[QUOTE=Shazbot1960;1132534]Did you get a name?[/QUOTE]No I didn't but she was the only girl there that afternoon.
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[QUOTE=Shazbot1960;1132534]Did you get a name?[/QUOTE]No I didn't but she was the only girl there that afternoon.
Ok, I've been there many times before since I frequent the area. This time was taken to the room by the mamasan's helper (don't know her official title) mid 30's a little chunky, looks a 6 IMHO. Was told girl is with another client and would be done shortly so I give you shower. Paid 60 and away we went. WOW! That was the best TS I ever had. She got right up on the table and worked everywhere. On the flip she started massaging the boys with one hand and washed all over with the other. I was at full attention throughout. She was all over and I was enjoying it.
To the room, in walks Sky. Mid 30's, semi tall with bolt-ons and a little flab in the belly. Told her I just wanted HJ. She said don't like HJ, want sex (I think she meant 'money') and was reluctant but proceeded. Overall good HJ in all positions. Paid her 60
Every time I go, there's something different. Kinda like that really good golf shot (for all you golfer's) that keeps you coming back. They normally have one-two girls working. Most of the the time they are fairly atractive.
I saw it driving by and thought I would check it out. They are on Buford Hwy, the next strip center over from Min Hua and have been in business for about 3 weeks.
They have a few massage chairs out front and half dozen rooms in back. The rooms are partitioned, spacious, with bifold doors. The Chinese lady appeared to be in her late 40's and gave an okay massage ($50 / hr). No extra's were implied or offered.
I was hoping 'H' meant happy ending, not so.
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lil-reds-brand-new-upscale-private-independent-atl-home-new-number-150-hr/6533991[/url]
Has anyone seen her. Is anything else on the menu?
Thanks
Based on Jaykusz's report, I checked out K Spa tonight. Had a similar experience with mamasan doing the shower since they were busy. Got to the room and put 120 on the table (60 for massage 60 for CBJ). About 10 min later Sky came in and took the money to the front, then came back and asked what I want. I told her BJ and she said OK.
I thought she looked great. Yes she has bolt ons but they are very nice IMO. I asked her age and she said she was 26. Probably about right. Her English is not good so conversation was in 2-3 word sentences. Massage was OK but the CBJ was nice. She cleaned me up nicely and helped me get dressed. She also said to make sure she does my shower next time.
I enjoyed myself and will return.
B
[QUOTE=Jaykusz; 1132939]Ok, I've been there many times before since I frequent the area. This time was taken to the room by the mamasan's helper (don't know her official title) mid 30's a little chunky, looks a 6 IMHO. Was told girl is with another client and would be done shortly so I give you shower. Paid 60 and away we went. WOW! That was the best TS I ever had. She got right up on the table and worked everywhere. On the flip she started massaging the boys with one hand and washed all over with the other. I was at full attention throughout. She was all over and I was enjoying it.
To the room, in walks Sky. Mid 30's, semi tall with bolt-ons and a little flab in the belly. Told her I just wanted HJ. She said don't like HJ, want sex (I think she meant 'money') and was reluctant but proceeded. Overall good HJ in all positions. Paid her 60
Every time I go, there's something different. Kinda like that really good golf shot (for all you golfer's) that keeps you coming back. They normally have one-two girls working. Most of the the time they are fairly atractive. [/QUOTE]
Look this isn't a JACK OFF SHACK it's a foot / massage place I heard about this place about a year from Nite, over on Boggs, I go there from time to time to get a REAL massage, so after ICE Lafox work me over real good I wanted to get a massage and relax some.
I went there and asked who been doing massages the longest the other girls I normally see are on "vacation" so I got this one lady that is in her 40's she was good BUT than half way her cell phone started buzzing? She pick it up and said "YOU TOO" I said WTF? She said sorry sorry this is the 1ST DAY OF CHINESE NEW YEARS from what I heard from the girls I know on face book it's a 15 day celebration so than she started doing some more massage.
I heard people making noise and acting like it's a got damn party in the lobby I asked her to make them keep the noise down, so she left and told them to keep it down she came back and like another 8mins they started making noise again! I told her you don't want me to get up from this table and go out there trust me! So she went back out there and they kept it down.
