Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6150167]So this is random, but does anyone know how to go deep into the archives here? I was curious the actual date I met Thalia. For how long exactly have I been obsessing over her? But there seems to be a limit to how far back the search goes. Couldn't figure out how to find my first post about her.[/QUOTE]I think I solved this mystery while looking for something a while back. If you search under your handle and "see forum posts" they only save the last 200.8 pages at 25 per page. Your posts are still there in the frums however. If you made a post in 2007 that was 1400 posts back for you it's still there you'll just have to search using different keywords to find it.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6150415]I got it!

Not that anyone cares but me, but I met her Feb 12, 2018.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?11470-USA-Adult-Classified-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3723414&viewfull=1#post3723414

What's a good five year anniversary gift for an ATF?[/QUOTE]I think a five hundo bonus is in order. She has certainly given you that much extra pleasure over the period. LOL! I have a favorite sugar baby I have been seeing as long or longer. Of course, I have made thoughtful gifts a regular part of our relationship. I'm not doing any cash bonuses.

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6152020]I think a five hundo bonus is in order. She has certainly given you that much extra pleasure over the period. LOL! I have a favorite sugar baby I have been seeing as long or longer. Of course, I have made thoughtful gifts a regular part of our relationship. I'm not doing any cash bonuses.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I'm going to need you to radically reduce how much you think is my income! LOL.

What is up with these rates? I realize inflation, and I know I've been away 7 years or so, but damn. The average was anywhere from $- 5 an hr with the $.5 normally being the better providers and if you went regularly $ for the hr. You could always find the. 7-$ but normally you knew why. Now the average asking is $$ for an hr. Why flip this for a nut or 2? It is not gold. I can understand $$ for the top shelf especially for a first visit nowadays, but no more. Yes I realize we can haggle, but then they normally don't preform as well. I just don't understand why they think a nut or 2 is worth so much, and why anyone is flipping these rates. Again it isn't that valuable no matter how good they are. Not many that are really top shelf either, yes some have good qualities, but nothing to command these asking rates.

[QUOTE=CanyonHunter;6155935]What is up with these rates? I realize inflation, and I know I've been away 7 years or so, but damn. The average was anywhere from $- 5 an hr with the $.5 normally being the better providers and if you went regularly $ for the hr. You could always find the. 7-$ but normally you knew why. Now the average asking is $$ for an hr. Why flip this for a nut or 2? It is not gold. I can understand $$ for the top shelf especially for a first visit nowadays, but no more. Yes I realize we can haggle, but then they normally don't preform as well. I just don't understand why they think a nut or 2 is worth so much, and why anyone is flipping these rates. Again it isn't that valuable no matter how good they are. Not many that are really top shelf either, yes some have good qualities, but nothing to command these asking rates.[/QUOTE]They go as high as the demand dictates. When their phone is constantly being blown up they know they can ask for it and most likely get it. If business is slow prices drop. My guess there are a ton of young nerdy gamer guys who don't know how to approach a woman so they just pay for the pussy now and not have to worry about the relationship bs that comes with gf or wife.

[QUOTE=BigJay69;6156166]They go as high as the demand dictates. When their phone is constantly being blown up they know they can ask for it and most likely get it. If business is slow prices drop. My guess there are a ton of young nerdy gamer guys who don't know how to approach a woman so they just pay for the pussy now and not have to worry about the relationship bs that comes with gf or wife.[/QUOTE]I get it kinda, but they must not realize they are overpaying. I know I have seen 7 in the past 2 months and offer a good rate for the dream and every one of them came down because it was within reason and they tell me they get low balled all the time. So why not find a better middle ground instead of reaching so high and haggling?

