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[QUOTE=Joseph254;5211715]I texted and got a call back left a voicemail. Didn't sound like who you described seemed very pushy on the message. How far North is she? I said area I was close too she said I was 15 minutes away. I am south of JTown. Any other helpful info please let me know. I tried to PM but your box is full.[/QUOTE]She was by Touhy when I saw her. She's legit.
[QUOTE=AnzieLeo44;5149612]Guess I can share my Kara story now.
Late last summer I saw a couple glowing reviews and some discussion on this board about Kara so decided to go see her (she is advertised as independent but managed by Markus.).
Kara was the holy grail. 21 year old college spinner with 10/10 face / body. Educated, sweet, sophisticated. Total GFE. And the icing on the cake: BBFSCIP.
In a decade of hobbying I've seen providers in their early 20's, providers with a beautiful face, great body, smart providers who could carry on a conversation, truly GFE providers, BBFS providers. But never all in one package. Kara was it.
At the end of that first meeting she asked if I wanted her real number to arrange future meetings directly. I of course accepted and we ended up seeing each other basically every week for the next 5-6 weeks, each time better than the last.
Then we decided to start dating for real. And almost immediately everything went downhill.
I won't divulge the details but the next few months were dramatic, painful, and expensive. She was basically Ginger from the movie Casino. Intoxicatingly sweet and beautiful but a pathological liar. Pretty sure she got me blacklisted from seeing other Markus girls in the process.[/QUOTE]Got to be careful dating any provider. Remember it's just infatuation. You're setting your self up to go broke and have a ton of heartache.
JC.
Jamie was very high on my list and I am about ready to venture out post COVID. She had good reviews here some time ago. Sha has not posted recently. Anybody know if she is still around? I hope so!
PM would be perfect if you have any current info. I am not on here often, and message replies on the board get lost in a long list pretty quickly.
Thanks and stay safe out there!
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[QUOTE=Moejoo;5215503]My takeaway from the OP's first post on her was that he thought that was something special she offered to him which was one of the reasons he thought he was something special to her. As the subject evolved he has become more convinced that it may be her standard method to bring guys in for away from agency income.[/QUOTE]I sure wish people would realize that no girls do BB for "only" them, I've been to a bunch of agency chicks, and a lot of them are bb from the 2nd visit onward.
Might as well tell the class, since that's the point of this.
[QUOTE=Moejoo;5215503]My takeaway from the OP's first post on her was that he thought that was something special she offered to him which was one of the reasons he thought he was something special to her. As the subject evolved he has become more convinced that it may be her standard method to bring guys in for away from agency income.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DeepBlueBc;5215911]I sure wish people would realize that no girls do BB for "only" them, I've been to a bunch of agency chicks, and a lot of them are bb from the 2nd visit onward.
Might as well tell the class, since that's the point of this.[/QUOTE]Lots of assumptions here, all inaccurate. I knew BBFS was a possibility with Kara before I met her because a previous TER review had mentioned it. The scam she was pulling goes far beyond that.
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[URL]https://youtu.be/bbpGkrViOcE[/URL][/QUOTE]That video is a goddamn classic and should be in the recommended list of every young man. Download it now, someday it will go down the memory hole.
Some things to keep in mind about that vid (these are generalizations):
1) That vid is about *civilians*. The craziness just increases with pros.
2) As the video says, any woman can move at any time from one part of that matrix to an entirely different part of that matrix. It can happen for utterly trivial reasons.
3) Guys tend to do stuff for hot chicks and put up with more crap from them. A girl has complete contempt for a guy that does this. Nothing beats an IDGAF attitude. You can't necessarily change her reaction, but at least you're not encouraging it, and you won't be around for extra helpings.
4) Independently, the hotter she is in the sack, the more likely she is to be utterly nuts, as in Borderline Personality Disorder. (Contrary to the name, there's nothing"borderline" about it. That is full blown crazy, edging into pure evil.) It's all great fun until your bunny gets boiled.
[QUOTE=Tinley708;5215750]Jamie was very high on my list and I am about ready to venture out post COVID. She had good reviews here some time ago. Sha has not posted recently. Anybody know if she is still around? I hope so!
PM would be perfect if you have any current info. I am not on here often, and message replies on the board get lost in a long list pretty quickly.
Thanks and stay safe out there!
