Safe Sex Information and Advice

Welcome to the dark side, bro. Even a girl you meet randomly can give you germs. Appetite for risk will determine your next step.

Cover doesn't prevent transmission either just makes it safer. Like a seatbelt, it can save lives but not always. No guarantees except death and Hawaii people voting for same dumbs shits, LOL.

You in or you out? Up to you.

[QUOTE=YoursTruly808;6119088]I'm new to all this but so far have been to 2 providers.

My question is how are people confident that the provider does not have STD?

So far the ones I been to I opted for just HJ and BJ with condom. I'm afraid to kiss their mouth and other lips because I don't know if it's safe. How do I know? Or how do I tell?

Is it just look at the area and if it looks clean then its good to go?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Faceious2;6088736]To be in on that list if there happens to be one. I can exchange some as well.[/QUOTE]Help me understand and I genuinely want to know. Everybody had rather not use protection, but are you not worried about STD's, mainly ones that can kill you, like HIV?

[QUOTE=BrooklynMatt;6098072]Thanks for the review. I spoke to her and almost pulled the trigger but something gave me the feeling rough living might be a factor here and the undisclosed period would have been a disappointment. I'm glad I held off in that case.[/QUOTE]Circling back on this. I'm free and clear via full panel test since seeing her (two days ago). So moral of the story is it's all a roll of the dice, but sometimes you get lucky.

[QUOTE=MrShiz;6130806]Circling back on this. I'm free and clear via full panel test since seeing her (two days ago). So moral of the story is it's all a roll of the dice, but sometimes you get lucky.[/QUOTE]HIV won't be detectable for a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Theme888;6131078]HIV won't be detectable for a few weeks.[/QUOTE]As someone working in healthcare, I'm not going to get into a debate about the chances of contracting HIV through vaginal sex but you can look into it yourself and see that menstruation does not marginally increase those chances.

[QUOTE=Theme888;6131078]HIV won't be detectable for a few weeks.[/QUOTE]His test was two days ago. His saw her a few weeks ago.

[QUOTE=MrShiz;6131840]As someone working in healthcare, I'm not going to get into a debate about the chances of contracting HIV through vaginal sex but you can look into it yourself and see that menstruation does not marginally increase those chances.[/QUOTE]Are you saying she has it?

[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;6132895]Are you saying she has it?[/QUOTE]They're not saying she has it. They're simply saying that mensturation or blood or bodily fluid exchange when there are sores or cuts or a somewhat compromised area of skin comes into contact with blood or mensturation in this case it isn't a small increase in chances of transmission it's much much higher.

Plus with some of the guys here going bare with questionable and high volume providers that may or may not be posted here just in the nyc bbfs forum if you’re not on Prep I highly recommend you find a way to be on it so you minimize your chances of getting it.

[QUOTE=Saenxx;6132940]They're not saying she has it. They're simply saying that mensturation or blood or bodily fluid exchange when there are sores or cuts or a somewhat compromised area of skin comes into contact with blood or mensturation in this case it isn't a small increase in chances of transmission it's much much higher.

Plus with some of the guys here going bare with questionable and high volume providers that may or may not be posted here just in the nyc bbfs forum if youre not on Prep I highly recommend you find a way to be on it so you minimize your chances of getting it.[/QUOTE]Surprised I don't' get the more easily transmitted STIs, considering we're all big transmission vectors even with testing.

[QUOTE=MrShiz;6130806]Circling back on this. I'm free and clear via full panel test since seeing her (two days ago). So moral of the story is it's all a roll of the dice, but sometimes you get lucky.[/QUOTE]HIV and many other STDs takes longer than 48 hours to show up as positive on a test. Hopefully you are at least taking PEP and get tested again in a month if you feel you got exposed to HIV from a provider.

I have been offered some BB fun, I always worry about catching something. For those mongers who go BB, how much do you worry, and avoid the transmission?

[QUOTE=Ralf511;6155649]I have been offered some BB fun, I always worry about catching something. For those mongers who go BB, how much do you worry, and avoid the transmission?[/QUOTE]Well, it takes one girl to get infected and there is no way to prevent it beside wearing a condom, dental dam for oral sex and no kissing (HSV-1). There is PrEP to prevent an HIV infection and a possible cure in the future ([URL]https://bit.ly/3EiugRy[/URL] ,The London Patient & The Berlin Patient).

But there is no cure or vaccine (prevention) for HSV-2 and genital warts. Once a person get those two, that's it. They have to live with that disease all their life and no sex for them unless they inform the other individuals. It is a misdemeanor offense to knowingly expose someone else to a contagious disease or infection.

