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Am I imagining things or has the number of providers charging 150+ for their HH session gone up dramatically? Those are prices that used to be charged mostly by the 260-300 per hr GFE+ girls. My guess is that a lot of them have figured out that many mongers opt for the shorter session to save $ or because they don't have a lot of time. But still, to have a price structure like 150/200 or 150/220 is just bizarre. There used to be many more good quality providers at the 80/100/120 per HH range and I'm not inclined to pay the higher price for average service just because they're afflicted with golden p*ssy syndrome.

I know the DMV has a reputation for mongers with more $ than sense, but it's getting f*cking ridiculous!

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2593217]Since I stayed up all night trying to load a new software package onto my computer, I sent a note to a BP provider. This was around 4:30 am, and I was thinking she'd reply back sometime later in the morning. To my surprise, she was already awake, preparing to check out of her mid-range motel at 11 am. Asked if she wanted some company beforehand, and she said "Sure. " So, after a short excursion, I found her waiting in her room, wrapped in a towel that "fell off" when she began giving me a massage. Well, one thing led to another. I started giving her a massage and, before either of us knew it, we were locked in a coital embrace. At one point, after a couple of cums on her part, she began panting again and said (in a deep, breathy voice), "Damn, you are [U]such[/U] a good f&#k!" (I've got that on video, which I was shooting at the time, so maybe I'll make an edited version of it available at some point, along with her BJ and HJ techniques, too.) Based on the situation, I don't think she uttered those words idly to bolster my ego or induce me to cum quickly. We stayed locked together for another 10 minutes. Then, I laid back and let her take command. She gave me a terrific BBBJ (with a technique that resembles her DFK) to conclusion. Afterwards, we cleaned up, shared some more DFK for a while, and then I departed so she could pack her things for checkout. All in all, it was a great Morning Delight.

She doesn't take all comers who call or email her. And even if you do get to see her, [B]YMMV[/B]. You might just get a nice massage to relieve some stiff joints and other parts. Also, she won't be everyone's cup of tea. She's no spinner, shows a bit of her age, and does smoke. (In fact, she had been smoking in the room prior to my arrival, but the air was not heavy with the smell of cigarettes.) But, she is a nice gal and a warm cup of tea for me. So, I'll be making plans to see her again when she returns to the area. If any of you do see her, be sure to treat her nicely, like a lady ought to be treated. (To the one guy who tried to cum in her mouth during BBBJ, or perhaps failed to give her a warning beforehand: Shame on you. No lady should be surprised by anything except gifts, dinners, and flowers. Surprising her by cumming in her mouth is a no-no.).

As always, trusted Seniors will get priority replies, and Regulars with a significant amount of [U]useful contributions[/U] will receive comparable info. If your post history is in the single digits, or consists mainly of "I agree" type of comments or requests for information, please expect a [B]long[/B] interval between your PM to me and my reply back to you.

Roman.[/QUOTE]Figured out who that is. I always shave before seeing a girl, just my personal choice I figure they don't want a lot of hair around.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2595824]Am I imagining things or has the number of providers charging 150+ for their HH session gone up dramatically? Those are prices that used to be charged mostly by the 260-300 per hr GFE+ girls. My guess is that a lot of them have figured out that many mongers opt for the shorter session to save $ or because they don't have a lot of time. But still, to have a price structure like 150/200 or 150/220 is just bizarre. There used to be many more good quality providers at the 80/100/120 per HH range and I'm not inclined to pay the higher price for average service just because they're afflicted with golden p*ssy syndrome.

I know the DMV has a reputation for mongers with more $ than sense, but it's getting f*cking ridiculous![/QUOTE]Of course we only have ourselves to blame -- who is paying this?? Can't be just be lobbyists.

