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[QUOTE=Bran001;5526493]Exactly. This notion that men offering "too much" ruin it for other men is rooted in the 1990's.[/QUOTE]If anything it's more true now than ever, since the SBs have raised their demands so high collectively due to the internet. The men that pay so much can afford it regardless, but the small percent of men fulfilling those demands reinforces the SBs ridiculous standards that the majority of men will not be meeting.
[QUOTE=TheList00;5526829]What is it with you dudes and finding old ladies on a site with so much young pussy.[/QUOTE]Love if you can share some that you have seen. Spread the love. Otherwise to each his own.
[QUOTE=JohnTies;5526501]Wanted to add that the expectations of the girls on Seeking now are over the top ridiculous because of all the propaganda spread by these supposed pro SB's online.
Before could go out have dinner, drinks, do something like a real date then go back to her place, hotel, etc and spend a few hours maybe the night together.
I would pay for everything, they had a fun time, good sex, and would give them a few 2-400 and they were ecstatic.
Now I get you need to pay me for first meet, buy me gifts to get my attention, I want 600,800, 1,000 for a coupe of hours.
Also take me to this expensive restaurant, etc. Then they do not want to have sex, do not want to have a fun time out and want to leave in an hour or two.
Fuck that and fuck them! If and when I go back I will be searching away from the city for girls who actually appreciate what goes on and you.
Not these jaded, money grubbing hoes around the city.[/QUOTE]This is the same as hiring someone, they want the best and we want a good employee that is honest and fair. I have interviewed so many people in my real job over the last year that are no where qualified, just like the SB life, so many want something for nothing.
It is hard getting through all the "noise" lately and finding someone decent, in both avenues of life right now.
[QUOTE=Patriarchist;5527703]If anything it's more true now than ever, since the SBs have raised their demands so high collectively due to the internet. The men that pay so much can afford it regardless, but the small percent of men fulfilling those demands reinforces the SBs ridiculous standards that the majority of men will not be meeting.[/QUOTE]Worst time on there right now. Like guys know you use to be able to see hot girls for no more then 400. I saw models for 150 to 300 ppm a few years back. Now it's 300 for a platonic date then 800 for the bedroom. I saw one girl last year for 150 and she tells me now guys are paying her 500 for dinner!
[QUOTE=Tribeca67;5528130]Worst time on there right now. Like guys know you use to be able to see hot girls for no more then 400. I saw models for 150 to 300 ppm a few years back. Now it's 300 for a platonic date then 800 for the bedroom. I saw one girl last year for 150 and she tells me now guys are paying her 500 for dinner![/QUOTE]These girls aren't getting 300 for a platonic date. It's bs. They just say that as negotiating point and to make themselves feel good. They're not getting 800 for FS, either. Freeze 'them out and check back in a couple of weeks. I've gone this route and it's amazing how quickly the price drops. Not to nothing, but at least 30% less in my experience.
[QUOTE=SteveInMa428;5527525]Hey guys; Just a fair warning; Do NOT go see Cupcake out of Tewksbury / Lowell. Its a set up. After months of chatting back and forth and her whining I decided I'd give her a shot. Drove 45 minutes to see her at a popular hotel in Tewksbury right off the highway. Upon entering the room, go a big hug. I then walked into the bathroom to check things out and found a person hiding in the bath tub. I immediately kicked the guy in the head with my steel toed sneaker (blood right away! I told her to fuck off and thanked her for wasting my time! As I was walking out the guy came out and wanted to attack me. He changed his mind when I walked towards him. He ran back in the room and slammed the door. Buh bye!!
I can't post the link as I am no longer a member of SA. Just look her up. BAD news!![/QUOTE]Bravo. Glad to hear your instincts were on point. They both deserved a lot more.
[QUOTE=JohnTies;5526494]I go on Reddit and visit that forum and couple others about sugar life. It cracks me up.
Have been on a SB one also, there are some women on all these forums who spread propaganda about how much money.
They get for having dinner, gifts, etc and not having to have sex all the time. The new interested girls / women all buy it without issue.
There is also supposed SB's on tik tok who tell the girls what to do and how much they should be getting.
Many also perpetuate the lie that you can have a SD and not have to have sex in order to get money, gifts, etc.
Have actually met some newbies who were following what they were told to do on first meets.
When I suggested we go to another place since we were hitting it off, "she told me we had already spent to much time together for a first meet and she should go".[/QUOTE]Here's the thing. The girls who are delusional enough to believe everything they read or hear from these forums and tik tok were never your target SBs. You have to weed out a substantial number of fakes / toe-dippers / princesses to find the gems.
