massage areas. My dream self was led to a bedroom with a nice massage setup including a big massage table and all the expected extras, towel warmer, massage gel, all that jazz. The towels on the table looked clean and new for my dream so I was happy. Anyhow dream me provided the agreed upon $ . 2 for the hour massage, whereupon Mimi left and dream me got naked on the massage table. Now let me be clear, dream me has visited massage parlors all over this great land of ours from sea to shining sea and usually receives a mediocre massage and maybe an extra or two, as this was my first visit here and it was in the middle of this pandemic shit, dream me did not know what to expect. Well dream me hoped for at least a standard NOVA finish for the inflated $ . 2/ hr starting price but dream me was prepared to be underwhelmed. Anyhow Mimi was wearing some tight jean shorts and a tight top that showed off some nice cleavage, likely showing a full C when in the bra but I determined the bra was real tight and was pushing the ladies up and giving the illusion of a fuller bust. I realize I am jumping around a bit but that is just how my mind works remembering a dream from a few weeks ago, Mimi said she was from L. A. When asked where she was from (which is not what I meant and she knew it but oh well), but as I have been to Thailand several times I knew exactly where she was from once she started speaking in halting Thai accented English. Back to the main dream, Mimi provided an above average massage! Which was really quite enjoyable. I am a big strong guy and do not really feel light massages and they do nothing for me, so I always ask for hard pressure. Mimi delivered and dream me was very happy with the massage. That part lasted about 40 minutes maybe, not really sure as dream me does not take anything of value with me when going to meet a new masseuse especially when going to an apartment, only the agreed upon fee and some money for a tip if needed. The back massage is overall very pleasing and Mimi says to let her know when or if I want to roll over. Now this triggered my spidey sense as dream me was expecting at least a NOVA finish for $ . 2. Anyway I enjoy a couple more minutes of massage then ask to turn over. Now to the not so fun part of this dream. Dream me flips over and Mimi asks if I want a massage here, while pointing at my groin, now the back massage had very little in the way of teasing so I was not sure before then what was available. Dream me says yes to the front side massage whereupon Mimi asks how much I am going to tip her, now dream me mentions I paid $ . 2 already so if she wants more tip then just give me the NOVA finish and I will be on my way. She says the $ . 2 was only for massage, and wants another $ for the handy. Dream me is shocked and asks if she will get naked and can I touch. She says no, $ . 5 for topless and still only NOVA finish! This about kills my vibe, but I only had an extra. 8 on me as my limit for the day was $$. So I now know I will never be going back to see her or anyone from that location, so say fuck it tell her I only have. 8 and want to touch her while she NOVA's me. Dream me says this knowing I will never finish from an HJ without touching at least over the clothes and likely will not even then. Long story longer, she agrees as I imagine she is hurting for clients. Her true colors come through with a very lackluster NOVA job, her face is bored the entire time and keeps asking if I will cum every 2 minutes, like she wants dream me to hurry up. I will say her dream tits did feel decent even through her shirt. So I am lkaying there feeling kind of good with her effort but can start to tell I won't finish from her attempt. I take the matter in my own hands while she sits between my legs and dream me imagines fucking the daylight out of what looks like a reasonable ass. Hahahahaha, dream me finishes, Mimi cleans up dream me quite nicely and offers a shower. Dream me accepts, gets a towel and Mimi grabs my clothing and shows me to the bathroom and shower. I did appreciate her bringing my clothes into the bathroom so I could watch them, but I only had my car key attached to a belt loop and nothing else with me. Shower over, dream me dresses and Mimi walks me out. I can still hear other ladies talking when we walk past the curtained off living room but I do not see anyone else.
Long story real long it was a great massage even for that price, but everything else after that was a waste. I did ask if a larger tip would get more than just her top off but Mimi said nothing else was available. I am sure many of you fine mongering have been to this location already, but for those newbies at least you have some idea of what you are getting yourself into! Haha, stay safe out there mongers and ladies![/QUOTE]My suggestion is to walk in nice and friendly like and show them ten twenties wrapped around a condom and say this is for the full experience. That has always worked for me. However when I have done that, the massage phase was forgotten about. My feeling is that if I am already in the condom mindset I am forgetting about the massage too.
[QUOTE=GripNSip;4753018]I'm still the fastest hands in the west.
If you're going to dish out an extra hundy, you best be getting your dick wet by letting it enter a hole of their choosing, otherwise you're getting ripped off.[/QUOTE]Is there a link to this underperforming Thai Mimi?
