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Lily's White Knight
No I don't get a discount. LOL.
Lily has reduced her rates a little and eliminated the high end menu items.
Her full view (naked with roaming allowed) is 150 which is only slightly more than an average AMP.
Unless you are a great negotiator most will pay 120 to 140 for a middle aged average looking lady to get her shirt up and maybe pants down.
They rarely get fully naked because they are in a hurry to get you out or to run and answer the door or phone.
IMO the little extra is well worth the reliability, convenience, quality and safety of Lily's service.
Personally, I prefer the B2 B which is a few dollars more, but something generally not available at an AMP. Besides I don't want some middle aged lady crawling all over me. LOL .
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[QUOTE=Bnrwr;5421821]So who's getting her lost business? A massage provider with a bigger menu?[/QUOTE]Those who feel "priced out" of her services will seek out providers elsewhere. And (good, bad or indifferent) life will go on.
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I agree with the below. Well said.
[QUOTE=CrazyOld;5422578]No I don't get a discount. LOL.
Lily has reduced her rates a little and eliminated the high end menu items.
Her full view (naked with roaming allowed) is 150 which is only slightly more than an average AMP.
Unless you are a great negotiator most will pay 120 to 140 for a middle aged average looking lady to get her shirt up and maybe pants down.
They rarely get fully naked because they are in a hurry to get you out or to run and answer the door or phone.
IMO the little extra is well worth the reliability, convenience, quality and safety of Lily's service.
Personally, I prefer the B2 B which is a few dollars more, but something generally not available at an AMP. Besides I don't want some middle aged lady crawling all over me. LOL .[/QUOTE]
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Enough already
[QUOTE=JarelRod;5423823]I agree with the below. Well said.[/QUOTE]There have been comments made here and on the other site that are dead wrong and it's finally gotten under my skin a bit. I'm actually (for real) friends with both Lilly and Star outside of the hobby and NO I don't get a discount, NO I don't get free visits, and for he love of GOD. NO, I'm not like Bugleboy (shoot me if that ever happens).
All I do is post about Lilly's upcoming visits because the USA Classified section is gone, Backpage is gone, Craigslist is not what it was. There really isn't a safe, semi-UTR way to keep her clients (new and old) informed about when she's coming unless they are keen enough to visit her booking link.
The whole reason Lilly changed her pricing and offerings was because I had the balls as a friend and customer to let her know about the comments about the pricing and she has adjusted them as much as she feels she can afford to. It wasn't an easy conversation, but I felt she needed to know after having a couple of slow visits to Albany. She thanked me but I know it hurt to hear that especially from me.
With Star. It's more of the same, except she is truly UTR and wants nothing more than to meet true gentlemen. I offered a long time ago to look at profiles and help her find some nice gentlemen that would treat her well, respect her privacy and enjoy her services. Not everyone (including seniors) will get passed on. If I've provided you with her contact info please use it. Also know that she checks with me on every new inquiry, so if you didn't get t from me...
Just to be clear. Do they both appreciate what I do for them? You betcha! But they are both genuinely very nice ladies and I'm more than happy to help out. I do appreciate the positive PM's that I've received and those that think otherwise. Please save yourself the trouble and don't PM me. That delete button is too easy to use.
Stay safe,
Stress.
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[QUOTE=StressRelief;5423896]There have been comments made here and on the other site that are dead wrong and it's finally gotten under my skin a bit. I'm actually (for real) friends with both Lilly and Star outside of the hobby and NO I don't get a discount, NO I don't get free visits, and for he love of GOD. NO, I'm not like Bugleboy (shoot me if that ever happens).
All I do is post about Lilly's upcoming visits because the USA Classified section is gone, Backpage is gone, Craigslist is not what it was. There really isn't a safe, semi-UTR way to keep her clients (new and old) informed about when she's coming unless they are keen enough to visit her booking link.
With Star. It's more of the same, except she is truly UTR and wants nothing more than to meet true gentlemen. I offered a long time ago to look at profiles and help her find some nice gentlemen that would treat her well, respect her privacy and enjoy her services. Not everyone (including seniors) will get passed on. If I've provided you with her contact info please use it. Also know that she checks with me on every new inquiry, so if you didn't get t from me.
Just to be clear. Do they both appreciate what I do for them? You betcha! But they are both genuinely very nice ladies and I'm more than happy to help out. I do appreciate the positive PM's that I've received and those that think otherwise. Please save yourself the trouble and don't PM me. That delete button is too easy to use.
Stay safe,
Stress.[/QUOTE]Thank you Stress!
