Cassidy is right on the mark. Couldn't agree more. And on top of that we should treat them all properly and with respect.
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Cassidy is right on the mark. Couldn't agree more. And on top of that we should treat them all properly and with respect.
General question for the mongers. How do you discretely pay the ladies without the spouse finding out. My wife manages all the finances. A single ATM withdraw, whether it's $50 or $300 is met with tons of questions. I've used the debit card at retail outlets and gotten some "cash back" on the transaction, but even that gets some questions at home. Would love to learn some tricks of the trade. The funds are available in our joint bank account, just can't figure out how to pull some cash out without it showing up on the bank statement or other. Anyone ever use Venmo Looking at my Venmo transactions, it's pretty vanilla and wife doesn't see it, other than what shows on the bank statement as a venmo payment. I can BS around that since it doesn't show who it went to on the bank statement.
[QUOTE=AngelsMan;7362615]General question for the mongers. How do you discretely pay the ladies without the spouse finding out. My wife manages all the finances. A single ATM withdraw, whether it's $50 or $300 is met with tons of questions. I've used the debit card at retail outlets and gotten some "cash back" on the transaction, but even that gets some questions at home. Would love to learn some tricks of the trade. The funds are available in our joint bank account, just can't figure out how to pull some cash out without it showing up on the bank statement or other. Anyone ever use Venmo Looking at my Venmo transactions, it's pretty vanilla and wife doesn't see it, other than what shows on the bank statement as a venmo payment. I can BS around that since it doesn't show who it went to on the bank statement.[/QUOTE]A few thoughts. First, I would never, under any circumstances, use an electronic payment method in the hobby. Why create a paper trail for LE or a forensic auditor if shit goes sideways in your marriage? Second, if you have a spouse who watches the money I think you'd want a multifaceted approach. Start with using cash in your day to day life more regularly. I am hearing a lot of people say they are using more cash because of the ridiculous tipping culture that has sprung up. Qdoba wants a tip, Chipotle doesn't. Can anyone explain to me what the difference in service is? Little Caesars seriously asks for a tip on a Hot-and-Ready? Fuck that, pay cash; tell your wife you are sick of getting asked to "answer the question. " Advanced mongering gets into an extra bank account and having direct deposits funneled to that account. If she watches your pay closely, set it up when there is a raise, COLA or during open enrollment when insurance changes. Make sure to have the bank statements sent to your office or some other place your wife never goes. Don't trust them not to mail stuff to the house if you give them your actual address.
[QUOTE=AngelsMan;7362615]General question for the mongers. How do you discretely pay the ladies without the spouse finding out. My wife manages all the finances. A single ATM withdraw, whether it's $50 or $300 is met with tons of questions. I've used the debit card at retail outlets and gotten some "cash back" on the transaction, but even that gets some questions at home. Would love to learn some tricks of the trade. The funds are available in our joint bank account, just can't figure out how to pull some cash out without it showing up on the bank statement or other. Anyone ever use Venmo Looking at my Venmo transactions, it's pretty vanilla and wife doesn't see it, other than what shows on the bank statement as a venmo payment. I can BS around that since it doesn't show who it went to on the bank statement.[/QUOTE]Go to take cash out and go to the casino. Great way to get the money from your bank account to your wallet without asking any questions.
I looked up Milan on the Michigan Offender site and it says she is on probation. Is that accurate?
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;7362935]I looked up Milan on the Michigan Offender site and it says she is on probation. Is that accurate?[/QUOTE]No.
Look up Kent county web jail viewer.
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;7362935]I looked up Milan on the Michigan Offender site and it says she is on probation. Is that accurate?[/QUOTE]Kent County shows In Custody as of Today. Release date in May 2026.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;7363051]Kent County shows In Custody as of Today. Release date in May 2026.[/QUOTE]Michigan Offender must be wrong.
