Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=TheLobster;3315499]Any info on her. Its been 2 weeks playing messages, going no where.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0da6a58e-9bfb-4078-bafe-7d3e4295983a[/URL][/QUOTE]Same experience as Chickamonte. Most people feel dancers are a waste of time. They have too much experience extracting money from men in the clubs and have unrealistic expectations. My experience says that is all true.

Bam.

[QUOTE=BamBam;3315599]Same experience as Chickamonte. Most people feel dancers are a waste of time. They have too much experience extracting money from men in the clubs and have unrealistic expectations. My experience says that is all true.

Bam.[/QUOTE]Will tell you the same thing, we refer to it as the "Dancer Mentality".

They want to be paid by the pop or they are one and done since the music has stopped and its time to move on to the next guy.

Or to put it another way, $150 from the guy just to be in the VIP room and another $50 for the BJ means that in her mind she gets $200 for a BJ, which translates to a severe case of GPS.

[QUOTE=TheLobster;3314254]She hasn't responded me to yet, Let me know how the haircut goes LOL.[/QUOTE]Is that she's looking for $250/ meet.

So hopefully she's either planning on a really long break at a notel or the break is just the first MnG.

I wonder if the guy who's wrist and wristband that you can see in one of the pics is good with her playing on the side.

The problem with sugar babies is that when they work it is so good. Like ByronDee, I'm doing a lot of business travel lately. I'm still away--and have had a great time with 3 different sugarbanbies. So good.

For some sugar babies, the fact that I'm passing through might be an advantage--its lets them follow though without the consequence of a local contact.

Meanwhile, will get up a report or two of ones in Ohio!

C.

And completely agree about dancers. My one sb fail on this trip was with a dancer.

While I agree with almost everything you say, remember that, while the dancers get, say, $200 per BJ handed to them, they have to turn over a fair amount of that to the house. I have a very good friend who is a very successful dancer and she says its not quite as good as we patrons think it is. That said, it sure as hell ain't bad. Although to be honest I don't know if I could do it, no matter what the money is! LOL.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;3315616]Will tell you the same thing, we refer to it as the "Dancer Mentality".

They want to be paid by the pop or they are one and done since the music has stopped and its time to move on to the next guy.

Or to put it another way, $150 from the guy just to be in the VIP room and another $50 for the BJ means that in her mind she gets $200 for a BJ, which translates to a severe case of GPS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CletusTheYokel;3315898]The problem with sugar babies is that when they work it is so good. Like ByronDee, I'm doing a lot of business travel lately. I'm still away--and have had a great time with 3 different sugarbanbies. So good.

For some sugar babies, the fact that I'm passing through might be an advantage--its lets them follow though without the consequence of a local contact.

Meanwhile, will get up a report or two of ones in Ohio!

C.

And completely agree about dancers. My one sb fail on this trip was with a dancer.[/QUOTE]You might want to put on your profile that you are a traveler so that the SBs know that the fav / contact they got isn't just a drive by.

BTW, has anyone else suddenly received a spike in the number favs from outside the US in the last week. ?

She says she doesn't care about money. Is she for real?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1df4aee1-3814-4642-b5de-ca38ace7e88e[/URL]

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;3316080]You might want to put on your profile that you are a traveler so that the SBs know that the fav / contact they got isn't just a drive by.

BTW, has anyone else suddenly received a spike in the number favs from outside the US in the last week. ?[/QUOTE]I received a bunch from the Philippines, a few others from all over the globe.

"I don't work for free, and I don't expect free money. ".

Maybe she changed it after you posted, but it sounds like she's down for a quid pro quo scenario.

[QUOTE=TheLobster;3316180]She says she doesn't care about money. Is she for real?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1df4aee1-3814-4642-b5de-ca38ace7e88e[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LukeCoolHand;3316268]"I don't work for free, and I don't expect free money. ".

Maybe she changed it after you posted, but it sounds like she's down for a quid pro quo scenario.[/QUOTE]Since it went up.

I got an I'm back asking for type of arrangement and details, so lets see if she has GPS or is just blowing smoke.