[QUOTE=CanyonHunter;6156233]I get it kinda, but they must not realize they are overpaying. I know I have seen 7 in the past 2 months and offer a good rate for the dream and every one of them came down because it was within reason and they tell me they get low balled all the time. So why not find a better middle ground instead of reaching so high and haggling?[/QUOTE]You just answered your own question. Because some of the time they get it and when they don't they get you. If you don't ask you'll never get, so you might as well try to get as much as you can. It's simple economics. Pussy is worth as much as the buyer is willing to pay. Don't forget that.

[QUOTE=CanyonHunter;6155935]What is up with these rates? I realize inflation, and I know I've been away 7 years or so, but damn. The average was anywhere from $- 5 an hr with the $.5 normally being the better providers and if you went regularly $ for the hr. You could always find the. 7-$ but normally you knew why. Now the average asking is $$ for an hr. Why flip this for a nut or 2? It is not gold. I can understand $$ for the top shelf especially for a first visit nowadays, but no more. Yes I realize we can haggle, but then they normally don't preform as well. I just don't understand why they think a nut or 2 is worth so much, and why anyone is flipping these rates. Again it isn't that valuable no matter how good they are. Not many that are really top shelf either, yes some have good qualities, but nothing to command these asking rates.[/QUOTE]I live in the Dayton area and most of what we get here is fat, not attractive, drug using women that want $$+ for an hour of very poor service. If you are lucky enough to get a girl that does not ghost you she usually is not ready on time. Then after taking chances of get busted or robbed and waiting for her to get out of bed you find out she looks nothing like her pictures. Then she has all the rules.

I cannot control what others are willing to pay but I can control myself. I do not use these girls that are not dependable and over priced more than once.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6152020]I think a five hundo bonus is in order. She has certainly given you that much extra pleasure over the period. LOL! I have a favorite sugar baby I have been seeing as long or longer. Of course, I have made thoughtful gifts a regular part of our relationship. I'm not doing any cash bonuses.

BAM.[/QUOTE]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]Ron M from Chicago here.

Get her a gift card to her favorite store or restaurant.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]As long as you have been seeing Thalia and professing your "love" for her, I think the proper anniversary gift at this time would be and engagement ring! :) Seriously though, maybe you should plan a date where you take her out to a very nice dinner, maybe a stroll along the riverfront, and then a nightcap of lustful pleasure.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]The traditional five year anniversary gift is wood, but I guess you have already given her that.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]After 5 years, a gift could be anything that would make them feel like a valued friend, not just a person you bang when you get the itch. Perfume, a basket of bath supplies, a gift card to a spa or salon; these are items that are personal without being sexual, and without breaking the bank.

[QUOTE=NotYourAverage;6162235]As long as you have been seeing Thalia and professing your "love" for her, I think the proper anniversary gift at this time would be and engagement ring! :) Seriously though, maybe you should plan a date where you take her out to a very nice dinner, maybe a stroll along the riverfront, and then a nightcap of lustful pleasure.[/QUOTE]I think that's a great idea. If she still lives in Covington, Dee Felice would be a place for a romantic dinner and close enough that you wouldn't be spending a lot of unnecessary travel time!

[QUOTE=NotYourAverage;6162235]As long as you have been seeing Thalia and professing your "love" for her, I think the proper anniversary gift at this time would be and engagement ring! :) Seriously though, maybe you should plan a date where you take her out to a very nice dinner, maybe a stroll along the riverfront, and then a nightcap of lustful pleasure.[/QUOTE]That sounds wonderful, but I'm too scared to go out in public. I run into too many people sometimes!

[QUOTE=DNut;6162412]After 5 years, a gift could be anything that would make them feel like a valued friend, not just a person you bang when you get the itch. Perfume, a basket of bath supplies, a gift card to a spa or salon; these are items that are personal without being sexual, and without breaking the bank.[/QUOTE]A basket like you described might work. Thanks!

