Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=FirmButts;6474025]I currently came across a bartender who is on a site similar to only fans. She is cute,20's and a really nice backside. How do I go about asking her does she do meet ups. She opening told me she was on a hosting site through casual conversation. Any advice would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Admin this will sound argumentative but I'm offering advice once I get done.

First off- Don't listen to that cockblocking Troubleplay. The dude literally asked for advice and you wedged right in?

Advice.

* is a parasite working it's way thru our system for women to get our money with no work. Let them go work at Hooters, Twinpeaks, or some striptrip club and actually work for our money.

She's clearly out there. And open to nudity / sexuality. The key is if she's into you and you to keep your money, and possibly get some or move along is. Visit her again to ask and inquire.

**How about I pay you and I take the pics / vids?

Her answer will give your everything you end to know. If she says "well what do you want to do" (you may have a chance depending on what you answer, inquire more at no charge) and if "No" (fuck her, she's a grifter). Let her get her $40 a month selling useless content instead of $100-300 an hour.

Hey friend,

How was I "cockblocking" when I literally gave him 6 answers or follow up questions for the hot bartender in response to his request for advice?

Telling him I would go talk to her myself was "half joking. ".

Sheesh!

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;6482852]Admin this will sound argumentative but I'm offering advice once I get done.

First off- Don't listen to that cockblocking Troubleplay. The dude literally asked for advice and you wedged right in?

Advice.

* is a parasite working it's way thru our system for women to get our money with no work. Let them go work at Hooters, Twinpeaks, or some striptrip club and actually work for our money.

She's clearly out there. And open to nudity / sexuality. The key is if she's into you and you to keep your money, and possibly get some or move along is. Visit her again to ask and inquire.

**How about I pay you and I take the pics / vids?

Her answer will give your everything you end to know. If she says "well what do you want to do" (you may have a chance depending on what you answer, inquire more at no charge) and if "No" (fuck her, she's a grifter). Let her get her $40 a month selling useless content instead of $100-300 an hour.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TroublePlay;6479191]How do you ask her? She already gave you an opening when she told you about the "hosting site. " There's a million different ways to turn that conversation to your question. How do I find you online? What is your handle? You are quite beautiful, I would love to see your pics. Is it a dating site? Have your ever had a sugar daddy? Do you do meet-ups with your fans?

Finally, the best way. Pm me her name and bar. I'll go talk to her.[/QUOTE]All of the things you said will get him denied and read #3.

1. Stop supporting "OF" and these chicks usage of it. Especially in the case of a Local attainable chick. If it's some hot ass chick half way around the world, go for it. But he'd still be stupid because you can just use a major search engine of your choice, and get it for free. As I've done many times.

2. Don't even inquire acquire about it, or what her handle is, and or use "Fan / Fans" because she's told you about it. You're hunting, not prey.

3. The kicker and read it again "The Best way, PM me her name and where she works and I'll go talk to her. ".

Total cockblocker move. So. You're going to go meet this girl, and get him hooked up? Altruism is great in theory.

As I told you, #3 was a joke. Do you not have a sense of humor?

I understand the general dislike of OF. But you can't order me or anyone else to not use it.

Who put you in charge? Not I.

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;6483371]All of the things you said will get him denied and read #3.

1. Stop supporting "OF" and these chicks usage of it. Especially in the case of a Local attainable chick. If it's some hot ass chick half way around the world, go for it. But he'd still be stupid because you can just use a major search engine of your choice, and get it for free. As I've done many times.

2. Don't even inquire acquire about it, or what her handle is, and or use "Fan / Fans" because she's told you about it. You're hunting, not prey.

3. The kicker and read it again "The Best way, PM me her name and where she works and I'll go talk to her. ".

Total cockblocker move. So. You're going to go meet this girl, and get him hooked up? Altruism is great in theory.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TroublePlay;6483675]As I told you, #3 was a joke. Do you not have a sense of humor?