I have notice inflation on the low-end too. But it seems cyclical. I used to hold out for $40-$50 and occasionally do $60-$80. That went away for a while, and so did I. Then the $40-$60 providers (including very high quality out of towners) came back. For most of the summer there were good options at that price point. Last few weeks, however, that is crept up. The quality you'd expect to see for $40 is demanding $60+ and you see a lot fewer quality $60 options in the suburbs vs SW DC, Oxon Hill, etc.

Like you I am noticing more $100 "QV"s and $150+ HH rates. Talking to providers in the past, they complained that in DMV the SS / QV thing was killing their business compared to other parts of the country where HH is the norm. A lot of providers used to (some still) post "No Short Stays" etc., but that genie is out of the bottle around here. Other parts of the country, it is HH minimum, but you'll see "$120 HH /$140 HR" rates and the alleged hour rate is not a true hour.

I prefer the SS / QV deal myself, unless it is a true 100% GFE / PSE++ player with MSOG, etc (pretty much limited to Thai or Taiwanese in my book).

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2595491]To echo what JmSuttr said, the ostensible "racist" attitudes of many AMP girls and BP providers may be similar to Jesse Jackson's attitude when he once said: "There is nothing more painful to me. Than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. " It isn't that Jesse Jackson holds racist attitudes against other blacks; he was simply speaking from observation and, possibly, personal experience. He knows, but probably didn't want to say it, that black youth commit violent crime far out of proportion to their percentage in the general population. Likewise, this may explain the reluctance of many women, especially Asians, in the sex service industry. And, looking back at news reports even in this area, the reports of massage parlors being robbed (even one worker being killed) more often than not involve young black males. That may, and probably is, also a function of massage parlors being located in less-than-upscale neighborhoods or the best sections of a city. But, from the workers' standpoint, they just see the race of the individuals committing these violent crimes and make a reasonable [B][red]risk-based[/red][/B] judgment. Hence, the reluctance of many workers to see black men (or black men under a certain age). This, surprisingly or not, even occurs with black women providers.

So, the refusal of some providers to accept black clients is probably not best described as "racist", per se, but as risk-based (based on personal experience or news reports).[/QUOTE]This is very well put. This is now probably starting to run afoul of the forum rules, but I appreciate the discussion and the lucid explanation by Roman, as for me too way back when I definitely took offense to this thinking the provider must be some kind of white supremacist. Then I noticed it occurring equally or more often among black providers, and a couple OGs (in one case one of the true OGs on this site who happens to be black himself) explain that most often it is the "manager" who adds that language, and most often he himself matches the prohibited category.

The one thing that cracks me up, however, is when a provider is described as a "Snow Bunny" and has "No AA Men PERIOD!" in her post.

Isn't that a fundamental contradiction?

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I felt like I had to post this so that you guys don't waste your time or $$ on this.

Text her during the day told her that I would like to see her later, she said ok. Asked if BBBJ is on the menu and she said yes, so figured worst case I would get that. Boy was I wrong. I texted her around 9 pm to see if I could see her at 9:30 pm, she texts me back at 9:45 acting like we never talked before. She kept stringing me along and finally said she can see me at 11 pm (red flag #1). I should've just gone home at this point but figured I waited this long so why not. I finally get directions to her place and it is a house in a quiet neighborhood (red flag #2), she comes out of the back of the house smoking and tells me to be quiet because her roommates are sleeping so we walk to the back of the house (red flag #3). We go to the basement and and it is a mess and nasty almost like a homeless person was living there, and then I finally get to see her face and she looked really really aged. She then walks me into a room that looked a hostage was kept there, really creepy with just a mattress and dim lighting (red flag #4). I'm sure everyone reading is wondering why I kept going at this point but figured I could get a quickie and go home. She then tells me that her fee is now 2. 00 even though her ad originally said 1. 85. At this point I didn't care I just wanted to get this over with. She tells me to just undress, no affection, no nothing. She undresses and it is not very good to look like, she looked so skinny with these bolt ons, not very attractive. She tells to me get on the bed, she sits next to me starts tugging and puts the hat on even before I could get it up, she starts sucking but nothing doing. She looks at with annoyance and asks what's wrong. I just couldn't get in the mood, asked about the BBBJ and she says I charge extra for that. I then ask I could DATY and she says no. So at this point I decide I'm giving up and offered to split the 2 and I'll take 1 back, but of course she says no. I rush out of there and balled out.