In brief, you know the answer to your question. You should definitely worry about catching something and the only way to stop worrying is to wear a condom throughout the blowjob and penetration, LOL.

And since contact with a high risk population (hookers) can lead to infections, I would advise to abstain from sex until marriage.

P. S: [B]Here is a list of std you can catch through BBBJ[/B] if you truly care about your health:

-Gonorrhoea.

-Genital herpes (no cure).

-Syphilis.

-Human papillomavirus (no cure).

[QUOTE=Kelso111;6156582]Well, it takes one girl to get infected and there is no way to prevent it beside wearing a condom, dental dam for oral sex and no kissing (HSV-1). There is PrEP to prevent an HIV infection and a possible cure in the future ([URL]https://bit.ly/3EiugRy[/URL] ,The London Patient & The Berlin Patient).

But there is no cure or vaccine (prevention) for HSV-2 and genital warts. Once a person get those two, that's it. They have to live with that disease all their life and no sex for them unless they inform the other individuals. It is a misdemeanor offense to knowingly expose someone else to a contagious disease or infection.

In brief, you know the answer to your question. You should definitely worry about catching something and the only way to stop worrying is to wear a condom throughout the blowjob and penetration, LOL.

And since contact with a high risk population (hookers) can lead to infections, I would advise to abstain from sex until marriage.

P. S: [B]Here is a list of std you can catch through BBBJ[/B] if you truly care about your health:

-Gonorrhoea.

-Genital herpes (no cure).

-Syphilis.

-Human papillomavirus (no cure).[/QUOTE]LMAO.

So, the reasons listed above? That's why I, and many other bb enthusiasts, do it. The risk makes is insanely hot. If you're asking and sounding tentative about it, then this isn't for you.

Nothing wrong with that, BTW- not a knock on you. To each his own, man! Lots of covered-only girls who share your opinion, and lots of bb-only girls who share mine. Plenty to go around for all our desires.

[QUOTE=John2375;6158836]LMAO.

So, the reasons listed above? That's why I, and many other bb enthusiasts, do it. The risk makes is insanely hot. If you're asking and sounding tentative about it, then this isn't for you.

Nothing wrong with that, BTW- not a knock on you. To each his own, man! Lots of covered-only girls who share your opinion, and lots of bb-only girls who share mine. Plenty to go around for all our desires.[/QUOTE]LOL, I was responding to a guy who likes to play it "safe" and was offered some BB fun but refused for fear of getting an STD. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy that you can get an incurable STI through BBBJ. Those who likes to admonish the practice of unsafe sex never say no to BBBJ and I think that it is stupid since you can get herpes and HPV through a BBBJ.

Where is a good place to get tested and screened. I don't want to go to my family doctor or use my insurance if possible.

Is there a super discreet yet thorough way of getting std tests?

Heard a new term today. Stealthing. When you remove the condom without your partner's consent. By the way, girls do this to guys too you know!

[URL]https://twitter.com/MattBro71514269/status/1581636501842329600[/URL]

In case you were curious, STD Rate means the same for any of these ladies working the streets, aka how much are you willing to pay for a sexual transmitted disease? Lmao.

Anyone have any references for the risk of DATY on a provider? I always feel like I should avoid it but often cannot help myself.

I had them take the pregnancy test in front of me to confirm that they are pregnant. Gave them half the cost to get the abortion pill. I continue to see them and can confirm that the last resort pill work. Then I will cover the 2nd half of the abortion pill. About to have my 2nd SB I impregnated do another pregnancy test. Got to make sure she took the last resort pill. I still see my ex-SB 1-2 times a year when she wants to visit the DC area. Always a little extra special to creampie a girl that you impregnate in the past.

The last resort pill save me twice.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;6188932]Damn, so you got two kids with your SBs?

I got to regular SBs that are on IUD, so I think I am pretty safe giving them creampies.

But this other newer SB is not on BC, so I got to get her the Plan B pills. Got to tell her not to release them eggs on days that I am giving her creampies LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;6189727]I had them take the pregnancy test in front of me to confirm that they are pregnant. Gave them half the cost to get the abortion pill. I continue to see them and can confirm that the last resort pill work. Then I will cover the 2nd half of the abortion pill. About to have my 2nd SB I impregnated do another pregnancy test. Got to make sure she took the last resort pill. I still see my ex-SB 1-2 times a year when she wants to visit the DC area. Always a little extra special to creampie a girl that you impregnate in the past.