BUT than her got damn phone ring again it sounded like some OLD sucker on the phone I heard her say I am work now how long before you come see me? She had to say it a few more times I guess it's some old TRICK LOL I told her give me the fuckin phone I am sick of him running his mouth I am on the clock! And WHY you keep taking these damn calls?
She kept saying sorry sorry it's New Year sorry sorry FUCK THAT! I knew I that time I wasn't tipping her ass shit! That's the problem to many weak ass punks keep giving in to these girls tipping them because they don't want to cause trouble the hell with that! It's about RESPECT!
I am all for showing respect and being nice and all BUT once a chick start wasting my time and TAKING my money game over! ALL she had to do was call these people back AFTER my time was up! I hate these greedy ass chicks that work in these SPAS all of them are hungry greedy ass bit*hes
So than after people making noises and sounding like a party was going on and this chick kept picking up her cellphone I was done, so after the massage was over I got up and went to the front to pay CAN YOU BELIEVE this chick follow me to the front standing around like a puppy waiting for something to fall off the kitchen table to eat, I look around at the people that was making all the noise I ASKED WERE THE DAMN PARTY AT? After they looked up at my size they didn't say a word LOL.
I was about to walk out and the lady that gave me the massage said were is my tip? I said YOU TOOK TWO CALLS! When you was giving me a massage ask ONE of them were your tip is at.
The bottom line guys, this she took those calls because she had to be use to CLOWNS allowing her to get away with it, and not calling her on her BULLSHIT so next time when that phone rings she will think? Is it worth it.
So am I a JERK? Or a asshoe because I didn't tip her for her bad behavior? Who knows maybe some one thought I should have brought over some cupcakes or something LOL BUT I will never let a chick that should be giving me good service get away with any BS.
IF I go back and I will they will know when I walk in that I am NOT the one to fuck around with and give BS service.
Kid Cisco
[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1133829]Look this isn't a JACK OFF SHACK it's a foot / massage place I heard about this place about a year from Nite, over on Boggs, I go there from time to time to get a REAL massage, so after ICE Lafox work me over real good I wanted to get a massage and relax some.
I went there and asked who been doing massages the longest the other girls I normally see are on "vacation" so I got this one lady that is in her 40's she was good BUT than half way her cell phone started buzzing? She pick it up and said "YOU TOO" I said WTF? She said sorry sorry this is the 1ST DAY OF CHINESE NEW YEARS from what I heard from the girls I know on face book it's a 15 day celebration so than she started doing some more massage.
I heard people making noise and acting like it's a got damn party in the lobby I asked her to make them keep the noise down, so she left and told them to keep it down she came back and like another 8mins they started making noise again! I told her you don't want me to get up from this table and go out there trust me! So she went back out there and they kept it down.
BUT than her got damn phone ring again it sounded like some OLD sucker on the phone I heard her say I am work now how long before you come see me? She had to say it a few more times I guess it's some old TRICK LOL I told her give me the fuckin phone I am sick of him running his mouth I am on the clock! And WHY you keep taking these damn calls?
She kept saying sorry sorry it's New Year sorry sorry FUCK THAT! I knew I that time I wasn't tipping her ass shit! That's the problem to many weak ass punks keep giving in to these girls tipping them because they don't want to cause trouble the hell with that! It's about RESPECT!
I am all for showing respect and being nice and all BUT once a chick start wasting my time and TAKING my money game over! ALL she had to do was call these people back AFTER my time was up! I hate these greedy ass chicks that work in these SPAS all of them are hungry greedy ass bit*hes
So than after people making noises and sounding like a party was going on and this chick kept picking up her cellphone I was done, so after the massage was over I got up and went to the front to pay CAN YOU BELIEVE this chick follow me to the front standing around like a puppy waiting for something to fall off the kitchen table to eat, I look around at the people that was making all the noise I ASKED WERE THE DAMN PARTY AT? After they looked up at my size they didn't say a word LOL.
I was about to walk out and the lady that gave me the massage said were is my tip? I said YOU TOOK TWO CALLS! When you was giving me a massage ask ONE of them were your tip is at.
The bottom line guys, this she took those calls because she had to be use to CLOWNS allowing her to get away with it, and not calling her on her BULLSHIT so next time when that phone rings she will think? Is it worth it.