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]I like this topic. I think D Nut is on the right track. I find women value a thoughtful gesture as much or more than something with an obvious cash value. I have given VS gift cards, perfume (Daisy and FlowerBomb are favorites,) flowers, pastry, and, if I am sure of their size, lingerie or boots. Watch Amazon where you can buy something that normally costs a lot but you can get at a substantial discount. In fact, anything where the perceived value is greater than the actual cost works well. A spa day may exceed your budget. I have had my best experience getting tears by just buying a card and composing a romantic and thoughtful note saying how much I value our relationship and why she means so much to me. Chicks dig that stuff. They save cards like that for years! Ask them!

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6163634]I like this topic. I think D Nut is on the right track. I find women value a thoughtful gesture as much or more than something with an obvious cash value. I have given VS gift cards, perfume (Daisy and FlowerBomb are favorites,) flowers, pastry, and, if I am sure of their size, lingerie or boots. Watch Amazon where you can buy something that normally costs a lot but you can get at a substantial discount. In fact, anything where the perceived value is greater than the actual cost works well. A spa day may exceed your budget. I have had my best experience getting tears by just buying a card and composing a romantic and thoughtful note saying how much I value our relationship and why she means so much to me. Chicks dig that stuff. They save cards like that for years! Ask them!

BAM.[/QUOTE]I send her Amazon gift cards every month or two (nothing too crazy), and I probably text her too often about how I much I appreciate her. So I feel like I really should step up my game. The funny thing is I'm already putting more effort into this than thinking about gifts for Wife! SMDH. That's probably a shame, but I absolutely adore Thalia, everything about her.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;6116470]Hey Smokey, sorry to be clipping a snip from one of your posts again. Regarding those streetwalker reports. In recent months a few members were posting pictures of what those girls actually look like. Good god, I didn't know they were that bad. We're talking bottom of the bottom. Have to say it makes me cringe a bit when some of those same guys post a review in the escort or massage sections. Between that, the general lack of quality anyway, and the growing acceptance for trans providers my playtime is at an all time low. And my beef with the trans providers is not moral, its increased disease transmission risk when the same guys are also seeing the real women the rest of us visit.[/QUOTE]Where are the virgin maidens that are being contaminated? I'd love to meet them LOL. I havent seen a regular escort advertising that is better quality than a few of the better girls out walking in a while. Some of the girls people rave about arent any better looking and sometimes have worse hygiene than girls walking. For example, people went crazy about CandyPants for a while but she was about as gross as they come with her addiction which she did right in front of mongers and hygiene. There used to be people that would swear CincyKyla was clean, high end, and a student with with a regular job, taking her kids to soccer practice, even though she had multiple heroin charges and clearly lived in a hotel room with her boyfriend. She was booking as many back to back appointments as she could and lying to the ones she double booked to wait a little longer to add them to the queue.

Doesn't really matter if these girls are out walking, in a hotel, or their own place. They are all junkies. You're much less likely to catch an STI from head in your car with a walker vs head and intercourse with an escort in a hotel room and you have virtually zero chance of catching HIV from oral only which is really the only thing that can mess you up permanently. To your point, everyone should be taking precautions. It is crazy to me when people brag about bare backing these girls. Never know what their needle or other personal sex partners has given them, which are the more likely sources of infection than other mongers that are more likely to be keeping up with their sexual health due to a wife or just better access to health care through a job.

Thought this was worth reporting. Raylee was "outed" recently. Letters were sent to her husband and her parents. To me, this is unforgivable & terrifying.

I know there was a lot of drama about what she did earlier. If it was that guy, I'm not sure what to think about it. I'd prolly need more info. I'm not really an eye for an eye type of guy. But regardless, I met Raylee once and she seemed to be a nice girl. Doesn't matter though. No one deserves this.

Not a lot more to say other than be safe and be smart.

