[QUOTE=SamSinger;2958888]GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.[/QUOTE]That is all.
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[QUOTE=SamSinger;2958888]GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.[/QUOTE]That is all.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.
So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.
Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.
Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.
I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.
Just my. 02.
Thrillseeker.
[QUOTE=Thrillseeker2;2960060]Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.
Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.
Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.
I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.
Just my. 02.
Thrillseeker.[/QUOTE]Yup, have that happen to be in Lake Zurich and DeerField. Never asked for extras as didn't seem like worth the effort.
[QUOTE=PwnLife;2958292]What about asking for the tip as part of the door fee? And maybe advertise no tip necessary but appreciated? Call it a "Certified Massage Therapist Tip" or something. As a monger, I might be pissed off and not come back or maybe won't even patronize the place in the first place (which is probably better for you anyways), since you don't want that kind of customer.
Don't have lockable doors, just curtains. Have open ceilings. Have fragile massage tables that can't bear the weight of having sex.[/QUOTE]I agree with the curtains and walls that do not go all of the up. I was at a massage parlor in Shanghai that used heavy curtains to separate the rooms instead of actual walls. I could not see anyone trying for extras with that kind of set up. I certainly did not and most Chinese massage parlors on China include HE in the massage as standard. No tipping.
Maybe install fake cameras that are somewhat hidden but also easy to spot along with signs that state something about electronic surveillance. That would definitely be a boner killer and should deter mongers who are only interested in extras.
I'm a legit regular (every two weeks) at Heavenly Massage and they are 95% legit. But they have (1) uniforms, sort of (2) a beauty parlor inside (3) groupons (4) a questionaire and email notifications. (5) nice standing shower with steam to clean off the oil. (6) full draped sheets. (7) Well done website. (8) Female yelp reviews. Frankly, it's one of the better legit massage establishments I know. It does most of the recommended things. It's mainly Euro. Bob.
[QUOTE=Thrillseeker2;2960060]Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.
Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.
Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.
I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.
Just my. 02.
Thrillseeker.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
Long time reader, and figured it's time for me to start contributing.
I decided to bite the bullet and try the Latin place that advertises from time to time on BP. A maps site can also help find them, located in the NW part of the city north of what I'd think of as Logan Square. The place is behind an what looks like a cheap garage, with an unmarked door on the side. My provider let me in, revealing a room with a crappy couch and old TV which was on. Although they advertised a 'table shower,' the setup was really barebones and DIY. I'd asked for an hour but the provider "recommended" a half hour.
The provider, a 5 ft chubby curvy (as opposed to sexy curved) girl maybe in her early 20's led me to a partitioned area made of concrete cinderblocks that did not lead to the ceiling. It looked like there was another 'room' next door, which, if they ever had two providers working, could have been highly awkward.
I got the lightest, most cursory massage I'd had in a while, followed by a short menu with firm prices on the flip; asking for $. 6 for a HJ which seemed on the high side. The girl seemed like she didn't really enjoy or care about what she was doing, and didn't seem to want to hide it.
Other people might have better luck, especially with other providers, but I know I won't be returning.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2960409]I'm a legit regular (every two weeks) at Heavenly Massage and they are 95% legit. But they have (1) uniforms, sort of (2) a beauty parlor inside (3) groupons (4) a questionaire and email notifications. (5) nice standing shower with steam to clean off the oil. (6) full draped sheets. (7) Well done website. (8) Female yelp reviews. Frankly, it's one of the better legit massage establishments I know. It does most of the recommended things. It's mainly Euro. Bob.[/QUOTE]It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.
Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).
I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.
PM ok.
BB.
I always make sure a Massage Therapist offers Extra Play at the first visit. I'm not one that makes numerous visits hoping to get a HJ.
There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.
I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.
I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.
Bob
[QUOTE=BenBeck;2960487]It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.
Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).
I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.
PM ok.
BB.[/QUOTE]
I had two very different experiences here on my two trips. The first time the girl was DFK right out of the gates, and pretty much said I could do whatever I wanted to her. She wasn't the girl in the pics and much heavier so I opted to have her give me a CBJ - $. 60 all in as quoted on the website.
Second time there sounded much for like your experience. Mediocre.