I understand the general dislike of OF. But you can't order me or anyone else to not use it.

Who put you in charge? Not I.[/QUOTE]You want a joke?

Q. What's the difference between a ***** and a ****?

A. A **** will fuck anybody, a ***** will fuck anybody but you.

* is making an earth full of b.

Fine to post availabilities there. Getting the monger responses is what PMs are for. Otherwise, we all get to feel the pain of your overloaded mailbox, and it's a royal pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6499550]Fine to post availabilities there. Getting the monger responses is what PMs are for. Otherwise, we all get to feel the pain of your overloaded mailbox, and it's a royal pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more! It will only get worse as the mongers that only get on periodically will continue the thread.

Golfguy, playing through.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6499550]Fine to post availabilities there. Getting the monger responses is what PMs are for. Otherwise, we all get to feel the pain of your overloaded mailbox, and it's a royal pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]Especially if you're only going to give the number to 10 people. Vet your ten people via PM and keep it off the boards.

Pimping out UTRs on a review forum is the same as a hooker posting a ad on the same forum. How UTR is she now? Stop posting " I am interested " in the review forum and PM the Pimp and stop occupying forum space with endless BS. Add every one of them to your ignore list and it all goes away. Done QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6499550 Fine to post availabilities there. Getting the monger responses is what PMs are for. Otherwise, we all get to feel the pain of your overloaded mailbox, and it's a royal pain in the ass.

Rant.

I am so sick and tired of all the ads that say I don't play game so don't you either. Then when you check them out they are running ads in 20 other cities, or don't waist my time and I will not waist yours. I don't really have a problem if they don't respond. I know many of them may get several hundred texts during the day and their schedule maybe filled. What really pisses me off is when they text back and I respond with in 1 minute and they don't get back to me again for hours, to me that is inexcusable. I am at the point were I text them and tell them you don't want it done to you than what are you doing it to others. It may duin any chance if seeing them but I don't care. The only one that ever apologized was an escort in dayton Ruggiez. She made it right but saw her about two months ago had a great time and for some reason you will not longer respond to me. Had a real scam artist last week thought she could pull a fast one. We texted back and forth she was very accommodating I made it very plain that I never give deposits / or prepay and only give donations after done playing she asked for a picture and I sent one of my late brother. She sent address get there and asks for picture proving I was there than asked for onem showing the front of hotel. Then she starts saying she need me to send up some good faith money. There was a guy walking around in a black tee shirt saying security I figure he is not really security he the messenger. I told her know then she sends pictures trying to entice me. I text back what part of me sayin no deposit no prepay did you not understand. Sent another picture trying to get the money and saying I promise I will give you room number. I told her to go screw herself and left. But not in those words. I did leave a report in the escort section. I am getting up in years and don't function as well as I once did. With all the scam artists and woman with GPS I may just stay with a couple of providers that have been around for years, and stop looking for greener grass or just retire from the sport.

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6512784]Rant.

I am so sick and tired of all the ads that say I don't play game so don't you either. Then when you check them out they are running ads in 20 other cities, or don't waist my time and I will not waist yours. I don't really have a problem if they don't respond. I know many of them may get several hundred texts during the day and their schedule maybe filled. What really pisses me off is when they text back and I respond with in 1 minute and they don't get back to me again for hours, to me that is inexcusable. I am at the point were I text them and tell them you don't want it done to you than what are you doing it to others. It may duin any chance if seeing them but I don't care. The only one that ever apologized was an escort in dayton Ruggiez. She made it right but saw her about two months ago had a great time and for some reason you will not longer respond to me. Had a real scam artist last week thought she could pull a fast one. We texted back and forth she was very accommodating I made it very plain that I never give deposits / or prepay and only give donations after done playing she asked for a picture and I sent one of my late brother. She sent address get there and asks for picture proving I was there than asked for onem showing the front of hotel. Then she starts saying she need me to send up some good faith money. There was a guy walking around in a black tee shirt saying security I figure he is not really security he the messenger. I told her know then she sends pictures trying to entice me. I text back what part of me sayin no deposit no prepay did you not understand. Sent another picture trying to get the money and saying I promise I will give you room number. I told her to go screw herself and left. But not in those words. I did leave a report in the escort section. I am getting up in years and don't function as well as I once did. With all the scam artists and woman with GPS I may just stay with a couple of providers that have been around for years, and stop looking for greener grass or just retire from the sport.[/QUOTE]I have seen more and more of this going on. Not only what you have mentioned but they are asking for more money than they are worth. I am a nice guy and stick with ladies that provide good service for a reasonable price. I also treat the girl well.

