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[QUOTE=Benz1;6102543]Nobody was smarter than Tedbear, just ask him!

HangLow hero, for the few who listened!

I'll stick with my FaceBook UTRs.
Stay safe[/QUOTE]Bro,

Thanks for shout. But all I ben doing is sounding warning. Trying a help y'all. I seen this before in Texas. Now maybe it here. Pray boss lady erase video and records. Maybe white nights still on video and data. They all come at me but now they all silent. Hanglow even try an help boss lady but she no want to hear about police informant she have round her. Now maybe she don't be angry be smart. This worse then I thought. Is hanglow hero? Hell no. I am the walrus.

[QUOTE=YouCon45;6061187]I usually don't defend myself because I don't care what other people think, but I am going to now.

I made an appointment to see Lauren coms good like always I walk in the door and Hunter throws me out! Because she thinks I am hanglow. Now I really don't care what she thinks but I have been nothing but nice to her. Today is my birthday I got done with work early so I thought I would give myself a present and see Lauren.

But then I get tossed still can't understand why hunter thinks it but what ever. It is sad that now the providers that work there are not able to see clients that they have a good reputation with because of what hunter thinks.

And this is to hanglow thanks for F'n up my birthday I really appreciate that!

I guess that's the end..[/QUOTE][URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/283735756302[/URL]

Hey bro Youcon.

Is this the Lauren y'all wanted to see for birthday? Hanglow hope it ain't other Lauren that has Adam's apple.

Hanglow, sorry if y'all got booted because a me. I'm not wanting to cock, block yall. But what make Lauren special to yall? Ain't there other girls to see that as good, or better? If hanglow want to see her how get appointment with her? Youcon a good bro and need see good girls. Not cancel girls. Is hanglow sorry y'all got booted? Yes. I am sorry. I am the walrus.

Hey Ekko,

Well done. For a first review this is excellent. You contributed and covered important info, but didn't oversell. I like it and look forward to reading more posts from you. I can't offer much to answer your questions, but hopefully others can. For the combination of an actual massage with good BJ, based on those I've seen, I'd recommend Saisha at Royal Touch--but she's not Asian. They have Asian providers there, but they also have other providers there that will do HE (pretty sure all of them will), but not necessarily BJ. I've seen 3 providers there and gotten just HE from the other two besides Saisha. Saisha is a curvy Latina that, IMO, is quite attractive. I think when it comes to MPs, anywhere that offers BJ is going to be more expensive than what you tipped Joy and this is true of Saisha. But she's really good at what she does, again IMO. As we often say, YMMV.

[QUOTE=Ekko131;6101546]Hey all,

First time posting on here and I took some recommendations as I'm going pretty new to the hobby. Took a chance on Joy since some have left both positive and negative reviews of her.

But I wanted to add to the positives since she was a great time. Called over the phone and setup an appointment for 45 minutes after I called. When I got there parking was easy, building discreet, and upon entry everything was clean and she was happily waiting for me. She immediately caught on to why I was there and didn't make it nerve wracking or weird, started flirting instantaneously and commented on how well I smelled (good hygiene is a must as far as I've gathered here fellas).

Anyway, she left me to undress, and once she came back in she got right to business. Nice bit of teasing around my nether regions and got me to flip over at the very beginning. She did bring up the tip, but not in an aggressive or imposing way. Just mentioned that she could help my friend and I if we paid enough. Gave her $80 as I'd seen someone else do right off the bat and she was pretty giddy. It was cute to be honest. Service was decent, nothing to write home about, but she let me roam pretty far on her tits, ass, and even between her legs. Everything under the waist was over clothes, but she let me see and touch her breasts pretty liberally (Great tits as most have stated as well). After release, she cleaned me up and told me to flip back onto my stomach to finish up massage. That was also decent, but not exhilarating or life changing by any means. Spent a lot of time on my legs and butt, which I appreciated and enjoyed.

All in all I would give Joy at Tuina a solid 7/10. Not the best time of your life, but far from the worst. I'm glad I took the chance and she was so nice and welcoming I'd be lying if I said I wasn't planning on going again. Her smile is contagious and she kept using terms of endearment on me and made me feel welcome. Probably all part of the act to get paid, but if that's the case I'm fine with her making good money from it. Don't skip out on her lads and give Joy a shot!

Anybody have recommendations for Asian MT's like Joy or younger that I should give a shot in the area? Let me know! I've read a lot of posts on here, but most MT's don't sound my speed yet as I'm mostly attracted to Asian women. Younger would be better, but hard to come by as I understand it. Would be intrigued to find AMP offering CBJ or BBBJ. Nothing more yet though, still new and don't want to get too far down the rabbit hole so soon.

