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[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5341888]For newer folks who are just getting started, I highly recommend visiting the Richmond, Virginia sugar thread. You'll find exceptional advice on every step of the way.

Here are a few guidelines that have helped me determine real profiles from fake ones:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4fae42ed-5c75-414f-81a2-dc28e1058650[/URL]

This is porn star Violet Monroe's real sugar profile. As you can see, she's held her account since 2018, fills out most of her stats. And provides fully and coherently written "About Me" and "Seeking" sections.

On the other hand, here's another profile which I've screenshotted, as I don't expect it to last more than a week, tops, before it disappears in the site's constant whack-a-mole of fake profiles:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e15478a5-60bc-459c-b5aa-c537a24b0f68[/URL]

Seeking always shows the profile's log in location, which in this case, is Latvia. The profile's location is California City, a small town of 14,000 in northern Antelope Valley, half of whose population are Venezuelan, Nigerian, and Eastern European Instagram models. Those models really love the desert. The nearby prison and air force base are also 'gram worthy.

The "About Me" section is exactly one sentence. No "Seeking" description to mention.

Should you message the latter profile, you are guaranteed to have an effort made to have you send money electronically "to see if you're serious" "to buy an outfit for our date," "for gas," "for an overdue bill," etc etc.[/QUOTE]You'll naturally get a taste of real vs fake profiles as you go along. Imo you can simplify this all to 1 simple golden rule.

1) Do not (under LITERALLY ANY circumstances) send money before meeting.

Thats the only rule you need to not waste your time or be scammed. Message any girl you find hot, long bio or not. In my experience the best girls have been ones with almost no bio and like 1 or 2 pics max. They're usually new and don't have GPS. So I just think that advice is bad.

The general insight that "California City", or any girl from Venezuela etc. Is a fake profile scammer is absolutely true. But one line profiles can be gems more often than not.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5341931]Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.[/QUOTE]Glad I like AA girls. Was always my preference. White girls got me into too much trouble. And early on I did spend a lot more. And I did spend an insane amount of time figuring it all out. It was like a full time job at one point. Plus just the huge number of dates. Wish I had learned all this stuff at a much younger age.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5341931]Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.[/QUOTE]Also if they are new to sugaring, 18 or 19 or 20, live with their parents or in the dorms. All those things keep the costs down. Daddy issues. Insecure. The list goes on. And for sure AA are less but there are plenty of affordable latinas/mixed and dark skinned asian as well.

I had to share it just cracked me up. "Good day, how are you doing, I am half African and fortunate to have gold and diamond in a land I inherited from my late parents. I am looking for an investor that I can work with. Hope we can go long way. Unfortunately been having problems logging on here so it will be golden if we can text or talk on email. " Have had two Latina's in the last week for 1. 5 one with the tightest p I think I have ever experienced. One with mad BJ skills. Both cute, a little round, but fun. I am playing with increasing my donation but not getting bites from the girls that I would be willing to do that with. I think or hope that there is still a supply and demand issue going on. Girls still feeling like giving it up during the pandemic is more valuable. As things continue to open up, their valuable p will depreciate.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5344552]I had to share it just cracked me up. "Good day, how are you doing, I am half African and fortunate to have gold and diamond in a land I inherited from my late parents. I am looking for an investor that I can work with. Hope we can go long way. Unfortunately been having problems logging on here so it will be golden if we can text or talk on email. " Have had two Latina's in the last week for 1. 5 one with the tightest p I think I have ever experienced. One with mad BJ skills. Both cute, a little round, but fun. I am playing with increasing my donation but not getting bites from the girls that I would be willing to do that with. I think or hope that there is still a supply and demand issue going on. Girls still feeling like giving it up during the pandemic is more valuable. As things continue to open up, their valuable p will depreciate.[/QUOTE]Just over 3 months until universities start in-person classes and fill up the dorms for us.

I think that will be the turning point.

[URL]https://www.lmu.edu/academics/provost/communications/letters/lmutoreopenfall2021/[/URL]

Thanks Dr Poon. (seriously, that's his name. I like this guy).