[QUOTE=Asphalt;4753232]Is there a link to this underperforming Thai Mimi?[/QUOTE]Sorry the dream was a couple of weeks ago so not sure which link it was. But in the spirit of sharing I have found a couple of other links using her number:
One from Honolulu last month - [URL]https://callescort.org/808-468-2069[/URL].
And one I just found today! - [URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/new-girl-little-girl-thai-girl-39583969[/URL].
Funny enough they could be the same girl in both pictures but does not really look it to me, and one could very well be the same "Mimi" that I met, but I tend to forget the details of the women right after I leave, especially for a place I will never return too (quotation because I am sure the girls all use fake names. LOL sounds like us!
Also got to love how it's. 6 in Honolulu and $.2 here!
[QUOTE=WalterKovacs;4751567]Was going to point this out but couldn't remember the other name she went by. Bena is Jewell who others have reviewed and this outfit have worked together for some time from what I gathered. I was booked to see her one time but didn't pull the trigger, didn't really get the feeling I'm missing out based on mixed reviews.[/QUOTE]I saw Bena about a year ago and posted a review on Erotic Monkey. Pics are not her, the actual girl looked very similar to pics of Jewel, so they are probably the same person. If I had known I would be seeing Jewel, I would never have made the trip. Actually, in retrospect, I should have walked out upon entering the door, but I wasn't thinking with the right head. Long story short, it was an ok massage with an ok finish. Nothing special. She wanted an extra 60 on top of the 120 for the standard finish. I was able to haggle it down to 40. So overall, I paid 160, which was a waste IMO. During the massage, she complained that I only paid her 40 instead of the 60 she wanted. In my mind, the 120 I paid her for just the massage portion was already too much. She was lucky that I even offered an extra 40.
Overall, a mediocre experience by a mediocre looking provider that wasn't worth the trip. You are definitely NOT missing out.
Long Time lurker first time poster.
I was snuck into a Wood bridge parlor today and let me tell the woman had excellent all around skills. It was a DIY but she teased boy boy. This is a legit parlor so I guess like the rest of them she is feeling the covid stress and not wanting to lose customers.
Hang in there boys the AMPs are getting itchy too".
[QUOTE=Mandane;4751006]Read this - [URL]https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/virginia-lawmakers-considering-expanded-definition-of-prostitution-to-help-prosecution/article_01fa4f5e-9461-5442-a03c-81aea3de3ee4.html[/URL].
In the hands of police (which may vary widely by jurisdiction) this law makes a rub and tug a prostitution bust. For everyone. After July 1st. That's something LE can't do today as only penetrative sex carries that charge. Under the current law it's not even clear if getting a handjob is illegal and no one is busted for just that. After July 1st it will be prostitution for provider and monger. Today they have to catch them doing or offering FS. After July 1st they just have to catch them giving a HE.
This law will give LE the tool they need to put AMP's out of business, and that's what they (with the support of politicians) intend to do.
Time to consider permanently decamping to Greenbelt for your post COVID-19 AMP fun.[/QUOTE]Yea, that's what I'm thinking too. It seems to me that LE will be more easily available to bust MPs. We'll see what comes out of it as time passes. For now, everyone stay safe out there!
Dreamt I saw Jiji, just like other dreams, 200 included everything with CFS and CBJ. There was cooking being done in the kitchen, which caught me by surprise. Pics were brushed up and she was slightly on the bigger side. Nice rack with decent massage. NaNa seemed really cute when she got the door. Will have to take her out on a spin next.
Cityofpalms.
[QUOTE=HarleyDude29;4752847]I don't want to bash anyone's choice but why are is anyone tipping anything when they have already milked 120 out of you for a rub and nothing else. That is why they continue doing that as they just got 140 for about 40 minutes of their time. It is tough to do but get up and walk out and then share so others don't fall for their BS. It is hard to believe that in this time of CV19 that they have enough business to do this. Maybe there is just way too many accepting people with too much money.
HD29.[/QUOTE]100%. They are Def hurting. Let's not support these up charges. . 2 You should Def leave happy.
[QUOTE=Markieboy;4754048]Long Time lurker first time poster.
I was snuck into a Wood bridge parlor today and let me tell the woman had excellent all around skills. It was a DIY but she teased boy boy. This is a legit parlor so I guess like the rest of them she is feeling the covid stress and not wanting to lose customers.