[QUOTE=HunterP;2960450]Hey guys,
Long time reader, and figured it's time for me to start contributing.
I decided to bite the bullet and try the Latin place that advertises from time to time on BP. A maps site can also help find them, located in the NW part of the city north of what I'd think of as Logan Square. The place is behind an what looks like a cheap garage, with an unmarked door on the side. My provider let me in, revealing a room with a crappy couch and old TV which was on. Although they advertised a 'table shower,' the setup was really barebones and DIY. I'd asked for an hour but the provider "recommended" a half hour.
The provider, a 5 ft chubby curvy (as opposed to sexy curved) girl maybe in her early 20's led me to a partitioned area made of concrete cinderblocks that did not lead to the ceiling. It looked like there was another 'room' next door, which, if they ever had two providers working, could have been highly awkward.
I got the lightest, most cursory massage I'd had in a while, followed by a short menu with firm prices on the flip; asking for $. 6 for a HJ which seemed on the high side. The girl seemed like she didn't really enjoy or care about what she was doing, and didn't seem to want to hide it.
Other people might have better luck, especially with other providers, but I know I won't be returning.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RonM;2960525]I always make sure a Massage Therapist offers Extra Play at the first visit. I'm not one that makes numerous visits hoping to get a HJ.[/QUOTE]To each his own. I like to get a good legit massage often and without any expectation or attempt for extras. The best legit massages have usually come from licensed pros, and I stick with a few go-tos. It also has happened that, in a couple of cases, after getting to know them and developing a genuine mutual fondness, things turned naturally in another direction.
So, it's not the only possible scenario to be desperately hanging on, wasting their money and time in the unlikely hope that it might come through. It's sometimes just a nice surprise bonus, as I said.
I'm guessing anyone looking for something extra pretty much knows how and where. Some guys also seem to like the sport of the chase. Not me.
Respect,
BB.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2960547]There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.
I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.
I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.
Bob[/QUOTE]I always tip something based on the quality of the massage even if there are no extras involved. If I go in hoping for extras and do not get anything it is not the therapists fault for my expectations. Therapist who try to negotiate an outrageous tip upfront are somewhat of an exception. In one or two cases we could not agree an cost of extras and I was significantly shorted on time and given a less than mediocre finger poking. I did not tip and explained why. Paid for hour got 35 minutes and no attempt at a real massage.
[QUOTE=BenBeck;2959254]Grope on, That is all.[/QUOTE]Ha. I was not sure if any of you will catch my drift. If GroupOn does not do a Group On (Gang bang) who will? :)
This happened to me recently. I went to an old ATF at her one woman shop. Exchanged hugs and she closed and locked the door behind me or so I thought. The door didn't click into the latch as I would soon discover. She escorts me into the back into the massage room I undress completely, lie down and she begins her massage, door to massage room open cause why not, we are behind an outer glass door, the door to her massage parlor, the one I thought was locked and yet another door to the rear that was left open.
I don't know maybe 30 minutes goes by and while still meeting a modified definition of the term 'face down ass up' I hear a man's voice go 'oh' and she rushes out of the room saying, can I help you'. She is leading him back towards the front, I sit up and hear him say ' I just wanted some information' . She leads him all the way back to the front, answers his questions quickly and gets back to me. She said oh my god I thought I locked the door but it didn't latch close. The part that was creepy and weird was when he opened the not latched door and entered the office foyer, never said anything like 'hello, anyone here' and wait for a response, nope he came right in, we didn't hear him and got surprised (we did have the universal korean massage parlor mix tape playing) All I can say is that maybe him discovering me there, thru him off his intentions or he was just a creepy dude.
Needless to say it was a bit of bone killer but I finished what I came for. As I was getting dressed, she said earlier a monger who claimed she knew him, asked her to come to his home for $$$ but she declined cause she said she didn't think she knew him and didn't want anything to happen to her as she made the universal sign for throat slashing. She works alone cause she said girls get jealous when they work together in a massage parlor and bicker and gossip. I told her 'korean ladies bicker and gossip, get out' her face turned serious for a moment until she realized wired one had made a funny.
A monger also called and said he would be there at 6:30 pm so I told her I would call at 8 pm to make sure everything was okay. I did call and she said she was okay and for being nice, no charge for my full set massage next weekend (a massage parlor may advertise as a half-set (HE) or a full-set (full service) massage parlor when they advertise for ladies in the korean language newspapers).