[QUOTE=Newbie78;6165234]Where are the virgin maidens that are being contaminated? I'd love to meet them LOL. I havent seen a regular escort advertising that is better quality than a few of the better girls out walking in a while. Some of the girls people rave about arent any better looking and sometimes have worse hygiene than girls walking. For example, people went crazy about CandyPants for a while but she was about as gross as they come with her addiction which she did right in front of mongers and hygiene. There used to be people that would swear CincyKyla was clean, high end, and a student with with a regular job, taking her kids to soccer practice, even though she had multiple heroin charges and clearly lived in a hotel room with her boyfriend. She was booking as many back to back appointments as she could and lying to the ones she double booked to wait a little longer to add them to the queue.

Doesn't really matter if these girls are out walking, in a hotel, or their own place. They are all junkies. You're much less likely to catch an STI from head in your car with a walker vs head and intercourse with an escort in a hotel room and you have virtually zero chance of catching HIV from oral only which is really the only thing that can mess you up permanently. To your point, everyone should be taking precautions. It is crazy to me when people brag about bare backing these girls. Never know what their needle or other personal sex partners has given them, which are the more likely sources of infection than other mongers that are more likely to be keeping up with their sexual health due to a wife or just better access to health care through a job.[/QUOTE]Just to add to this post. HIV isn't the killer it once was, but the medication to control it is very expensive if you have paid attention to public service ads.

In addition to that, there is the subtle Hepititis virus family that can hurt you worse and is more prevalent according to statistics.

And, herpes, the gift that keeps giving. The oversight of this one is that in some people latter in life can infect other organs including the brain, which can cause stroke like loss of function. So not just the little bumps you get every now and then.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=DelGriffith;6165244]Thought this was worth reporting. Raylee was "outed" recently. Letters were sent to her husband and her parents. To me, this is unforgivable & terrifying.

I know there was a lot of drama about what she did earlier. If it was that guy, I'm not sure what to think about it. I'd prolly need more info. I'm not really an eye for an eye type of guy. But regardless, I met Raylee once and she seemed to be a nice girl. Doesn't matter though. No one deserves this.

Not a lot more to say other than be safe and be smart.[/QUOTE]I'm honestly not very happy that this happened to Raylee. I've read all the comments here about her. I've seen what she did. Etc but I think it's very Bush League what someone did to her. It may cause other problems with other good providers. Completely uncalled for and out of line. I've only visited her once so don't have any ties or skin in the game but for whomever did it, karma is a *****. They will get theirs when its least expected.

[QUOTE=Newbie78;6165234]Where are the virgin maidens that are being contaminated? I'd love to meet them LOL. I havent seen a regular escort advertising that is better quality than a few of the better girls out walking in a while. Some of the girls people rave about arent any better looking and sometimes have worse hygiene than girls walking. For example, people went crazy about CandyPants for a while but she was about as gross as they come with her addiction which she did right in front of mongers and hygiene. There used to be people that would swear CincyKyla was clean, high end, and a student with with a regular job, taking her kids to soccer practice, even though she had multiple heroin charges and clearly lived in a hotel room with her boyfriend. She was booking as many back to back appointments as she could and lying to the ones she double booked to wait a little longer to add them to the queue.

Doesn't really matter if these girls are out walking, in a hotel, or their own place. They are all junkies. You're much less likely to catch an STI from head in your car with a walker vs head and intercourse with an escort in a hotel room and you have virtually zero chance of catching HIV from oral only which is really the only thing that can mess you up permanently. To your point, everyone should be taking precautions. It is crazy to me when people brag about bare backing these girls. Never know what their needle or other personal sex partners has given them, which are the more likely sources of infection than other mongers that are more likely to be keeping up with their sexual health due to a wife or just better access to health care through a job.[/QUOTE]The virgin maidens are where they've always been, in our imaginations. The streetwalker pics posted in that forum section I was referring to were gross on the lowest level. Like the idea of them even sitting in my car makes me worry about the health of my car LOL. Or them leaving behind some critters that infest the upholstery.

[QUOTE=DelGriffith;6165244]Thought this was worth reporting. Raylee was "outed" recently. Letters were sent to her husband and her parents. To me, this is unforgivable & terrifying.