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5343706]White girls got me into too much trouble. And early on I did spend a lot more. And I did spend an insane amount of time figuring it all out. It was like a full time job at one point. Plus just the huge number of dates. Wish I had learned all this stuff at a much younger age.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Both cute, a little round, but fun. I am playing with increasing my donation but not getting bites from the girls that I would be willing to do that with. I think or hope that there is still a supply and demand issue going on. Girls still feeling like giving it up during the pandemic is more valuable. As things continue to open up, their valuable p will depreciate. [/QUOTE]White and Asian American girls, particularly beautiful, athletic and model types, tend to expect larger allowances, as they are in higher demand. You can also get lower allowances for "Manager's Special" cuts of pork round: the fatter, trashier girls, and women over the hill. The average starting proposals I'm seeing right now are between 300-500 per date for the good-looking girls of all ethnicities.

In all cases, you will come across outliers, be they fat girls who look like Grimace from McDonalds asking for 2000 per meet, or gorgeous clean white girls who will give it up for free.

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5344791]White and Asian American girls, particularly beautiful, athletic and model types, tend to expect larger allowances, as they are in higher demand. In all cases, you will come across outliers (for less), or gorgeous clean white girls who will give it up for free.[/QUOTE]I do agree with this edited portion

I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5346348]I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.[/QUOTE]I've come across different types in my own experience. Some were hustle-minded sharks at all times, and these I quickly send packing, while others compartmentalized their behaviors and were sweet and attentive with me, and business minded while dancing. I found no difference in this regard between active or former dancers.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5346348]I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.[/QUOTE]While strippers would not be my first (or second) choice of SB, go in like you would any type of relationship with women. Know your boundaries, what your expectations are, and act accordingly. If she crosses the lines or doesn't meet your expectations just NEXT her. You're the man here so you're in charge of the interaction. Show some leadership and tell her what you need and if she can't deliver you move on. It's pretty simple. Too many guys let the girls take charge and that can only lead to disaster. She wants you to visit the club? Fuck that! She wants an advance? See you later! She wants to go slow? My time is valuable (i don't work at the mall like most SBs)!

You get the picture.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5346348]I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.[/QUOTE]Is she a struggling baby stripper or an experienced pro? Big difference. I agree that strippers are far from my 1st, 2nd or even third choice of SB. Unless she is like 18 or 19 and fresh / new to the scene.

So some sugar daddy posted stories about all of his dates. Must be real cause I have experienced many of the same issues.

[URL]www.sugarbaby411.com[/URL]

I was banned from SA a few years back. SA will never see my money again.

Anyways, I setup a free SA account so I can browse profiles.

Here are the loopholes I used to setup the free profile:

1. Burner phone.

2. Accessed SA, through SA website only, on phone network.

3. No picture.

Free profile worked for over 6 months.

I tried to logon to SA after inactivity of a month. Was informed "Profile was deleted. ".

Deleted due to inactivity or SA deleted because, SA found out I was banned?

[QUOTE=Happtrav;5349227]I was banned from SA a few years back. SA will never see my money again.

Anyways, I setup a free SA account so I can browse profiles.

Here are the loopholes I used to setup the free profile:

1. Burner phone.

2. Accessed SA, through SA website only, on phone network.

3. No picture.

Free profile worked for over 6 months.

I tried to logon to SA after inactivity of a month. Was informed "Profile was deleted. ".

Deleted due to inactivity or SA deleted because, SA found out I was banned?[/QUOTE]I'd guess they got tired of you freeloading. And I don't understand the utility of browsing profiles if you are never going to pay to be able to message a girl.

[QUOTE=Happtrav;5349227]I was banned from SA a few years back. SA will never see my money again.

Anyways, I setup a free SA account so I can browse profiles.

Here are the loopholes I used to setup the free profile:

1. Burner phone.

2. Accessed SA, through SA website only, on phone network.

3. No picture.

Free profile worked for over 6 months.

I tried to logon to SA after inactivity of a month. Was informed "Profile was deleted. ".

Deleted due to inactivity or SA deleted because, SA found out I was banned?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5349283]I'd guess they got tired of you freeloading. And I don't understand the utility of browsing profiles if you are never going to pay to be able to message a girl.[/QUOTE]I've never been banned and have had a free account for a couple of years with no problem. As far as window shopping, I do that with tryst, p411 (Yeah. I pay for that one), and all the sites that have hookers. There's plenty of reasons to cross reference SA without needing to message the chicks.