Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Liecam;1147741]I used to own a business on The Hill and every business owner and LE patrolling the streets know about OS. During one of the monthly Hill Association meetings some owners were complaining about the spas while some very successful restaurant owners were in favor of them. They said the gentlemen that come to Providence for business enjoy having everything right on one street, restaurants, bars and SPAS! As long as it doesn't create a problem for residents and business owners OS will be the last place to get shut down. Providence has a lot more important things to take care of like an $800 million deficit.[/QUOTE]Ok, I will definitely increase spending at those establishments. And why not, I spend it elsewhere anyways.

[QUOTE=Smoke Screen;1147794]Assman's post only strengthens my post #5532 on 2/8/11. When some of us start over tipping & in advance it only hurts the rest of us. These girls talk to each other. What do you think happens when one girl says to another, I just got 250 for the same thing you got 140 for? It's just human nature to want to be treated equally.[/QUOTE]Well, I can't agree with you on this one Smoke. These places actually run them like a business. Most of us know what the rates are for various service. Just like any other business if the owner finds out the employees are up selling a product they will not be happy and deal with the employee not to do so. If some is doing that just bring it to the attention of the manager and they will make sure it doesn't happen. They do not want to lose business over that. Or if your not satisfied with the end result. Thats why they always ask if everything was ok. But if you try to negotiate a lower rate they will but not give you the best service or just say no! And one should not be upset for the final outcome.

I think if you know the girl and you have a rapport, tipping ahead lets them know what the expectation is. But a stranger? I wouldn't recommend it either. Too many unknowns.

[QUOTE=A N I M A L;1147916]Well, I can't agree with you on this one Smoke. These places actually run them like a business. Most of us know what the rates are for various service. Just like any other business if the owner finds out the employees are up selling a product they will not be happy and deal with the employee not to do so. If some is doing that just bring it to the attention of the manager and they will make sure it doesn't happen. They do not want to lose business over that. Or if your not satisfied with the end result. Thats why they always ask if everything was ok. But if you try to negotiate a lower rate they will but not give you the best service or just say no! And one should not be upset for the final outcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ass Man69; 1147462]Hit up OS last night around 1am. Went upstairs and sat in the waiting room for about 10 minutes, then they took me back behind the window and I sat there for another 10 minutes before meeting a cute little asian hottie.

Paid. 6 up front and then offered. 8 for FS and she shot me down. I tried to negotiate but she wanted no part of it. Couldn't even get a BJ for that price so settled for the HJ. She was super hot and pretty cool but damn stubborn on her rates. She told me to come back with $$ and it would be game on.

Whats the going rate these days there? Was I being too cheap or was she just being too stubborn?

On another note, that place is like a production line. They are running people in and out of there like a factory. The two mamasans were running around like crazy. When I got back down stairs, there were 4 more guys in line outside the building. [/QUOTE]"come back with 200" obviously means "after I return your 60" "come back with 200", to apply as 60 and 140, no upsell at all, just the standard fee

[QUOTE=Offshore Racer;1148172]"come back with 200" obviously means "after I return your 60" "come back with 200", to apply as 60 and 140, no upsell at all, just the standard fee[/QUOTE]According to Assman's report, he paid the 60 house fee. That money is gone. Now the girl comes back and the negotiation starts. He offers 80, she counters with 200. 200 + 60=260. In my book that is upsell.

The only way we are going to agree is to agree to disagree. Fair enough?

[QUOTE=Liecam;1147741]I used to own a business on The Hill and every business owner and LE patrolling the streets know about OS. During one of the monthly Hill Association meetings some owners were complaining about the spas while some very successful restaurant owners were in favor of them. They said the gentlemen that come to Providence for business enjoy having everything right on one street, restaurants, bars and SPAS! As long as it doesn't create a problem for residents and business owners OS will be the last place to get shut down. Providence has a lot more important things to take care of like an $800 million deficit.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point in my post. Only reason OS is still open and thriving is because of crooked Politicians and the amount of "Extra" business it brings to the community. OS is wayyyyyyyyyyy to busy for my likings.

[QUOTE=Offshore Racer; 1147861]The OS standard price is 60 and 140 (with a 99% certainty level) and any other claims are nonsense. OS.

Easily has over 2000 (repeat within 3 months type) customers, and probably more, and no single customer can impact prices. [/QUOTE]OR, obviously, you are a person of great means, and in this shitty economy, I congratulate you for it and I also agree that the women at OS are in the upper echelon of "AMP-dum." I am also a person of some means, but the economy has taken its toll (actually we are in year 3, so it is impacting the reserves). I enjoy hot Korean women, but, at the same time, expect fair treatment, and I don't see that at OS. When I am with someone, she is mentally moving onto the next.

A question to you, have you ever received an hour in that place? The most I have ever got was about 40 mins. If you are going to be there a tad over a half hour, for $200, you might as well move on to a better alternative. Most escorts run $200 for the hour or longer? Perhaps a better way to go at a prorated hourly rate of $320 or so?

Based upon your report of the customer base, these chicks must be true fucking machines (no pun). With ALL that action, their attitude and performance (in spite of being a knock-out) has to suffer, and you become just another hard dick. Would it not be a better alternative to find a quieter place and actually mean something to the person you visit? On a related note, how many accidents also have happened?