My first SB asked for 300 in an area where the lower-end of PPM was 400. I actually upped her to 400 because she was so amazing for my needs, extremely flexible, loyal, and fun to be with. I didn't want to lose her to some other schmuck who would offer a lot more. And indeed, she said she got higher offers but she stuck with me because our chemistry was good.
I had to go through hundreds of messages, dozens of m&gs to find 3 viable SBs. And even then, life happens and sometimes you cannot continue the SR for various reasons.
If you are unable to find a SB it is either because you are lowballing or your profile / messaging is not seductive enough. Just because you are offering an insane salary does not mean everyone suddenly wants to jump on your d.
Mutual attraction enhances sex a million-fold and if you are just looking for a dead-fish fuck go and find a regular escort, don't go looking for a sugar baby then complain about the outrageous prices. It is outrageous, to be sure, but it's been that way since the beginning of time. Sex work is one of the most lucrative things one can do with no real qualifications.
[QUOTE=Patriarchist;5527703]If anything it's more true now than ever, since the SBs have raised their demands so high collectively due to the internet. The men that pay so much can afford it regardless, but the small percent of men fulfilling those demands reinforces the SBs ridiculous standards that the majority of men will not be meeting.[/QUOTE]The sex market for men has been "winner-take-most" for most if not all of human history. I for one am grateful that one can substitute $$$ for brute strength and sexual attractiveness in the modern era. If we were living in another time these hot girls would not even look at you despite how much $ you are willing to shell out.
Anyone talked to her? Texted a bit. Her story seems inconsistent like a scam bit she hasnt hit me up for cash or anything so tryi g to figure out what her angle is.
[QUOTE=Lily1234;5528808]Anyone talked to her? Texted a bit. Her story seems inconsistent like a scam bit she hasnt hit me up for cash or anything so tryi g to figure out what her angle is.[/QUOTE]What story does she give? I was going to message her; can see if we get the same story LOL.
I've been talking to this chick on snap. Likes the fact I'm local and just moved to the area and really knows nobody. Meeting tomorrow or Tuesday, seems cool, looks good and I got a good price of it. I don't have her seeking name or link because my buddy is the one who got her snapchat and just sent me the snap name to message but here's a pic that she sent me via snap.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5529323]What story does she give? I was going to message her; can see if we get the same story LOL.[/QUOTE]She sent photos that I was able to match to some I found online. No way the photos are her. Then when we planned I time to meet, asked for money to do her nails or get gas or some other bullshit. Now disappeared. Basically another scammer trying to get money sent to her. But she's more patient in chatting to try to seem legit.
Saw this insta and now the behavior makes sense. Instead of being equals in this game SBs now think of us daddy's as shit and ATMs. I see the creator says it's all made up but if you read comments from women it shows that they believe it.
Oh the headache this creates.
[QUOTE=AzngrlLuvr;5527112]Here's another one for you and will open your eyes to what these SB's are all about. Check out at theclownlife on Instagram. Her IG is public.
[URL]https://instagram.com/theclownlife?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL][/QUOTE]
No one is paying these bitches for platonic dates. I mean. Who the fuck would do that? I could get plenty of hot chicks to hang out if they knew I didn't expect them to fuck. Even if you read the threads on Sugar Lifestyle Forum on Reddit they're pretty clear with newbie sugar babies that you will be fucking if you want to find a sugar daddy. In fact, in many threads I've seen sugar babies and sugar daddies tell women that if you're not into oral or anal this ain't for you.
[QUOTE=suaimmagine;5528349]These girls aren't getting 300 for a platonic date. It's bs. They just say that as negotiating point and to make themselves feel good. They're not getting 800 for FS, either. Freeze 'them out and check back in a couple of weeks. I've gone this route and it's amazing how quickly the price drops. Not to nothing, but at least 30% less in my experience.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lily1234;5529550]She sent photos that I was able to match to some I found online. No way the photos are her. Then when we planned I time to meet, asked for money to do her nails or get gas or some other bullshit. Now disappeared. Basically another scammer trying to get money sent to her. But she's more patient in chatting to try to seem legit.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, they are getting smarter by long roping for a venmo or cashapp (and smarter that the photos on their profile are doctored which makes them harder to cross reference in search), because you'll also probably be less likely to report them after a day or two of sweet talking as supposed to within the first 10 minutes asking, 'Hey, can you send me $25? I'll send you nudes!