So always be aware and as Bob521 says (for those of you who didn't already know) treat the ladies with some common decency and you may be rewarded.
Wired.
Well the only thing this is missing is a LEO sighting.
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2962064]This happened to me recently. I went to an old ATF at her one woman shop. Exchanged hugs and she closed and locked the door behind me or so I thought. The door didn't click into the latch as I would soon discover. She escorts me into the back into the massage room I undress completely, lie down and she begins her massage, door to massage room open cause why not, we are behind an outer glass door, the door to her massage parlor, the one I thought was locked and yet another door to the rear that was left open.
I don't know maybe 30 minutes goes by and while still meeting a modified definition of the term 'face down ass up' I hear a man's voice go 'oh' and she rushes out of the room saying, can I help you'. She is leading him back towards the front, I sit up and hear him say ' I just wanted some information' . She leads him all the way back to the front, answers his questions quickly and gets back to me. She said oh my god I thought I locked the door but it didn't latch close. The part that was creepy and weird was when he opened the not latched door and entered the office foyer, never said anything like 'hello, anyone here' and wait for a response, nope he came right in, we didn't hear him and got surprised (we did have the universal korean massage parlor mix tape playing) All I can say is that maybe him discovering me there, thru him off his intentions or he was just a creepy dude.
Needless to say it was a bit of bone killer but I finished what I came for. As I was getting dressed, she said earlier a monger who claimed she knew him, asked her to come to his home for $$$ but she declined cause she said she didn't think she knew him and didn't want anything to happen to her as she made the universal sign for throat slashing. She works alone cause she said girls get jealous when they work together in a massage parlor and bicker and gossip. I told her 'korean ladies bicker and gossip, get out' her face turned serious for a moment until she realized wired one had made a funny.
A monger also called and said he would be there at 6:30 pm so I told her I would call at 8 pm to make sure everything was okay. I did call and she said she was okay and for being nice, no charge for my full set massage next weekend (a massage parlor may advertise as a half-set (HE) or a full-set (full service) massage parlor when they advertise for ladies in the korean language newspapers).
So always be aware and as Bob521 says (for those of you who didn't already know) treat the ladies with some common decency and you may be rewarded.
Wired.[/QUOTE]
I usually tip if the massage was good OR at least there was an effort for it (amount may vary based on quality).
If other items were on the menu the tip would vary accordingly but at least there would be minimum for the service itself. I agree if the understanding was clear going in the place it would change the tipping scenario considerably!
[QUOTE=Bob521;2960547]There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.
I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.
I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.
Bob[/QUOTE]
MH, drew "Lisa. " Not a looker by any means, but nice bolt ons to play with on the flip.
Massage was decent, I've definitely had worse in a legit place.
Not quite a jackhammer in technique, but could have been gentler.
There was another MT there worth a second look. Maybe I'll go back next week and find out.
[QUOTE=CallMeSlappy;2963614]MH, drew "Lisa. " Not a looker by any means, but nice bolt ons to play with on the flip.
Massage was decent, I've definitely had worse in a legit place.
Not quite a jackhammer in technique, but could have been gentler.
There was another MT there worth a second look. Maybe I'll go back next week and find out.[/QUOTE]It is funny how so many of the women here that are offering extras have no technique for a simple HJ. I have been to many Chinese massage parlors overseas and they are definitely trained how to perform a satisfying HJ. They take their time and know how to let things build up slowly for a great finish. The noises and facial expressions are a little over the top for a HJ but I think that is for the foreigners only. I even had a couple therapists perform what I think may have been ED treatment. Applying pressure to my pelvis and the area below the scrotum. That was uncomfortable when she was doing it however I had the most satisfying ejaculation afterword's. Maybe I will ask someone to make a training video next time I go.
