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[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;6338698]Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf[/QUOTE]Lets hope Virginia doesn't become Texas. 3 years ago Dallas has over 50 AMPs that all featured Asians in their 20's who would all do BBFS for less that a NOVA price here. The state legislature passed a law that made solicitation a felony and all the AMPs went away. I really enjoyed visiting Dallas but no more. I have some good memories of a 90 pound spinner in a room with a connecting bath for two hours of BBFSCIP fucking and soapy bath for $$.

[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;6338698]Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf[/QUOTE]They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.

[QUOTE=JayCramer80;6338813]They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.[/QUOTE]Making it legal. Getting the facts. None of it matters. It's a bastardization of our "puritan" American values.

I'd like to imagine a world where it's made legal too. They could eliminate tipping altogether so it's no longer a proposition of sex for money. Instead it's an exchange of servicies a simple business transaction.

"I'd like the platinum spa package please". Massage and FS included at a fixed price, what a dream. But it will never happen.

The real tragedy is the fact that our tax money will go towards this stupid crusade, when it could be put towards our education system. Ya know, to educate these clowns.

[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;6338698]Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf[/QUOTE]They have blown their horn on this human trafficking and massage business stuff before and it seems the only places that get rolled up are the apartment "spas" and massage businesses that don't have proper licensing / any providers who have no license. The previous VA governor administration and regional task force had also touted the illicit massage parlor stuff regarding human trafficking. Based on past public news on arrests / shutdowns, Chinese parlors seem to be the ones who are often rolled-up. Korean MPs run a tight ship and have their business and massage licensing in order. Having said all that, if anyone feels like they don't want to get caught up in a arrest operation, just visit an AMP on a weekend, I never heard of LE conducting busts on the weekend, especially on a Sunday. Maybe avoid the Asian hotel / apartment girls since I would think LE could easily pick those off as easy low hanging fruit.

Dallas used to have an AMP scene that makes NOVA look like 3rd grade. Then the state legislature made solicitation a felony offense and the whole thing shut down. If Va does that then it's all over.

[QUOTE=GripNSip;6338831]It's a bastardization of our "puritan" American values.[/QUOTE]Yet these same women can create Only Fans accounts and sell sex that way. So much for our puritan American values.

All of a sudden its a problem when insertion happens.

Glenn Youngkin 2023 = Josh Hawley 2017.

[URL]https://reason.com/2020/07/14/sen-josh-hawley-says-he-took-on-an-asian-trafficking-ring-and-freed-a-dozen-women-in-sex-slavery-thats-not-true/[/URL]

Just going to leave this here.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/02/16/average-penis-length-has-grown-doctors-call-it-concerning/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BenDhover;6332137]Cute. Written after you blow your load on the floor of an ACS.[/QUOTE]What's the point of that other than to ignore and minimize actual sex trafficking? No, I don't frequent ACS / LCS and not because every place is some sort of slavery den but because I want to be safe and avoid the chance of engaging in a trafficking. If you've found an ACS or LCS that you trust, then that's great. Everybody should do that.

Are you that jaded to think that you can't have morals in this hobby? Or maybe this is how you justify your own behavior by saying that "everyone does it" and taking advantage of women so you can save a couple of bucks? I'd rather pay a premium at a place I trust to do things ethically. But hey, who knows. Maybe next, you'll tell me that it's "cute" to tell guys not to roofie girls.

[QUOTE=JayCramer80;6338813]They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.[/QUOTE]You're over generalizing here, and I think a lot of people need to educate themselves on this topic. The power a trafficker may hold over a victim may never be violent or physical. Its often financial or psychological (ex. A promise of higher paying jobs). The trauma can be so great that the victim may not even think they're a victim, or be to scared to report their trafficker. Even forced labor in a completely legit massage parlor is considered human trafficking.

[QUOTE=PJ268;6340492]You're over generalizing here, and I think a lot of people need to educate themselves on this topic. The power a trafficker may hold over a victim may never be violent or physical. Its often financial or psychological (ex. A promise of higher paying jobs). The trauma can be so great that the victim may not even think they're a victim, or be to scared to report their trafficker. Even forced labor in a completely legit massage parlor is considered human trafficking.[/QUOTE]The victim is so well off they don't think they're a victim? Why are you here if you even think that, every sex worker is a victim then.

Been doing this for years, Many of these women who do massage, especially the older women work voluntarily for the money because with their limited skills, to make this much money in China is impossible. I do not rule out that China is the biggest franchise corporation in America, but I don't know for sure. Many women in the business come and go from place to place, knowing they will be underground except when they go to Flushing. Remember,the Chinese do not think like we do,these women are singularly focused and actually do not like Americans, with exceptions of course. So, new parlors keep opening and people are making money. If you find a good girl, get her number, you may have some fun in and out of the shop but rarely does it last for long. Everybody uses everybody, go have fun.

[QUOTE=TravlinMonger;6350310]Been doing this for years, Many of these women who do massage, especially the older women work voluntarily for the money because with their limited skills, to make this much money in China is impossible. I do not rule out that China is the biggest franchise corporation in America, but I don't know for sure. Many women in the business come and go from place to place, knowing they will be underground except when they go to Flushing. Remember,the Chinese do not think like we do,these women are singularly focused and actually do not like Americans, with exceptions of course. So, new parlors keep opening and people are making money. If you find a good girl, get her number, you may have some fun in and out of the shop but rarely does it last for long. Everybody uses everybody, go have fun.[/QUOTE]Not always the case for the older woman. Why I prefer independents that work out their home! More than likely are doing this under their own moral choice! Not all of them have limited skills! Ms Virginia is a college graduate and fluent in English grammar better than most Americans! It's just about money and morally except it! Your right about tne fun in and out of the shop and not lasting- ALL to WELL.

You would hope it wouldn't need to be said, but perhaps it does LOL. Along with never sending money in advance, a good policy is never give your SB the code to your hotel safe. Looks like someone in Vegas just got bitten bad by doing so.

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50 K from 'sugar daddy's' hotel safe.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-woman-left-u2-184709983.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=NovaDaddy69;6650603]You would hope it wouldn't need to be said, but perhaps it does LOL. Along with never sending money in advance, a good policy is never give your SB the code to your hotel safe. Looks like someone in Vegas just got bitten bad by doing so.

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50 K from 'sugar daddy's' hotel safe.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-woman-left-u2-184709983.html[/URL][/QUOTE]While I'm glad they caught & charged her, the victim's also a moron for 1) Trusting her with his safe code, and 2) Paying thousands for her company and nothing else. And going off her mugshot, I daresay he could have found other SBs that were so much hotter and with a more open menu. Being in his 50's is not old enough for him to claim senility.

No wonder Seeking is chockful of scammers, dashers, and platonic SBs infected with GPS. I mean why would some put in the effort & spread their legs when they can sucker dumb shits like the aforementioned guy or offer simple platonic company for 500,800, 1 K, etc? Easy money by taking the path of least resistance, and I don't blame them.