[QUOTE=Twister100;4348150]I assume you were offering ppm.[/QUOTE]Yes because some girls want half a G for first meet. LOL I don't have that much money to waste.
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[QUOTE=Twister100;4348150]I assume you were offering ppm.[/QUOTE]Yes because some girls want half a G for first meet. LOL I don't have that much money to waste.
[QUOTE=Dog228;4348360]Yes because some girls want half a G for first meet. LOL I don't have that much money to waste.[/QUOTE]Not a criticism of offering PPM since I only offer PPM myself but SA has been distancing themselves with anything that could be construed as prostitution and they view PPM as prostitution. I would have thought any time you have sex for money regardless of how the payment works it was prostitution but I'm not a lawyer.
Thought I would pass this along for anybody who wants some cheap cross border shopping.
Allie, 23. A bit bigger but huge tits, BBCIP, CIM, ass is virgin so I passed. Total non-pro, I was her first meet off SA and I'm pretty sure she was telling the truth. A bit desperate for money as she's taking a trip in about a week. $200 Canadian but I bet you can talk her down.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/ab9e6195-f2a4-4a91-ae83-0334b7dce40d[/URL]
What's up with all the vegetarians, vegan's, lactose intolerant, gluten free young women on SA? You try to grab a simple bite with these people and it becomes a major fucking project.
[QUOTE=Joseph1955;4349794]What's up with all the vegetarians, vegan's, lactose intolerant, gluten free young women on SA? You try to grab a simple bite with these people and it becomes a major fucking project.[/QUOTE]LOL know what you mean. We used to do office pizza lunches often. Now you got to be careful before giving someone food. You have to check for allergies, preferences and sign a frigging legal disclaimer before handing someone a slice! Too much hassle.
[QUOTE=Joseph1955;4349794]What's up with all the vegetarians, vegan's, lactose intolerant, gluten free young women on SA? You try to grab a simple bite with these people and it becomes a major fucking project.[/QUOTE]You are so right on that. Out of all of the dates I've had, I believe three I could actually take to a real restaurant. Sometime last year, I just said that I'm going to eat what I want. I'm not going to go searching for some vegan restaurant and have tofu steak and pay for the privilege.
First of all, I'd like to say thanks for all the good tips and advice given here. Everyone seems cooperative and toxic messages are not given.
I've read that the going 4 hour PPM is $250/300 and sleepovers are $500/600. I'm wondering what the Seattle standard is for monthly allowances. Only once have I discussed this with a gal. She offered $1200 per month with two dates per week. Just wondering what you guys do.
[QUOTE=Toomgis;4350323]First of all, I'd like to say thanks for all the good tips and advice given here. Everyone seems cooperative and toxic messages are not given.
I've read that the going 4 hour PPM is $250/300 and sleepovers are $500/600. I'm wondering what the Seattle standard is for monthly allowances. Only once have I discussed this with a gal. She offered $1200 per month with two dates per week. Just wondering what you guys do.[/QUOTE]You're getting off cheap. Take it.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;4350407]You're getting off cheap. Take it.[/QUOTE]Thanks but.
I debated mentioning the $1,200 offer. I thought it was low and she moved to Portland away.
So the question is. What is the norm for monthly allowance.
Thnsx.
[QUOTE=Toomgis;4350428]Thanks but.
I debated mentioning the $1,200 offer. I thought it was low and she moved to Portland away.
So the question is. What is the norm for monthly allowance.
Thnsx.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is a norm, it truly depends on the person and the situation. I've paid $750 for a couple of times per month to $2000 (my absolute limit). According to people that I've been on dates with, they claim they are getting $3-$10 K per month. I'm sure some guys are paying that, but whenever they tell me that, my only thought is "then why are you wasting your time with me?" I'm sure the higher priced women are hot and have great personalities, but I can find beauty in most women, so I can find someone that I think is gorgeous with a fabulous personality for a few hundred per week.
This whole SA and the like thing is changing the landscape and putting pressure on TNA type girls I believe. There's just more supply than demand it seems, fortunately for us.
Finally tried SA and in a couple weeks have a genuine sweetheart sugar baby for 1 k monthly. Freak in the sheets and gets pissed if I'm not with her enough. If you're looking for PPM that's fine but I'm more into genuine connection and there are sweetheart women on there who will not only be grateful for monthly allowance but for your loving attentions as well.
Between her and UTR and long-term favorites I'm drowning in pussy, don't have enough time for all of it. Wonderful problem to have and don't miss the time investment and risk and hit-and-miss of seeking out new girls in the slightest.