[QUOTE=Chimonger;2957397]Back on the horse and went to Belmont. The girls there range from older 40's to a really sexy girl who looks like she's lower 20's. Also speaks pretty good english. Got the older lady. Nice tits. Solid massage and standard finish. I have a feeling more is on the table. I'd recommend.[/QUOTE]Hey guys, went back and while 3 girls are out front I keep getting the older ones. There is this one young gal in a while dress. Super cute, speaks english well. Anyone know who she is and what's on the menu? Any good? You can pm as well.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Chimonger;2965275]Hey guys, went back and while 3 girls are out front I keep getting the older ones. There is this one young gal in a while dress. Super cute, speaks english well. Anyone know who she is and what's on the menu? Any good? You can pm as well.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Usually only happy. The young cute one I know is ivy / josie. But she usually wears jeans without additional access. So I'm wondering if she changing her ways or if that's a newer / different girl.
Has anyone been with Tracy? She advertises a lot but recently her ads are more provocative.
[URL]http://illinois.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tracy-out-calls-only-call-now/38336775[/URL]
She's pregnant as I saw her fb. She looks hot but heard from other friends she is legit.
Just a tease. Would love to know if otherwise.
[QUOTE=Dwd1982;2966101]Has anyone been with Tracy? She advertises a lot but recently her ads are more provocative.
[URL]http://illinois.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tracy-out-calls-only-call-now/38336775[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras...So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage.[/QUOTE]I don't know if this would work in Chicago -- if I heard this and wanted a legitimate massage, I might be spooked off because of reverse psychology -- but once I wanted to find a totally legit massage parlor and was told over the phone that's all they did, so I felt comfortable going.
I worked in Center City Philadelphia for a while, where every third storefront is a blacked-out door and window with only a street number on the outside -- all of them Korean places, all FS 1st visit no questions asked. (The Chinese places would have a show of a reflexology chart and hours of operation posted in the front window, which while curtained was not blacked-out, and you'd have a solo stand-up shower and only a HE.).
About 8:30 one night, my back was starting to kill me. I knew it would be hard to get into the one Chinese place (there was usually only one in business at a time) at that hour as they closed at 10 pm, but if I did at least I'd get a strong workover on my back before the flip. No dice; they were booked solid. Not having any other ideas, I went to Yelp, and found a massage spa pretty much in the vice bullseye in Center City -- in fact, I recognized the street address as being one of the Korean places. But the Yelp comments made it seem like maybe this wasn't a place offering extras. Also, they closed at 10 pm, while all the FS places were 2 am or 4 am, so I figured, "what the hell. ".
I called and asked the lady who answered the phone, "I know it's late, but do you have any openings for a deep tissue massage tonight?" She said, "We don't do happy endings. " It sounded like she was about to hang up, and I blurted out, "perfect!" I don't know if her arm was in mid-swing to hang up, or she was taken aback by that, but after a pause she said, "OK, you can come in at 9 pm for a one hour deep tissue massage. Our address is X and we're on the 2nd floor. Not the 3rd floor. ".
I buzzed the front door's 2nd floor button (which said something like "legitimate massage" on it) -- it turns out the 3rd floor had the FS place -- said I had a 9 pm appointment, and went upstairs. A older Chinese lady was at the reception desk, asked me if I was {Garbonzo} and had just called, etc. She asked, "where is your pain?" I said, "neck, shoulders, small of the back, and the left glute and hamstring. " She said, "we don't do happy endings. " I said, "Good, I don't want that. " So I got put in a curtained room, had a great massage with a masseuse who wasn't afraid to really work the muscle (wait, that sounded wrong, I mean the actual knotted muscles), and worked on my glutes and thighs without any sensual hint.
The real way I could tell it wasn't an AMP? The Chinese lady who met me, who while older was thin and toned and obviously worked out; she was wearing some band t-shirt and slim-fit jeans that showed off her very nice ass, but were definitely street clothes. I don't know how to define it but she looked like the exact opposite of every MS I've ever seen in any Chinese MP.
Long story short -- instead of just posting those signs we all laugh at, maybe a verbal statement on the call &/ or at the desk? Not "we only do legitimate massages" because we'll all chuckle and nod at that, but "no happy endings" sends a very different message.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=ChockWow;2958275]I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said.[/QUOTE]One quick note -- talking with MTs (whom I see pretty often), it turns out that male MTs have a hard time in the industry. From what I've heard, the only reliable ways for a masseur to make a living wage are to work in Boystown and offer extras, or outside of gay neighborhoods, satisfy clients looking for discreet down-low pay-for-play M4 M action. (I'm not saying that all masseurs do this, or even that this is universally true; it's hearsay, but from multiple sources.).
