[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d6309a6-b740-46cf-8693-7bd48d797fb7[/URL]
Dtf for 5. Her real pics aren't nearly as hot as the profile pics. I'll not sample.
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[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d6309a6-b740-46cf-8693-7bd48d797fb7[/URL]
Dtf for 5. Her real pics aren't nearly as hot as the profile pics. I'll not sample.
[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7320410]Eh, maybe not on Seeking but WYP is a different business model. To even meet a girl on WYP, you have to agree on a M&G fee. That's the business model. ADC has made great contributions to this board over the years. I defer to what works best for him.[/QUOTE]I would add that the criticisms of my posts (and my strategy) when I provide honest and reliable feedback is a disincentive to posting. I want this board to be useful, and prefer to read honest and helpful feedback, more than the continuous posts saying "my cock is so big it hurt her" or "if you pay more than $300 you are tool" or my personal (least) favorite comment "all of Seeking is full of scammers and pros. ".
My strategy works for me. There is a lost of waste / fraud on both WYP and Seeking. I spent $500 wading thru the WYP scammers / fakes / pros without any sex. I also spend $150 for credits. But the payoff is that I did find 2 perfect little sugar babies: One 19 and one 21 years old. If you are a real SD, that is a relatively small price to pay to find a good SB. I posted my failures so that others would not have to make the same mistakes. I hope it helps some guys out there.
[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7321877]I would add that the criticisms of my posts (and my strategy) when I provide honest and reliable feedback is a disincentive to posting. I want this board to be useful, and prefer to read honest and helpful feedback, more than the continuous posts saying "my cock is so big it hurt her" or "if you pay more than $300 you are tool" or my personal (least) favorite comment "all of Seeking is full of scammers and pros. ".
My strategy works for me. There is a lost of waste / fraud on both WYP and Seeking. I spent $500 wading thru the WYP scammers / fakes / pros without any sex. I also spend $150 for credits. But the payoff is that I did find 2 perfect little sugar babies: One 19 and one 21 years old. If you are a real SD, that is a relatively small price to pay to find a good SB. I posted my failures so that others would not have to make the same mistakes. I hope it helps some guys out there.[/QUOTE]Rereading your original post, I think the issue is you were not at all clear about what "success" was in your trials. You talk about meeting for a meal, then saying you discussed meeting for fun after, then mentioning giving the after date allowance and being ghosted. Not that we require the gory porn details of your interactions (though I appreciate them as I'm a fucking pervert), but it's a very real thing that your post read as "I met some chicks by offering them real money just to sit down with me. We talked about meeting later (to fuck). I gave them the allowance and they ghosted".
See the disconnect?
[QUOTE=TheYoungMonger;7320158]Got her to text and she quoted me $800. I passed. She claimed I agreed to it on the website. I did not. Long story short, she mixed up my convo with another person she had lined up. I'm guessing she is very high mileage. Borderline pro, probably. Claims she visits DC frequently from NYC for "work".[/QUOTE]Also claims that she's going to be running for office in New York as a Republican. I found her social media and a couple years ago she was a hard core Democrat. Total player.
[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7321877]I would add that the criticisms of my posts (and my strategy) when I provide honest and reliable feedback is a disincentive to posting. I want this board to be useful, and prefer to read honest and helpful feedback, more than the continuous posts saying "my cock is so big it hurt her" or "if you pay more than $300 you are tool" or my personal (least) favorite comment "all of Seeking is full of scammers and pros. ".
My strategy works for me. There is a lost of waste / fraud on both WYP and Seeking. I spent $500 wading thru the WYP scammers / fakes / pros without any sex. I also spend $150 for credits. But the payoff is that I did find 2 perfect little sugar babies: One 19 and one 21 years old. If you are a real SD, that is a relatively small price to pay to find a good SB. I posted my failures so that others would not have to make the same mistakes. I hope it helps some guys out there.[/QUOTE]You can try to gauge if a woman is open to an arrangement from any site but still get it wrong. She may be in it just to make a few bucks for dinner. She may be open to bang some guys but not others. If you think there's a chance it could pan out then go for it. But even if it doesn't convert, that's a common outcome. I just move on.