The last resort pill save me twice.[/QUOTE]This question is for all seniors. I see lots of chatter here about going bare back, no condoms, and CIP. Are you guys not afraid of STDs or other diseases? You will never know how many other guys the SB is having fun with. Just curious.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;6189727]I had them take the pregnancy test in front of me to confirm that they are pregnant. Gave them half the cost to get the abortion pill. I continue to see them and can confirm that the last resort pill work. Then I will cover the 2nd half of the abortion pill. About to have my 2nd SB I impregnated do another pregnancy test. Got to make sure she took the last resort pill. I still see my ex-SB 1-2 times a year when she wants to visit the DC area. Always a little extra special to creampie a girl that you impregnate in the past.

The last resort pill save me twice.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that worked out well.

What is the pill call? Do you need prescription to get it?

[QUOTE=Joe1278;6190398]This question is for all seniors. I see lots of chatter here about going bare back, no condoms, and CIP. Are you guys not afraid of STDs or other diseases? You will never know how many other guys the SB is having fun with. Just curious.[/QUOTE]Thse things do happen. Get tested.

I get a STD test once a month at [URL]www.stdcheck.com[/URL]. It's a risk that we all have to decide if it is worth it or not to play the game. I will take a baby before any STD. I'm starting to slow down too. I want to focus on normal relationships, so I been cutting down my rotation. My current SB who just took the last resort pill, was seriously considering to keep it if I was willing be with her. She too childish and I can't see myself with her for the long term. I'm 20 plus years older then her too. Just hard to stop when there are always new college age girls on SA.

[QUOTE=Joe1278;6190398]This question is for all seniors. I see lots of chatter here about going bare back, no condoms, and CIP. Are you guys not afraid of STDs or other diseases? You will never know how many other guys the SB is having fun with. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

Of course there is risk, but I try to limit by selecting my pool of SBs to be those less likely to be high volume when BB and even if they see others see if the profile of other guys they see are likely to be low risk guys, that's the thing. She may be fucking other guys, but at least have some confidence she isn't fucking high risk guys. You'll never know, it's a crapshoot. I had at least on SB tell me she got infected by a guy she was seeing in the past and that's when she stopped seeing him, then I found out it was someone from here who saw her a year before and his narrative was different.

[QUOTE=Joe1278;6190398]This question is for all seniors. I see lots of chatter here about going bare back, no condoms, and CIP. Are you guys not afraid of STDs or other diseases? You will never know how many other guys the SB is having fun with. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BDM1227;6190579]Thse things do happen. Get tested.[/QUOTE]For the married guys here are two options that you can use a fake name with and don't need to show an ID. [URL]Stdcheck.com[/URL] is a paid service that uses real quest or LabCorp locations for testing. Cost is about $100. Another option that's free and local is the Whitman-Walker Health at 1525 on 14th St NW in DC near Dupont Circle. You can book with a fake name and address. Neither requires showing an ID or insurance information. Both have online portals where your results are provided. WW will provide treatment free if indicated. On stdcheck they do have an option to do an online medical appointment if you test positive. No experience with those options for either as I have never tested positive.

Don't use protection of your identity as an excuse not to get tested. Use one of the options mentioned above.

Both my SBs had to get a doctor's prescription. 1st SB got it through plan Parenthood. 2nd SB doctor required them to get a ultrasound 1st. She when through her insurance. It's 2 pills that they need to taken. Both my SBs described it as a little worst then a heavy menstrual cycle. Depending on the state some even will sent the doctor's prescription by mail. Google medical abortion for more details.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;6190571]Glad to hear that worked out well.

What is the pill call? Do you need prescription to get it?[/QUOTE]

I don't disparage anyone for their preferences or lifestyle. Especially on this site, as we all are looking for a variety of the same objective. My biggest concern with the STD thing is the lack of concern or knowledge about the spread, specifically HIV and Herpes II. I know a few guys and girls that have it and the scary part is that these people can (and have) lived with it without knowing it because they were asymptomatic. No there's no guarantee you will pass it on each time you have sex but passing it unknowingly is still passing it. Studies say 15% to 20% of the population carry herpes.

But it could be as much as 25% because of the asymptomatic or dormant presence, which no one would feel the need to get tested. So if we could confirmed one out every four guys that banged a girl bare has herpes, or even one out of every 10 guys, it's only a matter of time. Hell that's one day at work for a lot of the AMPs and Asian agencies. Believe me I never want to hear another word about asymptomatic spread and virtue shaming people for "exposing" others after the corona horse shit. But there are some similarities and, although may not as deadly, does stay with people the rest of their life. Some without doing anything wrong but have unprotected sex with a loved one.

Ok, lecture over. Now back to paying girls to bang me.