[QUOTE=WillieDave;4347826]Use a VPN and a prepaid card to sign back up.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the pre-paid card, but SA doesn't seem to screen by VPN. Token (a credit anonymizing service) no longer works there though.
[QUOTE=CallingAllSluts;4350842]This whole SA and the like thing is changing the landscape and putting pressure on TNA type girls I believe. There's just more supply than demand it seems, fortunately for us.
Finally tried SA and in a couple weeks have a genuine sweetheart sugar baby for 1 k monthly. Freak in the sheets and gets pissed if I'm not with her enough. If you're looking for PPM that's fine but I'm more into genuine connection and there are sweetheart women on there who will not only be grateful for monthly allowance but for your loving attentions as well.
Between her and UTR and long-term favorites I'm drowning in pussy, don't have enough time for all of it. Wonderful problem to have and don't miss the time investment and risk and hit-and-miss of seeking out new girls in the slightest.[/QUOTE]Yes. The $300-$500 per hour girls on TNA are ripping off the idiots that pay it. For the same price I can get 3+ hours of bbfscip on SA. Most of the SA girls are hotter and get into it. They aren't jaded like the TNA girls.
Do Not See any of the jaded bitches on TNA unless you are in a pinch. With 1 months membership on SA, you can get contacts for 15-20 SA Sluts that are way better.
Even the Milfs are way more fun to fuck. For 500, you can fuck Sarcaticfungirl's brains8 out, an hole raw for 3 hours and she will pay or the room. She may be close to 50, but she is high energy, has the body of a 30 year old and is a Nympho that loves Dick.
She is waaaaaaaaay better than any of the most established experienced providers on TNA.
[QUOTE=Millerlite1;4351769]Yes. The $300-$500 per hour girls on TNA are ripping off the idiots that pay it. For the same price I can get 3+ hours of bbfscip on SA. Most of the SA girls are hotter and get into it. They aren't jaded like the TNA girls.
Do Not See any of the jaded bitches on TNA unless you are in a pinch. With 1 months membership on SA, you can get contacts for 15-20 SA Sluts that are way better.
Even the Milfs are way more fun to fuck. For 500, you can fuck Sarcaticfungirl's brains8 out, an hole raw for 3 hours and she will pay or the room. She may be close to 50, but she is high energy, has the body of a 30 year old and is a Nympho that loves Dick.
She is waaaaaaaaay better than any of the most established experienced providers on TNA.[/QUOTE]Yes my experience is the same. Up here in Vancouver BC we use Leolist for SPs. You can find a well-reviewed one for $200/ hr more or less. But it comes with a bunch of restrictions, clock watching, and all the rest of the pro crap.
For SA I can spend the same for a whole evening with a GND type, anything goes, she's totally into it and we have a great time for several hours. Then later in the week she's texting me for more and saying what a great time she had, etc.
And I'm talking about the under 25 crowd, 8's and up. I'm sure you can go a little older and it gets even better on the service end for low $$ or just a few drinks.
Just my honest opinion, but SA has gone downhill since around the start of this year. I had much more luck finding attractive women there last year than I have this year. Seems it's mostly full of pros, scammers, GPS. Word must be getting around that "instead of being a provider on tna, you can be a SB, get paid the same and not have to deal with all the hastle / drama".
[QUOTE=CallingAllSluts;4350842]This whole SA and the like thing is changing the landscape and putting pressure on TNA type girls I believe. There's just more supply than demand it seems, fortunately for us.
Finally tried SA and in a couple weeks have a genuine sweetheart sugar baby for 1 k monthly. Freak in the sheets and gets pissed if I'm not with her enough. If you're looking for PPM that's fine but I'm more into genuine connection and there are sweetheart women on there who will not only be grateful for monthly allowance but for your loving attentions as well.
Between her and UTR and long-term favorites I'm drowning in pussy, don't have enough time for all of it. Wonderful problem to have and don't miss the time investment and risk and hit-and-miss of seeking out new girls in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CreamPieGuy543;4352012]Just my honest opinion, but SA has gone downhill since around the start of this year. I had much more luck finding attractive women there last year than I have this year. Seems it's mostly full of pros, scammers, GPS. Word must be getting around that "instead of being a provider on tna, you can be a SB, get paid the same and not have to deal with all the hastle / drama".[/QUOTE]Hasn't for me. I just ignore those women.
Moved a SB to text and she sent me this.