Hang in there boys the AMPs are getting itchy too".[/QUOTE]Where was this at?
[QUOTE=Markieboy;4754048]Long Time lurker first time poster.
I was snuck into a Wood bridge parlor today and let me tell the woman had excellent all around skills. It was a DIY but she teased boy boy. This is a legit parlor so I guess like the rest of them she is feeling the covid stress and not wanting to lose customers.
Hang in there boys the AMPs are getting itchy too".[/QUOTE]You didn't give any details regarding what service she provided if any or the actual location or clues about the location. No description about the provider or name.
[QUOTE=BobORama;4753750]I saw Bena about a year ago and posted a review on Erotic Monkey. Pics are not her, the actual girl looked very similar to pics of Jewel, so they are probably the same person. If I had known I would be seeing Jewel, I would never have made the trip. Actually, in retrospect, I should have walked out upon entering the door, but I wasn't thinking with the right head. Long story short, it was an ok massage with an ok finish. Nothing special. She wanted an extra 60 on top of the 120 for the standard finish. I was able to haggle it down to 40. So overall, I paid 160, which was a waste IMO. During the massage, she complained that I only paid her 40 instead of the 60 she wanted. In my mind, the 120 I paid her for just the massage portion was already too much. She was lucky that I even offered an extra 40.
Overall, a mediocre experience by a mediocre looking provider that wasn't worth the trip. You are definitely NOT missing out.[/QUOTE]How is it that Asian Meg was even able to jack up her prices? I saw Jewel about a year ago over in Annandale. She was my first Thai And I accidentally CIM while she was giving me a BBBJ for an extra. 80. At the time I thought that was a deal, as I had not discovered MD AMPs. Anyways I would not recommend either. But it just goes to show you how much inflation is impacting the hobby, even at the lower end!
Brother (and Sister) Mongers.
If you have an ATF, you might reach out to them and see if a discrete appointment is possible.
A a long-term customer you might find a welcome reply to your question.
I made a visit this week with one a favorite AMP, and another already had an appointment for when I was available (so, I did not see her, but she offered me other times, and told me to call / text again).
If you were nice to the ladies in the past, it is likely they will be happy to see you (and you already know the price / cost, so no unhappy surprise negotiations).
It is not likely these places / ladies will accept cold calls / new clients until businesses officially open.
Always be nice to the ladies (tip appropriately, not stupidly).
PA.
I finally struck gold, not with my ATF as referenced in post #15298, but indeed gold. After getting about 30 no responses I was finally able to connect with a well reviewed provider for an appointment tomorrow. Stay safe out there fellas and may good luck find you!
[QUOTE=CoronaBiden;4717267]Got the itch after fighting the urge for the past month and figured I'd go see my ATF Eva at Manassas Massage Therapy on Surveyor Ct in Manassas. I had told myself I would take a break from the hobby and not go see her until May but with the itch being unbearable I figured I'd go one more time before my full fledged quarantine.
To give context I've been in this hobby for a little over 10 years and have seen many of the massage providers talked about on this board, I've also been light contributor through various handles I've had which have since been closed. Like most I have my preferences and that preference for me has been parlors over independents although I have had good experiences with both. Since being in the hobby my preference has also been to find providers that I can connect with in some way beyond just the finish to lessen the YMMV experiences that we all have had. In regards to service my preference has been the enhanced HJ, although I have occasionally dabbled in CBJ and BBBJ; never traditional GFE or any type of FS. As crazy as it may sound, being in this hobby, I'm a germaphobe and hypochondriac so worrying that I'm going to catch something is always on my mind and scares the living shit out of me.
My preference when it comes to age has evolved over the years. Like most I'm a sucker for a young pretty innocent face. I'm in my early 40's,but around my 3rd or 4th year in the hobby when I was a young chap, my prefence started to trend towards mature providers which is now full fledge as I've found their years of experience to be invaluable. I've actually learned a lot about how to listen to my body and identify the triggers for my aches and pains, while also learning about myself sexually through mature providers with my ATF Eva being the chief educator.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-in-town-erotic-massage-by-zina-text-me-571-455-7444-real-pics/9623440.html[/URL]
Short details.
Location: Annandale near Wakefield.
Rate for my session: 120 hour & +80 for extras.
Massage quality: and N/A.
Services: HJ-BBBJ-CG-Doggy-RCG-Mish-DATY.
Face: 7. 5.
Body- 7. 5.