I have been seeing ladies that I know and massage parlors. What I like about massage parlors is I do not have to make an appointment. I get a nice massage. Yes I only get a HJ usually but I enjoy my relaxing time with no games. If you live in Cincinnati you can drive to Lexington for good massage parlors.

Sofia is available in Dayton until Monday and she is very good. I have seen her many times.

For all of you so called mongers that seem to think that you're "too good" to deal with the streets. You are apparently either ignorant or have your head in the sand. All mongers play in the same pool of pussy and like a swimming pool what happens in one end (shallow or deep) affects the whole pool not just one tiny area. You may think that since you stay in the safe shallow end (hotel escorts or AMPs) that you're good But you simply have to understand that there are HUNDREDS of guys that do the streets, AMP's and the hotel escorts (even high end) and you're sadly mistaken if you think you're better than anyone that does admit to street actions. Others do it and just don't post about it. Some guys will do anything on two legs and some on four. They'll even bareback them all too. Most mongers hate the providers that say covered Everything but if you think that the risk is lesser since it's not the street you're so wrong it's not even funny. Too many ladies will either say a) you're married, you're clean and offer bare back. B) if the guy takes too long covered will switch to bareback to finish faster or c) charge extra for bareback and all of the ladies that do even one bareback has done many that way (no you're not special). So wake up, face reality that the WHOLE POOL OF PUSSY is all connected.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;6498580]Thanks for the reminder why I go nowhere near street walkers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6513075]I have been seeing ladies that I know and massage parlors. What I like about massage parlors is I do not have to make an appointment. I get a nice massage. Yes I only get a HJ usually but I enjoy my relaxing time with no games. If you live in Cincinnati you can drive to Lexington for good massage parlors.[/QUOTE]Rufus I believe you misspelled Louisville. Louisville is way better for AMPs than Lexington, read the forums there specifically for Stone spa amd Sun Spa.

Golfguy, playing through.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6515074]For all of you so called mongers that seem to think that you're "too good" to deal with the streets. You are apparently either ignorant or have your head in the sand. All mongers play in the same pool of pussy and like a swimming pool what happens in one end (shallow or deep) affects the whole pool not just one tiny area. You may think that since you stay in the safe shallow end (hotel escorts or AMPs) that you're good But you simply have to understand that there are HUNDREDS of guys that do the streets, AMP's and the hotel escorts (even high end) and you're sadly mistaken if you think you're better than anyone that does admit to street actions. Others do it and just don't post about it. Some guys will do anything on two legs and some on four. They'll even bareback them all too. Most mongers hate the providers that say covered Everything but if you think that the risk is lesser since it's not the street you're so wrong it's not even funny. Too many ladies will either say a) you're married, you're clean and offer bare back. B) if the guy takes too long covered will switch to bareback to finish faster or c) charge extra for bareback and all of the ladies that do even one bareback has done many that way (no you're not special). So wake up, face reality that the WHOLE POOL OF PUSSY is all connected.[/QUOTE]Thanks for re-enforcing why I go nowhere near street hookers.