I've had my share of dates with attractive, interesting women that ghosted and I still enjoyed myself. Gave a gift, too. And they all said they wanted to meet again. That's just what someone says to avoid saying the opposite. I forget about the "swing and a miss" at bats. And never burn bridges. But that's because I've also had some that turned into awesome arrangements. It's a luck and numbers game. Always has been. And we all have different batting averages. But for all those strike outs there's still going to be the home runs that blow your mind.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6e2f0502-a3ee-40a5-9c89-3ef028004439[/URL]
Dtf. Didn't ask for anything. She can take a pounding.
[QUOTE=Bellissimo;7318528]She is playing the attractive, athletic, educated young white girl card and wants $1000 ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11de9732-cfc5-432c-af2a-f2663d6bfe29[/URL][/QUOTE]Those pics are heavily filtered. She sent other pics via text, skinny fat at best. Just another avg girl. She's a 500 girl because she's white.
[QUOTE=JonFisher;7301879]I indicated that I had a "wonderful time with her for many months". But these things have a shelf life.[/QUOTE]Neither of us seeing her anymore, but you can DM to "compare notes". Personally don't like public laundry.
Just got back on SA. Was able to upload Selfie, skip any profile pics, and pay for premium.
Sent 5 messages, and here is one:
Online.
1. Hot 26 yo, meet for lunch? Replied with yes, and her number. —- She never viewed my profile.
Burner.
1. Ever been an SB? Yes, a while ago, but it was different.
2. How so? Weekly allowance, and we meet twice a month.
3. What was allowance? 300 weekly. Sounds great to me.
4. Rather 1) do M&G and schedule intimate later with no allowance, 2) M&G and if all works, check-in to hotel? Option 2 taken.
5. Meet at Morton's, or hotel bar? Hotel bar.
6. 1 Pm good on xx? Yup.
7. Booked, no response.
8. One attempt at small talk, no response.
Not one question for me, didn't view my profile.
Possibly SA following guys me offline? I blocked her just in case, but date is on the books.
Thoughts?
Yuna.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76d744e2-070b-4039-8dd0-47d8f7b036e0[/URL]
Asked for cash app before meeting.
First offline text, meet tonight.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d2b66812-f153-4fc0-bcad-629fc2578995[/URL]
Same as last time. Likely FOS.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f54ef156-d7a9-44bd-9700-214d44f85ee4[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/68d95517-d025-4eb1-b981-57a84c18c2f6[/URL]
The first profile reached out to me. Seemingly dtf, has a profile on fet. The second profile appears to be an alternate, the bedroom pics between the two match up. Different ages, and tones between the two.
If it's not a case of stolen pics and it's actually the same person, what a weird waste of effort.
[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;7323368]Just got back on SA. Was able to upload Selfie, skip any profile pics, and pay for premium.
Sent 5 messages, and here is one:
Online.
1. Hot 26 yo, meet for lunch? Replied with yes, and her number. - She never viewed my profile.
Burner.
1. Ever been an SB? Yes, a while ago, but it was different.
2. How so? Weekly allowance, and we meet twice a month.
3. What was allowance? 300 weekly. Sounds great to me.
4. Rather 1) do M&G and schedule intimate later with no allowance, 2) M&G and if all works, check-in to hotel? Option 2 taken.
5. Meet at Morton's, or hotel bar? Hotel bar.
6. 1 Pm good on xx? Yup.
7. Booked, no response.
8. One attempt at small talk, no response.
Not one question for me, didn't view my profile.
Possibly SA following guys me offline? I blocked her just in case, but date is on the books.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Nevermind. She started communicating.
Maryland guy here and I'd love to find someone who I could give $300 per month and visit them at least 4 times per month. That would be only $75 per session! Then I would also see my other connections for some variety and that would be great for me- LOL.
My Sitch:
I'm paying about $130 per 30-minute session but it's only one nutt, (that's all I can do in a couple hours) but it's no strings attached. I also have at least 9 decent spots / people I can visit with 2 of those spots being Houses for lots of variety, bc they bring in 2 new girls each week. Last year I saw at least 25 different people, and 99% were in private spots. In Md.
My questions for your SD Gents?
1: Do the babes normally know your real name??
