I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sights?
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I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sights?
[QUOTE=TeddyO;4891465]I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sights?[/QUOTE]I've used Secret Benefits for a while, complete rip-off, full of bots, you use credits for each girl you want to message, so for each bot you contact that's money you waste. With SA, for every 50-100 messages I sent I get 1-2 good POTs, if you do that on Secret Benefits it will cost you quite a lot. I haven't tried other sites but most people seem to agree that SA is the only good one unfortunately.
[QUOTE=TeddyO;4891465]I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sights[/QUOTE]I heard of the site called WhatsYourPrice.
I been looking at it and it seems most girls from SA and other adult sites are on there. That site has potential but I haven't payed for it yet. I just may.
[QUOTE=SeductiveNomad;4893557]I heard of the site called WhatsYourPrice.
I been looking at it and it seems most girls from SA and other adult sites are on there. That site has potential but I haven't payed for it yet. I just may.[/QUOTE]What's Your Price is basically the same thing as Secret Benefits. It uses credits that get blown through really quick. SA is the cheapest option for sure.
I believe it's Maduro's evil plan to take over SA & attack us via Cyber space. Yup, that is IT.
I wish SA still did weekly memberships. I used to do that back in the day, I think it was like 29.99 for 7 days.
This one wants $3 k / mo to meet once a week. WTF is up with these girls and their delusional arrangements.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4202a5eb-59a9-4c57-b6bf-f6772b1bfe82[/URL]
Very pretty girl, pleasant, she delivers. Not the cheapest, but not outrageous either. Been mentioned several times on here.
Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered.
So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa760c-1aa7-46af-888f-cdc436ae6ef8[/URL]
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4903606]So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa760c-1aa7-46af-888f-cdc436ae6ef8[/URL][/QUOTE]That's hilarious.
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4903542]Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered[/QUOTE]You need to spend all your time between now and the meeting reading the Richmond, VA, sugar thread, and the archive thereof. That is the de facto national thread, it isn't just limited to local info.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4899126]Very pretty girl, pleasant, she delivers. Not the cheapest, but not outrageous either. Been mentioned several times on here.[/QUOTE]This girl is kind of hot but has a little gps. She initially wanted 6 Benz but got her down to 4 Benz. She says that's the lowest for covered everything. I remembered someone said she accepted 350 before but not sure.
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4903606]So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa760c-1aa7-46af-888f-cdc436ae6ef8[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL.
Too bad she's gone, maybe got deleted or blocked. Either way, great troll man .
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4903542]Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered.[/QUOTE]A real, genuine SB is like having a GF that only sees you on good days. No emotional, petty arguments or any of the BS that comes along with trying to maintain a relationship. Use your own intuition to determine your relationship. I've had a few "PPM" arrangements where I only really paid every other meet.
As for PPM or any other arrangement, everything should be discussed first. Bare? Covered? CIM? There should be no surprises. They want $$. Some really just want to get fucked. LOL.
Oh, and if they call you "babe" or "hun" and use lip emojis, they're likely pros.
Good Luck!
Bump of one of my old posts.
[QUOTE=Waxxon;4122600]To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Waxxon;4907571]Bump of one of my old posts.[/QUOTE]I always negotiate for 200-250 range. We have to pay almost 100 for the room on the top of the ppm.
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4903542] Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I[/QUOTE]On the first question, I have a different take on this than most guys on here. I never negotiate "yes / no's when playing doctor. " I treat it like a date, or at least like a date in the old days before everyone got so politically correct. Treat them nice, don't talk about sex overtly, just get her to the FC and gradually escalate the action. I have not met a girl on SA yet that would not allow DFK and DATY. Only a couple that insisted on covered blow job (interestingly, one of those was OK with BBFS, she just had some sort of phobia about bare dick in her mouth!) Lots of girls want a cover for FS, but lots of others are OK with BBFS. I just go after what I want, and if they have limits it's up to them to speak up. Personally, I think a lot of them have a hard time speaking up in the heat of the moment when they are naked and have a horny male coming after them. I think a lot of those girls would have an easier time setting limits if you asked them what they were comfortable with before the clothes came off. So why give them the opportunity? You know what you want, go after it. I have found SA girls surprisingly compliant. Never give them any money until you have fucked them. It's kind of like tipping a waitress after the meal, it incentivizes them to provide good service. I actually try to avoid talking about any specific amount of money before hand at all. You would be surprised how many of these girls will let you fuck them first and then just slip something in their purse. I know I am surprised every time that works, but it works pretty often. There is a high correlation between girls who will do this and girls who don't act like pros in bed, so I am always looking for them.
On the second question, about law enforcement, I think I am with the majority here in believing you really have nothing to worry about. LE has bigger fish to fry. If you are a little bit discreet in your communications they really have no evidence on you.