Attitude: Freaky and horny.
Would I repeat? A thousand times yes.
Long details.
Jiji's got a new friend staying with her for a couple of weeks and she introduced me to her via text. Same apartment complex as always and got up to the door and a cute mid 30's Thai women greets me at the door. Compared to her pics they are her with a little bit of a touch up. Lead me to the shower and asked if I wanted help, I politely declined as I wanted to speed the process up. Got out and headed to her room, she started touching my junior like it's the first one she has seen in a while. She starts taking off her clothes and her breast are nice natural b cups and her ass is small but jiggly. She talks dirty a lot which was really hot and started giving me a BBBJ. Mind you we didn't even do a massage but I didn't care at that point because of how eager she was to please me. We get to the bed and I give her Daty and she tasted good and was in to it. She puts a rubber on me and tells me to fuck her in mish. She felt good and was into again and still talking dirty. Next was doggy and small jiggly ass was good to grab during the ride. Stopped and switched to CG and she rode me so well that I think she hurt my pelvis's from how good she was riding. We both got tried and took a intermission break with BBBJ and stroking me till we caught our breath. RCG came and same story as before, rode me well while I was hanging to her ass. For the grand finale I came on her breast and she started rubbing it all over her breast. She cleans me up and gives me water and tells me " of shit I forgot to give you a massage ". We both laughed and hugged and I was on my way. Zina is a nice gem to see and if I must say, the cutest out of the group and freakiest. I plan on seeing her again this weekend. As always YMMV and my experience may be different from yours. So be safe guys and if you have any questions my inbox is open. Barlon out.
[QUOTE=Barlon;4757382][URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-in-town-erotic-massage-by-zina-text-me-571-455-7444-real-pics/9623440.html[/URL]
Short details.
Location: Annandale near Wakefield.
Rate for my session: 120 hour & +80 for extras.
Massage quality: and N/A.
Services: HJ-BBBJ-CG-Doggy-RCG-Mish-DATY.
Face: 7. 5.
Body- 7. 5.
Attitude: Freaky and horny.
Would I repeat? A thousand times yes.
Long details.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her yet but was quoted $220 for everything.
Tried using the search feature but to no avail.
Does anyone know the full extent of the menu / prices at M&why Wellness in Fairfax? I've been going to comfort spot down the road for the last year and wanted to open up my horizons. Would rather not waste $ on potential fake reviews on Rubmaps to find out. Thanks for the info!
Sylas.
[QUOTE=Hwr02;4747196]Surprised they are trying to up charge during this time. Maybe business is back?
I always have a pretty good time at Lincoln and the girls there are pretty attractive (for my tastes at least). I know this is heresy but the worst experience I've had at Lincoln with tipping issues was with Candy.[/QUOTE]This 100%. She's quite attractive in the face. Massive teddies (I'm not sure if they're natural) that are oh so good to the eyes. But wants a lot of dough just for a standard Nova finish. A pretty eye popping $ for taking off everything but you can't tough between the legs. Her massage is decent. But nah, but it. I hope more people read this and others' reviews and puts her out of business.
Thanks to Windmill2015 had a dream with this Thai dish. He is spot on with his review-very nice time and enjoyable [URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-in-town-erotic-massage-by-zina-text-me-571-455-7444-real-pics/9623440.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=Windmill2015;4758508]I haven't seen her yet but was quoted $220 for everything.[/QUOTE]If you've seen JiJi tell the handler and she'll agree to 200. Otherwise it's 220.
Let's nip this in the bud. If anyone attempts to book with this provider / handler and is quoted 220 tell them it's 200 and you're not giving them a penny more.
[QUOTE=Barlon;4757382][URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-in-town-erotic-massage-by-zina-text-me-571-455-7444-real-pics/9623440.html[/URL]
Short details.
Location: Annandale near Wakefield.
Rate for my session: 120 hour & +80 for extras.
Massage quality: and N/A.
Services: HJ-BBBJ-CG-Doggy-RCG-Mish-DATY.
Face: 7. 5.
Body- 7. 5.
Attitude: Freaky and horny.
Would I repeat? A thousand times yes.
Long details.