Just stick your head back in the sand and pretend you're safe but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together will realize that unless you find a unicorn of a true utr extremely low level provider that plays safe you're at the mercy of all the other mongers and their actions as well. So those AMP guys that do daty and go bareback are also doing others and it'll always be that way. With the street action like 80% or more is just BJ action anyways. Just keep telling yourself that you're fine LOL.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;6515875]Thanks for re-enforcing why I go nowhere near street hookers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6516753]Just stick your head back in the sand and pretend you're safe but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together will realize that unless you find a unicorn of a true utr extremely low level provider that plays safe you're at the mercy of all the other mongers and their actions as well. So those AMP guys that do daty and go bareback are also doing others and it'll always be that way. With the street action like 80% or more is just BJ action anyways. Just keep telling yourself that you're fine LOL.[/QUOTE]He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.

Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.

First of all these are women new to the business or should be. They get interested and ask for help. WDG do you know what a pimp is?? I doubt it. I receive nothing from helping them. Most of us complain about no new talent and when you find one and post it some asshole makes a new thread and tells us to use it. If there's a issue with it Admin would step in. WDG my advice to you is to keep hunting you Listcrawler girls and be happy with that.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6519545]Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.[/QUOTE]Much needed. Good idea.

Hornyashell and I have been at each other off and on for years. I read his report and totally agree with it. He truly stated the facts the way it is. Thank you for your input and truth. Your views are almost exactly like mine. You will never hear negative comments from me about you again. And I still use my Camaro LOL.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6519545]Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.[/QUOTE]Good idea. Thanks for stepping up.

BAM.

That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more. That increases everyone's risk level. The AMP guys that go to Sakura etc are dabbling with a lady that has more customers in one day than an SW does all week and at a higher risk too. Even the ladies that have a reputation of covered everything break those rules for their regulars or someone that pays them enough.

So all of you self centered idiots that think you're better need to realize that you ain't. Wake the fuck up.

[QUOTE=Vilnius;6517312]He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.[/QUOTE]

Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Space80;6522195]Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6520186]That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more.[/QUOTE]Funny guy.

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6522523]Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.[/QUOTE]This is very good information. I will add that when I first contact a lady I will ask what area of town they are in and I tell them it is important to plan a visit. That gives the chance for me to see if it is a scam too. If they do not provide an area then I leave it be.

Once we make a plan for a visit I ask for instructions as soon as possible. Many will not provide until 30 minutes prior.

On their public wifi you can access sex websites but gambling and lottery ticket websites are blocked. Against company policy FYI.

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

[QUOTE=DistantFirtst;6532319]Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?[/QUOTE]That scam has been reported here quite a few times.

[QUOTE=DistantFirtst;6532319]Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wondering if anyone else has had anything like this happen?[/QUOTE]As others have said it's a scam one person that reported he got one. Then when to his gun cases opened them up to show a big verity of weapons took pictures and sent text back saying bring it on. One time I ran into a scam they called. And I talked to them and they went on and on what they were going to do I had someone in the house say something that they would over hear, and had them say just another 15 seconds we should have this call traced they hung up and never called back. But talking about scams like this there was one reported on the news this week where a mother got a call and she could hear her daughter screaming in the background as the kidnapers where demanding they come up with ransom. She knows her daughters voice and new it was her, Fortunately her husband was home and does work in security called and facetimed his daughter she answered and he could see all was okay what happened the bad guys got a copy of her voice maybe from ease dropping on a conversation she was having and used AI to copy her voice. So it was a copy Ai used to generate what they wanted the voice to say. People in security are now advising families to come up with code words that they will not forget in a time of stress to help you decide if it's real or fake.

[QUOTE=DistantFirtst;6532319]Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?[/QUOTE]Yes had the same text with pictures of mutilated bodies said they were going to kill my family. I ask if they would start with my ex-wife I would send address nothing back.

[QUOTE=SnarkDog54;6532336]That scam has been reported here quite a few times.[/QUOTE]I got a letter in the mail from the county requiring me to pay over $3500 for property tax.

Useless Tart Report.

