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10-12-21, 16:08
Style20

[QUOTE=ConGorilla;5586145]While not in her ad she's requesting 100 deposits "for her safety" and "to make sure I'm not wasting my time" for incalls.

Sucks because she always looked great but when a provider suddenly wants advances that's a bad sign.

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/come-experience-jenna-soft-lip/140898070447[/URL][/QUOTE]Every girl is going to ask foe deposit just to rip us off. It's working or else girl like Jenna or Nicole aka Nikki or devil with the angel eyes wouldn't be doing it either.
10-12-21, 18:15
VicksBurg70

Jenna

[QUOTE=Style20;5586222]Every girl is going to ask foe deposit just to rip us off. It's working or else girl like Jenna or Nicole aka Nikki or devil with the angel eyes wouldn't be doing it either.[/QUOTE]I have known her for 10 years. She never required any money up front in all that that time. Have not seen her recently but I know she has had a history of personal problems. Has fallen under the influence of pimps a number of times. Not sure that is the case now. Performance wise she has always been excellent but her attitude can sometimes get in the way. All services she provides are with condoms. No exceptions. My last contact with her she was heavily involved in promoting her Only Fans account.
10-12-21, 19:22
MongerBob

[QUOTE=Style20;5586222]Every girl is going to ask foe deposit just to rip us off. It's working or else girl like Jenna or Nicole aka Nikki or devil with the angel eyes wouldn't be doing it either.[/QUOTE]It's hard for me to believe that so many guys are falling for it. But if they are, it's not going to take too many times getting ripped off for them to catch on and stop sending them. At least I hope it won't.
10-12-21, 20:18
Style20

[QUOTE=MongerBob;5586560]It's hard for me to believe that so many guys are falling for it. But if they are, it's not going to take too many times getting ripped off for them to catch on and stop sending them. At least I hope it won't.[/QUOTE]I just don't understand how any guy can trust a girl they don't know. Just like girls that requires screening. It should go both way. If I give you my name and work info. You should do the same so I know I'm not dealing with a psychopath.
10-13-21, 07:32
DJrunner

Never

I sent deposit to a provider with multiple pages of reviews on another site only to get burned. Never send deposit. Never.
10-13-21, 08:08
Deputydawg525

Alishia

Definitely aims to please.

Can not put up a new post right now but here is a link to old ad.

Does not do deposits not a thief.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/lets-play/13813696[/URL]
10-13-21, 08:12
SwimSays

[QUOTE=Style20;5586647]I just don't understand how any guy can trust a girl they don't know. Just like girls that requires screening. It should go both way. If I give you my name and work info. You should do the same so I know I'm not dealing with a psychopath.[/QUOTE]I only consider screening or deposits with high end providers that have a ton of reviews and a history and usually when I am traveling out of this area. I would never jump through any hoops for the average provider posting on STGs.

Talking to a few providers recently, it seems they are experiencing a higher rate of younger guys texting and wasting time, never planning to meet or bailing at the last minute. Some are starting to ask for a deposit just to weed them out or also send them to the wrong close by address (like Marcella and Priscilla started doing) to prove they are serious in meeting.

The only way to combat all this BS is to keep providing and sharing info so the number of people that fall for the deposit and screening scams makes it not worth for them to keep doing. Unfortunately I think for every monger that is on a forum like this sharing intel, there are 20 walking around thinking with their dicks.
10-13-21, 09:27
Mr RicFlair

[QUOTE=VicksBurg70;5586446]I have known her for 10 years. She never required any money up front in all that that time. Have not seen her recently but I know she has had a history of personal problems. Has fallen under the influence of pimps a number of times. Not sure that is the case now. Performance wise she has always been excellent but her attitude can sometimes get in the way. All services she provides are with condoms. No exceptions. My last contact with her she was heavily involved in promoting her Only Fans account.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing her off and on about 6 yrs I'd say. Initially she could be had for $80-160, never ever spent more than that with her. Last few times I reached out she said it's $250 hh all included. She's a cool girl once you get past her phone attitude. She can take a pounding & the head is pretty good. It's just not worth $250 IMHO.
10-13-21, 10:31
Charfly