So am I a JERK? Or a asshoe because I didn't tip her for her bad behavior? Who knows maybe some one thought I should have brought over some cupcakes or something LOL BUT I will never let a chick that should be giving me good service get away with any BS.
IF I go back and I will they will know when I walk in that I am NOT the one to fuck around with and give BS service.
Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]LOL. That shit happens at every Chinese massage joint, regardless if it's Chinese New Year or not. None of these bytches have any manners, don't provide a HJ and then demand a tip, which is why I stopped going to them. BTW, Big Money will probably be the only monger to tell you that you did something wrong here. That's what he specializes in. Twisted logic. Anyone else can recognize the simple fact that you did nothing wrong and had a shitty provider with no fuckin' manners.
If more guys would have the balls to confront these bytches in the lobby when it's tip time and loudly let all customers and employees present know the specific reasons for not tipping, perhaps the tide would turn the other way. Glad you didn't take any shit from her.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1133843]LOL. That shit happens at every Chinese massage joint, regardless if it's Chinese New Year or not. None of these bytches have any manners, don't provide a HJ and then demand a tip, which is why I stopped going to them. BTW, Big Money will probably be the only monger to tell you that you did something wrong here. That's what he specializes in. Twisted logic. Anyone else can recognize the simple fact that you did nothing wrong and had a shitty provider with no fuckin' manners.
If more guys would have the balls to confront these bytches in the lobby when it's tip time and loudly let all customers and employees present know the specific reasons for not tipping, perhaps the tide would turn the other way. Glad you didn't take any shit from her.[/QUOTE]They know how desperate most atlanta men are so they treat then like crap. Cause these always 100 more begging fro expensive crappy service.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1133843]LOL. That shit happens at every Chinese massage joint, regardless if it's Chinese New Year or not. None of these bytches have any manners, don't provide a HJ and then demand a tip, which is why I stopped going to them. BTW, Big Money will probably be the only monger to tell you that you did something wrong here. That's what he specializes in. Twisted logic. Anyone else can recognize the simple fact that you did nothing wrong and had a shitty provider with no fuckin' manners.
[/QUOTE]If you are asking me what I would do, then I'll tell you what has worked for me by being a "nice guy" to the ladies.
Like you say this happens regardless, I will tell the chick that she "owes" me in my own congenial way. But this "twisted logic" only works if you are a regular with the same chick. Oh I forget, that doesn't happen here in Atlanta, which is why some of you guys can't think past your current hard-on.
Since the chick knows I will come back and see her, she usually "makes up" for it. I've had chicks that won't touch another guys nuts but will offer me a free BBBJ, because.....Yep, being nice to them. I've had chicks that will only give most guys the alloted time, but give me extra time to take a nap after I cum in her mouth, and will wake me up with another BBBJ to see if I can get up, because.....Yep, being nice to them. I've had the same chicks that only offer FS, but offer me greek, because.....Yep, being nice to them. And yes, all these are at the same price as everyone else pays or cheaper since I built up a relationship and a "nice guy" reputation with them. I've also had chicks "make up" to me when I will give them 120 or 140, and she says I'm short, then I will say "Oh I forgot, I had to stop and get some gas, and BTW, you remember that you "owe" me?"-and yes, I get away with that sometimes, because.....Yep, by being a nice guy to them and mamasan.
And this is not just in Houston, but I'm currently building a list of regulars here in Atlanta as well as some of you who have PM'ed know. The only thing that will f* it up is if some dick give her a hard time and she leaves, leaving only the older fuglies to work here that I read so much about. And the same guys wonder why the talent level has dropped here in Atlanta while the prices keep going up? So if this "twisted logic" does not make sense to you, then you are thinking with your little head rather than your big head.
Also, I never go just for a massage. I always go with a bigger intention of getting more in the following rounds. If I don't think it will happen, then I don't go back. Plain and simple. And I don't have to be a dick about it.
I can't promise that my "nice guy" routine will work for everyone, but at the same time, I haven't read many Atlanta guys trying it. It has worked for me to have less drama, more consistent service, and sometimes cheaper prices.
Since I know you guys like to have the last word, I'll leave it as that, as I'm not totally consumed by this hobby.