2: What's the avg you pay for a session, after the girl agrees to your terms?? And are the sessions overnight or at least a couple hours in length. Allowing for more than 1 pop?
3: How much are you paying per month for your SD Monger Model and how many nutts per month??
4: What's the avg you normally spend before you rope another girl into your web. For example, do you spend $1000 on avg, before finding another willing lady??
If you've been at the SD model long enough, you have developed averages for your sessions, monthly outlays and for acquisition of new talent, so please do tell, because I'm seriously interested in the SD model.
You can DM me if you like.
Thanks!!
SJ.
[QUOTE=SRH59;7322538]You can try to gauge if a woman is open to an arrangement from any site but still get it wrong. She may be in it just to make a few bucks for dinner. She may be open to bang some guys but not others. If you think there's a chance it could pan out then go for it. But even if it doesn't convert, that's a common outcome. I just move on.
I've had my share of dates with attractive, interesting women that ghosted and I still enjoyed myself. Gave a gift, too. And they all said they wanted to meet again. That's just what someone says to avoid saying the opposite. I forget about the "swing and a miss" at bats. And never burn bridges. But that's because I've also had some that turned into awesome arrangements. It's a luck and numbers game. Always has been. And we all have different batting averages. But for all those strike outs there's still going to be the home runs that blow your mind.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0019a26d-b4d1-427a-be67-1d00943346b0[/URL]
Ivyne's pics are unsurprisingly some twitter / OF "model".
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/505c9e07-2728-4166-aab2-002d9ea8c827[/URL]
Isabel looks ukrainian and speaks spanish. Moved to text off site and asked for 600.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e0025f52-67ef-47c4-be20-5aebb18080a4[/URL]
Her one and only message to me on seeking was her name and number. We texted a bit and she sent me a ton of pics. Seems to have huge tits for her frame that must be man made but with a relatively small waist. Looked just a little old in the face though. Passed on her at 500.
Julia.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/Wg3exO2bARjn9nqA1zGo4vyw[/URL]
A lesbian looking for free meals and cash. Waste of time.
Attractive.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/7GBPdRga0r93Wbm5Q2On6DwW[/URL]
This one is DTF for 500, but I couldn't get past her face,. Not attractive.
For those who don't know, SJ is a review legend on the escort side of things.
Sadly, SuperJimmy, unless you are extending your budget, you may be in the wrong arena. Membership on SA alone is going to cost you about a hundo at minimum.
As for your questions:
1. Only the ones I've really trusted and had long term things with (1 year+) have known my real name.
2. Right about now if you want to pull anything 6 and up, your minimum will be between 3-500. You're not even going to get a quickie for $130 like the LCS or ACS or Indy's you review. Plus you will usually have to cultivate a SB over a few days to a couple of weeks before getting laid. At that price point you can probably negotiate between 2-5 hours of fun time. Depends on your looks, approach, game and wallet.
3. Depends on the arrangement. Some guys give a SB an upfront monthly allowance for a set number of meets. Others do PPM (pay per meet). PPM amounts are as stated above. I have no idea what allowances are running nowadays but figure on 2500-ish for 3-4 meets a month to be the ballpark starting point.
4. I don't personally put a limit on this. I see who I like as long as the arrangement is fun and viable and she's willing. Besides, long term arrangements where familiarity and trust is built can yield great benefits (freebies, discounts, extended time and overnights with no upsell, etc.) SB's don't usually ask for monogamy, so add or subtract to your rotation at will according to your budget. A busy month for me is spending somewhere between 6-1000.
There aren't many established norms like on the escort and AMP side. You will have to wade thru flakes and fakes. Most SB's will have an idea of what they are worth and it will vary wildly. Just make sure you a. Never send money up front and b. Negotiate explicit details such as monetary amounts and acts that are permitted or to be performed off site via text / email. Otherwise you'll get your account banned.
[QUOTE=SuperJimmy;7323747]Maryland guy here and I'd love to find someone who I could give $300 per month and visit them at least 4 times per month. That would be only $75 per session! Then I would also see my other connections for some variety and that would be great for me- LOL.
My Sitch:
I'm paying about $130 per 30-minute session but it's only one nutt, (that's all I can do in a couple hours) but it's no strings attached. I also have at least 9 decent spots / people I can visit with 2 of those spots being Houses for lots of variety, bc they bring in 2 new girls each week. Last year I saw at least 25 different people, and 99% were in private spots. In Md.
