Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Corona Two; 1164171]What a weird ride. I went to One Spa based on replies to my first post on this board.

And I promised to write a review and I didn't. And I'm sorry.

But the reason is because I met a girl there and I guess being an idiot who doesn't do this type of thing too often, I fell in love with her, and while she probably didn't love me, she liked me too. So we dated and I didn't want her to find out I was writing reviews on the board. Oh well. It's over now.

Some things that kind of bothered me but I'm not so sure about.

The owners of One Spa have a reputation for being "psychos"? If a girl makes them mad, they make a huge scene and "fire" the girls or whatever. I used to think they might be human trafficking victims from all the stories, but I learned a lot.

They really aren't sex slaves.

But I heard the owners at One Spa treat their girls very badly with a lot of verbal abuse calling them ugly and whatever. They also charge the girls $1000 a week for food, and $300 for 250 condoms, even though a box of 1000 condoms is only $120. This makes me kind of pissed off, but I don't know.

But the girls take it because the economy is bad all over the country, and One Spa is one of the few places where girls make tons of money. Some girls make $40, 000 in one month even after being ripped off $1000 a week and also paying for condoms.

She also says there is a lot of stress because:

1. There is only one bathroom that 8 girls have to share. So they have to sleep late and wake up early, and therefore get very little sleep.

2. The owners are psychos.

3. There are a lot of dumbass customers who waste their time. For example, a customer will go for a massage. ONLY a massage. They pay the mamasan $60 and the girl $0. In that situation the girl literally makes $0 and they have to take it because the owner makes $60 no matter what. Other customers will literally go all the way and have sex and either be "short" of the standard $140, or will have no money at all. And in those cases, the girls again get screwed. And the owners don't care, as long as they make their $60.

Also, finding out the real ages of the girls is pretty amazing. For example, Gigi is very pretty I thought. But I heard she's turning 40. She's only been in the business for a few years, though, so I wonder what she looked like when she was in her 20's and wasn't selling sex. Whoever dated her was very lucky. But then again, I also was shocked to learn about how much plastic surgery these girls get. Some spend $100, 000 on their face alone. I think I heard Julie was 30, and I would have guessed more like 21. She too had a ton of plastic surgery.

My advice on ever dating a girl. Don't fall in love. Just enjoy it for what it is. They are very different people. Meeting someone from a different country and getting along is hard enough. But meeting someone from the massage parlor culture is completely whack.

Just remember, there are plenty of people who go bankrupt, are poor, need money. Whatever. But they still work regular jobs and would never ever think of selling their bodies for sex. It's apparent to me that none of these massage parlor girls are sex slaves and are doing it out of their own free will. So anyone who is willing to sell their body for sex out of their own free will is wired a little bit differently. [/QUOTE]At risk of beating a dead horse with a stick (this subject should die) I will add my $40000 cents! First off, as I was reading this post (from a "New" member) it immediately struck me that there were many similarities in use of verbage (sp) to how another active OS poster writes. Hmmmm makes me wonder? I am certainly not the "All knowing" when it comes to the Spa's but I have been around a very long time and have gotten very very close to several girls over the years so I do understand the inner workings of these Spa's pretty well. I am sure that One Spa is run differently then a lower volume Spa like 1021 but the manner in which they are managed is very similar.

Certainly if the girls were being treated the way you explain there attitudes would be terrible and it would show in how they handle their day to day work, no one can hide the fact they hate there work and the ones that can hide it usually turn out to be very mechanical and not worth a visit so they quickly get weeded out of the rotation. 10+ guys a day would wear down any woman in a very short amount of time and again she would be weeded out quickly due to lacking service and bad attitude!

As for dating these little gems. It certainly is very possible and actually not terribly hard to do if you treat them with full respect, your looks are somewhat acceptable and you are very clean! Trust me these girls notice, they notice every little body odor, they notice if you come and are not clean ahead of your shower, they notice bad breath, they notice body odor, most of the reason for the shower and mouthwash is to give these poor girls some relief from all the smelly dirty guys they have to service for an hour, the TS is designed for there benefit too!

Lastly, while these girls are beautiful and fun to be with they do not make good wives or permanent GF's! Imagine what there life is like, they grew up in a culture that demands they provide for less fortunate family members, they have always been around either family or at least close co-workers 24/7 who come from there culture, speak there language and have similar interest. They do earn very well and while some save and send back money to there family others learn the western ways and spend all of what they earn. A true relationship with one of these girls would be very difficult as they really don't know or want to be a "Housewife" as they really have never cleaned cooked or care for a family other then providing money. I guess if you were looking to just have a hot Asian wife who you could have a great sex life with and then let her lay around all day feed her a wad of cash to go shopping then these girls would be ideal! Not all are this way but once you dig deep enough you will find most are.