Friendly Package.
(Base Pay of $250).
-Go on a Dinner date for an hour. (your choice of where and you pay for dinner not included in base pay).
-and one kiss in the night.
Sweet Package.
(Base Pay of $500).
-Dinner date of hour and a half (your choice of where and paid separate from base).
-choice of pleasure (not including intercourse).
-willing to bring another sugar baby if wanted.
Exclusive Package.
(Base Pay of $1000).
(Still NOT including full intercourse).
-includes an extra sugar baby.
-Dinner Date for an hour and a half.
-an hour of pleasure.
-include foreplay (accessories included ex: handcuffs whip ect.).
Presidential Package.
(Base Pay of $6000).
-Includes everything in the Exclusive Package.
-includes an hour and a half of intercourse.
-includes watching me and 1 or 2 (additional charges) sugar baby's have intercourse and touching while watching.
Freaking wow! LOL.
[QUOTE=Millerlite1;4351769]Yes. The $300-$500 per hour girls on TNA are ripping off the idiots that pay it. For the same price I can get 3+ hours of bbfscip on SA. Most of the SA girls are hotter and get into it. They aren't jaded like the TNA girls.
Do Not See any of the jaded bitches on TNA unless you are in a pinch. With 1 months membership on SA, you can get contacts for 15-20 SA Sluts that are way better.
Even the Milfs are way more fun to fuck. For 500, you can fuck Sarcaticfungirl's brains8 out, an hole raw for 3 hours and she will pay or the room. She may be close to 50, but she is high energy, has the body of a 30 year old and is a Nympho that loves Dick.
She is way better than any of the most established experienced providers on TNA.[/QUOTE]SFG is the fucking best. Just love her.
That's just ridiculous! She needs to be exposed to the monger world, so that the rest of us don't stumble into what would be a waste of time with this GPS inflicted young woman! Some people.
[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;4353007]Moved a SB to text and she sent me this.
Friendly Package.
(Base Pay of $250).
-Go on a Dinner date for an hour. (your choice of where and you pay for dinner not included in base pay).
-and one kiss in the night.
Sweet Package.
(Base Pay of $500).
-Dinner date of hour and a half (your choice of where and paid separate from base).
-choice of pleasure (not including intercourse).
-willing to bring another sugar baby if wanted.
Exclusive Package.
(Base Pay of $1000).
(Still NOT including full intercourse).
-includes an extra sugar baby.
-Dinner Date for an hour and a half.
-an hour of pleasure.
-include foreplay (accessories included ex: handcuffs whip ect.).
Presidential Package.
(Base Pay of $6000).
-Includes everything in the Exclusive Package.
-includes an hour and a half of intercourse.
-includes watching me and 1 or 2 (additional charges) sugar baby's have intercourse and touching while watching.
Freaking wow! LOL.[/QUOTE]
No need to worry she is out of SLC.
Ayyyylllinn.
20, Salt Lake City, Utah, United States.
[QUOTE=RockChalk;4353523]That's just ridiculous! She needs to be exposed to the monger world, so that the rest of us don't stumble into what would be a waste of time with this GPS inflicted young woman! Some people.[/QUOTE]
PH. This is incredible. I would like to know what your response to her text was. We need to remind her that when her daddy told her to dream big, this isn't exactly what he had in mind. Sad part is, she may actually find a chump who believes that this is a great deal.
[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;4353007]Moved a SB to text and she sent me this.
Friendly Package.
(Base Pay of $250).
-Go on a Dinner date for an hour. (your choice of where and you pay for dinner not included in base pay).
-and one kiss in the night.
Sweet Package.
(Base Pay of $500).
-Dinner date of hour and a half (your choice of where and paid separate from base).
-choice of pleasure (not including intercourse).
-willing to bring another sugar baby if wanted.
Exclusive Package.
(Base Pay of $1000).
(Still NOT including full intercourse).
-includes an extra sugar baby.
-Dinner Date for an hour and a half.
-an hour of pleasure.
-include foreplay (accessories included ex: handcuffs whip ect.).
Presidential Package.
(Base Pay of $6000).
-Includes everything in the Exclusive Package.
-includes an hour and a half of intercourse.
-includes watching me and 1 or 2 (additional charges) sugar baby's have intercourse and touching while watching.
Freaking wow! LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marc2020;4353478]SFG is the fucking best. Just love her.[/QUOTE]SFG loves dick. 5 hundo is a bit much though. I saw her for a lot less, like a lot less. But either way she was super fun.