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6304154516/1[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't copy / paste the links right now, but she's been reviewed by me and several others sometime in 2019. She's real and provides service, but everyone seems to agree its a strange experience. When I saw her she hosted out of a house. If her MO hasn't changed in two years and you consider receiving oral part of an experience, you'll be disappointed. She had some weird policy where you could kiss lightly and DATY, but she won't go down on you on a first meet (not sure what happens after that as I didn't repeat). She tried to make up for it with some faked dirty talk, like "I'm a f%%er not a s%%er" but it made the whole session feel kind of forced. She has a good body for her age, is bargain priced, and you'll end up serviced in some form, but I don't know if she belongs at the top of any list and certainly isn't worth going too far out of your way for.
[QUOTE=OnlyDreams;5212717]I wanted to set up an appointment with a provider I used to see and she told me she can't because she's filing her income taxes. I know she's a full time provider and doesn't have any job. I wonder what type of job she puts there, does she tell her accountant blowjob is worth this much, full service this much, Greek this much and so on. But for sure she must make more money than most of us! Once I read a report about some provider in Chicago making over $700 K a year![/QUOTE]You just list occupation and 'entertainer' or 'consultant' IRS doesn't give a shit what you do. They are idiots if they don't file taxes and can't account for whatever they spend etc.
[QUOTE=DWaits;5213129]I know this is probably a joke, but figured I'd reply.
I'm not a gambler so I don't know how people file taxes based on winnings, but I heard from a friend who worked in a govt job at one point that there is an option to file a fifth amendment tax return. Basically, you are protecting yourself against the IRS in case you get busted for whatever illegal job you are doing. Of course, I think she could just file as independent contractor and not list the business and that would be that. I always wondered if the IRS shared those fifth amendment returns with other agencies. Will have to ask my friend next time I talk to him.[/QUOTE]If you get gambling winnings from a casino there is a 1099-G form. You can offest losses that you can prove but losses can't be more than winnings. No such thing as 5th amendment return. You could even say Escort and they wouldn't give a shit. Consultant is always safe.
[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5215935]That video is a goddamn classic and should be in the recommended list of every young man. Download it now, someday it will go down the memory hole.
Some things to keep in mind about that vid (these are generalizations):
1) That vid is about *civilians*. The craziness just increases with pros.
2) As the video says, any woman can move at any time from one part of that matrix to an entirely different part of that matrix. It can happen for utterly trivial reasons.
3) Guys tend to do stuff for hot chicks and put up with more crap from them. A girl has complete contempt for a guy that does this. Nothing beats an IDGAF attitude. You can't necessarily change her reaction, but at least you're not encouraging it, and you won't be around for extra helpings.
4) Independently, the hotter she is in the sack, the more likely she is to be utterly nuts, as in Borderline Personality Disorder. (Contrary to the name, there's nothing"borderline" about it. That is full blown crazy, edging into pure evil.) It's all great fun until your bunny gets boiled.[/QUOTE]That video is an incel who couldn't get laid unless he can pay.
[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5215935]That video is a goddamn classic and should be in the recommended list of every young man. Download it now, someday it will go down the memory hole.
Some things to keep in mind about that vid (these are generalizations):
1) That vid is about *civilians*. The craziness just increases with pros.
2) As the video says, any woman can move at any time from one part of that matrix to an entirely different part of that matrix. It can happen for utterly trivial reasons.
3) Guys tend to do stuff for hot chicks and put up with more crap from them. A girl has complete contempt for a guy that does this. Nothing beats an IDGAF attitude. You can't necessarily change her reaction, but at least you're not encouraging it, and you won't be around for extra helpings.
4) Independently, the hotter she is in the sack, the more likely she is to be utterly nuts, as in Borderline Personality Disorder. (Contrary to the name, there's nothing"borderline" about it. That is full blown crazy, edging into pure evil.) It's all great fun until your bunny gets boiled.[/QUOTE]I'd imagine men and women are both just as screwed up. It's that women also have have to deal with hormonal changes each month whereas men have higher test and the associated machismo that goes with thinking with your dick.
I posted this in Aurora also. Looking for a massage / BBBJ ending in suburbs. Anybody seen this one?
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[QUOTE=Lance18;5217347]I posted this in Aurora also. Looking for a massage / BBBJ ending in suburbs. Anybody seen this one?
[URL]https://sofiafabiani69.wixsite.com/oasis/gallery[/URL][/QUOTE]You're willing to spend $300 for just a blowjob?
[QUOTE=ElJefe69;5217370]You're willing to spend $300 for just a blowjob?[/QUOTE]Was hoping she was FS for price point. If not I will skip.