And if you follow my favorite M. O. , I don't think you are actually doing anything illegal. Meet them for lunch or a drink. Hit on them. Make some general references about how you can take them places and help them out, no dollar signs attached. Suggest you go to a hotel. They know what is going to happen at the hotel, you don't have to draw them a picture. I like to bring a bottle of wine and chat for a while at the hotel to put them at ease. Then start making out, and escalate. Take her clothes off. Put her through the paces any way you please. Slip cash in her purse afterward. What laws have I broken, your honor?
Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28[/URL]
[QUOTE=DogBert77;4914410]On the first question, I have a different take on this than most guys on here. I never negotiate "yes / no's when playing doctor. " I treat it like a date, or at least like a date in the old days before everyone got so politically correct. Treat them nice, don't talk about sex overtly, just get her to the FC and gradually escalate the action. I have not met a girl on SA yet that would not allow DFK and DATY. Only a couple that insisted on covered blow job (interestingly, one of those was OK with BBFS, she just had some sort of phobia about bare dick in her mouth!) Lots of girls want a cover for FS, but lots of others are OK with BBFS. I just go after what I want, and if they have limits it's up to them to speak up. Personally, I think a lot of them have a hard time speaking up in the heat of the moment when they are naked and have a horny male coming after them. I think a lot of those girls would have an easier time setting limits if you asked them what they were comfortable with before the clothes came off. So why give them the opportunity? You know what you want, go after it. I have found SA girls surprisingly compliant. Never give them any money until you have fucked them. It's kind of like tipping a waitress after the meal, it incentivizes them to provide good service. I actually try to avoid talking about any specific amount of money before hand at all. You would be surprised how many of these girls will let you fuck them first and then just slip something in their purse. I know I am surprised every time that works, but it works pretty often. There is a high correlation between girls who will do this and girls who don't act like pros in bed, so I am always looking for them.
On the second question, about law enforcement, I think I am with the majority here in believing you really have nothing to worry about. LE has bigger fish to fry. If you are a little bit discreet in your communications they really have no evidence on you.
And if you follow my favorite M. O. , I don't think you are actually doing anything illegal. Meet them for lunch or a drink. Hit on them. Make some general references about how you can take them places and help them out, no dollar signs attached. Suggest you go to a hotel. They know what is going to happen at the hotel, you don't have to draw them a picture. I like to bring a bottle of wine and chat for a while at the hotel to put them at ease. Then start making out, and escalate. Take her clothes off. Put her through the paces any way you please. Slip cash in her purse afterward. What laws have I broken, your honor?[/QUOTE]
She has definitely gone "pro". Looks like she has just started but she can still be found other places outside of SA. I messaged on another site and she definitely uses the typical terms (I. E. Babe).
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Scarlett_angel[/URL]
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4916344]Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4916344]Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28[/URL][/QUOTE]NewHobby, I think you will have many recurrences of this experience. If you ask a girl for a menu and prices, you are only ever going to get a girl who has a menu. In other words, some variety of a pro, semi-pro, UTR, etc. My way takes more time, but it allows you to find the true gems and get the best possible service from them. The results have been worth the effort for me. I realize this is a minority view, just my two cents.
[QUOTE=EndlessOne;4916344]Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28[/URL][/QUOTE]You must be joking, right? If anyone wants a pro, they should go to a pro board or site, like HX. This is the sort of woman I am on SA to avoid!
Any woman on SA who quotes by the hour / time is a pro.
Any woman who volunteers a "menu" and prices by item is a pro.
And then there are all the red flags in her profile.
"abused" = damaged, or playing fake sympathy card, or both.
"knows my worth" = GPS at least, possible pro.
"independent "+ "traveling" = As in she is traveling around. What can that can mean for an 18 year old? Hint. Pro.
"covid free"! Really? How would you know? How would she know? How many guys/day is she entertaining, given she is on HX??
And to round it all off, she is pimped!
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4918123]You must be joking, right? If anyone wants a pro, they should go to a pro board or site, like HX. This is the sort of woman I am on SA to avoid!
Any woman on SA who quotes by the hour / time is a pro.
Any woman who volunteers a "menu" and prices by item is a pro.
And then there are all the red flags in her profile.
"abused" = damaged, or playing fake sympathy card, or both.
"knows my worth" = GPS at least, possible pro.
"independent "+ "traveling" = As in she is traveling around. What can that can mean for an 18 year old? Hint. Pro.
"covid free"! Really? How would you know? How would she know? How many guys/day is she entertaining, given she is on HX??
And to round it all off, she is pimped![/QUOTE]I apologize Pussy Pumper, still new to the game and yes that makes sense I understand where you are coming from. You made really strong points and I'll take this information with great confidence for my next encounter. I have found another POT and will not discuss terms at all with her based on the feedback unless she does first. I'm going to try to take it slow, my other head has been overriding my thought process these past days.
