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[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2834971]This crap happen s all the time. Have been told by girls that afterwards when they take a shower that guys grab their purse and run, leaving them stranded without cash or phones. Happens on both sides.[/QUOTE]I guess you are right about that. I don't even know why I would care. If they are going to live that life. Then this shit is going to happen.
Is that considered part of this thread? If not, where?
[QUOTE=Raslan;2842309]Is that considered part of this thread? If not, where?[/QUOTE]Sure it is, lets hear all the juicy details. lol. And don't forget the pics.
I just broke my GPS record.
Me and my gf $3 k each.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e52d07451/view?interests-my-favorites[/URL]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2842341]Sure it is, lets hear all the juicy details. lol. And don't forget the pics.[/QUOTE]Just steal pics off of porn sites, blogs, etc. That is ALL I've gotten! The place is a jack fest! I have never sent so many messages to get so few responses. Oh, wait. Did get one that wanted $850 to come over. "What do you think?
Are you fuggin kidding me??
I had to drop SA after 2 months due to too many to choose. You can keep AFF!
[QUOTE=Raslan;2842720]Just steal pics off of porn sites, blogs, etc. That is ALL I've gotten! The place is a jack fest! I have never sent so many messages to get so few responses. Oh, wait. Did get one that wanted $850 to come over. "What do you think?
Are you fuggin kidding me??
I had to drop SA after 2 months due to too many to choose. You can keep AFF![/QUOTE]AFF has always been about 50 guys to one girl. SA says they are 4 girls to one guy. But its actually stacked far higher in the guys favor. I would says its closer to 50 girls for every one serious guy. But of course their expectations may be out of line. But still many girls to choose from. Very few guys for the girls to choose from.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2842851]AFF has always been about 50 guys to one girl. SA says they are 4 girls to one guy. But its actually stacked far higher in the guys favor. I would says its closer to 50 girls for every one serious guy. But of course their expectations may be out of line. But still many girls to choose from. Very few guys for the girls to choose from.[/QUOTE]Even the ladies I'm actually seeing say SA wasn't getting them the response they thought they would. Great bargaining chip.
[QUOTE=Raslan;2843301]Even the ladies I'm actually seeing say SA wasn't getting them the response they thought they would. Great bargaining chip.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls on SA never even do one M&G. Some do a few and maybe date one guy. Anything above that for anything but a 9 or 10 that's not GPS would be considered a success.
The last girl I did an M&G with a week or so ago finally decided to come see me again late last night. She spent the night and left as I was going to work. She is cute enough and has a cute little frame. She is 5'1" and 107. So I got her on a diet, seven lbs less would make her pretty scrumptious. I got two bites at the apple while she was here. One at bedtime and one when I got up.
Total damage was .4 (she is supposed to come by again later tonite).
I remember on HX and TER before that, only one or two moments when, after they opened the door, I shouted "Yikes" in my head! "How do I get out of this?
Well, unlike HG's recent adventure, I had my 1st "Yikes" moment on SA. Was digging through numbers I had saved on my invaluable spreadsheet and found one I never met in an area where I was headed. Texted her, arranged the meet and when she walked up "Yikes!" I am too nice to just stop right there and and say "Ya know, this ain't workin' for me. " So I went to lunch with her. Giant, painted lips, a real artsy fartsy, "designing my own line of handbags" type. I kept being nice but couldn't wait to finish and get out of there. She asked me towards the end "Would you like to see me again?" Again, the nice guy, I said that my schedule was hectic the next 3 weeks and would have to see type of things instead of saying what I wanted to which was " HEEELLLLL NO!
Lunch ended, we walked back to our cars, her even saying as we walked that it was too bad we couldn't spend more time today. We got to our cars and I didn't even hug her good bye. Got in my car and bolted. Oh, and to add a lingering memory of my misadventure? We had Indian food (NOT on my list at all!) and, despite repeated washing, like the memory of her, I couldn't get the smell off my hands!
Thank god I'm seeing one of my housewives tomorrow after a too-long break. Hope the smell of curry has dissipated.
ME - to a POT I messaged yesterday - a 19 year old model.
