"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Donwhite;2041659]Texts you never want to get from a sugar baby: Literally just took a pregnancy test and I'm pregnant. I don't know how since we used a condom and I'm on birth control but it happened.

If she's telling the truth, it's a less than 1 percent chance of happening. Either I have super sperm, or I'm being played for $475 in abortion pill money. So, do I pay it or wait four more weeks to take a paternity test? I would see to it if she was local, but she lives 8 hours away from me.[/QUOTE]It appears that you are skeptical that she is telling you the truth (and should be). So it seems an offer to reimburse along with a copy of the paperwork would be the best move.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2041851]Planned parenthood average cost about $$$ Low income qualified women in los angeles only have to pay $100.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that brings up another point, it doesn't hurt to take a look at options available in her area for getting the cost down just to get a better perspective.

At the same time, I should say I would be very careful about suggesting things like what she should do, only because if she is telling the truth there are a gazillion things going through her head right now.

If true, the pregnancy / abortion issue is something that involves her body and if the tables were turned and we were getting ready to take some pill that had some effect on our sperm or nutsack, we probably wouldn't appreciate someone else saying "hey you need to get that drug cheaper via a Canadian mail order pharmacy where its been imported from China" or whatever. Ok, we're men so we already know about the cheaper options ... But female logic is different.

I'm just saying it's sensitive issue for most females so you want to approach everything with caution, and you won't win if you do anything to make the situation more volatile. Think about worst case scenario -- she spins out emotionally and says fuck it I'm having this kid and I'll see you in court for support. Avoid that nightmare at all cost. It will be hard for anyone to know the optimal way to handle it without knowing the girl's personality personally, so use your best judgement here.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2041864]Yeah, that brings up another point, it doesn't hurt to take a look at options available in her area for getting the cost down just to get a better perspective.

At the same time, I should say I would be very careful about suggesting things like what she should do, only because if she is telling the truth there are a gazillion things going through her head right now.

If true, the pregnancy / abortion issue is something that involves her body and if the tables were turned and we were getting ready to take some pill that had some effect on our sperm or nutsack, we probably wouldn't appreciate someone else saying "hey you need to get that drug cheaper via a Canadian mail order pharmacy where its been imported from China" or whatever. Ok, we're men so we already know about the cheaper options ... But female logic is different.

I'm just saying it's sensitive issue for most females so you want to approach everything with caution, and you won't win if you do anything to make the situation more volatile. Think about worst case scenario -- she spins out emotionally and says fuck it I'm having this kid and I'll see you in court for support. Avoid that nightmare at all cost. It will be hard for anyone to know the optimal way to handle it without knowing the girl's personality personally, so use your best judgement here.[/QUOTE]Having paid for about 10 over the years I finally got a vasectomy.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2041870]Having paid for about 10 over the years I finally got a vasectomy.[/QUOTE]Nice, it's the ultimate response to the pregnancy dilemma.

Her: I don't know how this happened but I'm pregnant and need -X- to cover the -y-.

Him: Who else have you been banging dear, I thought we were exclusive? I had a vasectomy a decade ago!

LOL.

Did this just happen? If so you need to show your concern and attention. It would be worth it to talk to her a lot and spend a little time with her. Regardless of the drive and the cost. You need to go into full damage control mode. Sounds like it is tool late for the morning after pill.

Remember you have absolutely zero rights right now. Just think about that for a minute. The ball is completely in her court. Hopefully she is not a manipulative *****. I have had only one scare. But it was with the coolest chick on the planet and she was ok with taking the morning after pill. Which I had her do in front of me. But she would not have done an abortion.

Did not like the feeling of helplessness one bit.

On another note my little princess bought some items at Fredricks of Hollywood and sent me some photos. She loves to show off for me. She will be wearing them tomorrow when we meet.

Life is good in the bowl. At least for now. LOL.

Revvo.

[QUOTE=Revvo;2041979]Did this just happen? If so you need to show your concern and attention. It would be worth it to talk to her a lot and spend a little time with her. Regardless of the drive and the cost. You need to go into full damage control mode. Sounds like it is tool late for the morning after pill.

Remember you have absolutely zero rights right now. Just think about that for a minute. The ball is completely in her court. Hopefully she is not a manipulative *****. I have had only one scare. But it was with the coolest chick on the planet and she was ok with taking the morning after pill. Which I had her do in front of me. But she would not have done an abortion.

Did not like the feeling of helplessness one bit.

On another note my little princess bought some items at Fredricks of Hollywood and sent me some photos. She loves to show off for me. She will be wearing them tomorrow when we meet.

Life is good in the bowl. At least for now. LOL.

Revvo.[/QUOTE]She's two weeks late. We hooked up on Feb. 23. She was in my area for a wedding and we met up. We used condoms and she supposedly was on birth control. I saw her birth control pills laying on the table in the hotel room so I know she wasn't lying about being on them. She swears she hasn't been with anyone else. She said she's going to Planned Parenthood to get the Abortion pill tomorrow. She went Friday, but they have a 24 hour waiting period after they give you all the information, before you can have the abortion. I guess I'll find out if she goes thru with it tomorrow.

FYI, She said the $475 was for the ultrasound, the abortion pill, pain pills and the 2 week followup appointment. She also said she might be able to get the student discount and bring it down to about $425. She said she's definitely not having it, but people can change their mind..

Nobody likes to get scammed, but Revvo is right. You must deal with this at all costs and no matter the inconvenience. Being in the 15th year of CS for a one night stand, let me assure you that the alternative is not good, and you literally have zero say in the matter from now until at least the year 2032.