Dangerous ripoff

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ill-take-care-of-morning-wood/954407919366[/URL]

In hindsight I'm pretty sure she was reviewed extensively as a rip-off artist in Providence a year or so back. Second time in ten years that I ignored my spidey sense and got burned. Only happens when I'm desperate and in a rush. Anyway:

She's hosting in a new mill conversion on the Lincoln / CF line. Went for a 80 qv. Nice on the phone. When I arrived her apartment was disgusting and she was too. Everything smelled like smoke and shit. She led me to a couch and told me to get comfortable. Her face is pock marked and she is missing teeth. I told her I'd give her 20 for her troubles but that I wasn't staying. Her bf hops out of the bathroom with a ridiculous 3" pen knife and blocks the door and demands her full payment. Guy looks like the Somali pirate from the memes. Could have easily overpowered them but not worth the risk / effort / explaining at home etc. In hindsight they're set up to do this, no one would get it on with her.

I handed him the money and walked out while they screamed at me. I got her name from some mail in the lobby (and noticed that the word "*****" is etched on her mailbox so I know I'm not the first guy to get got.

Contemplating using a burner to no show her a bunch or go back with pepper spray or stake out their lot and figure out which car is theirs. LOL. Maybe I'll get her benefits shut off. LOL.

Mainly want you all to be safe and use your senses.
10-13-21, 11:57
MongerBob

[QUOTE=Charfly;5587365][URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ill-take-care-of-morning-wood/954407919366[/URL]

In hindsight I'm pretty sure she was reviewed extensively as a rip-off artist in Providence a year or so back. Second time in ten years that I ignored my spidey sense and got burned. Only happens when I'm desperate and in a rush. Anyway:

She's hosting in a new mill conversion on the Lincoln / CF line. Went for a 80 qv. Nice on the phone. When I arrived her apartment was disgusting and she was too. Everything smelled like smoke and shit. She led me to a couch and told me to get comfortable. Her face is pock marked and she is missing teeth. I told her I'd give her 20 for her troubles but that I wasn't staying. Her bf hops out of the bathroom with a ridiculous 3" pen knife and blocks the door and demands her full payment. Guy looks like the Somali pirate from the memes. Could have easily overpowered them but not worth the risk / effort / explaining at home etc. In hindsight they're set up to do this, no one would get it on with her.

I handed him the money and walked out while they screamed at me. I got her name from some mail in the lobby (and noticed that the word "*****" is etched on her mailbox so I know I'm not the first guy to get got.

Contemplating using a burner to no show her a bunch or go back with pepper spray or stake out their lot and figure out which car is theirs. LOL..[/QUOTE]Sorry that happened man, and thanks for TOFTT. I actually tried to contact her the other night, and might have gone through with it but she started asking for a deposit before she'd confirm and appointment time, so I said no thanks. Looks like I dodged a bullet.
10-13-21, 14:26
Aimar1988

Giving back. It's been some time

Hi friends,

Giving back. As I haven't in a while. It's about time I do something. Shave reserved my contact with providers, but enough to post! I am a big FBSM guy and / or BBBJ. With that said, it has been a struggle on both fronts. Here are some of my recent encounters over the past months:

Mandy. She's great. At one point only doing 1 hr, but she is back to doing hh. Sensual, great head game. Best that is still at it.

Destiny. Bang for your buck, I'd rather go up a level to Mandy. But destiny hasn't had someone post on here in a bit. She's worth "bumping". 40 qv. Vacuum cleaner.

Kelli (ma south of Boston) - saw her 1st time about a month ago. Talks a lot, but she's smart. I find her interesting and sexy. Great body for her age, but I can see how some just want her to work and stop chatting. It doesn't bother me. BBBJ, FSBO covered after starting w massage on hotel bed. I can't recall $, but listing was accurate. She's my favorite although I have not seen Her again.