"I understand some girls will date anyone if they pay enough. And I don't judge. I just know that for $100 a girl has to like me to keep seeing me. At $200-$300 I would never know if it was me or just the cash."
HER.
"That's fine with me, I feel the same way. I feel my person is cheapened when it's just all about the money."
These girls do exist. Like the one I just posted about below. But then there is usually a real need for companionship, that I know a lot of guys on here don't want any part of.
And either do I most of the time, as I just don't have any time these days or don't feel any real connection outside of the FC.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2846542]The last girl I did an M&G with a week or so ago finally decided to come see me again late last night. She spent the night and left as I was going to work. She is cute enough and has a cute little frame. She is 5'1" and 107. So I got her on a diet, seven lbs less would make her pretty scrumptious. I got two bites at the apple while she was here. One at bedtime and one when I got up.
Total damage was .4 (she is supposed to come by again later tonite).[/QUOTE]Are you kidding? Did you accidentally forget to prefix a $ sign?
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2846855]Are you kidding? Did you accidentally forget to prefix a $ sign?[/QUOTE]No, I am not kidding. She came back over tonite (late and after work). We went to dinner and then to the FC. She is asleep now. Cost me another .2 for the Chinese food. So far so good. She has to leave if I have a date with either one of my two main chicks. But she is cool with that She is willing to take less to get some BFE.
[QUOTE=Raslan;2846566]I remember on HX and TER before that, only one or two moments when, after they opened the door, I shouted "Yikes" in my head! "How do I get out of this?
Well, unlike HG's recent adventure, I had my 1st "Yikes" moment on SA. Was digging through numbers I had saved on my invaluable spreadsheet and found one I never met in an area where I was headed. Texted her, arranged the meet and when she walked up "Yikes!" I am too nice to just stop right there and and say "Ya know, this ain't workin' for me. " So I went to lunch with her. Giant, painted lips, a real artsy fartsy, "designing my own line of handbags" type. I kept being nice but couldn't wait to finish and get out of there. She asked me towards the end "Would you like to see me again?" Again, the nice guy, I said that my schedule was hectic the next 3 weeks and would have to see type of things instead of saying what I wanted to which was " HEEELLLLL NO!
Lunch ended, we walked back to our cars, her even saying as we walked that it was too bad we couldn't spend more time today. We got to our cars and I didn't even hug her good bye. Got in my car and bolted. Oh, and to add a lingering memory of my misadventure? We had Indian food (NOT on my list at all!) and, despite repeated washing, like the memory of her, I couldn't get the smell off my hands!
Thank god I'm seeing one of my housewives tomorrow after a too-long break. Hope the smell of curry has dissipated.[/QUOTE]I think we can all relate to you and feel your pain. I have had the same meetings where I was wondering what is the point of misrepresenting yourself so badly? Glad you got out of there relatively unharmed, hopefully the trauma only lasted the day. Move on and conquer, you'll be ok.
My membership expires in 2 days.
Girl 1 19 yo AA.
I am still speaking with the first girl I met, the 19 yo.
She agreed to going and getting a room, she texts me every few days asking me when I will see her again.
Unfortunately, it has become almost too much, she is 19, doesn't drive, she is needy and I do like her but the distance is a bit too far from me, and since we haven't actually done more than makeout there isn't much attracting me.
The good thing is she hasn't asked me for anything, I really feel like she likes me. And is in need of my help.
Girl 2 27 yo AA.
M&G set up for today at 1 pm.
She is a little distance from me also about 30 minutes, but she drives. She seems like she has her shit together, and knows what she wants.
She can host which is a big plus for me. We are meeting for lunch today to see what her deal is. She says bills / allowance but is negotiable.
She already text me, maybe we will be such good friends you won't even want to fuck. LOL WTF I don't want a friend.
Girl 3 31 yo White Girl.
She lives very close to me. Claims she can host, and is looking for help with bills, or pampering shoes bags etc.
She said she will call me today to set up a M&G.
I have a few other girls I'm texting but the ones above are the one's I have met / will meet or seem most genuine.
Overall I have had a pretty good amount of luck in terms of talking to girls, texting etc.
I'm just cheap, so I'm not looking for the supermodels etc. I just want some good ole fashion lovin'.