Good post though, I do agree with some of what you say but most of it is either an isolated thing or total fiction, Just my $40000 cents!

Muffy

Recently ventured to 1021. Parking was much easier than described here, felt much safer than places like Newark, Mattapan, parts of Dorchester, or even tough Florida neighborhoods. Just the right amount of pedestrians and traffic. Walked in saw Meeka, I got Sandy. The table shower was better than expected kind of a fun experience but so is everything you can; 't do yourself, really now? Had the sauna, but don't really see a need for it. Got back, massage was good not great, but I wasn't there for it.

This place totally understands customer service, like few retail establishments of ANY kind, management is efficient and effective (one mamasan, asks at the end how it went, gives you the mint etc.). LOVE LOVE LOVE the light kissing that Sandy does. One negative is that the compliments and giggling is SO over the top, it seems fake, but I liked the attention have to admit. CB was great, I didn't even feel the cover. Finale wasn't a multiple position porn-style, but it got the job done, although since it was short time-wise may have been the least fun part. But really the TS and CB were so great, well worth it. I'm a boob guy, bvut I even loved the B's, since the nipples had the eraser effect. Didn't do DATY or FGR, a little stubble there for those that like / don't like that. Will be back, not sure if will ask for her again, or go for variety with Ruby or Tina.

Had great Italian food to wrap up the day, another Prov bonus.

I'd love to get me one of those Asian spa girls for a sugar momma. $40, 000 a month! Maybe I should become a provider for all the ladies out there. Any one ever watch the HBO show Hung? He nails some pretty hot chicks and gets paid for it. Oh wait, thats a tv show.

Its very hard to get behind the scenes info on the way spas operate. Spas have different styles, so high rotation spas like OS might vary with other types, but could be similar to other ones using the same approach. You can look all over the net and its hard to find info on spas as to what happens behind the scenes. I have alot of conversations with many of the girls in various spas, yet the info tends to be limited. The girls rarely tell you anything significant. (even Jackie giving me that customer headcount for the blizzard day, I found unusual). They treat it like its a secret society, probably each one agrees to keep everything secret, using the asian idea the the group matters over the individual. Much of my initial info first came from (ex NY korean bar owner)"Mya" (first spa girl that offered GFE heavy kissing to me). This back at DT in early January 2009 when they first started at the new location. She would always hint about going out which I declined, but she was very talkative and outgoing and friendly (too bad she smoked like a chimney, because she was cute with very long legs). And we had great conversations, and she explained how they recruit via Korean language newspapers in NY and so forth. But she obviously held back on other things.

While you quibble on the edges, I think Corona has presented some interesting info here. It even makes sense they might disguise what in essence is a room and board charge as just food, because in theory. The girls are not supposed to be living in a commercial building. The girls do get free lodging. Its a ripoff to them but yes it does make sense. The 40k issue is interesting because the average at OS is around 10 customers per day for each girl, with some customers opting for less than FS. Plus some have appointments."B" I was told by Jackie was "very popular", and I believe that meant she had established clientele and so forth, which also can help. Also the hotter girls can get more than 10 customers per day and they can get far higher percentages on FS. I asked Tina what the percent on FS was for her, she said it was a "secret". As some realize Tina was very very hot and also great personality, she could have been doing quite a high percentage. How many guys for example would turn down Julie for FS? Unless they never do FS with spa girls.

On the age things Corona as brought up, as I said in one of my reviews with, Julie she did almost flip out when I said I knew (on the 2nd session) that she really wasn't 21 but 23, then later I learned 27. So her being 30 is entirely possible, and in Korean culture 30 for women is somewhat old. This helps explained why she went ballistic on me. As for why I was kicking around a couple 1000 number with her, it was because my first impression was she looked like a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader to me, and you get a bit carried away when first meeting some of these girls. I would have followed through, maybe 6 sessions, but not quite 2k of course. Of couse Julie only lasted 2 weeks, and this may explain why she's unlikely to come back, the owners probably don't like that.

After my initial post on this subject, I did PM Corona suggesting I may have overstated my suggestion the numbers not tying here. LIke I said you can argue about detail, but overall there is some good points being presented.

Offshore Racer, I have replied to your PM I hope it helps.

Also I want to clarify that not everyone makes $40, 000. Just the top girls. But it is generally understood that the average here is $1000 per day after all expenses, and I also heard of one girl who doesn't make that much money at One Spa. But the owners let her stay around because she sucks up to the owners.