Bella (fbsm) - the best fbsm in the ri / ma area IMO. She only ends with hand, but man. This light skin black beauty gets my cock hard as anyone. 1. 6 w tip. For hr.

I do have an UTR that isn't mentioned and will share of someone has any UTR or provider that I don't know about! Dying to find a good fbsm and / BBBJ.

Happy hunt my fellow mongers!
10-13-21, 15:17
Big Mac Daddy

[QUOTE=Charfly;5587365][URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ill-take-care-of-morning-wood/954407919366[/URL]

In hindsight I'm pretty sure she was reviewed extensively as a rip-off artist in Providence a year or so back. Second time in ten years that I ignored my spidey sense and got burned. Only happens when I'm desperate and in a rush. Anyway:

I handed him the money and walked out while they screamed at me. I got her name from some mail in the lobby (and noticed that the word "*****" is etched on her mailbox so I know I'm not the first guy to get got.

Contemplating using a burner to no show her a bunch or go back with pepper spray or stake out their lot and figure out which car is theirs. LOL. Maybe I'll get her benefits shut off. LOL.

Mainly want you all to be safe and use your senses.[/QUOTE]Pepper spray is the way to go. Have it with you on new dates.

You could have sprayed both of them, taken their phones, and kicked his ass on the way out the door for being anti-social and rude. Of course, everyone's mileage would vary based on each situation. 😉.

BMD.
10-13-21, 16:04
ChrisMason86

Any info

Thinking of trying this.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/100-real-anastasia-the-beauty/40807794[/URL]

Been texting back and forth, seems a little ditsy. Any one had any experience with her?

Thanks is advance.
10-13-21, 17:09
Cropsey

Info?

I've been texting with her, so far, she has been too easy to agree to my requests which seems suspicious to me. TGTBT, I might be stepping in to a rip-off situation or LEO. If you have any info please let me know. Thanks.

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/sexy-new-white-girl-in-town/559952321731[/URL]
10-13-21, 17:12
Bobs YourUncle

[QUOTE=Cropsey;5587992]I've been texting with her, so far, she has been too easy to agree to my requests which seems suspicious to me. TGTBT, I might be stepping in to a rip-off situation or LEO. If you have any info please let me know. Thanks.

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/sexy-new-white-girl-in-town/559952321731[/URL][/QUOTE]I have to believe that 3rd picture is not the same body as the red suit ones.
10-13-21, 17:52
Style20

[QUOTE=Cropsey;5587992]I've been texting with her, so far, she has been too easy to agree to my requests which seems suspicious to me. TGTBT, I might be stepping in to a rip-off situation or LEO. If you have any info please let me know. Thanks.

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/sexy-new-white-girl-in-town/559952321731[/URL][/QUOTE]Stay away bro. She's definitely a scammer. Location, anal and pics are to good to be true.
10-13-21, 19:27
MilfsOnly

Same experience

My experienced was very similar. Here is my review from the other site that got rejected because I need have her name.

I will not be repeating. FYI heavy smoker, so you will smell like smoke.

Arrived at her in call (actually in Lincoln), called she picks up directs me to which entrance to use, says she will be down in 5 minutes. I wait 5 minutes and proceed to entrance, she not there, but a I see a dude (handler) creeping around the vestibule... Yes he did look extra from Captain Phillips movie
so I decide to return to me car and wait. Finally see her arrive at door looking like a hood rat wearing sweats, hoodie and slippers, (should have ran at this point, but little head was in full control) she was definitely women in pics. Follow her up to her 2nd floor loft apartment. Open door and I am almost knock over by the strong smell of weed and also could see a light smokey hazy. Completed business side of meet and while I was getting comfortable she quickly opens door and hands donation to handler.

She strips reveling sagging tits, many tats, pieced nipples and clit. Get down to business, but I'm not into her. Than I hear noise coming from the bedroom loft and she says don't worry, just my friend and has her peak over the railing (homely BBW) and is not a provider.

Decided I had enough of the weirdness and just go for BBBJ blow in her mouth, don't remember if you swallowed or spit. Got dressed quickly and made my way out of there as quickly as possible.