Probably fake. Has anyone approached her?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5d7a4514-9e77-4823-b3b6-f8b87fca601b[/URL]

[URL]www.xhamster.com/user/Banditt78[/URL]

Says she is getting $700 per meeting. I have countered, far less.

She countered back with $500, and saying no anal. Not sure if her stance on anal is a general statement or we have established it's $200 more.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1b12058-3eb4-4578-b627-7e93134ebcf5[/URL]

My experience indicates the market is asking $200 to $300 for a meeting / date. Perhaps dinner and a multi-hour session of fun, it's a full evening. What are other mongers seeing? Other than you guys that get them for free. .t

[URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6e2c4a88-27df-4458-886e-6e56846920f6[/URL]

Wants $500 per meeting.

Unfortunately there are a few high-end professional guys that don't tend to frequent this site that are willing to pay $500 to $1,000 a meet. Some more than that. The good news is that those guys are far and few between. I've had great success with $150 to $300 per meet. Never have I paid for a M&G. There are too many ladies looking for an easy buck to worry about the GPS. Most that have the GPS affliction are usually not any good in bed anyway. I've had better times with 25 to 29 yo ladies that have experience and have gotten over the GPS syndrome.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3317052][URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6e2c4a88-27df-4458-886e-6e56846920f6[/URL]

Wants $500 per meeting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CinMiner;3317036]Says she is getting $700 per meeting. I have countered, far less.

She countered back with $500, and saying no anal. Not sure if her stance on anal is a general statement or we have established it's $200 more.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1b12058-3eb4-4578-b627-7e93134ebcf5[/URL]

My experience indicates the market is asking $200 to $300 for a meeting / date. Perhaps dinner and a multi-hour session of fun, it's a full evening. What are other mongers seeing? Other than you guys that get them for free. .t[/QUOTE]You know it would be a lot easier if they just sent a menu.

I've always had great SA success, however recently its insane, I am spilling hot pussy off my plate, I am backed up on meet and greets, seeing my regulars, etc, I need a pssy holiday!. I still can't believe all the young girls that I meet and have NO inhibitions, none. If I get any more young sexy SUBs I am going to start a CULT!

[QUOTE=JayMalibu;3317067]Unfortunately there are a few high-end professional guys that don't tend to frequent this site that are willing to pay $500 to $1,000 a meet. Some more than that. The good news is that those guys are far and few between. I've had great success with $150 to $300 per meet. Never have I paid for a M&G. There are too many ladies looking for an easy buck to worry about the GPS. Most that have the GPS affliction are usually not any good in bed anyway. I've had better times with 25 to 29 yo ladies that have experience and have gotten over the GPS syndrome.[/QUOTE]Sir, delete some old emails, not able to send you private message.

[QUOTE=CinMiner;3317036]Says she is getting $700 per meeting. I have countered, far less.

She countered back with $500, and saying no anal. Not sure if her stance on anal is a general statement or we have established it's $200 more.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1b12058-3eb4-4578-b627-7e93134ebcf5[/URL]

My experience indicates the market is asking $200 to $300 for a meeting / date. Perhaps dinner and a multi-hour session of fun, it's a full evening. What are other mongers seeing? Other than you guys that get them for free. .t[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/dd63a4fe-f5d8-4c77-fb5c-e542ddb4189c[/URL]

300/ visit.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6c066878-d17f-4a19-a040-bafee244b0a2[/URL]

350/2 hr.

[QUOTE=CinMiner;3317036]Says she is getting $700 per meeting. I have countered, far less.
She countered back with $500, and saying no anal. Not sure if her stance on anal is a general statement or we have established it's $200 more.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1b12058-3eb4-4578-b627-7e93134ebcf5[/URL]
My experience indicates the market is asking $200 to $300 for a meeting / date. Perhaps dinner and a multi-hour session of fun, it's a full evening. What are other mongers seeing? Other than you guys that get them for free...[/QUOTE]Here is what she messaged me:

Well I want $400 per visit. I don't do anal 3-some or tie ups. I'll cook for you clean for you give you message and whatever else you like. As long as you take care of me financially. I'll take care of you. I'm high maintenance. And I do have bills that need to be paid. So is it a agreement?

