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[QUOTE=NotANewbie;3097996]Need some help. What is best "pay as you go " option that doesn't require identification.[/QUOTE]Not sure if its the best, but I got a $20 "smart" phone and enough talk, text, data for 2-3 months from Tracfone at Walmart. The data plan was another $20 I think. It is a far cry from being easy to use but is cheap and works for texts which is all I really care about. I have not called a provider yet but I know that some do set up meetings with calls rather than texts.
[QUOTE=NotANewbie;3097996]Need some help. What is best "pay as you go " option that doesn't require identification.[/QUOTE]Go to Walmart, buy the phone and minutes for cash. I got an LG smartphone, old G3, that triples the minutes. I buy 60 minutes for $20 and get credited for 180. When register, just use fictitious data. Untraceable. One other technique for for those with a significant other, never bring it to the house. I store mine at my office. Stay Safe.
[QUOTE=NotANewbie;3097996]Need some help. What is best "pay as you go " option that doesn't require identification.[/QUOTE]I use the TracFone LG flip phone. Texting is a pain but the phone includes double minutes for life.
Paid by cash at Walmart for $15. Reload cards are available at many different grocery and convenience stores.
[URL]http://www.tracfone-orders.com/bpdirect/tracfone/PhoneDetails.do?action=view&_ga=1.30776444.2122801486.1473791158&productVariantExtensionId=38467647[/URL]
[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3098084]Go to Walmart, buy the phone and minutes for cash. I got an LG smartphone, old G3, that triples the minutes. I buy 60 minutes for $20 and get credited for 180. When register, just use fictitious data. Untraceable. One other technique for for those with a significant other, never bring it to the house. I store mine at my office. Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]Yep, FMMichaels got a better deal.
Triple minutes:
[URL]http://www.tracfone-orders.com/bpdirect/tracfone/PhoneDetails.do?action=view&_ga=1.142028722.1242582607.1457280448&productVariantExtensionId=28776822[/URL]
Hello Everyone,
There is a lot of useful info on here and as a newbie I want to say I appreciate it. Continuing on the path of staying safe can some of you guys tell me some things I should do or say to know if I'm dealing with LE. Any help would be appreciated. Please free to pm me if you want. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
Nate.
[QUOTE=NateRater;3098385]Hello Everyone,
There is a lot of useful info on here and as a newbie I want to say I appreciate it. Continuing on the path of staying safe can some of you guys tell me some things I should do or say to know if I'm dealing with LE. Any help would be appreciated. Please free to pm me if you want. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
Nate.[/QUOTE]I'm a new Monger myself, so let me share some things I've picked up. Fellow mongers can correct me if I am wrong:
1. The first step to stay safe is finding providers who are reviewed by other people like us. That verifies they are legit. Once you know they're legit, you start to worry about the other stuff, specifically 1) donation amount, and 2) if they good at hanging out, or not. When I first started out, I was only using [URL]TheEroticReview.com[/URL] to verify and see reviews. But recently I discovered this site, EroticMonkey and Escort Babylon. That makes 4 good sites where people post real reviews, giving you tons of providers who have reviews, some of which have many. Take your time and start with these. The sites are different, and each ones has its strengths. Using all 4 combined will help you cross-reference and get the best / biggest picture possible.
2. Just use your gut. If anything seems weird, back away. And it's not just LE stuff, it also might be walking into an unsafe place, etc. , or getting ripped off. I recently contacted someone on BP who had no reviews whatsoever on any site. But a lot on her page made me feel safe. She had an ad up saying that any donation was her time only, nothing else. I feel like LE would never say this or else they would have no case. The ad also had a lot of stipulations -- "no thugs, no negotiation, no Greek, NOTHING DISCUSSED OVER PHONE" -- that sort of thing. There is no reason for an LE trap ad to have a bunch of specifics and "I don'ts," such as "I don't see anyone of (such-and-such ethnicity) or (such-and-such age range). ".