[QUOTE=Liecam;1165004]I'd love to get me one of those Asian spa girls for a sugar momma. $40, 000 a month! Maybe I should become a provider for all the ladies out there. Any one ever watch the HBO show Hung? He nails some pretty hot chicks and gets paid for it. Oh wait, thats a tv show.[/QUOTE]Stay thirsty my friends.

From the info provided, (compared to strippers) , OS girls would in essence be paying a house fee / tip out fee of around $150 per day. So in effect all profits from their first FS customer would take care of almost all their housing, food, condom, and living expenses for the day. That's not too bad. So the next 15 to 16 hours of time is pure profit. Obvously western girls however would never want to hang around that many hours on a job, so the length of day is quite difficult. Ok, now if the net 1000 is sort of the benchmark, some girls will undershoot and some will overshoot. But 1000 sounds like it coud be the standard.

I wouldn't mind knowing what perecent of customer do FS, because otherwise its far less pay. Also it would be interesting to know what percent of customers get lineups, because the high end girls would do much better. Jackie told me on the blizzard day they had 20 customers total, and she had 3. I will assuime they were all FS so she still made net 300 or so, and I believe she rested most of the day. Sylvia told me that they often have naps, but wakeup for lineups.

The girls this year in my opinion have beeen hotter than other years, so most guys would probably be happy with an assigned girl. As an example the 3 newly arrrived (and apparently new at OS) girls are all pushing 8 level IMHO. I remember having a showup (one after the other came into the room) maybe 6 or 7 girls right before the law change in Sept 2009, there were like maybe 2 or 3 attractive, the rest low 7's or some high 6's, and even the 2 attractive ones had sort a worn-hardened look. I heard the mamasan they have now is the major factor in picking the type of girls they get presently.

[QUOTE=Offshore Racer;1165107]Its very hard to get behind the scenes info on the way spas operate. Spas have different styles, so high rotation spas like OS might vary with other types, but could be similar to other ones using the same approach. You can look all over the net and its hard to find info on spas as to what happens behind the scenes. I have alot of conversations with many of the girls in various spas, yet the info tends to be limited. The girls rarely tell you anything significant. (even Jackie giving me that customer headcount for the blizzard day, I found unusual). They treat it like its a secret society, probably each one agrees to keep everything secret, using the asian idea the the group matters over the individual. Much of my initial info first came from (ex NY korean bar owner)"Mya" (first spa girl that offered GFE heavy kissing to me). This back at DT in early January 2009 when they first started at the new location.[/QUOTE]It's not an accident that information isn't out in the open. One Spa and and several others AMPs in RI are owned and run by Asian organized crime based out of NY and LA. They pay protection money to the mafia so they can operate a multi-million dollar operation in Providence.

Girls that are brand new to the business usually have an immigration debt to work off so initially they will not be making any money. This is what the feminazis on CNN and MSNBC refer to as "sex slavery" and "human trafficking". Some girls will decide to stay in the business once the debt is paid off because there is a lot of money to be made.

Been reading here about how good 1021 is and was actually thinking of going there today on my day off, but got lazy and didn't. Also, been reading about some reminiscing of the good old Hong Kong Ct days. One of the things they used to do there back in the day was a good ol rimming. Is that still done these days or is that a thing of the past. I don't think they do it at OS or Central when I've been there.

I've never been to 1021. Drove by it once and it seems kinda obscure. Blends in. I kept driving back and forth looking and looking for it. Do you just go in the front door off the street or is there a side or back entrance your suppose to use? Any info appreciated and when I go I will report. Sounds like its the "in" place right now where you get more bang for your buck

[QUOTE=Muffythediver; 1163908]Ruby is most definitely top notch for sure, if you see her multiple times it only gets better each time! You have not even scratched the surface with this girl with one or two visits. Trust me I know!

Muffy[/QUOTE]1021 just keeps rolling tens. I really like the whole experience younger there.

Have not had the pleasure of meeting Ruby yet but quickly saw her coming in the other day. Hmmm.

I wanted to see Tina again but couldn't find the darn number and call ahead.

Tina was occupied and Sandi was available. Certainly a different type visit from Tina but excellent still. Gave me the best as a GFE visit I have ever had at an AMP, I like that cause I don't go looking for FS but the experience with the lady. Not in just in a visual sense, but conceptionally it was like Gina or CICi from Pleasant on steroids if you know what I mean. Or reminiscent of Kay from old DT days I used to have.

I can see Sandi being giggly from a previous review her English may not be as good as Tina s but once she feels comfortable with you that giggling stopped quickly I observed.

I would see her again. Very sweet and affectionate. And yes quite skilled too.