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Lilly
[QUOTE=StressRelief;5423896]There have been comments made here and on the other site that are dead wrong and it's finally gotten under my skin a bit. I'm actually (for real) friends with both Lilly and Star outside of the hobby and NO I don't get a discount, NO I don't get free visits, and for he love of GOD. NO, I'm not like Bugleboy (shoot me if that ever happens).
All I do is post about Lilly's upcoming visits because the USA Classified section is gone, Backpage is gone, Craigslist is not what it was. There really isn't a safe, semi-UTR way to keep her clients (new and old) informed about when she's coming unless they are keen enough to visit her booking link.
The whole reason Lilly changed her pricing and offerings was because I had the balls as a friend and customer to let her know about the comments about the pricing and she has adjusted them as much as she feels she can afford to. It wasn't an easy conversation, but I felt she needed to know after having a couple of slow visits to Albany. She thanked me but I know it hurt to hear that especially from me.
With Star. It's more of the same, except she is truly UTR and wants nothing more than to meet true gentlemen. I offered a long time ago to look at profiles and help her find some nice gentlemen that would treat her well, respect her privacy and enjoy her services. Not everyone (including seniors) will get passed on. If I've provided you with her contact info please use it. Also know that she checks with me on every new inquiry, so if you didn't get t from me...
Just to be clear. Do they both appreciate what I do for them? You betcha! But they are both genuinely very nice ladies and I'm more than happy to help out. I do appreciate the positive PM's that I've received and those that think otherwise. Please save yourself the trouble and don't PM me. That delete button is too easy to use.
Stay safe,
Stress.[/QUOTE]So my schedule might actually work to see Lilly when she is in town this trip. The definition of the services is not clear so I just planed to get the "deep tissue" for an hour maybe 90 minutes. Can anyone shoot me a PM on if that is the correct level of massage I should book? I believe there was hydro therapy and Swedish as well. I'd love to try Star since she seems to be local so my schedule has a better chance of lining up. But I don't make the cut. Oh well maybe some day.
Thanks, Jeff.
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No Star for me
[QUOTE=StressRelief;5423896]There have been comments made here and on the other site that are dead wrong and it's finally gotten under my skin a bit. I'm actually (for real) friends with both Lilly and Star outside of the hobby and NO I don't get a discount, NO I don't get free visits, and for he love of GOD. NO, I'm not like Bugleboy (shoot me if that ever happens).
All I do is post about Lilly's upcoming visits because the USA Classified section is gone, Backpage is gone, Craigslist is not what it was. There really isn't a safe, semi-UTR way to keep her clients (new and old) informed about when she's coming unless they are keen enough to visit her booking link.
The whole reason Lilly changed her pricing and offerings was because I had the balls as a friend and customer to let her know about the comments about the pricing and she has adjusted them as much as she feels she can afford to. It wasn't an easy conversation, but I felt she needed to know after having a couple of slow visits to Albany. She thanked me but I know it hurt to hear that especially from me.
With Star. It's more of the same, except she is truly UTR and wants nothing more than to meet true gentlemen. I offered a long time ago to look at profiles and help her find some nice gentlemen that would treat her well, respect her privacy and enjoy her services. Not everyone (including seniors) will get passed on. If I've provided you with her contact info please use it. Also know that she checks with me on every new inquiry, so if you didn't get t from me...
Just to be clear. Do they both appreciate what I do for them? You betcha! But they are both genuinely very nice ladies and I'm more than happy to help out. I do appreciate the positive PM's that I've received and those that think otherwise. Please save yourself the trouble and don't PM me. That delete button is too easy to use.
Stay safe,
Stress.[/QUOTE]I try but Star is a tough one to get thru to.
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Hi Stress, you seem like a good citizen here and in the real world. That's rare and admirable. I wanted to share my perspective with you on this topic. I wasn't thinking of doing that but your comment about getting under your skin made my synapse fire. Every time I see you and crazy old post your advertisements for Lilly it got under my skin. And I think I figured out why. See, for my own reasons I decided long ago that I have no interest in ever seeing Lilly or Star. So that makes your advertisements for them just spam to me. Useless. Then add the fact I have to read your advertisements every time she travels this way, or your post about the same trip reminding people she is just here for a few more days. The continued postings makes them annoying in addition to useless. And when I get annoyed, I start thinking about the fact that this is a discussion forum and not an advertisements web site. Maybe there is a reason the vast majority of advertisements are on advertisement web sites? Now for the utr aspect, obviously STG is unrealistic. But tryst, or Eros or more select sites? And the advertisement can be designed to hide identities and maintain privacy and let the ladies be selective. Maybe she needs to work a little harder at advertising instead of us having to read them here? I mean, how many of us come here looking for advertisements? And maybe the classifieds section on this site failed because people don't come to this site for them. Now having shared my perspective, feel free to tell me to fuck off or stop whining or hit the delete key or don't read them. All are valid reactions, and as a good citizen you have earned the right to use any or all of them. I would submit that not calling you BugleBoy should count in my favor. LOL.