[QUOTE=NateRater;3098385]Hello Everyone,
There is a lot of useful info on here and as a newbie I want to say I appreciate it. Continuing on the path of staying safe can some of you guys tell me some things I should do or say to know if I'm dealing with LE. Any help would be appreciated. Please free to pm me if you want. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
Nate.[/QUOTE]Here's what I do, and I'd appreciate any input, m thoughts or comments from others. Are there any lawyers who can chime in?
If I'm with a new girl who doesn't have any reviews here on USA (I trust this site), before any money comes out of my pocket I ask if she's a cop. Of course, the answer will be "no" and I assure them that I'm not one either. In my limited understanding of the law, that does NOT protect us, but I ask anyway just to see what kind of reaction I get. Sometimes I'll ask that question when I'm on the phone with her making the date. Once I arrive, some girls will start undressing right away which I take a good sign. I take my time getting undressed waiting for them to bare their tits and / or pussy, at which point I assume everything is safe. Again, in my understanding of the law a cop would not get naked in order to facilitate a bust because that could be--probably WOULD be--viewed as entrapment.
In another scenario, if she does not start undressing and, perhaps, we're doing some small talk and getting to know one another, that's when I'll ask if she's a cop and when I get the "no" answer, I'll suggest we prove it to each other. Sometimes I'll just stand up, drop my drawers and let my cock hang out and then repeat, "I'm not a cop" and I wait to get her reaction. Some girls have stood up, pulled up their top to show me their tits, some have dropped their pants to show me their pussy and some have grabbed my cock and given me a few strokes. At that point, I'm satisfied that everything is safe. Again, I highly doubt a cop would do any of those things.
I've never been in a situation where one of those scenarios did NOT unfold, so I have no experience on what to do in that situation. I suppose I'd just say I don't feel safe and I'd leave.
Like I said before, I've used the Dayton-based agency Discreet Desires several times and been happy. High donation amounts, but clean, attractive women. Been pleased.
A lot of people on here talk about EE. Never used them before but hope to, as I get more comfortable with incalls.
Just a quick heads up: Another local agency that turns up in a search would be Escorts Incognito, and I don't think that agency is running anymore as of Sept 2016.
[URL]http://www.escortsincognito.com[/URL]
I saw a few of their girls in the early summer 2016 and was pleased. Then some stuff started to happen real quick that got iffy -- a few girls quit at once, but their info was still on the website, which is weird. Then a few of their new girls also left for other agencies and indie work, and told me that the woman who was running the show basically stopped answering her phone. I don't know what it all means. I know most Mongers on here seem to be looking through BP and USA and CL. But if you're like me and also like some outcalls with agency girls, I would just warn you that I don't think this agency is running anymore, even though the website seems very much alive and legit.
Such a shame, too, because one of their providers, Alicia, was the hottest I've seen:
[URL]http://www.escortsincognito.com/alicia.html[/URL]
If anyone in Dayton ever comes across this girl doing upscale indie work, please let me know.
Meanwhile, stick to DD and EE for agency girls. (Remember that DD is based in Dayton, and EE in Cincinnati (NKY)).
[QUOTE=Kenal1;3099162]Here's what I do, and I'd appreciate any input, m thoughts or comments from others. Are there any lawyers who can chime in?
If I'm with a new girl who doesn't have any reviews here on USA (I trust this site), before any money comes out of my pocket I ask if she's a cop. Of course, the answer will be "no" and I assure them that I'm not one either. In my limited understanding of the law, that does NOT protect us, but I ask anyway just to see what kind of reaction I get. Sometimes I'll ask that question when I'm on the phone with her making the date. Once I arrive, some girls will start undressing right away which I take a good sign. I take my time getting undressed waiting for them to bare their tits and / or pussy, at which point I assume everything is safe. Again, in my understanding of the law a cop would not get naked in order to facilitate a bust because that could be--probably WOULD be--viewed as entrapment.
In another scenario, if she does not start undressing and, perhaps, we're doing some small talk and getting to know one another, that's when I'll ask if she's a cop and when I get the "no" answer, I'll suggest we prove it to each other. Sometimes I'll just stand up, drop my drawers and let my cock hang out and then repeat, "I'm not a cop" and I wait to get her reaction. Some girls have stood up, pulled up their top to show me their tits, some have dropped their pants to show me their pussy and some have grabbed my cock and given me a few strokes. At that point, I'm satisfied that everything is safe. Again, I highly doubt a cop would do any of those things.