TL; DR: $65 door fee / $80 tip was total damage. No indication of FS of any kind. Decent HJ. Decent Massage. Great bubbly personality. 7 out of 10.

Ekko.[/QUOTE]

FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.

[QUOTE=LlMoe24;6090545]While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;6102412]This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.[/QUOTE]Props to Benz1 and HangLow. Their warnings were spot-on correct.

[QUOTE=RallyToo;6103808]FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.[/QUOTE]If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!

[QUOTE=RallyToo;6103808]FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.[/QUOTE]The website could stay up as long as the hosting company is paid. They might have been paid months in advance, for a better price.

You coud go get a massage and report back, if you think it's open.

At this point it would be like taking one for the team!

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6104047]until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned![/QUOTE]Sadly, this is so true.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6104047]If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned![/QUOTE]These women are smart. I have a hard time believing their database contains anything more than names, contact info, and dates of services, none of which are damning evidence. If they included proclivities and specifics as to specific services rendered, that would be incriminating evidence against themselves, and I don't think they're that stupid.

Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6104047]If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]100%.

Thanks for speaking truth.

[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Dude this kind of attitude is what lands you in jail. You can do all the speculating that you want nobody knows exactly what's going on right now. But if these ladies are being charged or any chance of it believe me they're going to spill any information they have to try to lighten their sentence. I can't believe how much some of you guys want to protect these women who don't give a crap about you, you're just a way to make money. We should all learn something from this, protect yourself and your family is number one. I've always felt if someone wants a deposit or my detailed information and doesn't provide theirs I don't waste my time. I don't care how good looking there. I don't think with my little head.

[QUOTE=ChastD1959;6104638]These women are smart. I have a hard time believing their database contains anything more than names, contact info, and dates of services, none of which are damning evidence. If they included proclivities and specifics as to specific services rendered, that would be incriminating evidence against themselves, and I don't think they're that stupid.[/QUOTE]Seems to me that the more information they save, the more they have to offer to the police in exchange for a deal.

Went to Asian ivy after my provider overslept. I'd go back for the massage alone. It was Thai. Hard and therapeutic.

OK the masseuse was nat in her 20's. She knew her business. Her shorts and top were so tight that there was no chance for UTC roaming.

She was a little fast after the flip but took direction and slowed down. I only did a half hour 45 . Service was decent but not exceptional. 60 tip.

I'll go back for a longer session. Pretty much like most of the AMPs I have been to, clean sheets and new girls often.

Hey bro BJay.

Can yall give more then 2 cents? How about you go there and park right in front of door. Park so camera can record your license plate. Then walk in with cash in yall hand. Leave after hour visit with untuck shirt. Have radio playing loud in car. Maybe squeal tires when ya leave parking lot. Do all that an see if this just a big nothing. Hanglow have great respect for yall if ya do that. Hanglow maybe even come, bail yall out of jail. Is hanglow jail bound? Hell no. I am the walrus.

[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]

Hey bros.

Maybe why'all can help yall favorite provider now. School done started and maybe yall fave can use some extra cash. Specially if she nervous about cops and videos. Maybe this time to send a bejamin.

When I am in a pinch and need a good rubdown & some Oriental pampering and teasing, I visit HH in Wyoming. I have enjoyed Mona (including covered BJ & FS! But recently drew a new (to me anyway) mature Oriental gal (40's). She gave a similar rubdown and paid attention to my tight neck & shoulders and lower back, but on the flip she went right to work & the next thing I new she was delivering an amazing BBBJ! And, she swallowed the whole load! I was surprised & impressed! I plan to go again soon and hope to ask for her. I've never had a bad experience there. Not everyone's cup of tea (no pun intended), but it's my default when I want immediate quality service with fun ladies that spoil the dickens out of you (I mean, help put your underwear & shoes on!) Door fee ($45) plus $ tip. My experience has been the higher the tip, the more service you receive. But reasonable.