[QUOTE=StressRelief;5423896]There have been comments made here and on the other site that are dead wrong and it's finally gotten under my skin a bit. I'm actually (for real) friends with both Lilly and Star outside of the hobby and NO I don't get a discount, NO I don't get free visits, and for he love of GOD. NO, I'm not like Bugleboy (shoot me if that ever happens).
All I do is post about Lilly's upcoming visits because the USA Classified section is gone, Backpage is gone, Craigslist is not what it was. There really isn't a safe, semi-UTR way to keep her clients (new and old) informed about when she's coming unless they are keen enough to visit her booking link.
The whole reason Lilly changed her pricing and offerings was because I had the balls as a friend and customer to let her know about the comments about the pricing and she has adjusted them as much as she feels she can afford to. It wasn't an easy conversation, but I felt she needed to know after having a couple of slow visits to Albany. She thanked me but I know it hurt to hear that especially from me.
With Star. It's more of the same, except she is truly UTR and wants nothing more than to meet true gentlemen. I offered a long time ago to look at profiles and help her find some nice gentlemen that would treat her well, respect her privacy and enjoy her services. Not everyone (including seniors) will get passed on. If I've provided you with her contact info please use it. Also know that she checks with me on every new inquiry, so if you didn't get t from me...
Just to be clear. Do they both appreciate what I do for them? You betcha! But they are both genuinely very nice ladies and I'm more than happy to help out. I do appreciate the positive PM's that I've received and those that think otherwise. Please save yourself the trouble and don't PM me. That delete button is too easy to use.
Stay safe,
Stress.[/QUOTE]
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Well.
[QUOTE=RonJeremy69;5425319]Hi Stress, you seem like a good citizen here and in the real world. That's rare and admirable. I wanted to share my perspective with you on this topic. I wasn't thinking of doing that but your comment about getting under your skin made my synapse fire. Every time I see you and crazy old post your advertisements for Lilly it got under my skin. And I think I figured out why. See, for my own reasons I decided long ago that I have no interest in ever seeing Lilly or Star. So that makes your advertisements for them just spam to me. Useless. Then add the fact I have to read your advertisements every time she travels this way, or your post about the same trip reminding people she is just here for a few more days. The continued postings makes them annoying in addition to useless. And when I get annoyed, I start thinking about the fact that this is a discussion forum and not an advertisements web site. Maybe there is a reason the vast majority of advertisements are on advertisement web sites? Now for the utr aspect, obviously STG is unrealistic. But tryst, or Eros or more select sites? And the advertisement can be designed to hide identities and maintain privacy and let the ladies be selective. Maybe she needs to work a little harder at advertising instead of us having to read them here? I mean, how many of us come here looking for advertisements? And maybe the classifieds section on this site failed because people don't come to this site for them. Now having shared my perspective, feel free to tell me to fuck off or stop whining or hit the delete key or don't read them. All are valid reactions, and as a good citizen you have earned the right to use any or all of them. I would submit that not calling you BugleBoy should count in my favor. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well said. I thought it was just me.
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All valid points
[QUOTE=RonJeremy69;5425319]Hi Stress, you seem like a good citizen here and in the real world. That's rare and admirable. I wanted to share my perspective with you on this topic. I wasn't thinking of doing that but your comment about getting under your skin made my synapse fire. Every time I see you and crazy old post your advertisements for Lilly it got under my skin. And I think I figured out why. See, for my own reasons I decided long ago that I have no interest in ever seeing Lilly or Star. So that makes your advertisements for them just spam to me. Useless. Then add the fact I have to read your advertisements every time she travels this way, or your post about the same trip reminding people she is just here for a few more days. The continued postings makes them annoying in addition to useless. And when I get annoyed, I start thinking about the fact that this is a discussion forum and not an advertisements web site. Maybe there is a reason the vast majority of advertisements are on advertisement web sites? Now for the utr aspect, obviously STG is unrealistic. But tryst, or Eros or more select sites? And the advertisement can be designed to hide identities and maintain privacy and let the ladies be selective. Maybe she needs to work a little harder at advertising instead of us having to read them here? I mean, how many of us come here looking for advertisements? And maybe the classifieds section on this site failed because people don't come to this site for them. Now having shared my perspective, feel free to tell me to fuck off or stop whining or hit the delete key or don't read them. All are valid reactions, and as a good citizen you have earned the right to use any or all of them. I would submit that not calling you BugleBoy should count in my favor. LOL.[/QUOTE]I hear you loud and clear and trust me, there are only a couple of people that warrant a "fuck off" and you (and Allbanny) are certainly not them. Sorry that the advertisement posts annoy you (and others) - wasn't the intention and as you know "No good deed goes unpunished".