My questions for your SD Gents?
1: Do the babes normally know your real name??
2: What's the avg you pay for a session, after the girl agrees to your terms?? And are the sessions overnight or at least a couple hours in length. Allowing for more than 1 pop?
3: How much are you paying per month for your SD Monger Model and how many nutts per month??
4: What's the avg you normally spend before you rope another girl into your web. For example, do you spend $1000 on avg, before finding another willing lady??
If you've been at the SD model long enough, you have developed averages for your sessions, monthly outlays and for acquisition of new talent, so please do tell, because I'm seriously interested in the SD model.
You can DM me if you like.
Thanks!!
SJ.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/67843c7a-1fc3-437d-b7e5-1517066b8193[/URL]
Moved to text offsite. Her ask is 1 k per meet.
After all those quality insights, I guess unless I come into a gigantic windfall, I'll have to stick to my current Monger Model. I simply cannot afford to be a sugar daddy.
But I do want some extra, super quality in my program and I am willing to pay for it. At least every now and then, so I will aggressively move forward with the acquisition of quality Black, White and Asians ladies and agencies. That do not require personal info.
Thanks Bob!
Happy Hunting!
SJ.
[QUOTE=BobDingle10;7324525]For those who don't know, SJ is a review legend on the escort side of things.
Sadly, SuperJimmy, unless you are extending your budget, you may be in the wrong arena. Membership on SA alone is going to cost you about a hundo at minimum.
As for your questions:
1. Only the ones I've really trusted and had long term things with (1 year+) have known my real name.
2. Right about now if you want to pull anything 6 and up, your minimum will be between 3-500. You're not even going to get a quickie for $130 like the LCS or ACS or Indy's you review. Plus you will usually have to cultivate a SB over a few days to a couple of weeks before getting laid. At that price point you can probably negotiate between 2-5 hours of fun time. Depends on your looks, approach, game and wallet.
3. Depends on the arrangement. Some guys give a SB an upfront monthly allowance for a set number of meets. Others do PPM (pay per meet). PPM amounts are as stated above. I have no idea what allowances are running nowadays but figure on 2500-ish for 3-4 meets a month to be the ballpark starting point..[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/12e14788-f4c0-408f-974a-0da88a4addaf[/URL]
Come now. I bang hotter sisters than thos for 300.
Which idiot gave her $75 for Uber than treat her to lunch at El presidents and then a $400 m&g.
Are people this thirsty for average girls.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7323826][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0019a26d-b4d1-427a-be67-1d00943346b0[/URL]
Ivyne's pics are unsurprisingly some twitter / OF "model".[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7034c4ad-bd95-4b15-9f71-796f3380a998[/URL]
Same (uncommon) name, different girl had an account in the DC area. Now she has a new account in Boston. Too hot to be real. Beware.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7325120][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/12e14788-f4c0-408f-974a-0da88a4addaf[/URL]
Come now. I bang hotter sisters than thos for 300.
Which idiot gave her $75 for Uber than treat her to lunch at El presidents and then a $400 m&g.
Are people this thirsty for average girls.[/QUOTE]Or she made it up.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7325670]Or she made it up.[/QUOTE]She sent screen shots of her texts. I was like WTF.
Daria.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d7d1f86-5937-46ae-8a2e-2c4ccab93818[/URL]
Looks like a former of my SBs is back on Seeking. She's not a thin college chic, but she's she's enjoyable company, educated, got a huge rack, and is a freak in bed. 500, covered sex, enjoys anal (YMMV). I guess she's no longer seeing her civilian bf.
Anyone hit up these chicks? Or bang them?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c84646bd-dc7a-4ae4-9836-0e818491f4e4[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/61dd38db-28e0-4005-8e5d-1c5cd1d1a7da[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/85333810-04cc-443c-9f62-b7ef6d0ce117[/URL]
On seeking, what payment methods work now? Blackhawk doesn't seem to work.