I likely won't renew right now, I will try and cultivate the girls I'm currently talking too.
I also have a Russian girl out in Simi Valley early 30's I told her maybe I could share her info she said sure. I have not discussed money. So let me know if you want her info.
My new temporary house guest has dark latina colored skin and straight natural hair but claims to be half black and half white. Today we will break the $ level after 3 days. Well worth it. Sometimes you do get lucky. I hit it 4 times so far in 3 days.
This is basically just civi dating but without the drama that is sometimes associated with that. I even canceled my date today with my church girl because of her. No biggy as she was busy anyway. But a $ saving for me.
[QUOTE=XxBullXx;2847501]My membership expires in 2 days.
I likely won't renew right now, I will try and cultivate the girls I'm currently talking too.
[/QUOTE]Nice. Have you gotten to the FC yet? Oh, you can always renew as needed.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2846992]No, I am not kidding. She came back over tonite (late and after work). We went to dinner and then to the FC. She is asleep now. Cost me another .2 for the Chinese food. So far so good. She has to leave if I have a date with either one of my two main chicks. But she is cool with that She is willing to take less to get some BFE.[/QUOTE]Love to see a pic or two.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2847845]Nice. Have you gotten to the FC yet? Oh, you can always renew as needed.[/QUOTE]No FC yet.
Made out with girl #2 yesterday on our M&G. She is from out of state, claims she just wants some friends and someone to show her around. I don't think she needs money, she has a job and a nicer car than I do LOL.
So for now I am happy with the 19 yo, and 25 yo. Ill see where they both lead.
Overall speaking though, I think it was a good month run in terms of talking to girls.
I blew a few off, so it's not like I only talked to a few. I only had 2 M&G in the month that we went through with. I blew a few others off.
So the girls are out there.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2848919]Love to see a pic or two.[/QUOTE]Thats going to take a little doing as we are still early in the getting comfortable stage. Today is day four. So far I am up to $.35 for 5 trips to the FC. And she is excellent about leaving when I have to go to work. She must have a bit more going on than I can see because she has her own decent place and is definitely a worker.
I am sure my numbers are going to go up as things progress. So far no big demands other than most of my time when I am off work. Also no reason to do any two hour sessions in the FC like when I see my two regulars. Its much more frequent and I would be dead if I tried to do that twice a day. So the quicky or a more normal time spent is kinda nice. I cant plan a quicky with a high paid regular. That would be a waste of time and money.
I didn't renew on SA as I have 4 or so that I can rotate through the FC. Scheduling and funds are the biggest factors. The 43 yo that I see at her place for free lets me do anything. Anything I want to her. She isn't the hottest looking but you can't beat the entry price! The HW is back but her hubby stayed home sick Thursday so had to go to 43 yo as Plan be so we haven't reconnected though I really like her. The AA is smokin' hot but need hotel and $ and is all the way in the So Bay. Got one local that I think we'll be bumpin' uglies this coming week but also needs hotel and, bc she is a nurse, very busy.
Don't really want to see the model again though I suppose I could. And there are a couple others I haven't closed but am still working on.
The problem is that I keep seeing how much action my dormant SA account is still getting. Messages I can't view (torture), being favorited, etc. Plus, some very cute noobs are there. Plus, I feel my knowledge and overall game is much better.
So, the dilemma is, do I renew for a month or three and and put a whole lot more names in my POT spreadsheet? Or keep working through the ones from before until I've exhausted the list? Or should I stop looking at SA after a few beers?!
I just don't know. I really did get overwhelmed with the number of POT's before and had to narrow it down. It was a good problem to have!
Sez you?
Renew when you run out of action, otherwise you're just burning thru the list of pots.
I see this 50 why / o lady she's ok looking but gives the an best slow BJ I've ever had and is great in bed for $60.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2847845]Nice. Have you gotten to the FC yet? Oh, you can always renew as needed.[/QUOTE]Okay, been racking my brain. What is FC? Are there other terms I need to know. I just started SA and so far have been communicating through PMs. Trying to set up a M&G.
I wouldn't mind seeing her or communicating. Send me her info. Thanks.
[QUOTE=XxBullXx;2847501]My membership expires in 2 days.