Been on SA over a year. Anyone talked / seen / dated her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/44bb2eb1-10bd-426e-8af6-0deb85a31a2f[/URL]
You can PM me if you don't want to post publicly.
Started texting immediately, broken ass English, claims willing to drive to me but wanted gas money up front.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b86f8464-067b-4bc2-8b50-cfcb54996318[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/447c07e7-db5f-4e24-bc29-18f7610390ff[/URL]
This girl is pretty new and don't know much acronyms but definitely has gps. After some negotiation, she went down to 5 benz. Way too high for an average looking girl with a kid already.
Here are a few reports.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/89f1e02c-50ee-4720-abe1-bd60bc8ee405[/URL]
Fake. Wanted money via CashApp for gas. I knew it was a scammer so I continued texting. She wanted 100 for gas and sent a bunch of naked pics trying to get me to commit.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79de257c-9fe1-4369-bb49-576c5fa0d49d[/URL]
This one is interesting. Met her for car date for 2. She is deaf so no need to talk. Not really my style but good for a one and done.
[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;4928511]Here are a few reports.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/89f1e02c-50ee-4720-abe1-bd60bc8ee405[/URL]
Fake. Wanted money via CashApp for gas. I knew it was a scammer so I continued texting. She wanted 100 for gas and sent a bunch of naked pics trying to get me to commit.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79de257c-9fe1-4369-bb49-576c5fa0d49d[/URL]
This one is interesting. Met her for car date for 2. She is deaf so no need to talk. Not really my style but good for a one and done.[/QUOTE]"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.
[QUOTE=SeniorLeche;4928587]"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.[/QUOTE]Right? Kind of the definition of the perfect sugar baby, and perfect woman for that matter.
[QUOTE=SeniorLeche;4928587]"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.[/QUOTE]It's why I love going to TJ. No need to speak.
[QUOTE=SeniorLeche;4928587]"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.[/QUOTE]She's actually a pro-I've met her years ago through backpage.
The good thing is that you can call her derogatory names while fucking her.
Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their [URL]seeking.com[/URL] membership? Do you recommend any in particular?
[QUOTE=Pete8911;4934547]Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their [URL]seeking.com[/URL] membership? Do you recommend any in particular?[/QUOTE]I use google play cards that I buy on Amazon but I think you can get them in stores and pay with cash. Downside is that you have to use the android app for using these.
[QUOTE=Pete8911;4934547]Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their [URL]seeking.com[/URL] membership? Do you recommend any in particular?[/QUOTE]Widely discussed on the 'bible' of the sugar bowl, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread. OneVanilla prepaid debit cards still work. Make SURE it is exactly that. Available at any pharmacy / grocery.
Even within this forum, just search "Vanilla" or thread number 893 & beyond.
[QUOTE=Pete8911;4934547]Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their [URL]seeking.com[/URL] membership? Do you recommend any in particular?[/QUOTE]And this it's why you keep a credit card in only your name. Just tell the Mrs. That you want to surprise her with gifts on the holidays without her seeing the bill before hand.
[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;4940191]And this it's why you keep a credit card in only your name. Just tell the Mrs. That you want to surprise her with gifts on the holidays without her seeing the bill before hand.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I think this is just very poor operational security. Recall that there was a breach of the old Ashley Madison site, they released names, phone #s, email addresses, credit card #s, everything. I got some extortion emails, I ignored them, thankfully no one followed up, I am sure there was too much volume.
It is COMPLETELY unnecessary to take this risk w / a card that is linked to you. Pre-paid cards work fine, they are bought with cash and can't themselves be traced. Why would you do anything else??
Was wondering if anyone has experience with the following cutie:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/444eca4e-3d17-e517-bb1f-acdf9834b05f[/URL]
Goes by Mandy. Also is on the following as Ivy:
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/aXdyBZx98JOOjd2JNYVKQEML[/URL]
Any insights, would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4940218]Sorry, but I think this is just very poor operational security. Recall that there was a breach of the old Ashley Madison site, they released names, phone #s, email addresses, credit card #s, everything. I got some extortion emails, I ignored them, thankfully no one followed up, I am sure there was too much volume.
It is COMPLETELY unnecessary to take this risk w / a card that is linked to you. Pre-paid cards work fine, they are bought with cash and can't themselves be traced. Why would you do anything else??[/QUOTE]This is precisely why I asked. The old lady does not have access to my statements, but I don't want an Ashley Madison repeat. I'm thankful that I was not caught on that one. Also, I'm thinking of bailing soon and don't want divorce attorneys combing through my finances and finding shit like that.
[QUOTE=Pete8911;4934547]Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their [URL]seeking.com[/URL] membership? Do you recommend any in particular?[/QUOTE]Vanilla has worked for me in the past (December '19). Make sure to set a zip code by logging in prior to paying.