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St. Louis is notoriously cheap. I'm a manufacturer's rep (contracting / construction related industry) I've work led three territories and covered 14 different states, st. Louis has a reputation for being cheap. Other cities Springfield, Kansas City, Detroit, Chicago, Little Rock, Birmingham, etc. The end-users all want the latest and greatest or the best value. In St. Louis the end-users all want cheaper. The companies I deal with say most of their customers in St. Louis would take half the quality of it saved a dollar. Plus the companies I deal with in St. Louis have smaller profit margins than in other places because so many people in St. Louis have a guy or a buddy who can do it for them (when I've seen the work of the buddy, the quality is always poor).
[/QUOTE]There's a ton of truth in that statement.
Have a friend I've been seeing for about a year looking to make some Christmas cash and wants to see a few guys. I hate to even post this LOL but she is really cool so I told her I'd help her out. She is drug free and just a normal ole single mom. She is a small bbw with a few tattoos she has big soft tits that are pierced a big soft ass and a pretty pierced pussy.
She offers a great slow sensual BBBJ other than that don't bother asking for anything else bare. Outcalls only she drives her self and she is usually very dependable. You must verify with her she will verify also. Senior members hit me up and I will try to get you in touch with her. Don't fuck this up fellas she is a good one!
[QUOTE=RogueOne1977;5097473][URL]https://www.radio.com/kmox/news/local/murder-charge-for-death-of-pregnant-woman-in-st-peters[/URL][/QUOTE]
I sincerely hope someone nails this evil motherfucker's testicles to his forehead in prison.
[QUOTE=DVelvet69;5097969]I sincerely hope someone nails this evil motherfucker's testicles to his forehead in prison.[/QUOTE]Agreed, people like him are pieces of human trash. I hope he gets what he deserves.
[QUOTE=SirChuck;5096202]Man, I'm bored and glad this is my slow season. The following is a strategy to get these GPS Girls to loosen up the prices and menu.
I totally agree! Sounds like this girl needs to come back to reality. There are many ways to skin a cat. Quick Side Bar: In any hard negotiations your key is to exhaust the person asking for way more then you're actually willing to accept. Literally beating them down mentally in negotiations exhausting them. Obliviously, the person can just decline and end the negotiations. However, if this person experiences this over and over with new prospect clients they should eventually break. The key is be on the offense putting them on the defense which puts the ball in your court. You're controlling the situation.
The goal is to desensitise her GPS expectations hopefully resulting in opening up her menu and rates. If 3-5 plus mongers contact her the same day requesting her menu and acting shocked no GFE for her rates. Then again clarifying no BBBJ for 120 quick, 200 hhr or 320 an hr as if you can't believe what your hearing? She will either hang up or say I give an incredible CBJ you won't know the difference. Say sorry, but what am I getting at these prices? Do you at least eat ass while giving a CBJ? Do you offer multiples shots on goal? (This will upset her but remember that's the point. She needs to be mentally beat down and exhausted) Don't say a word. Wait for her response which will probably be a Hell No? (She might Hang Up? And that's fine. But, if she doesn't.) Then act completely shocked saying "WHAT"? You do know their are just as attractive and hotter girls offering BBFS and Bareback Greek with CIA for less then you're asking. (This might seem childish and it is. Remember, this is just a game. We can lose the battle the key is winning the war.) This will upset her getting her defensive resulting in her probably hanging up. (No matter how childish this seems it should start to break her down making her question her worth. Slowly but surely.) If she hangs up, that's OK. Because she will soon get another call from another monger requesting and saying basically the same thing which will probably end the same way. Then a little later she gets another repeat. And so on and so on. After the first day she might add the verbiage "NO GFE Don't Even Ask" in her Ads. Then the next day another 3- 5 plus mongers contact her to repeat. Then again the next day. During this entire process she will be upset acting emotionally and she might avoid other legit callers that want to see her just because her pics look hot. This might continue for days as long as our repeat calls inquiries continue. In theory after the first 3-4 days of calls this could be broken up to every other day the following week.
This will result in her pocket book hurting and her having to come to terms if she's willing to open up her menu and or adjusting her rates. What is she actually going to get a legit job making $10-$12 an hour? LOL. This should also tell her the majority of the mongers in STL aren't interested in paying outrageous prices for her shitty services. Remember, the only way to get these GPS girls to loosen up there donation / menu is to let them starve. This should eventually get them to open up their menu / donation and Polish up there services or leave the STL hobby.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]The problem with this is that in practice it just leads most actual attractive girls to leave STL and touring girls to not tour in STL. Touring girls arent going to starve, they're just not going to come here. Even locally, there are many more guys that buy pussy that just want to fuck a girl quickly while they are drunk or have a brief window of time away from their significant other and don't care about doing their part for the union of whoremongers than there are guys who want to band together to drive down rates.
[QUOTE=Purry;5096989][URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/198964[/URL]
Anyone have any info or experience with her? Quoted me 350 for FS.[/QUOTE]Her ad is so poorly put together that it's probably real, just a girl who doesn't understand what she's getting into into that much. A scammer would have more pics, better pics, etc most likely. Based on that one pic she doesn't look like a 350/ hr girl imo.
[QUOTE=YoungSkeez77;5098104]The problem with this is that in practice it just leads most actual attractive girls to leave STL and touring girls to not tour in STL. Touring girls arent going to starve, they're just not going to come here. Even locally, there are many more guys that buy pussy that just want to fuck a girl quickly while they are drunk or have a brief window of time away from their significant other and don't care about doing their part for the union of whoremongers than there are guys who want to band together to drive down rates.[/QUOTE]At this point I wouldn't mind paying $300-$350 for a cute petite girl that's full GFE msog etc. I'm sure their out there utr but I don't know them. Even the ones on SA that are down seem a bit beat up. (They still charge those rates anyway.).