[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7319635]Here are a few WhatsYourPrice updates to save people time / money:
Sara:
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/mz6PW1dL0kOb84d0qEbwMDy8[/URL]
Met of lunch for $100. Very cute, and she seemed very engaged. Agreed to meet up for fun later. AFter the date, I provided her date allowance and she ghosted me. I heard from others this is her part-time job.
Tae.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/mz6PW1dL0kOb84d0qEbwMDy8[/URL]
DTF for $1000. I passed.
Bridget.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/98LnkZl60q94b6e0jzarbyYv[/URL]
Met for lunch for $100. Very cute, and she seemed very engaged. Agreed to meet up for fun later. AFter the date, I provided her date allowance. She said she would love to meet up again, but was uncomfortable with anything physical, even holding hands or a small kiss. I passed.
Chloey.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/GYKE1OV6AGxV9Y2JvMpL9rdB[/URL]
Wants $1000 to meet. But then claims "she is not a who_e".
JuliaandKristine.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/kdP3xDaYAyk4eeZ5Z2m9BjLE[/URL]
Claimed to be a couple. I met one for lunch. $200. Very attractive. After the date, I provided her date allowance and she ghosted me. I heard from others this is her part-time job.
Cassy.
(no not have link, but a 21 year old Asian girl in Rockville).
Met of lunch for $100. A little cute but extremely self-absorbed. She pretended to be very interested when we met. Agreed to meet up for fun later. After the date, I provided her date allowance and she ghosted me. I was fine with her ghosting me.
As you can see, that is $500 for unsuccessful dates. However, did manage to meet 2 successful dates, so it averages out.[/QUOTE]So let me get this straight. I haven't used wyp but I've been seeing it a lot more lately. So you pay to message these ladies, then agree to only a meet and greet price? Sounds like a very effective way to get rinsed. Why are we using this site again?
Online only, blah.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/56fa0460-1772-4018-a015-c2ea4f013aee[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bugs2455;7315998]Did SA really remove the body type filter? I heard they have weight filters now but am not seeing it.[/QUOTE]I also just realized that they removed the Relationship Status filter as well. So if you want to avoid married women you no longer have the option to filter that out. Then I checked to see if my relationship status was still there in my profile, and it is and I don't have the option to remove it. Kinda fucked up.
The title says it all.
Vanessa0933 - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/118e03e6-e653-4a58-b2cc-a96787db3b3a[/URL].
An older report indicated she's a scammer. I'd been texting her for ages. Despite poor coms, pursued a M&G. She never showed.
Gianna - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7d7e8916-9c08-48fa-a7bc-037fd926cc89[/URL].
Great texting game, but never showed for the M&G.
As always, YMMV.
Just an FYI.
Checked into my favorite DayUse property (Marriott) last week for some FC action. Walked up to the Registration Desk, told the clerk I had a DayUse reservation whereupon she greeted me by name. WTF? So, I asked how they knew my name. Desk clerk responded I was the only DayUse reservation that day. She further went on to say her hotel will accept up to 5 Day Use reservations per day. She also said if their DayUse allotment is fully booked, they will accept walk-up customers at the DayUse rate.
My takeaway. If a known DayUse property shows no availabilty on the DayUse app, it may makes sense to call to see if they'll honor the DayUse rate.
[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7330532]Just an FYI.
Checked into my favorite DayUse property (Marriott) last week for some FC action. Walked up to the Registration Desk, told the clerk I had a DayUse reservation whereupon she greeted me by name. WTF? So, I asked how they knew my name. Desk clerk responded I was the only DayUse reservation that day. She further went on to say her hotel will accept up to 5 Day Use reservations per day. She also said if their DayUse allotment is fully booked, they will accept walk-up customers at the DayUse rate.
My takeaway. If a known DayUse property shows no availabilty on the DayUse app, it may makes sense to call to see if they'll honor the DayUse rate.[/QUOTE]Another tip. Always check your email the day of. They emailed me a cancellation of confirmed reservation once. Created a big problem for me that day.
Had a m&g. Good looking chick; kind of a bore, but looks like pics. Wants 800, I almost LOL'd in her face; but for those of you that want to, she is real and easy to set up a date!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30bb7ffe-65db-43b2-b6da-980562e8de50[/URL]
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7331102]Had a m&g. Good looking chick; kind of a bore, but looks like pics. Wants 800, I almost LOL'd in her face; but for those of you that want to, she is real and easy to set up a date!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30bb7ffe-65db-43b2-b6da-980562e8de50[/URL][/QUOTE]It baffles my mind those of you that don't discuss the specific details first before you agree to meet. Who has that kind of time to waste?