It'll be worth your time and money trust me! I'm the prettiest girl on here.

100 low side, and 150 to 200 nominal, only did $300 when its PERFECT. After your meet and greet and she likes you THATS when you work out the price, never pay the Rack Rate. I will say it again, SA is NOT just about "what's in your wallet", its about your charm, your looks, your confidence... Ive easily got girls that say $500 to walk down to $200.

[QUOTE=ByronDee;3317333]100 low side, and 150 to 200 nominal, only did $300 when its PERFECT. After your meet and greet and she likes you THATS when you work out the price, never pay the Rack Rate. I will say it again, SA is NOT just about "what's in your wallet", its about your charm, your looks, your confidence... Ive easily got girls that say $500 to walk down to $200.[/QUOTE]Now you guys are exchanging info! The ones that pay so much more are fools. There are SO many on there now that, if you are patient they will come. The new ones are getting it too. Many list minimal as what they seek. I am going to reveal a secret here. They are the most genuine. It is about who you are more than how much you bring. Though there are those that really need it too and you take care of them. I had two new ones last week both 19. One blonde spinner (actually the porn stars sister) and her bff. Curvy busty. SO both ends of the spectrum. ,. All night. Fun out and food etc. On me. But for under1. Each! I have had opportunities like this a few times. Not always but what he lists I found should bottom out at around 100-125. I have never been near that high end. Haileigh quoted 3 and I would not budge, She is HEAVY into BDSM and has the body of a goddess. A LOT of fun. Initial quote 700. Many of the ladies listed here have sought me out as well and chat me up too. I am just so busy with the others. Met a new 19 yo today. Interview went well. See her tomorrow. Well thre goes the subscription. She is ultra hot and got pissed at her last SD. It cannot be being in the right spot at the right time always. Something is a foot. They know that they are happy with some finiancial help. They may stay a bit till someone else comes along if you get too cheap. They will let you know that BTW. Just be fair and avoid GPS.

[QUOTE=JoeBogus;3317296]Here is what she messaged me:

Well I want $400 per visit. I don't do anal 3-some or tie ups. I'll cook for you clean for you give you message and whatever else you like. As long as you take care of me financially. I'll take care of you. I'm high maintenance. And I do have bills that need to be paid. So is it a agreement?

It'll be worth your time and money trust me! I'm the prettiest girl on here.[/QUOTE]She quoted me $350 and when I asked what was on the menu she sends a message back 6 hours later saying her rate is $400 without any other details.

If anybody has noticed there's a whole "new" crop that have suddenly been showing up.

Some of them have been on SA for a while with hidden profiles while other ones are brand new, so if you're wondering what's going on.

It's not that Spring has sprung, it's Tax time.

The economics of the SBs are quite a lot like those in the hobby, the sugar starts to dry up close to April 15, beginning / end of summer and around Christmas.

So I have no doubt that there aren't deals to be had because some of the SBs get so used to having extra cash they don't know what to do when it dries up.

[QUOTE=JLZ61;3316021]While I agree with almost everything you say, remember that, while the dancers get, say, $200 per BJ handed to them, they have to turn over a fair amount of that to the house. I have a very good friend who is a very successful dancer and she says its not quite as good as we patrons think it is. That said, it sure as hell ain't bad. Although to be honest I don't know if I could do it, no matter what the money is! LOL.[/QUOTE]Have dated a few dancers that became SB's. One of the reasons they were more willing to get less OTC was in California the cut is usually 60/40 on dances. So a 150 VIP for 30 minutes, means that they would only get 90. Tacking on "tips" was the way they could offset it. But because in California the "new hot" girl is usually more wanted, the vets end up getting pushed aside. That has always been the perfect time to take advantage of SB / SD relationship and they are usually willing to make $3-5 a week for as much companionship as you want.