I think OS is a great place, and it could be even better with better customer treatment and I do think, given their present get-them-in and get-them-out attitude, that $200 is plentisimo for anything the place has to offer.

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin; 1148310]OR, obviously, you are a person of great means, and in this shitty economy, I congratulate you for it and I also agree that the women at OS are in the upper echelon of "AMP-dum." I am also a person of some means, but the economy has taken its toll (actually we are in year 3, so it is impacting the reserves). I enjoy hot Korean women, but, at the same time, expect fair treatment, and I don't see that at OS. When I am with someone, she is mentally moving onto the next.

A question to you, have you ever received an hour in that place? The most I have ever got was about 40 mins. If you are going to be there a tad over a half hour, for $200, you might as well move on to a better alternative. Most escorts run $200 for the hour or longer? Perhaps a better way to go at a prorated hourly rate of $320 or so?

Based upon your report of the customer base, these chicks must be true fucking machines (no pun). With ALL that action, their attitude and performance (in spite of being a knock-out) has to suffer, and you become just another hard dick. Would it not be a better alternative to find a quieter place and actually mean something to the person you visit? On a related note, how many accidents also have happened?

I think OS is a great place, and it could be even better with better customer treatment and I do think, given their present get-them-in and get-them-out attitude, that $200 is plentisimo for anything the place has to offer. [/QUOTE]The average amount of time for me at OS is about 50 mins but I'm the type of guy who wants to get the hell out of there after the Extras are over. A place like 1021 that may keep you there an additional 20 to 30 mins isn't good for me. I just don't have enough time during the day to do that. I also do not pay in advance but will tip an extra $20 if service was good. As a business owner whose customers pay when they pick up their products, feel that is appropriate for myself. If some guys want to pay 20/30/40% over suggested cost before services are rendered thats all good because it hasn't changed the amount the girls are asking for.

Of all the visits to OS I've only had 2 bad services. The last time I was there I was lucky to get Nancy and she made me forget about all the negatives at OS. Also, these girls can't compare guys spending habits in Providence to NYC or other major cities.

We all do this for some different reasons. Some guys want to feel a little connection to the girl while others just want to bang a hot Asian girl. I do have a question for the gentlemen that tip extra and before services. Do you get multis with that? One more question for everyone. We can all agree OS has the largest clientele in the state. How much lower of a % do you think the other places do compared to OS?

[QUOTE=Smoke Screen; 1148273]According to Assman's report, he paid the 60 house fee. That money is gone. Now the girl comes back and the negotiation starts. He offers 80, she counters with 200. 200 + 60=260. In my book that is upsell.

The only way we are going to agree is to agree to disagree. Fair enough?[/QUOTE]OS can present an assembly line feel some don't like, but upsell ripoff attempts? Uncommon.

200 TOTAL is clearly what she means. If he paid her the 60 and 140, we wouldn't be talking about the issue in here. It would help if he would I'd the girl, so I can judge language skills and attitude.

What are the statistical odds of an extreme lowball (underpriced) offer from a client. Then all of a sudden morphing into a complete (overpriced) ripoff upsell attempt? The odds of the combination simultaneously occuring. Are very low. Its obvious the lowball attempt itself has something to do with triggering the confusion around the 200 number.

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin; 1148310]OR, obviously, you are a person of great means, and in this shitty economy, I congratulate you for it and I also agree that the women at OS are in the upper echelon of "AMP-dum." I am also a person of some means, but the economy has taken its toll (actually we are in year 3, so it is impacting the reserves). I enjoy hot Korean women, but, at the same time, expect fair treatment, and I don't see that at OS. When I am with someone, she is mentally moving onto the next.

A question to you, have you ever received an hour in that place? The most I have ever got was about 40 mins. If you are going to be there a tad over a half hour, for $200, you might as well move on to a better alternative. Most escorts run $200 for the hour or longer? Perhaps a better way to go at a prorated hourly rate of $320 or so?

Based upon your report of the customer base, these chicks must be true fucking machines (no pun). With ALL that action, their attitude and performance (in spite of being a knock-out) has to suffer, and you become just another hard dick. Would it not be a better alternative to find a quieter place and actually mean something to the person you visit? On a related note, how many accidents also have happened?

I think OS is a great place, and it could be even better with better customer treatment and I do think, given their present get-them-in and get-them-out attitude, that $200 is plentisimo for anything the place has to offer.[/QUOTE]I nearly always get a full hour (even before I would pre-tip) , and this is based on when the girl herself shows up in the room. Sometimes I have them agree upfront as to time thing, by having us both acknowledge the start time. One exception was Julie, and I believe it was on the 2nd visit, where I kind of snuck in DATY, because she then went into finish mode, and I think she cut it short by 15 minutes, and she was really was mega-tipped (higher than usual, too high really) Julie of course is very very hot and has very strict rules, and doesn't like attempts to operate around her rules. However, I take great care never to exceed an hr with any girl, pointing it out ahead of time to the girl if and when it happens, when maybe 5% of the time some might just run over for whatever reason (Jenny went 1. 5 hrs first time I met her). If you respect them, generally they will respect you.