Very disappointing, probably my worst experience EVER.

Looks-2.

Personality - 2.

Service-2.

Overall - 2.

[QUOTE=WebDog2015;2596608]This is very well put. This is now probably starting to run afoul of the forum rules, but I appreciate the discussion and the lucid explanation by Roman, as for me too way back when I definitely took offense to this thinking the provider must be some kind of white supremacist. Then I noticed it occurring equally or more often among black providers, and a couple OGs (in one case one of the true OGs on this site who happens to be black himself) explain that most often it is the "manager" who adds that language, and most often he himself matches the prohibited category.

The one thing that cracks me up, however, is when a provider is described as a "Snow Bunny" and has "No AA Men PERIOD!" in her post.

Isn't that a fundamental contradiction?[/QUOTE]Thanks, WD. Part of the reason for my post [U]was[/U] to de-fuse this topic, before it got out of hand or ran afoul of the forum's rules (thus requiring A2 to step in).

It's aggravating and frustrating to be excluded simply on the basis of a physical characteristic over which one has no control. I used to have similar feelings when I was in my early 20's. Some of the ads would say, "No one under 25," for instance, and it would frustrate me because I knew I was well-behaved, etc. But, I learned to let it go and move on, figuring that the provider was the one ultimately the worse for it because she lost a potential reliable customer. "[I]C'est la vie[/I]".

At any rate, the color that most providers are concerned with is [B]GREEN[/B].

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2596754]Thanks, WD. Part of the reason for my post [U]was[/U] to de-fuse this topic, before it got out of hand or ran afoul of the forum's rules (thus requiring A2 to step in).[/QUOTE][BLUE]This is me stepping in, back to the pussy.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2594364]Although I'd seen Ashleigh's ads before (mainly on the Baltimore BP boards, although she has advertised in other locales such as Pittsburgh, Chattanooga, Dallas, and Boston, too), but I had never been able to catch up with her when she was in town. Well, last week I finally got ahold of her at her Herndon area hotel and set up a visit. I'm happy to report that all of the positive comments online (in this forum and elsewhere) are very accurate.

Ashleigh is a sweet "bluebonnet" gal (originally from Texas) who provides a high-quality experience. The pictures in her ad are of her, and they are recent, but they probably don't quite do her complete justice. When you see her in person, you'll know what I mean. Her body type reminded me of the "soft body" porn actresses of the mid-to-late 1970's, as opposed to the "hard body" actresses of the 1980's and 1990's. She is tall (maybe 5'-8" trim (maybe 110# all-natural (maybe 36 C), with soft skin and pretty hands and feet. There is no bait-and-switch in her ads.

From the moment that she opened the door, until the moment I departed an hour later, she was constantly kissing. Well, not constantly, but this gal treats you like you were her boyfriend, with all the kisses she gives you throughout the session. And, she doesn't short you on time or rush you, either. She is very service-oriented in getting the job done, but without a businesslike attitude or demeanor. And, although she does smoke (as evidenced by the pack of cigarettes on the counter), she doesn't smoke during the time you're there. Neither did the room reek of cigarette smoke. The entire session was safe, but stimulating and enjoyable, and she can engage in intelligent conversation if you want to talk during your time. All in all, you will get what you paid for.

Will I repeat? That's hard to say. I enjoyed my time with her, absolutely, and there was nothing she did that was off-putting or negative. But, as a higher-quality provider who keeps herself in good shape and stays at upper mid-range hotels, her rates are a tad higher than the usual BP provider. Her rates aren't exorbitant, by any means, but I look at the extra. 2 to. 4 as being able to pay for a sufficiently satisfying experience with another, slightly-lower rate provider (or, a much more affordable provider such as the "4:30 am gal" whom I recently reviewed).