[QUOTE=Charfly;5587365][URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ill-take-care-of-morning-wood/954407919366[/URL]

In hindsight I'm pretty sure she was reviewed extensively as a rip-off artist in Providence a year or so back. Second time in ten years that I ignored my spidey sense and got burned. Only happens when I'm desperate and in a rush. Anyway:

She's hosting in a new mill conversion on the Lincoln / CF line. Went for a 80 qv. Nice on the phone. When I arrived her apartment was disgusting and she was too. Everything smelled like smoke and shit. She led me to a couch and told me to get comfortable. Her face is pock marked and she is missing teeth. I told her I'd give her 20 for her troubles but that I wasn't staying. Her bf hops out of the bathroom with a ridiculous 3" pen knife and blocks the door and demands her full payment. Guy looks like the Somali pirate from the memes. Could have easily overpowered them but not worth the risk / effort / explaining at home etc. In hindsight they're set up to do this, no one would get it on with her.

I handed him the money and walked out while they screamed at me. I got her name from some mail in the lobby (and noticed that the word "*****" is etched on her mailbox so I know I'm not the first guy to get got.

Contemplating using a burner to no show her a bunch or go back with pepper spray or stake out their lot and figure out which car is theirs. LOL. Maybe I'll get her benefits shut off. LOL.

Mainly want you all to be safe and use your senses.[/QUOTE]
10-13-21, 20:51
Style20

[QUOTE=MilfsOnly;5588213]My experienced was very similar. Here is my review from the other site that got rejected because I need have her name.

I will not be repeating. FYI heavy smoker, so you will smell like smoke.

Arrived at her in call (actually in Lincoln), called she picks up directs me to which entrance to use, says she will be down in 5 minutes. I wait 5 minutes and proceed to entrance, she not there, but a I see a dude (handler) creeping around the vestibule... Yes he did look extra from Captain Phillips movie
so I decide to return to me car and wait. Finally see her arrive at door looking like a hood rat wearing sweats, hoodie and slippers, (should have ran at this point, but little head was in full control) she was definitely women in pics. Follow her up to her 2nd floor loft apartment. Open door and I am almost knock over by the strong smell of weed and also could see a light smokey hazy. Completed business side of meet and while I was getting comfortable she quickly opens door and hands donation to handler.

She strips reveling sagging tits, many tats, pieced nipples and clit. Get down to business, but I'm not into her. Than I hear noise coming from the bedroom loft and she says don't worry, just my friend and has her peak over the railing (homely BBW) and is not a provider.

Decided I had enough of the weirdness and just go for BBBJ blow in her mouth, don't remember if you swallowed or spit. Got dressed quickly and made my way out of there as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience you had. I gave her the money and she said she have to pay her landlord but I forgot. I wasn't nervous since I was not in the mood so it didn't bother me. I went upstairs and she had fucked up bed and she said we couldn't fuck on the bed or else the bed would break. So we fuck on the floor. But the fact she had no curtain at the big ass glass window had me worry that anyone can see. But they couldn't see where we were fucking upstairs which I felt safe. She couldn't do doggy. I hit her up last month again to fuck since she was only for $60. I ask if she can do doggy. Her druggie ass excuse was that she broke her leg so she can't do doggy. So since then, I don't bother her no more.
10-13-21, 23:42
FlairStick

"freaky inquires"

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/freaky-inquires/553284662596[/URL]

Has anyone seen her before? She used to go by Diamond, but I only see reviews for the girl in Warwick and the other Diamond that's wicked thick with blonde hair. So I can't find any reviews on her.

This Diamond seems to do outcalls around MA / RI. She seems to have been posting for a long time. I facetimed her so I know it's her in the pictures.

Any info regarding performance, attitude, boundaries / rules etc? Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. I'm supposed to be seeing her this weekend. Thanks.
10-13-21, 23:44
DpmSaturn14

Any Info

[QUOTE=ChrisMason86;5587904]Thinking of trying this.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/100-real-anastasia-the-beauty/40807794[/URL]

Been texting back and forth, seems a little ditsy. Any one had any experience with her?