I wish that every monger that caves into an escorts request for pre or partial payment would suffer cash and grab, I have talked via text with at least six escorts this week that want some money up front, that have gotten kind of nasty in there response. Maybe they are all in the cash and grab category, Almost all of them say well I have been robbed or cheated why are you lumping me in a group of bad apples when you have never met me. My response is well is that not what you are doing to me? And some even get nasty after that. After I send the initial text to see if they will reply to me. If they do reply I explain what I would like to do and than add to be up front I have this policy I never ever do a prepay or deposit and I only hand over donation after we are done playing and give them a reason why. I also say if you are unwilling to do this I can understand your right to feel that way. So no harm no foul we will just have to go our own ways and I wish you well and stay safe. And boy with some of the replies I have gotten you would think I had jumped into a shark pool. I reply and say I would rather pass on a pretty woman than take a chance on getting taken. The only reason they are doing this is because enough people are handing over the money. This is just like an average escort developing GPS and asking 130 for quick visit 190 a hhr and 250 for hr. They are only doing this because we keep letting the little head take control and are paying it. There are many nice ones out there one or two maybe a little rough around the edges but I have never had a real problems with with these. Stephany in Morrow, Alana or Alans she has it both ways in her ad. She does have one bad habit if you say I would like to see you tonight at 12 in the afternoon and she says great and six or seven o'clock comes around and I have texted and go no reply. It seem once she stops working for whatever reason she no longer reply's but has gotten back to me with sorry. Crystal has been super nice and fun. Faith when I have connected her she has never let me down. Even one or two that I can't recommend did not have an issue waiting until after playing. One was Ryot seems like nice girl but her falling asleep and me having to almost violently shaking her and calling her name to get her to wake up I will not see or give a recommendation only to say I wish there were a couple more escorts that would shave there head, And Ruggies when she is not playing games she is one of the best but over the past few months I have gotten tired of her games For right now I am done with her and blocked her number. But I will tell you this is she plays games or ghosts you write a nasty report on her. And 95% or the time you will hear back from her. She hates seeing a bad review with her name on it. And pretty much in the last year I have PM many who complained I said to the you will probably hear back from he trying to make amends, and they said they did. As alway with every escort YMMV. And if anyone has questions please fee free to PM me.

Perhaps, maybe just for a minute or two, consider the likelihood that many of the "escorts" you are communicating with are actually Nigerian / Russian / American scammers and not really girls in the Cincy area.

Excluding the girls you note below, I don't think there are 6 more legit girls advertising.