I've never been in a situation where one of those scenarios did NOT unfold, so I have no experience on what to do in that situation. I suppose I'd just say I don't feel safe and I'd leave.[/QUOTE]Girl gets a call for outcall. Goes to the room. Dude is naked on the bed playing with himself. Tells her where the money is and proceeds to engage her. The second she complied he raises his voice to signal his buddies next door and in they come and arrest her; as has been told to me by a provider that was busted.
This continues like assembly line work until they get the number of providers /quota they need or some other objective is met.
IMHO, the easy part is never mention money and never mention acts. More difficult for LEO to make a case in this instance. Yous are practically girl friend and boy friend at that point. Obviously the hard part is knowing what you're getting when nothing can be discussed.
Anyone try Emmy from Flawless or julieta from MiamiDolls? Ads posted on Eros, just curious if any local buds have partaken and have thoughts to share.
Any info on Jemma Jade? She looks hot!! Did she go under another name previously?
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
WM.
[QUOTE=TechComHudson;3099197]Like I said before, I've used the Dayton-based agency Discreet Desires several times and been happy. High donation amounts, but clean, attractive women. Been pleased.
A lot of people on here talk about EE. Never used them before but hope to, as I get more comfortable with incalls.
Just a quick heads up: Another local agency that turns up in a search would be Escorts Incognito, and I don't think that agency is running anymore as of Sept 2016.
[URL]http://www.escortsincognito.com[/URL]
I saw a few of their girls in the early summer 2016 and was pleased. Then some stuff started to happen real quick that got iffy -- a few girls quit at once, but their info was still on the website, which is weird. Then a few of their new girls also left for other agencies and indie work, and told me that the woman who was running the show basically stopped answering her phone. I don't know what it all means. I know most Mongers on here seem to be looking through BP and USA and CL. But if you're like me and also like some outcalls with agency girls, I would just warn you that I don't think this agency is running anymore, even though the website seems very much alive and legit.
Such a shame, too, because one of their providers, Alicia, was the hottest I've seen:
[URL]http://www.escortsincognito.com/alicia.html[/URL]
If anyone in Dayton ever comes across this girl doing upscale indie work, please let me know.
Meanwhile, stick to DD and EE for agency girls. (Remember that DD is based in Dayton, and EE in Cincinnati (NKY)).[/QUOTE]I know and used ee multiple times what is DD? Pm me if needed, cinci trip is far.
[QUOTE=NateRater;3098385]Hello Everyone,
There is a lot of useful info on here and as a newbie I want to say I appreciate it. Continuing on the path of staying safe can some of you guys tell me some things I should do or say to know if I'm dealing with LE. Any help would be appreciated. Please free to pm me if you want. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
Nate.[/QUOTE]If I am meeting with an unreviewed gal I have them send a pic. If they won't do that, saying they never send nude pics, I punt. Obviously, if they send it, that is no guarantee but I make sure they send a pic showing nudity and their face must be in the pic or what's the point.
[QUOTE=NateRater;3098385]Hello Everyone,
There is a lot of useful info on here and as a newbie I want to say I appreciate it. Continuing on the path of staying safe can some of you guys tell me some things I should do or say to know if I'm dealing with LE. Any help would be appreciated. Please free to pm me if you want. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
Nate.[/QUOTE]Until you earn your stripes, suggest you stick to well-known, well-reviewed girls with a substantial history of being responsive, reasonably priced with good attitude and performance. Avoid the ones with a history of significant legal and substance abuse problems.
[QUOTE=WelderMan162;3103529]Any info on Jemma Jade? She looks hot!! Did she go under another name previously?
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
WM.[/QUOTE]She's gorgeous IMHO and loves to please. Normal rules apply, she's especially into dirty talking and a lot of fun. She may not be in everyone's budget but I plan to repeat. Searching should get you some info as well as anoThER site for more reviews.