[QUOTE=WaltK;7362807]A few thoughts. First, I would never, under any circumstances, use an electronic payment method in the hobby. Why create a paper trail for LE or a forensic auditor if shit goes sideways in your marriage? Second, if you have a spouse who watches the money I think you'd want a multifaceted approach. Start with using cash in your day to day life more regularly. I am hearing a lot of people say they are using more cash because of the ridiculous tipping culture that has sprung up. Qdoba wants a tip, Chipotle doesn't. Can anyone explain to me what the difference in service is? Little Caesars seriously asks for a tip on a Hot-and-Ready? Fuck that, pay cash; tell your wife you are sick of getting asked to "answer the question. " Advanced mongering gets into an extra bank account and having direct deposits funneled to that account. If she watches your pay closely, set it up when there is a raise, COLA or during open enrollment when insurance changes. Make sure to have the bank statements sent to your office or some other place your wife never goes. Don't trust them not to mail stuff to the house if you give them your actual address.[/QUOTE]Awesome points, casino trip too is great. Fantasy football dues coming soon too! Anything you do to get cash without question is key. Opening your own bank account draws scrutiny but if you go green on notifications you can hopefully keep the card hidden. Online casinos usually offer some good deposit bonuses or perks but read the rules closely. Bar trips add up too, tell your wife you take cash to limit what you drink, only have a beer and pocket the rest. Healthy habits and money for pussy!
Curious if anyone has had experience with a former or current pornstar as an escort and would be willing to give a suggestion or advice. Was it worth it? I have done some leg work and found a few in areas I am traveling soon. It's a bucket list for me just not sure if paying the $600-800 is worth it. I fear I already know the answer but I am keeping my fingers crossed!
[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7365045]Curious if anyone has had experience with a former or current pornstar as an escort and would be willing to give a suggestion or advice. Was it worth it? I have done some leg work and found a few in areas I am traveling soon. It's a bucket list for me just not sure if paying the $600-800 is worth it. I fear I already know the answer but I am keeping my fingers crossed![/QUOTE]I saw Zara Brooks a few years ago and was not at all disappointed. I'm sure it's YMMV, depending on the lady.
Wouldn't call her a star but Megan Piper used to work at Serenity. I saw her there once and at her hotel room. The last time I saw her she made me wait about 30 min past our agreed time. As I was leaving she texted and convinced me to come back. Got BBBJ and covered FS then we chatted for a while. Was maybe 300 or so I believe and I was there for a little over an hr. Haven't seen her post in probably a year or so.
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph601a90654f387[/URL]
[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7365045]Curious if anyone has had experience with a former or current pornstar as an escort and would be willing to give a suggestion or advice. Was it worth it? I have done some leg work and found a few in areas I am traveling soon. It's a bucket list for me just not sure if paying the $600-800 is worth it. I fear I already know the answer but I am keeping my fingers crossed![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7363232]Awesome points, casino trip too is great. Fantasy football dues coming soon too! Anything you do to get cash without question is key. Opening your own bank account draws scrutiny but if you go green on notifications you can hopefully keep the card hidden. Online casinos usually offer some good deposit bonuses or perks but read the rules closely. Bar trips add up too, tell your wife you take cash to limit what you drink, only have a beer and pocket the rest. Healthy habits and money for pussy![/QUOTE]To add a few from experience. No order.
1) Hobby phone should be buried in your golf bag, or down the street under a rock at the park you take your dog for a walk. Toss the ball around and set up your meetings.
2) Transfer cash to savings and use that cash to buy your wife flowers and other items. I spent $50 on those flowers. Blame it on tarriffs for the higher prices. Pocket the difference. In time she will be use to your withdrawals. Money spent for her, sort of. Then keep building your hobby funds. Again have the hobby funds in a safe place for yourself.
3) If you open an account send the statements to a fake email address for yourself. Have the account with 0 interest and suppress paper statements.