Long chats about meeting, but ghosts on actually meeting.
There are multiple reports from another city here for same profile and behavior. Different profile name, but same profile link.
DMA.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7652fb14-e27c-470e-bdde-3b8113bff21d[/URL]
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7331102]Had a m&g. Good looking chick; kind of a bore, but looks like pics. Wants 800, I almost LOL'd in her face; but for those of you that want to, she is real and easy to set up a date!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30bb7ffe-65db-43b2-b6da-980562e8de50[/URL][/QUOTE]It all depends on context. I M&G a petite, slender, smart latina. She was very new to sugaring and just had no clue. Nervous as a cat too. So when I asked the?, she did say 800 was what she was hoping for. I could tell that I wasn't going to be able to go right to FC w / her, though, because she was so nervous. We parted on good terms, I texted w / her some, and we met for coffee another time. Nice detailed convos about a lot of sexual matters, but she would still not sit in my car for 'discreet' discussion of the arrangement. I wrote her off. But she continued to text. We had a phone call and I finally covered allowance. I told her my limits and the reason for them (SO), and offered her 450 for the first meet (to be sure she was happy w / all aspects), and 350 for meets after that. She agreed and she had her first 'arrangement' experience w / me. She was pretty good, not strong on kissing, but overall both had a good time.
She texted me after, somewhat to my surprise, because she wasn't into the kissing I figured she just saw me as an old guy. She denied that and said she just wasn't that skilled. And she wanted to meet again. However, she wanted 400. Because the sex was just OK, and it went against the 'deal' I offered her, I didn't see it as worth it and didn't reply.
Wants $900 to meet. Asks a lot of compromising questions on the site. Will likely get banned soon. Didn't meet. YMMV.
Desire.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b6efa844-81f2-4678-8319-4b3aa1a61def[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dimples572;7331213]It baffles my mind those of you that don't discuss the specific details first before you agree to meet. Who has that kind of time to waste?[/QUOTE]And many times my lower offer works better in person for various reasons. Yes, I've had my share of m&g's that didn't lead to FC, mostly b / c girl didn't look like pics or was heavier, but also b / c couldn't negotiate an agreeable ppm. Waste of about 1 hour and $40 in drinks, so no biggie. You do you though!
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7331464]And many times my lower offer works better in person for various reasons. Yes, I've had my share of m&g's that didn't lead to FC, mostly b / c girl didn't look like pics or was heavier, but also b / c couldn't negotiate an agreeable ppm. Waste of about 1 hour and $40 in drinks, so no biggie. You do you though![/QUOTE]And that range depends on when I can see the girl.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7331308]It all depends on context. I M&G a petite, slender, smart latina. She was very new to sugaring and just had no clue. Nervous as a cat too. So when I asked the?, she did say 800 was what she was hoping for. I could tell that I wasn't going to be able to go right to FC w / her, though, because she was so nervous. We parted on good terms, I texted w / her some, and we met for coffee another time. Nice detailed convos about a lot of sexual matters, but she would still not sit in my car for 'discreet' discussion of the arrangement. I wrote her off. But she continued to text. We had a phone call and I finally covered allowance. I told her my limits and the reason for them (SO), and offered her 450 for the first meet (to be sure she was happy w / all aspects), and 350 for meets after that. She agreed and she had her first 'arrangement' experience w / me. She was pretty good, not strong on kissing, but overall both had a good time.
She texted me after, somewhat to my surprise, because she wasn't into the kissing I figured she just saw me as an old guy. She denied that and said she just wasn't that skilled. And she wanted to meet again. However, she wanted 400. Because the sex was just OK, and it went against the 'deal' I offered her, I didn't see it as worth it and didn't reply.[/QUOTE]At dimples hmu for some next level tips on the game. No one approach works the best for all and for each girl. Need to keep adapting and be nimble. That's why this board is so good, you get to no only learn in advance about some, but you also get to learn new approaches, lines, game for others!