Thanks is advance.[/QUOTE]Yes, trying to find info about her too!
10-14-21, 23:00
Big Daddy R

Anyone seen this girl?

Hey there anyone seen this lady looks good not sure tho before I call.

Link- [URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/iecollegehottiewithahotttttbod/099310004507[/URL].
10-15-21, 11:02
JackBeQuick1

[QUOTE=BigDaddyR;5590257]Hey there anyone seen this lady looks good not sure tho before I call.

Link- [URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/iecollegehottiewithahotttttbod/099310004507[/URL].[/QUOTE]You might want to check the Boston Boards on here.

But here is a link to her review from the other site.

[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/detail/khelani-review-by-bigw1313-2326453[/URL]
10-15-21, 17:29
NightJones123

Anyone seen them I keep seeing there ads. I texted and got a.

Response said extended stay in EP and 160 hour GFE but I never pulled the trigger.

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/347-506-8691asianbbbjnurngfe-e/700036121352[/URL]

347-XXX-8691
10-16-21, 12:56
JackBeQuick1

[QUOTE=NightJones123;5591354]Anyone seen them I keep seeing there ads. I texted and got a.

Response said extended stay in EP and 160 hour GFE but I never pulled the trigger.

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/347-506-8691asianbbbjnurngfe-e/700036121352[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Pulled the trigger.

Long story short.

Sexy Asian, was wearing heels, 35-45 ish, nice rack. About 5'5. Cute face. CBJ, no GFE, no DATY (she said to much fucking that day), took her time, until the deed, then it was go faster, she is tight, did not last long. Cfs, missionary, hh at 130. Was nice but can be a little off putting. Would repeat if just looking to get off with an older Asian provider.
10-16-21, 13:00
JackBeQuick1

[QUOTE=Style20;5588362]I had the same experience you had. I gave her the money and she said she have to pay her landlord but I forgot. I wasn't nervous since I was not in the mood so it didn't bother me. I went upstairs and she had fucked up bed and she said we couldn't fuck on the bed or else the bed would break. So we fuck on the floor. But the fact she had no curtain at the big ass glass window had me worry that anyone can see. But they couldn't see where we were fucking upstairs which I felt safe. She couldn't do doggy. I hit her up last month again to fuck since she was only for $60. I ask if she can do doggy. Her druggie ass excuse was that she broke her leg so she can't do doggy. So since then, I don't bother her no more.[/QUOTE]I think she used to host in Attleboro, if its the same girl, read she reeked downstairs. Per this board.
10-17-21, 09:01
Dayman1

Alexia

Has anyone seen the Brazilian? TGTBT?

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/alexia-the-sexy-brazilian-is-b/858505692958[/URL]
10-17-21, 09:22
Style20

[QUOTE=JackBeQuick1;5592326]I think she used to host in Attleboro, if its the same girl, read she reeked downstairs. Per this board.[/QUOTE]Yes she use to but I saw her in Lincoln also.
10-17-21, 18:07
ThundrThump

Angel No Show

FYI setup an IC appointment, provide was a no show. She didn't bother to call and inform me that she had to cancel. After an hour waiting I called to see if she had been delayed and there was no answer.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/rhodeisland/providence/68718706[/URL]
10-18-21, 07:47
ILuvToMunch69

[QUOTE=Dayman1;5593237]Has anyone seen the Brazilian? TGTBT?

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/alexia-the-sexy-brazilian-is-b/858505692958[/URL][/QUOTE]She is real. Much larger than photos. Belly pouch.
10-18-21, 07:48
ILuvToMunch69

[QUOTE=Dayman1;5593237]Has anyone seen the Brazilian? TGTBT?

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/alexia-the-sexy-brazilian-is-b/858505692958[/URL][/QUOTE]She is real. Much larger than pics show.
10-18-21, 08:44
MongerBob

[QUOTE=ILuvToMunch69;5594461]She is real. Much larger than pics show.[/QUOTE]Did you see her? Any other details?
10-18-21, 16:44
JasonKruger1

Any recent info on Lala?