But don't let this discourage any of you from meeting her. [B]This is just me and my perspective.[/B] I'm not saying that I couldn't or wouldn't see her again. In fact, I probably will, but I just can't make visits with her a regular part of my appetite. She's like a fine wine, when all you really want most times is the house's table wine. You save the fine wine for those special occasions, and drink the house wine when you want something that is more than sufficient to go with a good meal.

So, my recommendation on Ashleigh is this: [RED][B]Go see her.[/B][/RED] You are [U][B]not[/B][/U] likely to be disappointed. In fact, you're very likely to want to reassess your current choices and decide that a girl like Ashleigh (and she is very much a girly girl) will be worth the slightly higher rate than the disappointments you occasionally encounter with other BP providers. You just have to get it in your mind that higher quality warrants a higher rate. And, as I said, she won't cost you an arm and a leg (or any appendage, for that matter). You'll just have to make a [U]slight[/U] adjustment to your current mongering budget.[/QUOTE]Just want to echo Roamin Roman's excellent review of Ashleigh. I saw her awhile ago, and haven't seen her ads much lately. My experience was just like his, and I so plan to see her again.

[QUOTE=Jj2244;2596742][URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-and-sexy-mature-european-women-call-now-you-will-not-be-disappointed/18686999[/URL]

I felt like I had to post this so that you guys don't waste your time or $$ on this.

Text her during the day told her that I would like to see her later, she said ok. Asked if BBBJ is on the menu and she said yes, so figured worst case I would get that. Boy was I wrong. I texted her around 9 pm to see if I could see her at 9:30 pm, she texts me back at 9:45 acting like we never talked before. She kept stringing me along and finally said she can see me at 11 pm (red flag #1). I should've just gone home at this point but figured I waited this long so why not. I finally get directions to her place and it is a house in a quiet neighborhood (red flag #2), she comes out of the back of the house smoking and tells me to be quiet because her roommates are sleeping so we walk to the back of the house (red flag #3). We go to the basement and and it is a mess and nasty almost like a homeless person was living there, and then I finally get to see her face and she looked really really aged. She then walks me into a room that looked a hostage was kept there, really creepy with just a mattress and dim lighting (red flag #4). I'm sure everyone reading is wondering why I kept going at this point but figured I could get a quickie and go home. She then tells me that her fee is now 2. 00 even though her ad originally said 1. 85. At this point I didn't care I just wanted to get this over with. She tells me to just undress, no affection, no nothing. She undresses and it is not very good to look like, she looked so skinny with these bolt ons, not very attractive. She tells to me get on the bed, she sits next to me starts tugging and puts the hat on even before I could get it up, she starts sucking but nothing doing. She looks at with annoyance and asks what's wrong. I just couldn't get in the mood, asked about the BBBJ and she says I charge extra for that. I then ask I could DATY and she says no. So at this point I decide I'm giving up and offered to split the 2 and I'll take 1 back, but of course she says no. I rush out of there and balled out.

Very disappointing, probably my worst experience EVER.

Looks-2.

Personality - 2.

Service-2.

Overall - 2.[/QUOTE]In addition to the red flags you identified, there were some others as well. Both image and phone number searches found no positive info at all: no reviews, no forum field reports and no ads other than her recent ones on the NOVA BP. That doesn't automatically mean she's a ripoff (or LEO) but it does mean you're rolling the dice on an unreviewed provider with no track record. The next big red flag was how flaky she became when you were trying to set up the appt. IME, once a provider starts getting flaky for no good reason, it's a pretty good indication that the session won't go well. And even if she said BBBJ was on the menu, her flakiness put everything she said in doubt. Now the best thing about these red flags, because they popped up before you got to the location, is that they could have helped you avoid the whole mess.