I know there was a lot of drama about what she did earlier. If it was that guy, I'm not sure what to think about it. I'd prolly need more info. I'm not really an eye for an eye type of guy. But regardless, I met Raylee once and she seemed to be a nice girl. Doesn't matter though. No one deserves this.

Not a lot more to say other than be safe and be smart.[/QUOTE]Married and getting railed BB plenty of the time based on reports. What's the likelihood she was doing the hubby the courtesy of being on a constant regimen of PrEP and antibiotics? LOL.

That's one thing this hobby has really opened my eyes to, the way these women can cycle in and out of the game. At least the white knight mongers know the history. How many poor slubs are paying so much more in so many ways to get in them guts for a while longer? LOL.

[QUOTE=CautiousTed;6165617]I'm honestly not very happy that this happened to Raylee. I've read all the comments here about her. I've seen what she did. Etc but I think it's very Bush League what someone did to her. It may cause other problems with other good providers. Completely uncalled for and out of line. I've only visited her once so don't have any ties or skin in the game but for whomever did it, karma is a *****. They will get theirs when its least expected.[/QUOTE]When did you see her Ted? We all missed your glowing review. Ever consider that she was the one that finally got what was coming to her? You're right about one thing though, karma is a ***** hahaha!

[QUOTE=BelowMe;6167667]When did you see her Ted? We all missed your glowing review. Ever consider that she was the one that finally got what was coming to her? You're right about one thing though, karma is a ***** hahaha![/QUOTE]Yea karma can work in some weird ways when it comes to illegal activity. Operating in the shadows makes it easy for even good intentions to get twisted. I know I'm missing out on some good times with better quality girls by never doing verifications. But its worth it when you see how easily these people destroy each others lives. You got to keep your real life and hobby life separate precisely because of stuff like this.

[QUOTE=BelowMe;6167667]When did you see her Ted? We all missed your glowing review. Ever consider that she was the one that finally got what was coming to her? You're right about one thing though, karma is a ***** hahaha![/QUOTE]Why do you feel I need to come on here and tell you about every person I see. Sorry about your luck pal. I've been doing this for more than a few years and don't need little piss ants like yourself to hear about everything I do. And no. She did not have that coming to her? Were you the jack at ss that did it? Everyone here works under cover including you. The other good providers see stunts like this and it freaks them out. Mind your own business and sit down punk.

[QUOTE=CautiousTed;6169020]Why do you feel I need to come on here and tell you about every person I see. Sorry about your luck pal. I've been doing this for more than a few years and don't need little piss ants like yourself to hear about everything I do. And no. She did not have that coming to her? Were you the jack at ss that did it? Everyone here works under cover including you. The other good providers see stunts like this and it freaks them out. Mind your own business and sit down punk.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. When some white night with 3 posts comes in here talking about Karma, Raylee's a nice girl and doesn't deserve this, those if us that have been here a while with a history to prove it call little boys like you out. Personally, I wouldn't fuck Raylee if you paid me that girl is a loose cannon and way too dangerous to risk my safety with. She barebacks everyone and then outs people publicly because she's fucking paranoid. She got Steve from EE busted by ratting him out as well so she got her dose of karma.

[QUOTE=CautiousTed;6169020]Why do you feel I need to come on here and tell you about every person I see. Sorry about your luck pal. I've been doing this for more than a few years and don't need little piss ants like yourself to hear about everything I do. And no. She did not have that coming to her? Were you the jack at ss that did it? Everyone here works under cover including you. The other good providers see stunts like this and it freaks them out. Mind your own business and sit down punk.[/QUOTE]First you come here stating that it is Busch league for what someone did to her, yet it is ok that she did it to a monger.

Than you counter another rmonger stating that you aren't going to come on here and report meetings with different providers.