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/sweetest-dessert/953381122157[/URL]
10-18-21, 20:18
Brainstorm

[QUOTE=Dayman1;5593237]Has anyone seen the Brazilian? TGTBT?

[URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/alexia-the-sexy-brazilian-is-b/858505692958[/URL][/QUOTE]Do a search for Penelope for my review. That was the name she was using on Tryst.
10-18-21, 20:20
Brainstorm

[QUOTE=EasyCnote;5583591]My point, with the info you gathered and the obvious signs of scam, what more do you need? You cannot wish or will that girl to be real.[/QUOTE]Follow-up: the photos are real but they are taken of a French porn star Oksana D'Harcourt. The catfisher is really a provider using her photos instead of his / her own.
10-18-21, 23:06
JWilson317BP

Catfisher

[QUOTE=Brainstorm;5595595]Follow-up: the photos are real but they are taken of a French porn star Oksana D'Harcourt. The catfisher is really a provider using her photos instead of his / her own.[/QUOTE]Ahhhh. I think that means they are not real.
10-18-21, 23:16
Style20

[QUOTE=JasonKruger1;5595238][URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/sweetest-dessert/953381122157[/URL][/QUOTE]Probably no one will. She can only do outcall and require deposit. This is a big red flag when they will only do outcall and require deposit. And she want to screen you. If you ask me. If you want to see her and she require deposit. We should be the one screening these WGs to know their past and their real name since she want you to send money for her to come to you.
10-19-21, 20:58
Big Mac Daddy

[QUOTE=Style20;5595814]Probably no one will. She can only do outcall and require deposit. This is a big red flag when they will only do outcall and require deposit. And she want to screen you. If you ask me. If you want to see her and she require deposit. We should be the one screening these WGs to know their past and their real name since she want you to send money for her to come to you.[/QUOTE]As bad as all that is, her ad states, "I only play safe". Translation: CBJ. Next!

BMD.
10-21-21, 08:53
Alvistide

Joelle

[QUOTE=WillyO;5576798]For what it is worth, she has a recent add on erotic monkey using that same number.[/QUOTE]Today in STG. But not the number I had for her. [URL]https://providence.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hot-and-sultry-6ft-tall-blonde/557403122631[/URL].
10-21-21, 13:21
UdderSucker

Eva and Gabriella, Eros

Hey fellow mongers,

Anyone have intel on either of these two? They're both my ideal body type but also seem TGTBT.

Gabriella.

[URL]https://www.eros.com/rhode_island/providence/files/7049703.htm?cat=1[/URL]

Eva.

[URL]https://www.eros.com/rhode_island/providence/files/6322798.htm?cat=1[/URL]

Stay safe out there.
10-21-21, 15:50
Cropsey

Stay away

I inquired about this one some days ago: [URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/sexy-new-white-girl-in-town/41886254[/URL].

I should have listened to Style20 but I was thinking with the wrong head and wanted to toftt. So, it was one of those days when no one answered. Decided to text this one, asked for a BBBJ for 100. She said she doesn't meet anyone for under 150 but she later texted back and agreed. She's on fed hill in a shady street in an obviously abandoned house. Met me at the back door, bored and with an attitude. Took me upstairs and with an unpleasant tone asked me for the money. She walked out of the room, obvious pimp in the house and I immediately regretted my choice of being there. But she came back alone and closed the door. With a terrible attitude we started the deed. Her BJ was bad, just lips, no tongue or suction. Asked her to put sucking pressure and I got an excuse that she was in an accident and it hurts her jaw. I told her to just jerk me off and take off her shirt. She did but wouldn't take her bra off (disappointing as she did have big breasts) and again with her bad attitude. At that point, I told her we were done and got off the bed. I didn't make a fuss as I didn't know how many people are in there or how dangerous they are, and left. She's pretty and thick in all the right places, but with her terrible attitude and lack of skill, she ain't making any money. I implore you guys to not go see her, save your money and avoid trouble by staying away from this one. By far the worst experience I've had.

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