Once you got to the location more red flags revealed themselves but you were caught up in an all too common "oh well, I'm here already" mindset. One giant red flag, IMHO, was walking into the basement of an unknown residence, late at night, when you knew multiple persons were already inside. As far as hobbying locations are concerned, hotels are generally safe, an outcall to your location (although I don't recommend unless the provider is well-reviewed) is relatively safe, but the situation you describe, not so much. Then the nasty environment, seeing her aged face and her upsell from 185 to 200 were more red flag icing on the cake. Since no money had changed hands at any one of these points you would have been more than justified in making up an excuse and walking away.

BTW, it's a relief that all you lost was some money, because it could have definitely turned out worse for you. And thanks for TOFTT and for your post because now we know what the real story is with this provider. Wishing you safe hobbying and a better experience next time.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2581473]This ad in the "Women Seeking Men" section piqued my interest, as it has appeared recently and only a couple times. After initial contact and a couple follow-up emails, we set up a meeting time at her mid-scale motel in Springfield, VA. She gave me her room number when I arrived and called. When I walked in, I was met by a freshly-showered BBW, wrapped in a towel, who welcomed me with a DFK.

She loves giving sensual massages, and that is all the $ is for, but my charming personality and engaging conversation led to other activities after she finished. As you can see, a fun time was had by all. She's a BBW, but not in an obese or sloppy way, and on a scale of looks she is not unattractive for her 52 years. She is affectionate, enthusiastic, genuine, sweet, and very responsive. I will [B]very[/B] likely repeat.

Seniors, and Regular members who have a history of useful participation, may PM me for contact info.



Roman.[/QUOTE]Yay. My first post. Saw this sweet older woman today. Set-up via email was easy; location, phone, and room number. She opened the door wearing only a T-shirt. I was pleasantly surprised. The looks and big soft body that I just adore. Light cursory massage, oral to get me excited, and went straight to exploring each other's bodies with lots of kisses. Many positions and finished with Russian. Talked for a while after and then showered together. Wow- great non-rushed GFE with the mature MILF next door!

[QUOTE=Admin2;2596941][BLUE]This is me stepping in, back to the pussy.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Some of us "got your back" (or try to) when you're temporarily away. : the.

[QUOTE=Jj2244;2596742][URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-and-sexy-mature-european-women-call-now-you-will-not-be-disappointed/18686999[/URL]

I felt like I had to post this so that you guys don't waste your time or $$ on this. . . .Very disappointing, probably my worst experience EVER.

Looks-2.

Personality - 2.

Service-2.

Overall - 2.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, Jj, her ad also caught my eye this afternoon but I didn't have the time or opportunity to call her then. Now, after reading your review, I realize that nothing good would have come of visit to her. I'm sorry you fell into her scam but, as JmSuttr said, you're fortunate in the sense that you just lost $$. All of the red flags he (and you) mentioned indicate that the outcome of your visit could have been far, far worse.

In fact, this report and JmSuttr's reply, could make a good case study for posting in a "MUST READ" area of the USASG, perhaps to help save some future monger (s) from getting into a very ugly situation.

Thanks for your expansive, informative, and timely report.

[QUOTE=Pbarber307;2597311]Yay. My first post. Saw this sweet older woman today. Set-up via email was easy; location, phone, and room number. She opened the door wearing only a T-shirt. I was pleasantly surprised. The looks and big soft body that I just adore. Light cursory massage, oral to get me excited, and went straight to exploring each other's bodies with lots of kisses. Many positions and finished with Russian. Talked for a while after and then showered together. Wow- great non-rushed GFE with the mature MILF next door![/QUOTE]Since you posted a report about this gal, it's probably a good opportunity for me to say that she's now removed her posts from BP. Anyone who didn't strike while the iron was hot has probably missed his chance now. She has informed me, in a message this afternoon, that she has deleted her BP ads and is going to restrict her associations with her prior regulars and any new folks she met via her latest ads (now removed).