Girl 1 19 yo AA.
I am still speaking with the first girl I met, the 19 yo.
She agreed to going and getting a room, she texts me every few days asking me when I will see her again.
Unfortunately, it has become almost too much, she is 19, doesn't drive, she is needy and I do like her but the distance is a bit too far from me, and since we haven't actually done more than makeout there isn't much attracting me.
The good thing is she hasn't asked me for anything, I really feel like she likes me. And is in need of my help.
Girl 2 27 yo AA.
M&G set up for today at 1 pm.
She is a little distance from me also about 30 minutes, but she drives. She seems like she has her shit together, and knows what she wants.
She can host which is a big plus for me. We are meeting for lunch today to see what her deal is. She says bills / allowance but is negotiable.
She already text me, maybe we will be such good friends you won't even want to fuck. LOL WTF I don't want a friend.
Girl 3 31 yo White Girl.
She lives very close to me. Claims she can host, and is looking for help with bills, or pampering shoes bags etc.
She said she will call me today to set up a M&G.
I have a few other girls I'm texting but the ones above are the one's I have met / will meet or seem most genuine.
Overall I have had a pretty good amount of luck in terms of talking to girls, texting etc.
I'm just cheap, so I'm not looking for the supermodels etc. I just want some good ole fashion lovin'.
I likely won't renew right now, I will try and cultivate the girls I'm currently talking too.
I also have a Russian girl out in Simi Valley early 30's I told her maybe I could share her info she said sure. I have not discussed money. So let me know if you want her info.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuckyNutz;2850155]Okay, been racking my brain. What is FC? Are there other terms I need to know. I just started SA and so far have been communicating through PMs. Trying to set up a M&G.[/QUOTE]If you read the original (and still existing) thread / post about Sugarbabies in Richmond, VA. It is a fun read. Here are some terms I know about:
FC = Fuck Chamber.
UTR = Under The Radar (Semi Pros).
GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome.
The Bowl = The Sugar Bowl.
[QUOTE=LuckyNutz;2850155]Okay, been racking my brain. What is FC? Are there other terms I need to know. I just started SA and so far have been communicating through PMs. Trying to set up a M&G.[/QUOTE]Start with this one and work your way up. You'll be an expert by the time you're done and can impress all your friends!
Click below.
[POST=2480291][B]USA SB Highlights Part 1 - Definitions and Useful Info[/B][/POST]
Been texting back and forth with this one. Very attractive but she told this story about getting completely ripped off by a guy who taxied her out to his place then didn't have money to pay her and didn't taxi her home. Not certain about the whole thing. I won't go in to other details as I would love to hear from others who may have encountered her. She seems reasonably level headed and up for everything, so we are still texting. Any feedback would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2850261]Been texting back and forth with this one. Very attractive but she told this story about getting completely ripped off by a guy who taxied her out to his place then didn't have money to pay her and didn't taxi her home. Not certain about the whole thing. I won't go in to other details as I would love to hear from others who may have encountered her. She seems reasonably level headed and up for everything, so we are still texting. Any feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I messaged with her. She seemed chill enough. After accepting a M&G from me I faded. The only reason being her location. I know a lot of the AA action is down there. But she is just a little too big for me. Nice enough figure. But I am sticking to the petites for now.
Your story makes me wanna go look her back up. Also I pegged her for a UTR.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2850762]I think you are right about her being a UTR. Spoke with her on the phone. She seemed more level headed but wants me to buy here something for her birthday. In context, it's not that far out but if she disappears after, no bueno.[/QUOTE]It's been my experience that when you buy things for girls they don't usually dissappear. You just need to start very low if its a pre FC gift... like .2 or so.
Go meet her for an M&G and let her know you"ll give her a jackson for 15 minutes of her time over a coffee just to prove you are serious. If she doesn't like you, then you are out the twenty. I have rarely done this. But in this girls case I doubt you will be sorry. My last UTR who I banged over 30 times got a twenty from me on our first non FC date. It escalated pretty quick from there. And all we did was chat in the car for maybe 30 minutes. But by the end of that thirty minutes she had agreed to take .6 for a real date. I did a few of those and then it went to a $... after a few more she wanted too much more, so we ended it. But it was fun while it lasted.