Just don't like my name (online persona) being dragged through the mud, but you'e done to me, what I've done to Lilly. Told me honestly what you feel and I respect that. Thanks for NOT calling me Bugleboy. I'm married and intend to stay with her.
My guess is that Lilly will stop coming to Albany at some point which is a shame but that's my. 02.
Thanks for keeping it civil!
Stress.
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Stress, it's easy to keep it civil with a person of your caliber. And your reply just proved it yet again, and is much appreciated. And hopefully in the future people can make their points without dragging a good citizen through the mud. You're 1000% right about good deeds being punished. LOL. I hope Lilly keeps coming for the guys that visit her because she does fill a hugely important niche: sounds like she is safe and clean and delivers the service people pay for and is utr. That makes her valuable because you don't have to go looking for providers who could be dangerous or ripoffs. Hopefully Lilly could advertise her trips effectively and safely for her on a few other upscale sights. Or using mailing lists. Or you keep posting it here. I'll scroll past the Lilly advertisements forever on here if it saves one monger from getting arrested or hurt from losing Lilly and being forced to take chances with other providers. Fuck, if I can survive BugleBoys endless drama posts I sure as hell can survive a Lilly post once a month. Maybe just limit the Lilly post to one of you just once a month with just the travel dates, period. No extra narrative beyond the dates and link; short, sweet, and like a public service announcement. Which it would be in a way. Maybe we can keep the baby but throw out the extra words and extra posts bath water. Whatever works for everybody. If it is still too annoying, I for one would let you know. In a sick, twisted way BugleBoy’s endless drama posts will give your Lilly post cover. I’m not saying you should marry him or anything but maybe a quick handjob to show him your appreciation ? God, what a hobby we’ve chosen...lol.
[QUOTE=StressRelief;5425387]I hear you loud and clear and trust me, there are only a couple of people that warrant a "fuck off" and you (and Allbanny) are certainly not them. Sorry that the advertisement posts annoy you (and others) - wasn't the intention and as you know "No good deed goes unpunished".
Just don't like my name (online persona) being dragged through the mud, but you'e done to me, what I've done to Lilly. Told me honestly what you feel and I respect that. Thanks for NOT calling me Bugleboy. I'm married and intend to stay with her.
My guess is that Lilly will stop coming to Albany at some point which is a shame but that's my. 02.
Thanks for keeping it civil!
Stress.[/QUOTE]
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Eastern Zen Spa
Went here the other day, the one in Troy, with CiCi. First time here since pre covid.
Now, many are familiar with this place, and no point repeating what we already know.
But there were 5 new wrinkles I thought were worth mentioning.
Wrinkle 1 : When I got there, CiCi said they were not ready yet, and escorted me to a room to wait, telling me it would be one minute. That never happened before to me. The room was like a living room with nice chairs and couches. The wait actually really was only about one minute.
Wrinkle 2 : A different woman came in to get me from the waiting room, and brought me to a massage room, and started the massage. I did not get her name. She actually appeared to be about the same age as CiCi, and had the same body type, and actually I was not clear at first if this was actually CiCi or not; took me a minute or so to realize it was someone different.
Wrinkle 3 : The woman said they were only taking 1/2 hour appointments, as they were busy. Half hour is $40. That never happened to me here before, always got an hour. Her massage was amazingly good, by the way, as good as I have got at an AMP.
Wrinkle 4 : After a lengthy tease, upon flip, I saw that CiCi was now the one giving me the massage. I don't know if that is there new method of operation, splitting it between the 2 woman this way, or just me. Regardless, it was OK with me, and CiCi provided her usual level of service.
Wrinkle 5 : Both woman wore masks, when I asked CiCi if she could take it off she said no. Not sure if all places are still like this or not (Fuller also was when I went couple weeks ago).
Anyway, hope this is helpful to people. Overall, it was a very good experience.
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[QUOTE=RonJeremy69;5425475]Im not saying you should marry him or anything but maybe a quick handjob to show him your appreciation ? God, what a hobby weve chosen...lol.[/QUOTE]You my friend are a sick twisted fuck. LOL. LOVE IT!
Have a happy and safe 4th!
Stress.
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Finally
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Don't be a fucking drama queen. Post about the chick if you want and report the assholes who are giving you a hard time.
Why is that some hard for some of you guys?
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Hey, I resemble that remark...lol. Be safe too.
[QUOTE=StressRelief;5425843]You my friend are a sick twisted fuck. LOL. LOVE IT!
Have a happy and safe 4th!
Stress.[/QUOTE]