Jiji's got a new friend staying with her for a couple of weeks and she introduced me to her via text. Same apartment complex as always and got up to the door and a cute mid 30's Thai women greets me at the door. Compared to her pics they are her with a little bit of a touch up. Lead me to the shower and asked if I wanted help, I politely declined as I wanted to speed the process up. Got out and headed to her room, she started touching my junior like it's the first one she has seen in a while. She starts taking off her clothes and her breast are nice natural b cups and her ass is small but jiggly. She talks dirty a lot which was really hot and started giving me a BBBJ. Mind you we didn't even do a massage but I didn't care at that point because of how eager she was to please me. We get to the bed and I give her Daty and she tasted good and was in to it. She puts a rubber on me and tells me to fuck her in mish. She felt good and was into again and still talking dirty. Next was doggy and small jiggly ass was good to grab during the ride. Stopped and switched to CG and she rode me so well that I think she hurt my pelvis's from how good she was riding. We both got tried and took a intermission break with BBBJ and stroking me till we caught our breath. RCG came and same story as before, rode me well while I was hanging to her ass. For the grand finale I came on her breast and she started rubbing it all over her breast. She cleans me up and gives me water and tells me " of shit I forgot to give you a massage ". We both laughed and hugged and I was on my way. Zina is a nice gem to see and if I must say, the cutest out of the group and freakiest. I plan on seeing her again this weekend. As always YMMV and my experience may be different from yours. So be safe guys and if you have any questions my inbox is open. Barlon out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Windmill2015;4758508]I haven't seen her yet but was quoted $220 for everything.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OneNice5;4759233]Thanks to Windmill2015 had a dream with this Thai dish. He is spot on with his review-very nice time and enjoyable [URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-in-town-erotic-massage-by-zina-text-me-571-455-7444-real-pics/9623440.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]It was Barlon who gave the review. This doesn't tell us much. Please share what the damage and service / menu was as there have been conflicting reports.
[QUOTE=Barlon;4757382][URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-in-town-erotic-massage-by-zina-text-me-571-455-7444-real-pics/9623440.html[/URL]
Mind you we didn't even do a massage but I didn't care at that point because of how eager she was to please me. We get to the bed and I give her Daty and she tasted good and was in to it. She puts a rubber on me and tells me to fuck her in mish.
She cleans me up and gives me water and tells me " of shit I forgot to give you a massage ". We both laughed and hugged and I was on my way.[/QUOTE]She forgot to give you the massage and full hour you paid for? I'm not surprised that she laughed.
If the session goes directly into play, that's fine, but you need to insist afterwards that she gives you the massage you were charged for.
ACS apartments typically do the same session you had for $130 half, $160 hour.
[QUOTE=PilotAviator;4755285]Brother (and Sister) Mongers.
If you have an ATF, you might reach out to them and see if a discrete appointment is possible.
A a long-term customer you might find a welcome reply to your question.
I made a visit this week with one a favorite AMP, and another already had an appointment for when I was available (so, I did not see her, but she offered me other times, and told me to call / text again).
If you were nice to the ladies in the past, it is likely they will be happy to see you (and you already know the price / cost, so no unhappy surprise negotiations).
It is not likely these places / ladies will accept cold calls / new clients until businesses officially open.
Always be nice to the ladies (tip appropriately, not stupidly).
PA.[/QUOTE]It took about a week of trying, but I was able to reach a long-time massage favorite. She isn't advertising and isn't taking new people, but will see clients she knows.
This isn't something where recommendations will help, other than recommending that you reach out to ladies who know you. For the one that answers or says "come over," expect at least 4-5 to not answer or not invite you over. But it's not like you don't have time on your hands to do the legwork.
The one that knows you and agrees to see you also might be amenable to some new horizons, as she hasn't had much business in weeks, and may be as touch-deprived as you are.
[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;4759806]She forgot to give you the massage and full hour you paid for? I'm not surprised that she laughed.
If the session goes directly into play, that's fine, but you need to insist afterwards that she gives you the massage you were charged for.
ACS apartments typically do the same session you had for $130 half, $160 hour.[/QUOTE]Ahh I'd say 45 minutes and I needed to satisfy that urge during this quarantine and she definitely satisfied. I do get what you're saying with massage so I'll stretch that 200 next time. Also I was horny and we all make bad decisions when we think with are Johnston haha it happens.
[QUOTE=Barlon;4759855]Ahh I'd say 45 minutes and I needed to satisfy that urge during this quarantine and she definitely satisfied. I do get what you're saying with massage so I'll stretch that 200 next time. Also I was horny and we all make bad decisions when we think with are Johnston haha it happens.[/QUOTE]Just reminding you that you should always try keep the big head at least partly in the game.