Hey Hollywood,
Per our discussion.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2851344]Hey Hollywood,
Per our discussion.[/QUOTE]Thats her. But I wouldn't waste your time. So if you do, at least you got a heads up. I talked to her today. She will probably be back in town in a week or two.
[QUOTE=genuis8;2850176]If you read the original (and still existing) thread / post about Sugarbabies in Richmond, VA. It is a fun read. Here are some terms I know about:
FC = Fuck Chamber.
UTR = Under The Radar (Semi Pros).
GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome.
The Bowl = The Sugar Bowl.[/QUOTE]Great help! Thank you!
As an experiment I have been trying to spend a little more time here and there to see if reasoning with these girls is worth the effort. So far, not really. I got a little bit hopeful because I did snag the girl from last week that way. But I didn't really reason with her as much as just tell her I thought we could be each others type.
This is what I need.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed0e7615/view?search-recently-active[/URL]
[QUOTE=FirstHalf;2850218]Start with this one and work your way up. You'll be an expert by the time you're done and can impress all your friends!
Click below.
[POST=2480291][B]USA SB Highlights Part 1 - Definitions and Useful Info[/B][/POST][/QUOTE]Thanks. This was a wealth of information!
Not that I was trying much but just got done with a M&G that turned into a 2 hr fuckathon. All it cost me was a St*rb*cks drink and a tank of gas for her car. Nice MILFy latina 4'10" with some nice naturals 36 D and a nice rear bumper. Chatted a little bit then told me she doesn't do well in crowded places. So we chatted in her car asked me "do you have some time right now?" Told me she hasn't had any action in 8 mos so I said ok. Didn't want a dime no matter what I tried to offer. Told me text her whenever I wanted to see her again. Rock on!
[QUOTE=Venator;2852885]Not that I was trying much but just got done with a M&G that turned into a 2 hr fuckathon. All it cost me was a St*rb*cks drink and a tank of gas for her car. Nice MILFy latina 4'10" with some nice naturals 36 D and a nice rear bumper. Chatted a little bit then told me she doesn't do well in crowded places. So we chatted in her car asked me "do you have some time right now?" Told me she hasn't had any action in 8 mos so I said ok. Didn't want a dime no matter what I tried to offer. Told me text her whenever I wanted to see her again. Rock on![/QUOTE]These girls are out there. And you won't find one like the one you just banged on the street, or BP or CL (maybe). It's less likely to happen with a hot 20 year old, but not impossible.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2853046]These girls are out there. And you won't find one like the one you just banged on the street, or BP or CL (maybe). It's less likely to happen with a hot 20 year old, but not impossible.[/QUOTE]You are not joking, I was like "is this really happening?" And to be honest this is much more "efficient" when it comes to money if one works it right.
[QUOTE=Venator;2853112]You are not joking, I was like "is this really happening?" And to be honest this is much more "efficient" when it comes to money if one works it right.[/QUOTE]My experience outside the sugar world is limited. Most of what I learned I got from this site. And it did give me the tools to know how to deal with other types of girls. But The one thing the sugar world has more of than other venues, is being able to locate girls that are looking for more than just the money. Most of the SB's I have met and dated know they can make far more playing in these other venues. But they have other needs that are equally as important (or even more important to them) than just the allowance.
And I have also met quite a few that play in more than one venue. They may even have a civi BF (although I try to stay away from those types). I am usually the closest thing they have to that. At least that's my goal and I have achieved it many times.
Emotional and/or physical exclusivity. And some type of mentoring role. It really is an arrangement as opposed to a straight up rental agreement. The girl last week was here for 72 hours and 5 trips to the FC all for $.35... Now she is MIA. Will I ever see her again? Maybe, I hope so.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2853355]My experience outside the sugar world is limited.
But they have other needs that are equally as important (or even more important to them) than just the allowance.........Emotional and/or physical exclusivity. And some type of mentoring role.[/QUOTE]What I meant was as opposed to hobbying. This seems much better.
Exactly, it struck me as she hadn' had any male companionship in a while and just wanted someone to listen to her after the deed pillow talk. She talked about a lot of things before, during and after the shower.