[QUOTE=HarryPlopper;6205799]Pretty lucky over 25 years of mongering with 40% percent of my engagements are bare. I am starting to think that the government just wants us to wrap up due to population control not because STD are a HUGE percentage risk. That being said. You do you. YOLO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;6206714]I don't disparage anyone for their preferences or lifestyle. Especially on this site, as we all are looking for a variety of the same objective. My biggest concern with the STD thing is the lack of concern or knowledge about the spread, specifically HIV and Herpes II. I know a few guys and girls that have it and the scary part is that these people can (and have) lived with it without knowing it because they were asymptomatic. No there's no guarantee you will pass it on each time you have sex but passing it unknowingly is still passing it. Studies say 15% to 20% of the population carry herpes.

But it could be as much as 25% because of the asymptomatic or dormant presence, which no one would feel the need to get tested. So if we could confirmed one out every four guys that banged a girl bare has herpes, or even one out of every 10 guys, it's only a matter of time. Hell that's one day at work for a lot of the AMPs and Asian agencies. Believe me I never want to hear another word about asymptomatic spread and virtue shaming people for "exposing" others after the corona horse shit. But there are some similarities and, although may not as deadly, does stay with people the rest of their life. Some without doing anything wrong but have unprotected sex with a loved one.

Ok, lecture over. Now back to paying girls to bang me.[/QUOTE]I'm always of the belief that humans and our predecessors have been barebacking for hundreds of thousands of years. Yes, the women we're seeing are banging above average amounts of dudes, but they are healthy and wake up the next day and repeat the process as the day before without issues.

Unless an AIDS type disease breaks out, I'm OK raw dogging.

I'm not new to the game but I tend to just go for HE for various. However as I happen to be in the Phoenix market for the moment I've been wondering.

How likely are you to catch anything from her mouth on various parts of your body?

I know mono is common from kissing but I believe it's not infectious when dormant, and it goes dormant after the first infection. These girls must all have had it so it's probably not much of a risk?

As for receiving oral, google says you can get all kinds of things but I'm wondering how common that is? I know you can get HIV from oral for example, but it's extremely rare.

I have Googled this already but the information tends to be a bit vague on probabilities.

For example apparently you can catch just about anything from receiving oral if the circumstances are just right (sore in her mouth, cut on your glans, etc).

I'm wondering in more practical terms, how likely are you to catch something from the title acts, and what might you catch? I guess add covered full service too.

Sorry if this is the wrong sub-forum, not really sure where to post it.

[QUOTE=AssHat;6216951]I have Googled this already but the information tends to be a bit vague on probabilities.

For example apparently you can catch just about anything from receiving oral if the circumstances are just right (sore in her mouth, cut on your glans, etc).

I'm wondering in more practical terms, how likely are you to catch something from the title acts, and what might you catch? I guess add covered full service too.

Sorry if this is the wrong sub-forum, not really sure where to post it.[/QUOTE]No one can tell reliably tell you the risk of catching something from those activities. The best rule of thumb is to assume that all working girls have something and you can roll the dice from there. You can catch chlamydia / gonorrhea from BBBJ fairly easily. Of course, HSV1 is a risk of DFK and I've even heard there's a small risk that syphilis can be caught from DFK but not sure how true that is. You'll have to taylor your activities to your level of risk tolerance.

Saw action on this thread so thought I'd toss in my. 03 - If a provider does BBBJ, I have already been exposed to whatever, so BBFS is not Adding risk of std. The ones that do BBBJ and then want a cover for health reasons are ignorant on how std are spread, or lacking birth control, or perhaps they feel like less of a prostitute, by saying No, more in control. Also I get a chuckle when girls will BBBJ and not kiss because that's too personal. And that's my. 03. Happy mongering.

This is true. There are a lot of providers that will do BBBJ or BBBJCIM bc they think it's GFE or standard but when it's time for the main event, make you slap on a rubber. The risks are not that much different at that point. Maybe they feel better about themselves. Also, maybe they aren't on birth control, so it's a prevention method.

I don't always have to have BBFS but if a provider is not willing to give me a BBBJ then the hell with them. That's a bare minimum for me these days.

Lastly, for BBFS it's much better if you make the provider think it was her idea meaning you're passionate and in the heat of the moment rather than just asking for it outright. I also try to look for providers that allow Stripper Slides bc more often than not, they'll allow BBFS if you treat them right.

Cheers,

Robert.