[QUOTE=Moo Goo Guy; 1165998]Been reading here about how good 1021 is and was actually thinking of going there today on my day off, but got lazy and didn't. Also, been reading about some reminiscing of the good old Hong Kong Ct days. One of the things they used to do there back in the day was a good ol rimming. Is that still done these days or is that a thing of the past. I don't think they do it at OS or Central when I've been there.

I've never been to 1021. Drove by it once and it seems kinda obscure. Blends in. I kept driving back and forth looking and looking for it. Do you just go in the front door off the street or is there a side or back entrance your suppose to use? Any info appreciated and when I go I will report. Sounds like its the "in" place right now where you get more bang for your buck[/QUOTE]I am not into the rimming thing at all but I do remember Ruby doing a bit of it, nothing to the degree the old Hong Kong girls use to do but she did play a bit there. I don't think Tina would be into it but maybe someone else who enjoys that sort or thing has gotten it from Tina. I do not know anything about Sandy as I have never been with her and have only passed her in the hall very quickly one time.

As far as the entrance goes, there is a side entrance and a front entrance, just look for 1021 brightly displayed in neon and go up the stairs and down the hall, look for the door with the buzzer. Side entrance is a steel door with a buzzer just past the entrance to the little grocery store on the corner. Most of the time they will see you in the cam before you ever make it to the door inside.

Good Luck.

Muffy

[QUOTE=AsianLPGAfan; 1166007]1021 just keeps rolling tens. I really like the whole experience younger there.

Have not had the pleasure of meeting Ruby yet but quickly saw her coming in the other day. Hmmm.

I wanted to see Tina again but couldn't find the darn number and call ahead.

Tina was occupied and Sandi was available. Certainly a different type visit from Tina but excellent still. Gave me the best as a GFE visit I have ever had at an AMP, I like that cause I don't go looking for FS but the experience with the lady. Not in just in a visual sense, but conceptionally it was like Gina or CICi from Pleasant on steroids if you know what I mean. Or reminiscent of Kay from old DT days I used to have.

I can see Sandi being giggly from a previous review her English may not be as good as Tina s but once she feels comfortable with you that giggling stopped quickly I observed.

I would see her again. Very sweet and affectionate. And yes quite skilled too. [/QUOTE]I don't think you can go wrong with any of the current girls at 1021, Mika certainly has the "A" team on board! There is no better "Bang for your buck" as far as I am concerned and that goes for any other Spa, Escorts or strip joints in the state and for that matter anywhere stateside! The only thing that comes to my mind as being better would be the Philippines or Thailand! Damn, If someone ever opened up a Spa and had Filipina's and Thai chicks I would be fucking BROKE ASS!

Muffy

[QUOTE=Pro Staff; 1165776]It's not an accident that information isn't out in the open. One Spa and and several others AMPs in RI are owned and run by Asian organized crime based out of NY and LA. They pay protection money to the mafia so they can operate a multi-million dollar operation in Providence.

Girls that are brand new to the business usually have an immigration debt to work off so initially they will not be making any money. This is what the feminazis on CNN and MSNBC refer to as "sex slavery" and "human trafficking". Some girls will decide to stay in the business once the debt is paid off because there is a lot of money to be made. [/QUOTE]Enjoy the hobbying while you may have the money, times and health to do so. I have been doing this a long time and have seen many things " out there" and have also fought off infatuation, rescue fantasies, temptations to consider what if. And Lebron thought his decision was hard! The social script to this is complicated. There are just too many stories out there. That led to a common path. It is easy to stereotype and certainly The mainstream and "PC" want everyone out there knowing such. Now we have this silly law in RI

But unless I REALLY know a particular lady I know jack sh#t about her just as much she knows about me and we do about each other.

Rent the movie " Exotica" it is from the 90s. It is about the complexity of relationships and boundaries. If you are the shrinky type.

I don't know if I would want the keys to enter this secret forbidden city. Sometimes it is best to just quickly look in the window then walk on by.

In life you need to know the difference when you should just buy a ticket to the circus versus the time to get put in it.

[QUOTE=Muffythediver; 1166043]IThe only thing that comes to my mind as being better would be the Philippines or Thailand! Damn, If someone ever opened up a Spa and had Filipina's and Thai chicks I would be fucking BROKE ASS!

Muffy[/QUOTE]Agreed! I love Filipinas. Never been with a Thai chick, though, and doubt I'll be able to make a trip over to Thailand to sample anytime soon.

I have received various levels of this service a few times. 3 of them at 1021 with providers who are no longer there, and several times at FE with Candy who I doubt is there now. Candy was especially adept, with a plunging tongue.