[QUOTE=Lance18;5217909]Was hoping she was FS for price point. If not I will skip.[/QUOTE]Do a number search reviews says FS.
[QUOTE=JesusCollins;5215683]Got to be careful dating any provider. Remember it's just infatuation. You're setting your self up to go broke and have a ton of heartache.
JC.[/QUOTE]I was dating a provider and she was getting too attached and I had to break it off. She wanted more then I could offer. I still see her and she recently got married. She tells me she loves me. I still BBFSCIP and CIA. She tells me I'm the only one and her husband. You know it's all bullshit. She tells me her husband wants her to quit but she still wants to keep seeing me. I'm glad I didn't get more serious with her.
Visiting from out of town and wanted to sample the local talent. I ended up scheduling an hour with Lexi. Hot little spinner. Red head. Cute face. Natural DDs. Her in the pics. $$ for the hour outcall CFS. Not a clock watcher. Came to the room, got down to business and hung out after. The only drawback was CBJ. If I can see her again while I'm in town I definitely will.
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If anyone has any tips to share while I'm here I'm open to suggestions.
Set up a reservation for high quality sushi served on top of a nude model! (North Chicago).
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[URL]https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady/status/1363312732251049985[/URL]
I was going to aks her for contact info, as I'd rather make the "donations" directly, LOL.
New joint in north Chicago offering a high end sushi tasting experience on top of naked women. One of a kind experience. It IS a high ticket price, but totally worth it. PM me for more info. They do a walk through of the whole experience prior to your reservation. They require a deposit during the meet and greet. Models are smoking hot, and the food is top notch!
[QUOTE=JesusCollins;5215683]Got to be careful dating any provider. Remember it's just infatuation. You're setting your self up to go broke and have a ton of heartache.
JC.[/QUOTE]I always assumed I would end up with a provider. They get me more than normal women. And honestly, the three or four providers I dated weren't any crazier than regular girls I've dated. For the most part. There was one exception but she has some serious demons. And there was one girl I dated who wasn't a provider at the time we dated but became one later.
She advertises on Tryst, and I RTFF and did not see any info on her. Anyone have any experience with her? Is she a former agency girl? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5218366][URL]https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady/status/1363312732251049985[/URL]
I was going to aks her for contact info, as I'd rather make the "donations" directly, LOL.[/QUOTE]What many don't know, realize or understand is that certain types of transactions are NOT allowed per the TOS and if more people would read them (very carefully) they would know that.
As an example, PayPal does NOT allow you to use them to pay for pictures / media content that is NOT published in a magazine or website. I'm guessing that has to do with the legal age and verifications required and trying to avoid lawsuits. In their TOS it is an automatic permanent ban and they take up to 6 months to decide IF they will keep your money and / or how much as a penalty / compensation for damages that they think you have caused. PayPal will also freeze your account, you can log into it but can NOT change or delete anything you have listed. Like many apps, companies for money transfer, they are NOT allowed to be used for any illegal activities which a SWer is conducting.
No, I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't use / do the transfers, just be aware of what the terms say and the consequences for doing it.
I was just kidding. Believe me, my "donations" are virtually always done in person with cash. I just thought the shit being on Twatter was funny as hell.
[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;5218690]What many don't know, realize or understand is that certain types of transactions are NOT allowed per the TOS and if more people would read them (very carefully) they would know that.
As an example, PayPal does NOT allow you to use them to pay for pictures / media content that is NOT published in a magazine or website.
No, I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't use / do the transfers, just be aware of what the terms say and the consequences for doing it
.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5218480]I always assumed I would end up with a provider. They get me more than normal women. And honestly, the three or four providers I dated weren't any crazier than regular girls I've dated. For the most part. There was one exception but she has some serious demons. And there was one girl I dated who wasn't a provider at the time we dated but became one later.[/QUOTE]I am impressed that you guys can pull it from being a John to dating the provider. I pay for the hour and we do what we do and then I leave and she is with the next John. Few had texted me later with a generic " thank you for seeing me" and twice I have driven providers once to another hotel and one girl to Milwaukee where we had lunch but that was it. Only one provider told me she is f at cking a former client off the clock when she is in town but she keeps touring and f at cking hundreds of others for a living so they are not real gf and bf. Anyway respect if you guys can move from a client to a bf material.
If you are dating a provider you can be virtually certain she is doing it solely for the free meals and other benefits of your money / connections.