[QUOTE=TwoSheds;5098002]Agreed, people like him are pieces of human trash. I hope he gets what he deserves.[/QUOTE]Why did they try to save his ass? Let that MF slowly bleed to death and die on his front porch to save tax payers.
Hey guys,
Trying to satisfy my penchant for mature women, I came across this lovely lady in Adultlook: [URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3176232[/URL].
Has anyone seen her? She looks like she's got a nice body and pretty face. Thanks to all who can share some info about her.
Thanks,
P&M.
A google of her phone number will return a home cleaning service and a Chesterfield residential address. The apartment complex isn't as SE Asian friendly as some of the others near by. She may be out looking for quick cash. Or her hubs turned her out to make ends meet. Either way, I will be passing on those prices.
She quoted me 200 for HJ, 260 for BJ and 350 for FS. Is she for real?? LOL.
Quote Originally Posted by Elnino1978.
I saw her ad last month in RR and emailed her for rates.
Quoted 175 for massage and HJ, told her a little too much for just HJ.
Never received a reply after that.
Is suppose to be in Chesterfield area.
She quoted me 200 for HJ, 260 for BJ and 350 for FS. Is she for real?? LOL.
[QUOTE=Pedalsandmotor;5098604]Hey guys,
Trying to satisfy my penchant for mature women, I came across this lovely lady in Adultlook: [URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3176232[/URL].
Has anyone seen her? She looks like she's got a nice body and pretty face. Thanks to all who can share some info about her.
Thanks,
P&M.[/QUOTE]I just wrote a review for Sally in the Massage Parlor section. [URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/158168[/URL].
Sally is mature, no drama and exactly the woman in the pictures. Let me know how it goes with the woman in your post.
First, I'd like to say I agree this doesn't work with touring girls as they have many markets at there fingertips. As they can and many do elect to by pass STL on there itinerary. Typically, these girls are much more professional and don't carry the baggage as locals. Furthermore, they also have a higher cost overhead. Such as travel, food, usually higher end hotels and etc. My theory is based on local girls. Also, I want to clarify that my definition of touring girls aren't girls that live 1-2 hours away. Touring girls IMO are girls that travel around the country.
Now, girls that are working in STL full time is a different story. There market is STL and lack the ability to go on tour for the most part. For many different reasons. Many locals don't have the freedom to pick and choose which cities to travel. May it be a family, finances, motivation, certain dependency's that are very common in this hobby and multiple other reasons not listed. These are the girls my theory applies to.
When you see a cute local girls ads typically the girl doesn't look nearly as good as her pics. For the most part. Sometimes it's a difference between night and day.
So, she's advertising with those pics with the intent to get as much money as possible even if she substantially looks worse then her pics. If she looked as good as her pics she'd always be busy with clients with no need to advertise. However, if you advertise with this intent and offer a crappy service expecting top dollar her GPS will be her demise. Sure, she might get a handful of inexperienced, married with limited time, in the moment drunk clients. But, how sustainable is this? That well will run dry over and over with that mentality. I could go on and on but you get the gist.
Now, if a girl has a legit full time job and hobby's on the side, I can see how this will work.
So, what my theory is really doing is bringing a out of touch expectation down to a realistic level. IMO, this is as beneficial to the provider as it is to the client. At least if she wants to establish any consistency in clientele. Being a good looking provider opens the door of the hobby but your attitude and expectations determine how long that door stays open.
Once again just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=YoungSkeez77;5098104]The problem with this is that in practice it just leads most actual attractive girls to leave STL and touring girls to not tour in STL. Touring girls arent going to starve, they're just not going to come here. Even locally, there are many more guys that buy pussy that just want to fuck a girl quickly while they are drunk or have a brief window of time away from their significant other and don't care about doing their part for the union of whoremongers than there are guys who want to band together to drive down rates.[/QUOTE]
You should see Lori AKA Knottyneads. I've had many good times with her always feeling well fulfilled when leaving.
[QUOTE=StlGamerDude;5098238]At this point I wouldn't mind paying $300-$350 for a cute petite girl that's full GFE msog etc. I'm sure their out there utr but I don't know them. Even the ones on SA that are down seem a bit beat up. (They still charge those rates anyway.).[/QUOTE]
Sometimes the thrill of the new and unknown gets us. It's turned out well for me before, but not this time. Don't see Luisa G.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/missouri/st_louis/files/4094177.htm[/URL]
On the positive side she is hot. The pics don't give that great an idea of her, but she's mid 20's with a really nice, soft body. Amazing natural Ds, a nice ass, and she's not fat. Pretty face too. The problem is she was still the worst experience I've ever had with an Eros girl.
She advertises GFE for 400/ hr, but that consists of pecks basically. No DFK, no BBBJ, no FIV. I could've still had a good time even with this limitations, but she acted very distant, complained about just anything I did, etc. Doggy was still kind of nice, she has a great ass, but the atmosphere of her contempt for me from the beginning gave me trouble with staying hard. I've had a couple bad experiences before, but they were with 160 hr hotel asian chicks where you can't necessarily expect anything good. With this girl expectations were high and it was terrible. I've seen probably 15 Eros girls and some have been better than others, but she was the first one I actively had a bad time with and feel deep regret for seeing. Don't DO IT!