4) Go get your car fixed or oil changed in an area like Lansing or Jackson or other area where the hobby is good. Use the excuse that by driving X miles you saved Y money by paying cash at XYZ repair shop. Not kidding I made up a fake invoice and only had to show it once. "Honey oil change this week LOL". Best when I took her car. Explains you being gone for a half day as well.
5) If you play a sport / cards tell her you lost $$ on the golf / pickle ball match or card game. Minimize this excuse that you lost X with your best friend.
6) Get involved with a homeless shelter. No seriously. Spend time at the center and you gave a hundy to help the poor person there. For every real visit I make, there is a half day spent in the hobby.
7) Out chess maneuvering is half the fun for me in the hobby. Built up a dozen excuses, all legit, over time.
Sure others will provide better ideas.
Couple more…
8) Spare clothes in the trunk at all times in your workout bag. Shower at the gym if you go to an AMP with too much oil, or a provider that smokes.
9) Hobby during the workday, if possible. "Boss meeting with ABC customer over in GR or Detroit or wherever.
Hobby safe, get rid of all evidence of your "meeting". Use the big head so your little head will thank you.
Stay safe!
This is great advice. That's what I love about this forum. I can only add a few things:
1. Burner phone. I used to use a burner phone to text / call providers. Stashed it in a safe place. This works, but there is the anxiety of someone finding it. I have learned a better way. That is to use Google Voice. You can use GV to send texts from any computer or smart phone. Just open your web browser and login into your account at voice. [URL]google.com[/URL]. Obviously, you use a private browser. This will not save your username, password, and will delete your history when you close the browser. You can do this from your regular phone, desktop, and laptop. There is no trace. And you don't have to worry about having your burner phone around to communicate. Even if your SO looks through your phone there is no trace of anything as long as you remember to close the browser. Also, if you use Safari web browswer you can set the private mode to open only with face I'd. That way, in case you forget to close the browser, you know that no one else will be able to open it. Using Google Voice like this is 100% free. No need to add more minutes to your burner phone, which is a pain because the payment will show up on a bill. Or if you do it with cash, you have the inconvenience of going to the store. Additionally, by having two hobby numbers. GV plus your burner. You can use the second number to text incognito if you need to for Opsec. I have been using Google Voice almost exclusively for the last three months with no problems. The only issue I've encountered is you cannot make phone calls through the GV webpage using your regular smart phone. But 98% of all hobby communications is through text anyway, so that hasn't been a big problem.
2. Hobby Cash. If your SO scrutinizes your bank account, like mine, here is how I solved that problem. Take an interest in crypto. Tell your SO that you want to dabble in it with small amounts. Open a Coinbase account, which operates like an online bank but you can also make crypto transactions in it. Set up an automatic weekly withdraw from your checking to your Coinbase account. $75 per week. Something small that your SO will likely approve. But this will add up over time. Coinbase will issue you a debit card that you can use at an ATM. Use the ATM card to withdraw cash when you want to hobby. The transactions are buried in all your other trades. Even if your SO sees that you withdrew some cash, which is unlikely, you can just tell her that you wanted to go to the casino, or play a home power game, or something like that. Set up the Coinbase account so that you are the only account owner, and that you only know the login info. Buy a handful of cryptos. These are actually good investments. Just look at Bitcoin's dramatic climb over the last 10 years. You can make money on crypto trades, and then withdraw cash when you want to hobby. No statements are generated. You will get a 1099 at the end of the year, but there will be so many transactions on it that your cash withdrawals will be buried.
[QUOTE=HapHunter;7365440]To add a few from experience. No order.
1) Hobby phone should be buried in your golf bag, or down the street under a rock at the park you take your dog for a walk. Toss the ball around and set up your meetings.
2) Transfer cash to savings and use that cash to buy your wife flowers and other items. I spent $50 on those flowers. Blame it on tarriffs for the higher prices. Pocket the difference. In time she will be use to your withdrawals. Money spent for her, sort of. Then keep building your hobby funds. Again have the hobby funds in a safe place for yourself.