Complicating it is that for legitimate massage seekers, (1) most guys won't want a masseur, only a masseuse, and (2) many women are more comfortable with a masseuse than a masseur, to the point where only a relatively low percentage of women will see a masseur.
I'm by no means a homophobe. "I have many gay friends, really", but I would rather not have a masseur. I've had a few and it's always been fine. It's not like I've spent the session wondering if I'm going to get felt up or anything. As a bonus, I've never had a problem getting a masseur to really dig into the muscle like I sometimes have masseuses afraid to do; however, on some gut level it's my least preferred option. (Plus I'm probably subconsciously afraid of a George Costanza "it moved"-type scenario.).
So if your friend can hire a masseur, that'd probably be generally good for sending the no extras message; but in addition to difficulty getting one, it might attract a separate group of unwanted clientele.
This place on Erie and Michigan always features hot but legit therapists. There's one girl that I saw there a couple of times a while ago that always had a "lustful" look in her eyes. She's a brunette, probably hispanic, curvy with an amazing ass, does anyone know her name?
And BTW, had anyone had any luck there?
Cheers.
Actually, my friend has a woman friend that has a Chinese guy friend. Apparently, he does foot massages. But I kind of agree. Anyway, many of the foot places have Chinese guys working. Thanks. Bob.
[QUOTE=Garbonzo;2967060]One quick note -- talking with MTs (whom I see pretty often), it turns out that male MTs have a hard time in the industry. From what I've heard, the only reliable ways for a masseur to make a living wage are to work in Boystown and offer extras, or outside of gay neighborhoods, satisfy clients looking for discreet down-low pay-for-play M4 M action. (I'm not saying that all masseurs do this, or even that this is universally true; it's hearsay, but from multiple sources.).
Complicating it is that for legitimate massage seekers, (1) most guys won't want a masseur, only a masseuse, and (2) many women are more comfortable with a masseuse than a masseur, to the point where only a relatively low percentage of women will see a masseur.
I'm by no means a homophobe. "I have many gay friends, really", but I would rather not have a masseur. I've had a few and it's always been fine. It's not like I've spent the session wondering if I'm going to get felt up or anything. As a bonus, I've never had a problem getting a masseur to really dig into the muscle like I sometimes have masseuses afraid to do; however, on some gut level it's my least preferred option. (Plus I'm probably subconsciously afraid of a George Costanza "it moved"-type scenario.).
So if your friend can hire a masseur, that'd probably be generally good for sending the no extras message; but in addition to difficulty getting one, it might attract a separate group of unwanted clientele.[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to say hello. Long time lurker but new member now. I mostly visit AMP's but some apt too. Will give some reports soon. Later.
I have seen Channie several times in the west suburbs. If you like them a little thick, she is your girl. Very nice and accommodating. She does sometimes have her little dog with her though. Good for the short session. Have fun.
[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/voluptuous-asian-get-a-taste-andgt-kinky-fun-call-now/37114332[/URL]
[QUOTE=Chimonger;2965275]Hey guys, went back and while 3 girls are out front I keep getting the older ones. There is this one young gal in a while dress. Super cute, speaks english well. Anyone know who she is and what's on the menu? Any good? You can pm as well.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is likely Jocelyn. I have seen her a few times; have done only HE with UTC but very nice and friendly.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2967427]Actually, my friend has a woman friend that has a Chinese guy friend. Apparently, he does foot massages. But I kind of agree. Anyway, many of the foot places have Chinese guys working. Thanks. Bob.[/QUOTE]I have experienced the same thing. In fact I just took my wife to a foot massage Spa in Indiana and she had a male therapists. Also all of the foot massage places I have been, the recliners are all in one open room. No where private for any funny business. Is your friend open to running a foot reflexology Spa instead of a body massage place? That may discourage the customer she is NOT looking for.
The places I'm looking at all offer foot massage in addition to body massage. But not foot massage only. Bob.