[QUOTE=StanKost;5219216]I am impressed that you guys can pull it from being a John to dating the provider. I pay for the hour and we do what we do and then I leave and she is with the next John. Few had texted me later with a generic " thank you for seeing me" and twice I have driven providers once to another hotel and one girl to Milwaukee where we had lunch but that was it. Only one provider told me she is f at cking a former client off the clock when she is in town but she keeps touring and f at cking hundreds of others for a living so they are not real gf and bf. Anyway respect if you guys can move from a client to a bf material.[/QUOTE]I'm really good at building chemistry with women. Always have been. It's been a curse and a blessing at times.
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;5219235]If you are dating a provider you can be virtually certain she is doing it solely for the free meals and other benefits of your money / connections.[/QUOTE]Depends on the woman and who she's dating. Some of the more jaded ones are definitely like that. The full time hookers are definitely like that. But when you get to the girls who don't work all day and all night they tend to be a little more adjusted and can act normal.
[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5219197]I was just kidding. Believe me, my "donations" are virtually always done in person with cash. I just thought the shit being on Twatter was funny as hell.[/QUOTE]Sorry if that came across as directed at / about you. It was more of a generalized comment about the TOS of payment apps / sites. I followed the link and read the twitter comments about how the prson was mad that her CashApp was closed and she had to go on a tirade for her money. It seemed like they were open about the SWer activity and why they probably got booted which has been a big push since the FOSTA crap. It could also be a heads up to others that may not have read the TOS or aware.
[QUOTE=Chaehyun;5218443]New joint in north Chicago offering a high end sushi tasting experience on top of naked women. One of a kind experience. It IS a high ticket price, but totally worth it. PM me for more info. They do a walk through of the whole experience prior to your reservation. They require a deposit during the meet and greet. Models are smoking hot, and the food is top notch![/QUOTE]Can you fuck them afterwards?
[QUOTE=Chandler89;5218667]She advertises on Tryst, and I RTFF and did not see any info on her. Anyone have any experience with her? Is she a former agency girl? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]She shares places with other providers (I saw Kennedy C, she gave a good review so I was considering taking a plunge).
[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;5219387]Can you fuck them afterwards?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not LOL.
[QUOTE=Chandler89;5218667]She advertises on Tryst, and I RTFF and did not see any info on her. Anyone have any experience with her? Is she a former agency girl? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]This was over 6 months ago so my memory is a bit foggy. I was interested in seeing her and followed her links to her other provider social media accounts and posts. I didn't like the feminist attitude she projected and when I saw a picture of her proudly posing with hairy armpits I unfollowed her accounts and moved on.
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;5219235]If you are dating a provider you can be virtually certain she is doing it solely for the free meals and other benefits of your money / connections.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I made the mistake of accepting a providers private number after a phenomenal session, and at first it was great to get extra mind blowing sessions at a lower cost; but eventually they asked when I would see them again, then they started asking for help and favors and started to harass.
Never develop a relationship with a provider beyond the transaction, no matter how good it is.
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Dreamt of this one. 1. 3 for qv. Nice bolts ons but had what she called "sand flea" bites all over. Not much to tell. Just that she isn't uncle LEO.
[QUOTE=WildRider80;5219816[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/58888168/[/URL]
Dreamt of this one. 1. 3 for qv. Nice bolts ons but had what she called "sand flea" bites all over. Not much to tell. Just that she isn't uncle LEO.[/QUOTE]"no cpif" listed in ad. Guessing she means CIP?
[QUOTE=WildRider80;5219816][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/58888168/[/URL]
Dreamt of this one. 1. 3 for qv. Nice bolts ons but had what she called "sand flea" bites all over. Not much to tell. Just that she isn't uncle LEO.[/QUOTE]Not going to be many of them in Chicago in the middle of February with a foot of snow on the ground. Depending on where you visited I'd check to see if you brought some bedbugs home with you.
-w.
[QUOTE=WildRider80;5219816[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/58888168/[/URL]
Dreamt of this one. 1. 3 for qv. Nice bolts ons but had what she called "sand flea" bites all over. Not much to tell. Just that she isn't uncle LEO.[/QUOTE]What neighborhood was she hosting out of?
[QUOTE=BenSpend;5219923]"no cpif" listed in ad. Guessing she means CIP?[/QUOTE]CPIF = Cum Perfectly Into Fallopian (tubes).
These two were recently posted on their Twitter. But nothing on their site. Anyone have any info?
(whoops. wrong forum)