3) If you open an account send the statements to a fake email address for yourself. Have the account with 0 interest and suppress paper statements.
4) Go get your car fixed or oil changed in an area like Lansing or Jackson or other area where the hobby is good. Use the excuse that by driving X miles you saved Y money by paying cash at XYZ repair shop. Not kidding I made up a fake invoice and only had to show it once. "Honey oil change this week LOL". Best when I took her car. Explains you being gone for a half day as well.
5) If you play a sport / cards tell her you lost $$ on the golf / pickle ball match or card game. Minimize this excuse that you lost X with your best friend.
6) Get involved with a homeless shelter. No seriously. Spend time at the center and you gave a hundy to help the poor person there. For every real visit I make, there is a half day spent in the hobby.
7) Out chess maneuvering is half the fun for me in the hobby. Built up a dozen excuses, all legit, over time.
Sure others will provide better ideas.
Couple more
8) Spare clothes in the trunk at all times in your workout bag. Shower at the gym if you go to an AMP with too much oil, or a provider that smokes.
9) Hobby during the workday, if possible. "Boss meeting with ABC customer over in GR or Detroit or wherever.
Hobby safe, get rid of all evidence of your "meeting". Use the big head so your little head will thank you.
Stay safe![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;7365767]This is great advice. That's what I love about this forum. I can only add a few things:
1. Burner phone. I used to use a burner phone to text / call providers. Stashed it in a safe place. This works, but there is the anxiety of someone finding it. I have learned a better way. That is to use Google Voice. You can use GV to send texts from any computer or smart phone. Just open your web browser and login into your account at voice. [URL]google.com[/URL]. Obviously, you use a private browser. This will not save your username, password, and will delete your history when you close the browser. You can do this from your regular phone, desktop, and laptop. There is no trace. And you don't have to worry about having your burner phone around to communicate. Even if your SO looks through your phone there is no trace of anything as long as you remember to close the browser. Also, if you use Safari web browswer you can set the private mode to open only with face I'd. That way, in case you forget to close the browser, you know that no one else will be able to open it. Using Google Voice like this is 100% free. No need to add more minutes to your burner phone, which is a pain because the payment will show up on a bill. Or if you do it with cash, you have the inconvenience of going to the store. Additionally, by having two hobby numbers. GV plus your burner. You can use the second number to text incognito if you need to for Opsec. I have been using Google Voice almost exclusively for the last three months with no problems. The only issue I've encountered is you cannot make phone calls through the GV webpage using your regular smart phone. But 98% of all hobby communications is through text anyway, so that hasn't been a big problem.
2. Hobby Cash. If your SO scrutinizes your bank account, like mine, here is how I solved that problem. Take an interest in crypto. Tell your SO that you want to dabble in it with small amounts. Open a Coinbase account, which operates like an online bank but you can also make crypto transactions in it. Set up an automatic weekly withdraw from your checking to your Coinbase account. $75 per week. Something small that your SO will likely approve. But this will add up over time. Coinbase will issue you a debit card that you can use at an ATM. Use the ATM card to withdraw cash when you want to hobby. The transactions are buried in all your other trades. Even if your SO sees that you withdrew some cash, which is unlikely, you can just tell her that you wanted to go to the casino, or play a home power game, or something like that. Set up the Coinbase account so that you are the only account owner, and that you only know the login info. Buy a handful of cryptos. These are actually good investments. Just look at Bitcoin's dramatic climb over the last 10 years. You can make money on crypto trades, and then withdraw cash when you want to hobby. No statements are generated. You will get a 1099 at the end of the year, but there will be so many transactions on it that your cash withdrawals will be buried.[/QUOTE]I totally agree about Google Voice. I've been using for two years with no problems at all. I use the app and make sure the notifications are turned off for the app so nothing "appears" when you have messages. You just have to remember to open the app and check for messages. I usually delete the message history after I am dialoging with a provider so there is nothing for a SO to see if they happen to even look. No cost at all for Google Voice.