Also, noticed that it is true what others have said about having SB's in other states. The one I have in Kentucky is quite happy that she is able to not be attached and see others if she wants because it is only during my visits to the Ohio and KY areas that she gets compensated for the week. Its also a very reasonable rate that is within the tri-state area standards.

[QUOTE=CinMiner;3317036]Says she is getting $700 per meeting. I have countered, far less.

She countered back with $500, and saying no anal. Not sure if her stance on anal is a general statement or we have established it's $200 more.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1b12058-3eb4-4578-b627-7e93134ebcf5[/URL]

My experience indicates the market is asking $200 to $300 for a meeting / date. Perhaps dinner and a multi-hour session of fun, it's a full evening. What are other mongers seeing? Other than you guys that get them for free. .t[/QUOTE]Pretty, but by far ([I]and I realize beauty is in the eye of the beerholder[/I]), she is not the prettiest on SA. And, for $700, Tara Butler would be a much better choice if you can get past her Selective Gestapo Verification process lol.

I highly doubt she is getting $700 - if she were and could do all she promises, she would no longer need to be on SA ([i]assuming several meets a month of course[/i]).

There are equally as pretty, if not prettier, and perhaps better skills for $$ to $$$ ;)

TGM

I'd stay away from this one. I too was chatting with her. Actually exchanged numbers last night. She texted me this morning saying it was her birthday. So I looked the number up on Facebook and it was a dude. Probably her pimp. I blocked her on SA and on my phone.

[QUOTE=JoeBogus;3317296]Here is what she messaged me:

Well I want $400 per visit. I don't do anal 3-some or tie ups. I'll cook for you clean for you give you message and whatever else you like. As long as you take care of me financially. I'll take care of you. I'm high maintenance. And I do have bills that need to be paid. So is it a agreement?

It'll be worth your time and money trust me! I'm the prettiest girl on here.[/QUOTE]

It's so easy to spend a couple minutes putting a number into google or FB. I've found many that are advertisers on BP. Or as was found with this last post, a guy. LOL You never know it could have been the guy that would have shown up.

[QUOTE=John300;3318402]I'd stay away from this one. I too was chatting with her. Actually exchanged numbers last night. She texted me this morning saying it was her birthday. So I looked the number up on Facebook and it was a dude. Probably her pimp. I blocked her on SA and on my phone.[/QUOTE]She'll do $350 for something like 3 hrs and three somes, anal and bondage are definitely not on the menu.

Chatted on and off with this one. Profile disappeared for a bit but back up now. Profile now says graduate of this year but age says 19? I'm a little leary to say the least I graduated at 19 but most are barely 18 when they get out of school. Any of you had any experience with her?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b1f4bd16-0a0d-c26f-f741-09bea915fd2a[/URL]

Well guys, it looks like sugar babies have a forum just like us. So just last weekend after refusing to meet one for wanting me to pay m&g I have been blacklisted and have received quiet explicit messages regarding what I should do to myself.

[blue]Wouldn't even worry about it, I kind of know a little about this subject and the shortage on SB sites is the guys with serious money. If you do, then you will get a lot of traffic.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Markiv;3320300]Well guys, it looks like sugar babies have a forum just like us. So just last weekend after refusing to meet one for wanting me to pay m&g I have been blacklisted and have received quiet explicit messages regarding what I should do to myself.[/QUOTE]After all it could make for interesting reading.

[QUOTE=Markiv;3320300]Well guys, it looks like sugar babies have a forum just like us. So just last weekend after refusing to meet one for wanting me to pay m&g I have been blacklisted and have received quiet explicit messages regarding what I should do to myself.[/QUOTE]Haha. I'm not surprised that an SB version exists. Do you haopen to have a link?

[QUOTE=Markiv;3320300]Well guys, it looks like sugar babies have a forum just like us. So just last weekend after refusing to meet one for wanting me to pay m&g I have been blacklisted and have received quiet explicit messages regarding what I should do to myself.[/QUOTE]Would be interesting to have that forum LOL.

[QUOTE=Markiv;3320300]Well guys, it looks like sugar babies have a forum just like us. So just last weekend after refusing to meet one for wanting me to pay m&g I have been blacklisted and have received quiet explicit messages regarding what I should do to myself.