Here's what transpired:

I received a message from her last night. Apparently, LEO was stopping guys on the service road as they were coming to or leaving the hotel. LEO was "interviewing" the guys as to whether they were staying at the hotel and, if not, why they were visiting, whom they had seen, etc. Basically, typical LEO intimidation tactics, trying to get some unfortunate monger to self-incriminate or to spill the beans about a provider. (She also said, in her message, that when she was checking-in earlier that day, there were a couple of "working girls" who were checking-in ahead of her. It would seem that this hotel is a base of operations, so to speak, for the local 'entrepreneurial set' in Manassas.).

Anyway, one of the guys who visited her yesterday said that he was stopped and, when asked as to his reasons for being at the hotel, told LEO that "[I]his back was hurting and he had met a girl who invited him to her room for a massage[/I]. " This scenario is a teachable moment, from a couple perspectives.

First, a monger who is stopped by LEO when arriving at or, more likely, departing from a provider's motel needs to be on the alert. That can be difficulty when the red lights appear in your rear view mirror. Whether you want to admit it or not, you've got a guilty conscience, and the LEO is not likely to give you time to deal with it or sort it out. LEO will probably ask you why you were at the motel (likely at a late hour when most people are sound asleep in their beds). Unfortunately, many will answer that they were visiting a friend (or something similar).

[B][red]This question is a trap in the "interview" process.[/red][/B] If you answer with something like, "[I]I was visiting a friend[/I], " the LEO will follow that up with "[I]What is your friend's name?[/I]" or "[I]Which room is your friend staying in?[/I]" LEO can easily verify your answers with the hotel front desk and, if you've given false info to LEO, they have grounds to detain you for lying to a police officer. And, if you can't provide the name of the "friend" that you ostensibly visited, they may have grounds to detain you for suspicious activity, perhaps in an area "known for prostitution" or some such. And, if you actually provide the room number of the provider that you just visited, LEO might pay a visit to the provider and, if the visit goes badly, both of you might find yourselves in deeper hot water. It can all get very ugly, very quickly. So, what to do?

If you ever get stopped by LEO upon arriving at, or departing from, a motel visit with a service provider, and they ask you "[I]Why are you at this motel?[/I], " [U][b][red]you should NOT answer the question the way they want you to answer it.[/red][/b][/U] Instead of answering their question, you should ask them a question, something like "[I]What's going on, officer? Why have you stopped me?[/I]" They won't like that sort of reply, but they may respond by saying that they are investigating reports of illegal activity at that location, etc.

Regardless, they will likely follow up their first question by asking (again) what you are doing there (at that time of night or whenever). [U][b][red]Again, instead of answering the question that they pose, you should instead respond by asking them if you are being detained[/red][/b][/U].

If they say "[I]No[/I], then [U][b][red]you should ask them if you are free to leave[/red][/b][/U]. Since they have already stated that you aren't being detained, there is no reason for them to prevent you from leaving.

However, [RED][u][b]if they do prevent you from leaving[/b][/u][/RED], you then should ask why they told you weren't being detained and you are now actually being detained. They will definitely not like this sort of pushback, and they might even suggest that you could be taken to the police station for suspicion of whatever crime they suggest you might have been involved in. This can be a very unnerving situation to be in, but since they have no proof of you having done anything illegal and (hopefully) you have not admitted to anything or, for that matter, even answered their questions as to why you were even at that motel, they will most likely keep you there for a few minutes and then, after perhaps having taken your drivers license information, allow you to depart.

On the outside chance that they actually DO take you down to the local police station (and assuming that you've not given them any false information or, for that matter, even given an answer to their questions), they will have to provide an [U]articulable reason[/U] for having done so. Regardless, it is incumbent on you to [B][red]SAY NOTHING[/red][/B] in response to their questions. The onus is on them to support their allegations.

They may try to say that, since you had no business being at the motel (I. E. , you weren't a registered guest), you *could* be cited for trespassing. However, the hotel management is the entity that needs to request that. The police cannot simply charge you with trespassing without a valid basis. And, unless the motel management can be induced into pressing such charges against you, it's unlikely that LEO will be able, or willing, to actually charge you with such an offense.