This site is to share info about provider experiences.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;6169298]First you come here stating that it is Busch league for what someone did to her, yet it is ok that she did it to a monger.

Than you counter another rmonger stating that you aren't going to come on here and report meetings with different providers.

This site is to share info about provider experiences.[/QUOTE]Wrong. This site is to do what I feel. I can read only or share. I choose. Not you. You don't know me little man. Move on.

[QUOTE=CautiousTed;6165617]I'm honestly not very happy that this happened to Raylee. I've read all the comments here about her. I've seen what she did. Etc but I think it's very Bush League what someone did to her. It may cause other problems with other good providers. Completely uncalled for and out of line. I've only visited her once so don't have any ties or skin in the game but for whomever did it, karma is a *****. They will get theirs when its least expected.[/QUOTE]NEVER send your ID or pictures to these girls, especially locals. There is a reason they are in the industry working the middle of Ohio / Kentucky / Indiana and it isn't because they are stable and sharp witted. You do not need to exchange your photos if you request one from the sex worker to prove they are who they are advertising themselves to be either. They are already putting themselves out there to attract customers because they need your. money. No reason a live verification cant be done by someone with nothing to hide that isnt scamming or using 20 year old photos. If the SW chooses not to do that, fine. Bad business decision by her, but her choice.

I'd understand considering sending personal info for verification if you are paying $10,000 a visit for the highest of high end escorts or pornstars booked through a reputable agency or madame but your info will still get leaked out of the little black book if they gets pressed by the right people. I'd rather pay something up front and risk losing a deposit to prove I'm serious rather than do anything that foolish.

You have the cash, you can make the rules. If sending an ID or personally identifiable info is a request that gets laughed at most of the time, it will stop happening. Your anonymity isn't less important than theirs. It's a farce that knowing who you are is for their "safety". If a teenager can get a fake ID to get in a bar, I'm sure someone with really bad intentions can get their hands on one too to trick a sex worker. If they are actually concerned about physical safety, they would schedule in a hotel so other people are in the vicinity or have another person close by monitoring. All giving up your identity does is give them leverage to out you if you piss them off. If your intent was to intentionally harm them, scam them or piss them off going into the meeting, you could easily fake anything they asked for that they falsely believe is giving them security.

Wells said Newbie78

[QUOTE=Newbie78;6169419]NEVER send your ID or pictures to these girls, especially locals. There is a reason they are in the industry working the middle of Ohio / Kentucky / Indiana and it isn't because they are stable and sharp witted. You do not need to exchange your photos if you request one from the sex worker to prove they are who they are advertising themselves to be either. They are already putting themselves out there to attract customers because they need your. money. No reason a live verification cant be done by someone with nothing to hide that isnt scamming or using 20 year old photos. If the SW chooses not to do that, fine. Bad business decision by her, but her choice.

I'd understand considering sending personal info for verification if you are paying $10,000 a visit for the highest of high end escorts or pornstars booked through a reputable agency or madame but your info will still get leaked out of the little black book if they gets pressed by the right people. I'd rather pay something up front and risk losing a deposit to prove I'm serious rather than do anything that foolish.

You have the cash, you can make the rules. If sending an ID or personally identifiable info is a request that gets laughed at most of the time, it will stop happening. Your anonymity isn't less important than theirs. It's a farce that knowing who you are is for their "safety". If a teenager can get a fake ID to get in a bar, I'm sure someone with really bad intentions can get their hands on one too to trick a sex worker. If they are actually concerned about physical safety, they would schedule in a hotel so other people are in the vicinity or have another person close by monitoring. All giving up your identity does is give them leverage to out you if you piss them off. If your intent was to intentionally harm them, scam them or piss them off going into the meeting, you could easily fake anything they asked for that they falsely believe is giving them security.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=CautiousTed;6169408]Wrong. This site is to do what I feel. I can read only or share. I choose. Not you. You don't know me little man. Move on.[/QUOTE]Your virgin post was just a few weeks ago, starting off so beautifully with "Long time watcher first time poster here. Hopefully the first of many!" And the AMP lady didn't even jack you off!