[blue]Wouldn't even worry about it, I kind of know a little about this subject and the shortage on SB sites is the guys with serious money. If you do, then you will get a lot of traffic.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]BS, I drowning in SB's and I NEVER pay M&G, and I negotiate, so you guys keep all the Pay M&Gs, and $500+ per meeting girls, and I will work my magic on the rest. LOL! I think I did 4 M&G this week alone, one lead to a make out session, so she got something!

Name changed to protect my sanity:

7:45 AM (Her): Want to grab dinner tonight?

7:45 AM (Me): Sure! What are you thinking?

7:46 AM (her): Steak, or mexican.

7:50 AM (Me): Does 7:45 PM tonight work for you downtown?

7:51 AM (Her): Yes.

I text her the name of the restaurant where I have reservations, made sure I had cash in case she needed it for the valet, etc etc etc.

12:45 PM (Her): We're still on for dinner tonight, right?

12:47 PM (Me): Of course.

4:30 PM (Me): I'm going to be in meetings for the next two hours -- I'll message you later when I'm done, ok?

6:00 PM (Her): Hey, are we still on for dinner?

6:01 PM (Her): Hello??

6:01 PM (Her): Since you're not responding to me, I'm just going to stay at home.

Suffice to say, I had dinner by myself last night.

[QUOTE=ByronDee;3320990]BS, I drowning in SB's and I NEVER pay M&G, and I negotiate, so you guys keep all the Pay M&Gs, and $500+ per meeting girls, and I will work my magic on the rest. LOL! I think I did 4 M&G this week alone, one lead to a make out session, so she got something![/QUOTE]I am also convinced there is no reason to pay for a M&G and you can make out just fine without doing them at all or at least plan on beginning the fun right after the M&G is over. I don't have any details as to how many serious money guys are throwing big dollars at these girls and getting laid or how many are getting companionship only but I know both situations exist. I went on one SB's IG account and she had photos of her and a GF in a private jet and another of her flashing a wad of 100's while on a trip out West to see a college football game. There were no men in any of the pics, but I am sure they didn't charter the jet themselves.

[QUOTE=JizMan;3321176]I am also convinced there is no reason to pay for a M&G and you can make out just fine without doing them at all or at least plan on beginning the fun right after the M&G is over. I don't have any details as to how many serious money guys are throwing big dollars at these girls and getting laid or how many are getting companionship only but I know both situations exist. I went on one SB's IG account and she had photos of her and a GF in a private jet and another of her flashing a wad of 100's while on a trip out West to see a college football game. There were no men in any of the pics, but I am sure they didn't charter the jet themselves.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking, I won't pay for a M&G, but, I have no problems paying for an uber (to and from), paying for valet if they drive, and taking care of the meal. I'm also usually prepared with some cash and protection in case things go well enough at the M&G if they want to try to do something later. If she tells me that she's expecting compensation for her time up front, then, I generally block and move to the next one; if I want to spend time with an escort, I'll find an escort. It's that simple. I will respect everyone, but, I refuse to respect people who are rinsers or scammers.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster;3321733]Generally speaking, I won't pay for a M&G, but, I have no problems paying for an uber (to and from), paying for valet if they drive, and taking care of the meal. I'm also usually prepared with some cash and protection in case things go well enough at the M&G if they want to try to do something later. If she tells me that she's expecting compensation for her time up front, then, I generally block and move to the next one; if I want to spend time with an escort, I'll find an escort. It's that simple. I will respect everyone, but, I refuse to respect people who are rinsers or scammers.[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree with that. Just treat it like a date. Anyone who is a tight ass is most likely not going to do well on SA unless they are dealing strictly with the pros and semi-pros who sometimes troll the site.

If you use some google fu you'll find the forums.

Let's talk sugar.

[QUOTE=Ozmosis;3320596]Haha. I'm not surprised that an SB version exists. Do you haopen to have a link?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately no, I just had a 3-4 of the girls I had previously messaged call be fake and other assortments of curse words.