Went to Gold when I got the run around from a provider (Tatiana. Info under CL Reviews). Parked in back, got out my car and mamasan met me at the door. She ask the usual question if I've been there before told her yes although it was my first time there. She proceeds to lead me to this one room right across from the door until I ask for a line up. Then she takes me to a room with 3 chairs and has me wait. She gets all the girls together and bring them in. I give them a good look over but most are looking away. One just stared at me and smiled, so I picked her. Her name is Sky. As I was leaving the viewing area, mamasan tries to upsell me on 2 girls. Told her next time and Sky leads me back to a different room than where they tried to take me at first. Soon as we in the room we begin negotiating. She ask what I want and I say everything. She ask how much I have and I told her $.60 she shakes her head saying HJ is $, BJ is $$ and FS is $$$. I told her I got FS for $.60 last time I was there. She said no those were the rates, I said no I paid only $.60. We went back and forth then I said well I can go to St James. She says she will ask if she can do it for that rate. She leaves and comes back to get the. 60 house, I ask if she going to do it for the $. She ask if I had anything more I say only. 20 more. She leaves again and then comes back saying I'm so special and agrees to the $.20. I give her the house fee and the tip. She ask if I want a TS and I say sure. She leaves then comes back saying she sorry but because its so little money she can't do TS or massage, only FS and go. She made it sound like the mamasan told her she couldn't do it. Not sure if its true or not but I was slightly annoyed by this, even though I did not really want the TS or the half ass massage and only wanted a release it just sat uneasy with me. I didn't figure it was worth haggling over so I told her fine and she leaves again. I undress and lay on the table she comes in and undresses and wipes me up with a warm towel. Then we get to business. She was very accomodating and nice throughout the entire process. Positions: CBJ, cg, and rcg. I let my load go and she cleaned me up. After I get dress she keeps stressing the fact about the $$$ for future and how she will give me TS and massage too. I say ok and walk on out. Mamasan ask how was it I said ok, grab a mint and walk on out.
I guess I'm not at the level Kid C is with getting the TS, massage, and FS for $.60 but I will work on it. All in all, it a good experience.
Strange thing. There was a guy sitting in his car on the passenger side when I pulled up and when I left. Looked like he was reading a paper or something.
[QUOTE=Big Money; 1133873]If you are asking me what I would do, then I'll tell you what has worked for me by being a "nice guy" to the ladies.
Like you say this happens regardless, I will tell the chick that she "owes" me in my own congenial way. But this "twisted logic" only works if you are a regular with the same chick. Oh I forget, that doesn't happen here in Atlanta, which is why some of you guys can't think past your current hard-on.
Since the chick knows I will come back and see her, she usually "makes up" for it. I've had chicks that won't touch another guys nuts but will offer me a free BBBJ, because. Yep, being nice to them. I've had chicks that will only give most guys the alloted time, but give me extra time to take a nap after I cum in her mouth, and will wake me up with another BBBJ to see if I can get up, because. Yep, being nice to them. I've had the same chicks that only offer FS, but offer me greek, because. Yep, being nice to them. And yes, all these are at the same price as everyone else pays or cheaper since I built up a relationship and a "nice guy" reputation with them. I've also had chicks "make up" to me when I will give them 120 or 140, and she says I'm short, then I will say "Oh I forgot, I had to stop and get some gas, and BTW, you remember that you "owe" me?"-and yes, I get away with that sometimes, because. Yep, by being a nice guy to them and mamasan.
And this is not just in Houston, but I'm currently building a list of regulars here in Atlanta as well as some of you who have PM'ed know. The only thing that will f* it up is if some dick give her a hard time and she leaves, leaving only the older fuglies to work here that I read so much about-and wonder why the talent level has dropped here in Atlanta while the prices keep going up? So if this "twisted logic" does not make sense to you, then you guys keep thinking with your little head rather than your big head.
Also, I never go just for a massage. I always go with a bigger intention of getting more in the following rounds. If I don't think it will happen, then I don't go back. Plain and simple. And I don't have to be a dick about it.
Since I know you guys like to have the last word, I'll leave it as that, as I'm not totally consumed by this hobby. [/QUOTE]LOL LOL LOL
Look Big Money there isn't no who gets the last word it's about facts and the truth you do what's work for you, and trust me you NOT the 1st guy to get freebies and greek, and all that other stuff from these chicks and you won't be the last you say you get ALL those things for being nice I will say I GET ALL THOSE THINGS because I am a damn good looking dude LOL 6'5 240lbs, no fancy haircut BUT a nice fresh cut and I smell good too LOL LOL LOL that's WHY I get shit from these chicks lol many of them love when they see me coming in with a huge smile on their face.