What happened to that Ted? We want him back!

[QUOTE=BelowMe;6169177]Hahaha. When some white night with 3 posts comes in here talking about Karma, Raylee's a nice girl and doesn't deserve this, those if us that have been here a while with a history to prove it call little boys like you out. Personally, I wouldn't fuck Raylee if you paid me that girl is a loose cannon and way too dangerous to risk my safety with. She barebacks everyone and then outs people publicly because she's fucking paranoid. She got Steve from EE busted by ratting him out as well so she got her dose of karma.[/QUOTE]First is your proof she turned in Steve. Second you wouldn't fuck her because she turned you down. I Know another provider that worked for Steve said she turned him in. So nobody knows who did it.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;6170047]First is your proof she turned in Steve. Second you wouldn't fuck her because she turned you down. I Know another provider that worked for Steve said she turned him in. So nobody knows who did it.[/QUOTE]Every girl who ever worked for Steve had exactly the same opinion- that he was a complete dick. I had some issues with him at one time and he certainly was one to me. Not surprising someone dropped a dime on him, especially if they were looking at jail. Not wishing ill on him or anyone, just pointing out what goes around does tend to come around.

The good dr.

[QUOTE=CautiousTed;6165617]I'm honestly not very happy that this happened to Raylee. I've read all the comments here about her. I've seen what she did. Etc but I think it's very Bush League what someone did to her. It may cause other problems with other good providers. Completely uncalled for and out of line. I've only visited her once so don't have any ties or skin in the game but for whomever did it, karma is a *****. They will get theirs when its least expected.[/QUOTE]Snitching is never OK. If you have a problem, handle it another way. Raylee was Way out of line for what she did. So was whomever snitched her out.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;6170047]First is your proof she turned in Steve. Second you wouldn't fuck her because she turned you down. I Know another provider that worked for Steve said she turned him in. So nobody knows who did it.[/QUOTE]Hillbilly nwhat are you saying here. That another provider turned Steve in or that another provider said Raylee turned him in. Your message isn't real clear there. As for Raylee, I've never fucked her because I've never contacted her. Tried when she was with EE but she was always booked so I gave up. I don't schedule a week in advance.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;6169855]Your virgin post was just a few weeks ago, starting off so beautifully with "Long time watcher first time poster here. Hopefully the first of many!" And the AMP lady didn't even jack you off!

What happened to that Ted? We want him back![/QUOTE]I'm happy you're proud of your "badge of honor" here big time poster. Like I really give 2 cents. At the same time I'm concerned that you're worried about whether I got jacked off or not. All that tells me is you utilize the posts here for self gratification. Visiting an AMP for the first time only happened bc I read about it here and thought I'd try it and share my experience. I don't need your blessing to do so nor do I care what you think. Go blow a goat.

[QUOTE=BelowMe;6170704]Hillbilly nwhat are you saying here. That another provider turned Steve in or that another provider said Raylee turned him in. Your message isn't real clear there. As for Raylee, I've never fucked her because I've never contacted her. Tried when she was with EE but she was always booked so I gave up. I don't schedule a week in advance.[/QUOTE]A different provider other then Raylee told me she turned him in. She is no longer in the business. I think she was telling the truth.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;6170393]Every girl who ever worked for Steve had exactly the same opinion- that he was a complete dick. I had some issues with him at one time and he certainly was one to me. Not surprising someone dropped a dime on him, especially if they were looking at jail. Not wishing ill on him or anyone, just pointing out what goes around does tend to come around.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]I agree. I wasn't a fan Of Steve but don't wish that on anyone. I saw most of His Girls but not through him. Never talked with any that liked him. Yes one that is out of the business told me.

Before it was publicized she turned him in.