[QUOTE=Cruiser45;6240578]Saw action on this thread so thought I'd toss in my. 03 - If a provider does BBBJ, I have already been exposed to whatever, so BBFS is not Adding risk of std. The ones that do BBBJ and then want a cover for health reasons are ignorant on how std are spread, or lacking birth control, or perhaps they feel like less of a prostitute, by saying No, more in control. Also I get a chuckle when girls will BBBJ and not kiss because that's too personal. And that's my. 03. Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if this was brought up but my biggest concern is the number of guys who are bi and participate in BBFS. Too often, I have seen reviews of guys who have had BBFS with providers and then have the same kind of session with a TS provider. It is a statical fact that transmission rates of a number of STD / STI's are easily transmitted through the anus. I am not sure how anyone can justify being that reckless.

Also please keep in mind, this is not about sexual preference. This is about transmission rates in MF sexual encounters vs MM sexual encounters.

[QUOTE=Goinchad;5407853]Has anyone ever got head and ended up with an std? I haven't just asking for my own piece of mind.[/QUOTE]Yea a ***** gave me herps from a bbj about a year ago, I know exactly who cause hadn't been engaged in any FS for a min and she was only to me bbj material not totally hideous but when first met slightly bigger than advertised, but some bigger chicks can give killer head, she a bunch of cheap tattoos and overall not my cup of tea, but since she made the meet up I figured BBJ couldn't hurt (so little I knew) least something for her troubles, no signs of anything except them damn tats, week later I experienced a pain people would refer to as an earache or toothache, hurt to sit, stand walk etc and not pleasant in the least and a lot more common than I thought but, I hate CBJ but if I knew the burning ungodly pain I was was going to endure a wrap would've been a god send!

[QUOTE=BigTruckBob;6261527]I was on the hunt one morning and I came across a stunningly beautiful woman who was trying to get a ride. I took her to her apartment near Park heights where she lived with her daughter. We exchanged numbers and for weeks we talked on the phone like teenagers. She told me that she wanted me to give her a son, and that she was going to ride me until I came inside of her. I was so close to banging her, and I might have done something stupid like going raw considering how sexy she was. The night I was suppose to see her she revealed that she had bedbugs, so I canceled going to her place. She couldn't get a sitter, so we made plans to see each other that weekend. The next day she called me and was very upset, the apartment's two maintenance guys wouldn't treat her apartment unless she fucked them. She said she once dated a different maintenance guy when she needed work done to her apartment, and now they were all trying to run through her whenever she needed a repair. She asked me for help with getting the apartment complex to resolved the bug issue. While calling around trying to help her, I found out the apartments were special HUD units, housing people that were infected with HIV. When I confronted her she confessed she had it, and gave me a BS excuse that she was going to tell me before we had sex. I cut her off promptly, but what perplexes me is why were the maintenance guys still trying to fuck her when they knew she had HIV. I feel like that situation was God's intervention at its finest. Not only did he save me, but he showed me what he saved me from.[/QUOTE]Didn't know they had housing specifically for people with hiv, hmmm.

[QUOTE=Moraxus;6261942]Didn't know they had housing specifically for people with hiv, hmmm.[/QUOTE]Just because you don't know something it doesn't make it untrue. I am joking, I didn't know about it either until I encountered that woman. Yes, there are housing programs and apartments specifically for people with HIV / AIDS. Some are operated by private landlords, and instead of getting $1200 a month for a typical section 8 tenant, they would rent their entire buildings to people with HIV exclusively and get $1600 per one bedroom unit.

[QUOTE=BigTruckBob;6262216]Just because you don't know something it doesn't make it untrue. I am joking, I didn't know about it either until I encountered that woman. Yes, there are housing programs and apartments specifically for people with HIV / AIDS. Some are operated by private landlords, and instead of getting $1200 a month for a typical section 8 tenant, they would rent their entire buildings to people with HIV exclusively and get $1600 per one bedroom unit.[/QUOTE]Juz like COVID some folks have immunity to STDs merely by birth and healthy lifestyle. As always if you don't take care of yourself you will get burned.

Just curious, but how often do you guys get checked, and any info on how often shop girls get checked? I'm asking cause I've only indulged a few times, everything covered but I do still hook up with other girls. Obviously both are risks but I try to manage it as best I can.

[QUOTE=TheSpaceGuy;6277994]Just curious, but how often do you guys get checked, and any info on how often shop girls get checked? I'm asking cause I've only indulged a few times, everything covered but I do still hook up with other girls. Obviously both are risks but I try to manage it as best I can.[/QUOTE]Recommend going to your local health department. They probably often do free testing or is pretty cheap for a full panel. If they ask you how much you make, make sure you low ball it. They give you a link where you can sign up and check your results when they come in (usually 3-5 days). Apparently guys only show symptoms about 50% of the time for chlam / gono so I recommend getting tested regularly, best to do it a week after a risk event (anything uncovered).