BUT, the bottom line here is I normally go to this place NOT to fuck or get a hand job as a matter of fact my lady sometimes goes there too after long hikes etc, so I am NOT looking for extra service I am sure some OLD broken down nice trick my get his meat slap around some for being a nice guy and tipping well BUT I DON'T WANT THAT! All I want is respect! Not taking fucking calls when I am on the clock! Laying face down on a massage table! Not having people laughing making LOUD noises when I am there trying to relax as a matter of fact when I WENT out there people was sitting around dress up like they were going or coming from a damn party, I asked were is the damn party since everyone had something to say early no one said a word.
To me this shows NO respect to their friends business or the people that goes to see their friends business and I am the type of person that don't have a problem telling them WHO AND WHAT AND WHY!
All that chick had to do was turn her phone OFF and after my time was up she could have return ALL calls she miss, BUT she showed NO respect to me or her job for showing me NO respect NOT ONCE but TWICE!
I couldn't live with myself IF I didn't speak up and tell her what the fuck I wasn't happy about, I would have been ANOTHER kiss ass nice simp ass sucker IF I would have tip her or didn't tell her what I wasn't happy about.
NICE GUY? What that means? For some it will mean to get walked on to get step on, hell I am a nice person to whoever is nice to me and respect me and I can be a MONSTER if someone take me for a sucker that's the problem with most American males they became MOIST and sissy like, half the shit these Korean and Chinese women do to us they wouldn't dare try that same shit on a STRONG Asian male.
I have seen American guys get played 100 times in Rio get robbed get con get their shit stolen from their hotel rooms because they were so SWEET AND NICE and SOFT and I seen Brazilian guys telling off Brazilian women and Brazilian women respect Brazilian males the same thing in Rome other places I been to BUT in the USA you have so many trickin ass SIMPS here that put up with being mistreated by these ho's, I watched my Father growing up getting into Motherfuckers asses for not giving him respect or not waiting on him when he was standing there 1st, maybe that's were I got it from he told me a person will do to you ONLY what you allow them to do to you.
And as far as you saying keep seeing the same girl over again IF you read my post you will see I asked for the girls I normally would see BUT they were gone on "vacation" when I go there I tip well as a matter of fact new girls would almost break their necks to see me saying I will do you she is busy etc. I would wait or come back later because I will see the same person over again when it comes to a REAL massage.
IF I want to fuck I won't see the same chick more than a few times I like to fuck different chicks I already have a lady I do all the time, I go and see ho's for some different ass.
Kid Cisco
I have not seen little Red yet but talked to her last night. She charges
$100 for a therapeutic massage in negligee. Don't know if there is a HE or not.
$150 for sensual massage (body / body I think)
$180 for a scrub down together in the shower as well.
She works out of an apt complex at the I85 / shallowford exit. I have no doubt she gives a very good massage. Like you are wondering, I have no idea how far the extras go.
B.
[QUOTE=SpaJunkie; 1133370][url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lil-reds-brand-new-upscale-private-independent-atl-home-new-number-150-hr/6533991[/url]
Has anyone seen her. Is anything else on the menu?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nevamind;1133885]She gets all the girls together and bring them in. I give them a good look over but most are looking away. One just stared at me and smiled, so I picked her. [/QUOTE]That is an interesting observation. I saw that at Gold too when I ask for the lineup and that most of the girls are looking away like they have something else better to do. I'm wondering if that's the standard attitude that most of these girls have at Gold. When I go to other spas, they have a nice smile MOST OF THE TIME (at least when I go during the afternoons). If the chicks at Gold are going to have the attitude like that, and also with us mongers of having to negotiate the price to $.6 every time someone goes (obviously with the exception of the few that can walk-in and not have to haggle the price down) , I might rather just stick with the other spas. Granted Gold has the younger, nicer looking girls than the others spas, however, they seem to have the most attitude. Most of the spas I've been going to up in the north (Roswell, Alpahretta area) are 5-7's but at least I get the same good service (sometimes great) and no bullshizat hassle for $.6 unlike Gold.