I find the OS girls in general fair about time, and maybe when its super busy its different. I happen to have a preference for Asian girls, so its all a bargain to me anyways. I like the Korean culture in terms of their modesty and minimalist attitudes and even the fairness thing seems ingrained with most, plus their schooling is far superior, with their high school grads probably more like our college grads in america. Now they do vary in terms of attitudes etc, but now and then you really hit it off, and it can make it so much better. I find many to be normal or close to normal women, engaged in a very odd profession, a bit different than typical american women doing something similar.

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin; 1148310]A question to you, have you ever received an hour in that place? The most I have ever got was about 40 mins. If you are going to be there a tad over a half hour, for $200, you might as well move on to a better alternative. Most escorts run $200 for the hour or longer? Perhaps a better way to go at a prorated hourly rate of $320 or so?

[/QUOTE]I visit OS once every month or two and have never been shorted on time. Twice I was there close to 90 min with a particular girl I saw multiple times. The difference is probably that I go during the day, when they are (relatively) slow. It's part of supply and demand that the girls an get away with short sessions when guys are lined up out the door. I have never had a problem with girls attitude, and Mamasan knows me by "name" even though I am 1 in a 1000 (if OR's numbers are accurate).

If you want to sample the lookers at OS but are put off by the factory atmosphere, I'd suggest heading there during the day if at all possible (ex. Prob lunch hour). Wouldn't you rather be the girl's first of the day instead of 10th, anyway?

[QUOTE=Tommy Anonymus; 1148511]I visit OS once every month or two and have never been shorted on time. Twice I was there close to 90 min with a particular girl I saw multiple times. The difference is probably that I go during the day, when they are (relatively) slow. It's part of supply and demand that the girls an get away with short sessions when guys are lined up out the door. I have never had a problem with girls attitude, and Mamasan knows me by "name" even though I am 1 in a 1000 (if OR's numbers are accurate).

If you want to sample the lookers at OS but are put off by the factory atmosphere, I'd suggest heading there during the day if at all possible (ex. Prob lunch hour). Wouldn't you rather be the girl's first of the day instead of 10th, anyway?[/QUOTE]Yours is a near unique tale. I have been shown the door very early and you claim hour and a half treatment. I do not believe anyone on the board has ever claimed that. However, I have never been there early in the morning either. However, I am willing to TOFFT on this and will visit next week, early morning, and will once again report back the experience.

Thank you for the tip.

[QUOTE=Liecam;1148412]We all do this for some different reasons. Some guys want to feel a little connection to the girl while others just want to bang a hot Asian girl. I do have a question for the gentlemen that tip extra and before services. Do you get multis with that? One more question for everyone. We can all agree OS has the largest clientele in the state. How much lower of a % do you think the other places do compared to OS?[/QUOTE]LOL, Well don't use me as the case study as to why we do this. I'm sure I am in the minority for sure! The way I see it is that I am looking for a relationship as close as I can get to having one of these girls as my real GF or wife without actually having that. So I generally will find one girl who clicks with me and then only see that one exclusively. In the last year and half I can count on less then one hand how many girls I have been with at my Fav AMP, and I go weekly sometimes more!

OS is for sure the leader in high volume Prov AMP business, there location plays a huge role in that and also the looks of the girls. I would guess that all the other Spa's are most likely doing half or less the business as OS. I have no urge whatsoever to explore OS even with the super model beauties reported there. I love the way I am treated at 1021 and feel like part of the "Family" there. For me its not only about the sex but more about the total experience and 1021 is by far the leader in my book for the total experience.

Muffy

[QUOTE=Liecam;1147741]I used to own a business on The Hill and every business owner and LE patrolling the streets know about OS. During one of the monthly Hill Association meetings some owners were complaining about the spas while some very successful restaurant owners were in favor of them. They said the gentlemen that come to Providence for business enjoy having everything right on one street, restaurants, bars and SPAS! As long as it doesn't create a problem for residents and business owners OS will be the last place to get shut down. Providence has a lot more important things to take care of like an $800 million deficit.[/QUOTE]OS pays protection money so they will not be closed down unless you have a real crusader in government.

Mongers wonder why they don't get bothered at some of the other spas in bad neighborhoods or the spa never gets robbed with all the cash they bring in each night. The reason is they pay protection money.

I guess great minds think alike. High pressure job, my relaxation time is spent at 1021 also.

I also like to find one Lady and stick with her. Both time and quality improve with multiple visits.

I never over tip money. I usually give small gifts to the girls. They really respond to them.

Tony.. :cool:



[QUOTE=Muffythediver; 1148655]LOL, Well don't use me as the case study as to why we do this. I'm sure I am in the minority for sure! . In the last year and half I can count on less then one hand how many girls I have been with at my Fav AMP, and I go weekly sometimes more!

OS is for sure the leader in high volume Prov AMP business, . I love the way I am treated at 1021 and feel like part of the "Family" there. For me its not only about the sex but more about the total experience and 1021 is by far the leader in my book for the total experience.

Muffy[/QUOTE]