[QUOTE=E6671;2968188]I have experienced the same thing. In fact I just took my wife to a foot massage Spa in Indiana and she had a male therapists. Also all of the foot massage places I have been, the recliners are all in one open room. No where private for any funny business. Is your friend open to running a foot reflexology Spa instead of a body massage place? That may discourage the customer she is NOT looking for.[/QUOTE]
I am a northern suburban guy who has no idea about downtown mongering. Tomorrow I will have some time to kill near northwestern hospital and would like to kill that time on a massage table within walking distance of the hospital. Any recommendations would certainly be appreciated. PM me if you have a place. I would most likely walk around and go into the first spa I see but I think that method cuts my chances of a fun visit down to nil. Thank you.
I've seen Valerie three times. Very sweet, thin woman about roughly 40. Takes great care of herself. Excellent real massage, HE option only but it was very satisfying and roaming is allowed except puss. 150 for the hour. Clean, safe incall in upscale Chi neighborhood.
[URL]http://www.touchbyvenus.com/profile-masseuse/595/Valerie.html[/URL]
I was intrigued by this post.
[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/young-girls-full-body-massage50hr-foot-massage35hr/21647031[/URL]
I was really interested in the $60 foot / body one hour combo. I was hoping they would add a third service to the combo. I thought this was for Ruby Spa, but when I got there I realized it was for HQ massage, which was on the same block of Archer. I drew an older but cute and fit girl named Leilei or something like that. She had nice black hair and a cute smile.
The massage, both foot and body were excellent. I liked the idea of the combo because most foot massage places have this in an open room with a chair, so no chance of other services. With the body combo, it put me in a room with a closed door. The facility was clean and comfortable.
During the body massage, I began to massage her legs and got closer and closer to between them. She jerked away once, but did not move my hands. After 45-50 minutes of a wonderful massage she flipped me over and got closer and closer to my groin while I continued the assault up her legs. I was getting aroused and took my underwear off leaving me only in birthday suit with a towel, and I removed the towel. She then gave me a satisfactory release while I was rubbing her nipple. I gave her $40. She asked for more, they always do, but I told her I had to eat and she assented to the $40.00.
I would definitely repeat for the massage service alone. A nice looking lady with a good release make it a sure thing I will be back.
Had a dream about new king. Tip: YMMV they want self serve so I'll start and stop during and pretend I'm shy. Once they see that, they see their tip disappearing. They will likely then nego standard. -mongeralways.
[QUOTE=Rxgolf;2391656]Newbie here. Have gotten some really good info from the board and now have something to share. Had a dream about a Mirage on Pulaski.
Took a few times of calling to get this dream because I usually wait till last minute. Introduced to Natalie who is a very cute young white girl. Quoted 80/ hhr 100/ hr.
Went with hr for the "bargain". Did not require draping and was an ok massage. On flip options were given. Went with 60 he which was topless. Was kind of mechanical, with me roaming ass over her pants. Time may have actually gone a little over the hr.
She was very cute, a nice girl, but I think there is better value out there. May repeat but would not be 1st choice because of price. Will be sharing more with you guys and thanks again for all your help![/QUOTE]I have tried to set up appointments with Mirage twice, but ended up just wasting my time on both occasions. Would love to meet some of their talented young ladies if I had more time to wait around for them LOL. Not sure if they just got cold feet, because I didn't call far enough in advance or what?!
I went to Kings Spa today. It's located at 95th and Roberts Road in Chicago Ridge. I had an excellent experience there. The girl was really good looking with a very nice body. The massage lasted about an hour, with oil and she rubbed in all the right places. After awhile there was a little action but it was my first time there so not too much. I would go back and recommend it to anyone. No downsides really at all which is sort of a suprise. No table shower but I didn't miss it. Have fun!
I'm in the process of looking for an existing, or building a start-up, massage spa. Strictly legit, as a stake-hold for my friend. I've posted other related questions about running a legit spa.
So one of the important requirements, (as we've read recently) is bona-fide massage certificates for the owner / manager (at a minimum) and preferably for all employees. In some cites, all MTs must be licensed. In others, a non-licensed person can be there if there is a licensed manager on duty. I think this is correct.
I have also researched massage schools and found the price range to be about $7,300 (College of Lake County) $8,700 (Harper) to north of $11,000 at most private places. Not only is there the cost of tuition, but also the work-time lost while in class. I think about 600 clinical hours, plus passing the national exam. Also, these classes include a fair amount of anatomy, and are taught in English. I've heard there are schools in California (one quoted $3,100, as I spoke to him, and he teaches in Chinese, three month course). I can't be sure which of these programs is good, and which are bad. Or downright frauds.