Can someone link the Sarcaticfungirl or PM me the info?
Thanks much!
[QUOTE=HBadger;4353876]SFG loves dick. 5 hundo is a bit much though. I saw her for a lot less, like a lot less. But either way she was super fun.[/QUOTE]I loved my time with her too and paid a lot less (but that was also a while back) . Her latest photos show some weight gain, and I prefer petite spinners. That is the only reason I have not seen her again. She is passionate, loves what she does and like GingerFetish does this because she loves to, not for the money.
[QUOTE=MikeJMikeJ;4353927]Can someone link the Sarcaticfungirl or PM me the info?
Thanks much![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fa3ad252-99e7-2cfb-40d1-33160ee74867[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;4354262]I loved my time with her too and paid a lot less (but that was also a while back) . Her latest photos show some weight gain, and I prefer petite spinners. That is the only reason I have not seen her again. She is passionate, loves what she does and like GingerFetish does this because she loves to, not for the money.[/QUOTE]Is Gingerfetish still around? It looks like her profile on SA has been deactivated.
[QUOTE=HardWoodsman;4355449]Is Gingerfetish still around? It looks like her profile on SA has been deactivated.[/QUOTE]She was here at the end of May. Seems she spends a lot of time in South Carolina. If you have her number, text every once in a while and she will let you know when she returns.
[QUOTE=HardWoodsman;4355449]Is Gingerfetish still around? It looks like her profile on SA has been deactivated.[/QUOTE]I remember seeing her profile a while back while I was still on SA. Her BJ's get so sloppy. She's such a fun time.
Can anyone host before noon today in north end of Sea for non-pro who is 100 percent amateur soccer mom. She is very attractive, multiple cummer, loves to such cocks and take loads in all her holes. She just texted and said she was super horny. I need someone that can host, and maybe one more in a nice place, non sketchy. Only professional, non smoker, non drug user, clean and disease free. She is leaving work early and has about an hour free this morning. Plan B might be she goes to an adult theater. PM me.
Wish I'd seen this sooner.
[QUOTE=Pryor454;4355924]Can anyone host before noon today in north end of Sea for non-pro who is 100 percent amateur soccer mom. She is very attractive, multiple cummer, loves to such cocks and take loads in all her holes. She just texted and said she was super horny. I need someone that can host, and maybe one more in a nice place, non sketchy. Only professional, non smoker, non drug user, clean and disease free. She is leaving work early and has about an hour free this morning. Plan B might be she goes to an adult theater. PM me.[/QUOTE]
Any info? Something about her look just does it for me.
If she's open to bb would anyone be willing to share contact info? I'm not able to sign up due to my living arrangements. And shared bank accounts. .
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4c6ac098-bd5a-4a71-9bb1-001788a1bc51[/URL]
I'm interested in meeting the young girls who are of age 30 and below. Can someone provide 4-5 suggestions? I'm primarily looking for good physical intimacy and less drama.
Okay, which one of you are out there setting the market for these 20-somethings that allows them to think this a market norm? Made contact with a 24-year old. Weekly dates like dinner, movies, or events (presumably on the SD nickel), plus "intimacy, if you like" for $750 ppm. If you want to move to a monthly arrangement, it's $3 k. Thankfully this was over text, so I did not snort coffee across the table at her. After I recovered, wished her luck in her search, but I am definitely not what she is looking for!
Ridiculous, glad you didn't meet.
You can usually tell a lot without meeting. I got fooled once by a clever scammer, but when we met the negative vibes coming off that ***** sent me running the other way.
Just had lunch with an incredibly HOTT 21-year-old who is just sweet as cherry pie. Had a great conversation and when the check came she offered to pay her share. Fuck me. Just needs help with her bills. Of course I paid for both of us and set the next date. Wasn't even intending to meet anyone new but her profile reached out and grabbed me. Fuck she's so cute and sweet!
Went straight from there and pumped 3 loads BB into my existing SB. Life is good.
As others have advised if they start talking money straight away then drop them. I guess the advice is different if you're looking to hit it and quit it, but I'm finding that having actual sugar babies is fucking amazing. Definitely going to try and add this latest sweetheart on our next date. I just really need someone to put more days into the week, LOL.