They key is this: If and when you ever get stopped by LEO after (or prior to) visiting a provider who is staying at a local motel, [B][red]NEVER[/red][/B] answer the questions that they put to you (aside from providing you license, if you are driving). Instead, ask why you have been stopped, are you being detained, and if you are free to leave.

[B][red]You are not required to answer LEO's questions or provide any information to them except perhaps giving them your identification.[/red][/B] They may, and most likely will, try to intimidate you into giving them the information they want (such as "[I]Why are you here?[/I]" and "[I]Who were you visiting?[/I]" but you do not have to provide that information or even say that you prefer not to answer those questions. Instead, [U]ask them questions[/U] and [U]let them provide answers to yours[/U]. If they accuse you of anything, let them prove it. But don't give them ammunition to use against you, even if both of you know what you were there for.

[RED][B]DO NOT[/B][/RED] get into long diatribes about your rights, the Constitution, etc. , etc. Instead, keep it simple and direct:
[INDENT][list]"[red][b][I]Why have you stopped me?[/I][/b][/red][/list][list]"[red][b][I]Am I being detained?[/I][/b][/red]"[/list][list]"[red][b][I]Am I free to leave?[/I][/b][/red]"[/list][/INDENT]
Saying much more than this can often get you tangled up in a web of your own making, one which you might not be able to extricate yourself from.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2597175]In addition to the red flags you identified, there were some others as well. Both image and phone number searches found no positive info at all: no reviews, no forum field reports and no ads other than her recent ones on the NOVA BP. That doesn't automatically mean she's a ripoff (or LEO) but it does mean you're rolling the dice on an unreviewed provider with no track record. The next big red flag was how flaky she became when you were trying to set up the appt. IME, once a provider starts getting flaky for no good reason, it's a pretty good indication that the session won't go well. And even if she said BBBJ was on the menu, her flakiness put everything she said in doubt. Now the best thing about these red flags, because they popped up before you got to the location, is that they could have helped you avoid the whole mess.

Once you got to the location more red flags revealed themselves but you were caught up in an all too common "oh well, I'm here already" mindset. One giant red flag, IMHO, was walking into the basement of an unknown residence, late at night, when you knew multiple persons were already inside. As far as hobbying locations are concerned, hotels are generally safe, an outcall to your location (although I don't recommend unless the provider is well-reviewed) is relatively safe, but the situation you describe, not so much. Then the nasty environment, seeing her aged face and her upsell from 185 to 200 were more red flag icing on the cake. Since no money had changed hands at any one of these points you would have been more than justified in making up an excuse and walking away.

BTW, it's a relief that all you lost was some money, because it could have definitely turned out worse for you. And thanks for TOFTT and for your post because now we know what the real story is with this provider. Wishing you safe hobbying and a better experience next time.[/QUOTE]Yeah, usually I know better and now that you mention it, I didn't even think of the other risks of the in-call.

I guess my stubbornness got the best of me, lesson learned for sure.

Saw this review for a while now and noticed a review on the oThER site so I thought I'd give her a try. Knew the pics were fake but because I generally like latinas and asians it couldn't be too bad.

Standard 2-3 call / text system got me to the location then the room number. As soon as I got in I noticed it's a fairly young / attractive looking latina (25-30 yo) with fake dyed blonde hair. She's a bit flabby but her tits were huge (I'm a tit man). Everything was covered but she had a disinterested attitude and mechanical level of service so pretty much a waste of time / money. Language barrier was also a bit high as I don't speak Spanish but even if I could I doubt it'd be better given the attitude.

Now I think there are a couple of providers working under the same number just in different rooms. The girl I got said her name was Camilia or something like that from Colombia while the previous review mentioned Mariana. Doesn't matter, though, as there are other latinas in nova that have better attitudes / service.

240-xxx-8231.

Miriam.

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