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6534867]I wish that every monger that caves into an escorts request for pre or partial payment would suffer cash and grab, I have talked via text with at least six escorts this week that want some money up front, that have gotten kind of nasty in there response. Maybe they are all in the cash and grab category, Almost all of them say well I have been robbed or cheated why are you lumping me in a group of bad apples when you have never met me. My response is well is that not what you are doing to me? And some even get nasty after that. After I send the initial text to see if they will reply to me. If they do reply I explain what I would like to do and than add to be up front I have this policy I never ever do a prepay or deposit and I only hand over donation after we are done playing and give them a reason why. I also say if you are unwilling to do this I can understand your right to feel that way. There are many nice ones out there one or two maybe a little rough around the edges but I have never had a real problems with with these. Stephany in Morrow, Alana or Alans she has it both ways in her ad. She does have one bad habit if you say I would like to see you tonight at 12 in the afternoon and she says great and six or seven o'clock comes around and I have texted and go no reply. It seem once she stops working for whatever reason she no longer reply's but has gotten back to me with sorry. Crystal has been super nice and fun. Faith when I have connected her she has never let me down. Even one or two that I can't recommend did not have an issue waiting until after playing. One was Ryot seems like nice girl but her falling asleep and me having to almost violently shaking her and calling her name to get her to wake up I will not see or give a recommendation only to say I wish there were a couple more escorts that would shave there head, And Ruggies when she is not playing games she is one of the best but over the past few months I have gotten tired of her games For right now I am done with her and blocked her number. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6534867]I wish that every monger that caves into an escorts request for pre or partial payment would suffer cash and grab, I have talked via text with at least six escorts this week that want some money up front, that have gotten kind of nasty in there response. Maybe they are all in the cash and grab category, Almost all of them say well I have been robbed or cheated why are you lumping me in a group of bad apples when you have never met me. My response is well is that not what you are doing to me? And some even get nasty after that. After I send the initial text to see if they will reply to me. If they do reply I explain what I would like to do and than add to be up front I have this policy I never ever do a prepay or deposit and I only hand over donation after we are done playing and give them a reason why. I also say if you are unwilling to do this I can understand your right to feel that way. So no harm no foul we will just have to go our own ways and I wish you well and stay safe. And boy with some of the replies I have gotten you would think I had jumped into a shark pool. I reply and say I would rather pass on a pretty woman than take a chance on getting taken. The only reason they are doing this is because enough people are handing over the money. This is just like an average escort developing GPS and asking 130 for quick visit 190 a hhr and 250 for hr. They are only doing this because we keep letting the little head take control and are paying it. There are many nice ones out there one or two maybe a little rough around the edges but I have never had a real problems with with these. Stephany in Morrow, Alana or Alans she has it both ways in her ad. She does have one bad habit if you say I would like to see you tonight at 12 in the afternoon and she says great and six or seven o'clock comes around and I have texted and go no reply. It seem once she stops working for whatever reason she no longer reply's but has gotten back to me with sorry. Crystal has been super nice and fun. Faith when I have connected her she has never let me down. Even one or two that I can't recommend did not have an issue waiting until after playing. One was Ryot seems like nice girl but her falling asleep and me having to almost violently shaking her and calling her name to get her to wake up I will not see or give a recommendation only to say I wish there were a couple more escorts that would shave there head, And Ruggies when she is not playing games she is one of the best but over the past few months I have gotten tired of her games For right now I am done with her and blocked her number. But I will tell you this is she plays games or ghosts you write a nasty report on her. And 95% or the time you will hear back from her. She hates seeing a bad review with her name on it. And pretty much in the last year I have PM many who complained I said to the you will probably hear back from he trying to make amends, and they said they did. As alway with every escort YMMV. And if anyone has questions please fee free to PM me.[/QUOTE]I never pay anything up front. I never talk money and services until we have started. I do not send pictures. If a lady does not like that and they get nasty I am thankful because I do not want to see someone like that. I treat the ladies very well and I expect to be treated nice.

Guys need to remember they have the upper hand and use it.

[QUOTE=DistantFirtst;6532319]Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?[/QUOTE]I've gotten that one a few times, the first time I just ignored it and got a new number to use. Lately I have been telling then to come try it I could use the stress relief.

I usually tell them that what they are doing is a federal crime and I gave a copy of their texts and calls to my nephew who is a FBI agent in the FBI White Collar and Electronic / Cyber Crime Division and they should expect a visit shortly because the FBI have their IP address and cell carrier.

Since they are probably off-shore, they won't care, but maybe it will make them move on.

Then block them everywhere.

[QUOTE=CinCityFun;6536614]I've gotten that one a few times, the first time I just ignored it and got a new number to use. Lately I have been telling then to come try it I could use the stress relief.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;6536859]I usually tell them that what they are doing is a federal crime and I gave a copy of their texts and calls to my nephew who is a FBI agent in the FBI White Collar and Electronic / Cyber Crime Division and they should expect a visit shortly because the FBI have their IP address and cell carrier.

Since they are probably off-shore, they won't care, but maybe it will make them move on.

Then block them everywhere.[/QUOTE]That happened to me once I was with some friends when I got the call and while I had them on the line I whispered to a friend to say softy but loud enough for them to hear this, just another 15 to 30 seconds and we will have this call traced and located. The line went instantly dead and never heard from them again. But I remember a report that someone made here. He got one of those threating messages and he went and opened up his gun cases and took a picture and said bring it on. And he never hear from them again.

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