[QUOTE=Donwhite;2042004]She's two weeks late. We hooked up on Feb. 23. She was in my area for a wedding and we met up. We used condoms and she supposedly was on birth control. I saw her birth control pills laying on the table in the hotel room so I know she wasn't lying about being on them. She swears she hasn't been with anyone else. She said she's going to Planned Parenthood to get the Abortion pill tomorrow. She went Friday, but they have a 24 hour waiting period after they give you all the information, before you can have the abortion. I guess I'll find out if she goes thru with it tomorrow.

FYI, She said the $475 was for the ultrasound, the abortion pill, pain pills and the 2 week followup appointment. She also said she might be able to get the student discount and bring it down to about $425. She said she's definitely not having it, but people can change their mind..[/QUOTE]For girls under 26 PP is free if you say you are indigent. And they don't ask for proof.

I send out about 100 intro letters a month. I get at most 8 affirmative responses. Then try to meet 2 to 4 new girls a month. In my area there are that many new girls a month. If I raised it to $$ I would probably get about 30 affirmatives a month. But there is a direct correlation between the more you pay the less E factor you get.

When I get rich again I,ll try it out. Till then I<ll go with what I can afford. And looks and performance do not go hand in hand. The up side is even if the performance is lacking you still get to be with a true hottie. But as I begin to age, get more perverted, and slower to get off, I need the skilled babes more than ever. But I,ll take a 7/7/9/9 over a 9/9/7/7 any day.

The quarterly report is coming up fast. And I have meticulous records to share. Wish I didn. T get sucked into the whole Bush bubble economy. I didn't save for the crash. Now I am living on wages, and still got to small family to support. Life sucks, but these girls make it worth living.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2042404]I send out about 100 intro letters a month. I get at most 8 affirmative responses. Then try to meet 2 to 4 new girls a month. In my area there are that many new girls a month. If I raised it to $$ I would probably get about 30 affirmatives a month. But there is a direct correlation between the more you pay the less E factor you get.[/QUOTE]Damn, count your blessings...in my area, I'd say my saved search for women 35 and under within 50 miles (no other criteria) returns about 20 new women each month, tops. If 8 out of 100 replied at $ and then one fourth to one half of those actually met, then I'd be looking at only meeting ONE new girl every five to ten weeks! And that's without any filtering based on appearance, and trust me, I believe that's far more necessary here than in Hollywood, haha.

"I'm pregnant ".

Go dark and forget her. Does she know where to find you?

Re: Pictures.

I use fakes provided by an escort I used to bang. She found them and I have never had any SB question them.

HL's Loss.

Sorry for your loss HL. Another option is to offer the escort rate again. They all need money. Anytime I have taken a SB private has not worked out. She is getting her jollies with the new age appropriate BF and doesn't need you for that, but she might come back for the Dough. Tell her "Honey, I can either get a new SB and pay her, or I would much rather pay you. What do you think? ".

I saw this on another board which I'm posting here for what it is worth. This topic over my head.

Post 1.

Google now using more secure methods to stop snooping of your private stuff.

[URL]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0[/URL], 2817,2455203,00.asp.

This is a good thing for mongers who store emails pics vids and contacts in there gmail acct instead of a phone so wives gfs can't find, bravo google!

Post 2.

Google had https set as the default since 2010, but a user still could go into their settings to change that if they wanted. Recently they took that option away (that's what this article discusses along with google implementing SSL between their own servers). What this does is to work to prevent network sniffing and man-the-middle attacks for connection between user and google's servers. What it doesn't do is still a lot.

Just remember, google, like all email service providers, are still forced to hand over data whenever the government / LEO tells them to. If you think you are totally secure then you are wrong. I'm not writing this to start an argument, I only want to remind everyone that everything they do on the net can be exploited someway or another. I do applaud you on taking your security serious though. I would caution you on your expectations on security with google voice too. It's good for somethings but it has a lot of risks too.

" last September and as I was separating myself from the escort scene and preparing for the bowl my SO busted me with undeniable evidence. ".

So HL, how did you calm your SO's fears and get back to Sugaring? This is the nightmare that all SDs deal with who are married eventually have to deal with.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2042784]"I'm pregnant ".

Go dark and forget her. Does she know where to find you?
[/QUOTE]Its the thing to do if you're very sure she's bluffing, but if she really is pregnant and has the kid she almost surely will come after the father for financial help, and whether she knows where to find you or not, a court can change that in 5 minutes with a subpoena to a service provider, and they will if paternity money is involved. Trying to bail might actually make total financial damages worse, I'd think as it comes across in court like a hit and run by a married guy (not good for popularity points).

If you used condoms why are you even thinking about this further, will his name be Harry Houdini, I mean that's a hell of a trick and all.

[QUOTE=Donwhite;2042004]She's two weeks late. We hooked up on Feb. 23. She was in my area for a wedding and we met up. We used condoms and she supposedly was on birth control. I saw her birth control pills laying on the table in the hotel room so I know she wasn't lying about being on them. She swears she hasn't been with anyone else. She said she's going to Planned Parenthood to get the Abortion pill tomorrow. She went Friday, but they have a 24 hour waiting period after they give you all the information, before you can have the abortion. I guess I'll find out if she goes thru with it tomorrow.

FYI, She said the $475 was for the ultrasound, the abortion pill, pain pills and the 2 week followup appointment. She also said she might be able to get the student discount and bring it down to about $425. She said she's definitely not having it, but people can change their mind..[/QUOTE]