I'm intentionally vague about specific scheduling, tell them I just want to be their boyfriend so we can go out or get down and dirty whenever we have time. So far this has worked wonders. As others have mentioned being really good at eating pussy helps immensely. Apparently most dudes are not that good from what girls tell me. Having a nice big cock always helps. And if you want a girl to be sweet you need to be sweet yourself. The sweetheart I just had lunch with hates going out with guys her age because they are fucking assholes. Well lucky for me I'm not a fucking asshole. They must truly be shitty dudes because I'm an old ugly bastard and I'm awash in pussy. Can't even imagine what it would be like to be young, handsome, and sweet in this day and age - WOW
[QUOTE=Diver6390;4359754]Okay, which one of you are out there setting the market for these 20-somethings that allows them to think this a market norm? Made contact with a 24-year old. Weekly dates like dinner, movies, or events (presumably on the SD nickel), plus "intimacy, if you like" for $750 ppm. If you want to move to a monthly arrangement, it's $3 k. Thankfully this was over text, so I did not snort coffee across the table at her. After I recovered, wished her luck in her search, but I am definitely not what she is looking for![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RawDogger;4359212]Any info? Something about her look just does it for me.
If she's open to bb would anyone be willing to share contact info? I'm not able to sign up due to my living arrangements. And shared bank accounts. .
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4c6ac098-bd5a-4a71-9bb1-001788a1bc51[/URL][/QUOTE]I do not have much details because our conversation did not last long. She is looking for an experienced dom. She contacted me because I describe myself as a dominant lover she wanted to know if so have actual experience on the SDM world, she was not interested when I replied no.
[QUOTE=Diver6390;4359754]Okay, which one of you are out there setting the market for these 20-somethings that allows them to think this a market norm? Made contact with a 24-year old. Weekly dates like dinner, movies, or events (presumably on the SD nickel), plus "intimacy, if you like" for $750 ppm. If you want to move to a monthly arrangement, it's $3 k. Thankfully this was over text, so I did not snort coffee across the table at her. After I recovered, wished her luck in her search, but I am definitely not what she is looking for![/QUOTE]The funniest one was when a girl told me, "I have old millionaires trying to comepete for me so make a good offer" lmao I'm not going to compete for no one on that site and two fuck no lmao I told her, I'm not going to do this good luck on your search.
[QUOTE=DelToro;4360016]I do not have much details because our conversation did not last long. She is looking for an experienced dom. She contacted me because I describe myself as a dominant lover she wanted to know if so have actual experience on the SDM world, she was not interested when I replied no.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's enough info. I'd have the same answer for her. Though I'd enjoy ordering her around, LOL.
[QUOTE=Diver6390;4359754]Okay, which one of you are out there setting the market for these 20-somethings that allows them to think this a market norm? Made contact with a 24-year old. Weekly dates like dinner, movies, or events (presumably on the SD nickel), plus "intimacy, if you like" for $750 ppm. If you want to move to a monthly arrangement, it's $3 k. Thankfully this was over text, so I did not snort coffee across the table at her. After I recovered, wished her luck in her search, but I am definitely not what she is looking for![/QUOTE]I always offer the same amount $200-$250 a date depending on the girl. Most will say something like "well normally I ask for $500 but you are so sweet, nice, etc" blah blah blah sure you ask but only suckers pay that much.
About 30% say they want $500 and won't accept less. I reply politely and wish them well. Now, of this 30%, almost every one of them comes back within 1-2 weeks and says they're ok trying it at my rate because I'm a nice guy, not a scammer, etc.
What's the lesson here? Offer first, stick to your guns, and the pussy will come back to you.
Any intel on this lady:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0c5a2021-a2f3-4e73-8037-433bab31e7ed[/URL]
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=VanDawg;4361861]I always offer the same amount $200-$250 a date depending on the girl. Most will say something like "well normally I ask for $500 but you are so sweet, nice, etc" blah blah blah sure you ask but only suckers pay that much.
About 30% say they want $500 and won't accept less. I reply politely and wish them well. Now, of this 30%, almost every one of them comes back within 1-2 weeks and says they're ok trying it at my rate because I'm a nice guy, not a scammer, etc.
What's the lesson here? Offer first, stick to your guns, and the pussy will come back to you.[/QUOTE]My most recent contact went something like this.
"What's your KIK Id?
"I don't use my phone that much and don't have a KIK ID, you can text me. ".
10 minutes later.
"Here is a picture of me" (picture of her in a bikini).
"You look incredible, what type of allowance are you looking for?
"Right now, I'm charging $75 for pictures and video. If you want to meet me, it's $300. ".
"I'm not in the slightest bit interested in pictures or video, but I'll pay $300 to meet you. ".
silence and 3 days later, still no response.