I guess my question would be is it really worth the hassle to get a nicer looking spinner with an attitude (like her shit don't stink) and fighting for 5-10 mins over the $.6 fee (and that's if she agrees)? If successfully negotiated with the girl $.6, will I at least get decent service or will she be pissed off because I'm not giving her the normal compensation she is use to getting up front and will her service be worse because she is getting less money? I'm sure I can yell at her like KC says when demanding respect, but that's more work on top of what us mongers are already doing.
Tricking ain't suppose to be easy but at same time, it doesn't suppose to be this hard either. I'm not going to hit up Gold until after a couple of months to give it a shot again but so far, the north is treating me good with service and smiles. I just hope they get better looking girls with the $.6 I pay.
Okay BigMoney you've made your point about being a nice guy and I agree with you for the most part. Tell me how your "nice guy" technique would work on a hood rat masquerading as an BP escort? BTW, I don't think your "nice guy" technique would ever work on a hood rat and it's best to stay well away from 'em completely.
[QUOTE=Big Money; 1133873]If you are asking me what I would do, then I'll tell you what has worked for me by being a "nice guy" to the ladies.
Like you say this happens regardless, I will tell the chick that she "owes" me in my own congenial way. But this "twisted logic" only works if you are a regular with the same chick. Oh I forget, that doesn't happen here in Atlanta, which is why some of you guys can't think past your current hard-on.
Since the chick knows I will come back and see her, she usually "makes up" for it. I've had chicks that won't touch another guys nuts but will offer me a free BBBJ, because. Yep, being nice to them. I've had chicks that will only give most guys the alloted time, but give me extra time to take a nap after I cum in her mouth, and will wake me up with another BBBJ to see if I can get up, because. Yep, being nice to them. I've had the same chicks that only offer FS, but offer me greek, because. Yep, being nice to them. And yes, all these are at the same price as everyone else pays or cheaper since I built up a relationship and a "nice guy" reputation with them. I've also had chicks "make up" to me when I will give them 120 or 140, and she says I'm short, then I will say "Oh I forgot, I had to stop and get some gas, and BTW, you remember that you "owe" me?"-and yes, I get away with that sometimes, because. Yep, by being a nice guy to them and mamasan. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShortFoot;1134181]Okay BigMoney you've made your point about being a nice guy and I agree with you for the most part. Tell me how your "nice guy" technique would work on a hood rat masquerading as an BP escort? BTW, I don't think your "nice guy" technique would ever work on a hood rat and it's best to stay well away from 'em completely.[/QUOTE]Again the "nice guy" technique only works if you are building regularity with the provider. But if your goal is to f*ck a new chick each time, then you will never understand the logic or think it is "twisted logic".
When you say "hood rats", I assume you mean the FIB SWs type, which most are not smart enough to understand what is a repeating customer, much less the advantages for them to have a regular clientele, or a stable place to work? So no, "nice guy" technique will not work for "hood rats".
But the AMP chicks are a little smarter in that they have a place where the customers can return to see her again later. It is essentially the same marketing as McDonald's where you don't have to have the best burgers, but you have to have the same burgers. And the customer knows that they are readily available most of the time.
If you go into an AMP with the same attitude as going to an FIB SW, then why should the AMP chick treat you any differently than a hood rat SW?
If you go into an AMP with the attitude that you are building your own list of regulars, then the AMP chick has a vested interest in treating you better than the SW.
After your first session with the AMP chick, which can be great or not, you might mention that you like BBBJ, and say I might come back to see you again if you give me a BBBJ. She might hem or haw at that, or she might say that is an extra 40 or so. But you just say you are not that rich, or "toan op so yo" (Korean for "I don't have money"). A gringo that can learn a few of these Korean phrases can go a long ways to building a "nice guy" connection with these K-chicks. This shows that you are willing to reach out to them instead of "I'm going to get mine regardless and f*ck everyone else".
This is how I have built up a list of more than 20 regulars that I've been able to get away with for 100 or less and no less than a BBBJ and FS and sometimes greek. And I'm still working on my list of regulars here in Atlanta for 160 or less.
I don't want to give away all of my "nice guy" techniques, but instead I hope you can build your own "nice guy" techniques based on your own personality.