I've heard the idea that a license is a waste of time. But lately with all the closures of spas for unlicensed spas, I'm finding owners of legit places getting very reluctant to hire unlicensed workers. And basically impossible to be the owner / manager without a license.
Finally the question: Does anybody know of decent schools that offer massage training? Hopefully taught in Chinese? I've heard of license "rentals" which I'm not sure about (since the name on the certificate would not match the "ID" of the person, not to mention it is fraudulent). I'm interested in any suggestions. While this is a matter of self interest, I would imagine there are a lot of people trying to get proper licenses these days. Thanks in advance. Bob.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2971749]I'm in the process of looking for an existing, or building a start-up, massage spa. Strictly legit, as a stake-hold for my friend. I've posted other related questions about running a legit spa.
So one of the important requirements, (as we've read recently) is bona-fide massage certificates for the owner / manager (at a minimum) and preferably for all employees. In some cites, all MTs must be licensed. In others, a non-licensed person can be there if there is a licensed manager on duty. I think this is correct.
I have also researched massage schools and found the price range to be about $7,300 (College of Lake County) $8,700 (Harper) to north of $11,000 at most private places. Not only is there the cost of tuition, but also the work-time lost while in class. I think about 600 clinical hours, plus passing the national exam. Also, these classes include a fair amount of anatomy, and are taught in English. I've heard there are schools in California (one quoted $3,100, as I spoke to him, and he teaches in Chinese, three month course). I can't be sure which of these programs is good, and which are bad. Or downright frauds.
I've heard the idea that a license is a waste of time. But lately with all the closures of spas for unlicensed spas, I'm finding owners of legit places getting very reluctant to hire unlicensed workers. And basically impossible to be the owner / manager without a license.
Finally the question: Does anybody know of decent schools that offer massage training? Hopefully taught in Chinese? I've heard of license "rentals" which I'm not sure about (since the name on the certificate would not match the "ID" of the person, not to mention it is fraudulent). I'm interested in any suggestions. While this is a matter of self interest, I would imagine there are a lot of people trying to get proper licenses these days. Thanks in advance. Bob.[/QUOTE]Maybe a Chinese massage program / school is the thing that you should open? .
In light of what has happened in St Charles over the last year I think spending the time and money to get a license is a good idea. I knew one lady that went to California for school and all she said was it was not cheap. I also know a lady who went to a school somewhere in Chicago, not sure of the exact location. I saw the practice exam questions and there was a lot of medical terminology. I think the 600 hours is correct.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2971749]I'm in the process of looking for an existing, or building a start-up, massage spa. Strictly legit, as a stake-hold for my friend. I've posted other related questions about running a legit spa.
So one of the important requirements, (as we've read recently) is bona-fide massage certificates for the owner / manager (at a minimum) and preferably for all employees. In some cites, all MTs must be licensed. In others, a non-licensed person can be there if there is a licensed manager on duty. I think this is correct.
I have also researched massage schools and found the price range to be about $7,300 (College of Lake County) $8,700 (Harper) to north of $11,000 at most private places. Not only is there the cost of tuition, but also the work-time lost while in class. I think about 600 clinical hours, plus passing the national exam. Also, these classes include a fair amount of anatomy, and are taught in English. I've heard there are schools in California (one quoted $3,100, as I spoke to him, and he teaches in Chinese, three month course). I can't be sure which of these programs is good, and which are bad. Or downright frauds.
I've heard the idea that a license is a waste of time. But lately with all the closures of spas for unlicensed spas, I'm finding owners of legit places getting very reluctant to hire unlicensed workers. And basically impossible to be the owner / manager without a license.
Finally the question: Does anybody know of decent schools that offer massage training? Hopefully taught in Chinese? I've heard of license "rentals" which I'm not sure about (since the name on the certificate would not match the "ID" of the person, not to mention it is fraudulent). I'm interested in any suggestions. While this is a matter of self interest, I would imagine there are a lot of people trying to get proper licenses these days. Thanks in advance. Bob.[/QUOTE]