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[QUOTE=ClassyGentGr;6106292]When I am in a pinch and need a good rubdown & some Oriental pampering and teasing, I visit HH in Wyoming. I have enjoyed Mona (including covered BJ & FS! But recently drew a new (to me anyway) mature Oriental gal (40's). She gave a similar rubdown and paid attention to my tight neck & shoulders and lower back, but on the flip she went right to work & the next thing I new she was delivering an amazing BBBJ! And, she swallowed the whole load! I was surprised & impressed! I plan to go again soon and hope to ask for her. I've never had a bad experience there. Not everyone's cup of tea (no pun intended), but it's my default when I want immediate quality service with fun ladies that spoil the dickens out of you (I mean, help put your underwear & shoes on!) Door fee ($45) plus $ tip. My experience has been the higher the tip, the more service you receive. But reasonable.[/QUOTE]Did you get a name for the new 40's yo oriental masseuse who gave you the BBBJ and CIM? Love that option and enjoy a nice experience with a hot 40 yo Asian babe. Please provide some additional details. OK to PM me. Thanks.

With all the back and forth concerns about monger privacy and provider security I've been of the mind that cameras are everywhere. And they are. I'm not so certain that my privacy is compromised by cameras outside the buildings that are in place in most business today. They are also in place at many residences. And they certainly are at All hotels.

So while I respect viewpoints of concern about cameras, I have to ask: how do you expect to avoid cameras today? I do not think it is possible. But I also believe cameras are not as threatening as some would have us believe.

And I think it's good to note that Bbu is certainly not alone in its use of an outside camera. In fact, some of you might be surprised to know that Serenity has a camera INSIDE its lobby. I saw it when I was there to see Milan. It's mounted on the ceiling in the northwest corner of the lobby. I did not see any other cameras inside the parlor. I share this, not to alarm anyone about Serenity, but rather to make the case that concerns for cameras should not be centered on only one massage parlor. They are likely at all of them. There have been suggestions offered here over the years about ways to protect one's privacy that are always good strategies. I know in other cities with more aggressive LE efforts, some posters have recommended parking two or three blocks away and around the corner to avoid peering eyes from across the street. Others have suggested to wear a hat and coat when leaving the parlor and walk into a nearby business. Stay there for a few minutes and when you leave, take off the coat and hat and carry them to your car parked further away.

Likely these suggestions are overkill and come from watching too many Law and Order episodes. But if they make someone feel more comfortable to imbibe in a delightful massage episode, then they are of use.

Just my opinion.

G2.

[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Whether there's an investigation or not if there's cameras and info. Being captured your risk is there. If that's acceptable to you that's your business. Its not acceptable to me. We all take some risk in this hobby but the wise have limits to what amount of risk they will take for a release. I wish you all luck. I know I'm not going anywhere I know my plate will be recorded and other info recorded. Why would I? BBU doesn't have a monopoly and female bodies and HJs.

[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking. It's all rumor and hearsay.

Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

[/QUOTE]I don't think hate is the right word.

I have expressed my opinion about mongers saying BBU is the gold standard for our community. Basic negotiation skills will have many mongers thinking they can do better than 180 for a basic rundown and hand job.
I'm Happy you guys found your happy play place.
I was kinda wondering where all those guys are now. Curiosity is killing some of us. The frequent flyers aren't telling their stories lately and we have heard rumors. Let's get the frequent flyers to clear the air. What say you Gene2?

[QUOTE=Benz1;6106829]I don't think hate is the right word.

I have expressed my opinion on what Gene2 said was a gold standard for our community. Basic negotiation skills will have many mongers thinking they can do better than 180 for a basic rundown and hand job.
I'm Happy you guys found your happy play place.
I was kinda wondering where all those guys are now. Curiosity is killing everyone who doesn't go there. The frequent flyers aren't telling their stories lately and we have heard rumors. Let's get the frequent flyers to clear the air. What say you Gene2?[/QUOTE]Good afternoon professor. I'm usually summoned by other posters here who, unlike you, don't themselves ever post reviews or warnings. But they love drama and love to question all of those of us who do actually contribute to the forum, including you and me. So it's good to be summoned by someone willing to share with the community here.

Perhaps my work schedule this summer has been a good thing. I've been working out of state for up to three weeks at a time. So I haven't been around since the proverbial $hit hit the fan. Couple that with my branching out for a couple visits to your favorite haunt, Serenity, as well as visiting the massage UTR, I haven't been to BodyworkByUs in some time. I do see that this allegedly started with a careless monger getting discovered by his wife. And that perhaps led to a police drive by and pull over of an unfortunate dude. Hopefully dude was cool and didn't get too flustered (if it actually happened). That probably ended the factual aspect of this saga. From there it's grown into full blown urban legend. Now a dude claims he was followed while making four right turns and he saw someone writing something down on a notepad. What? Is this the 1970's? Is this Colombo? Who writes things down while driving? Dude doesn't even know which day he saw the provider. Or week. Sounds like he just wanted to be in on the story. Sort of like everyone who claims they saw a UFO in their trailer park wanting to get interviewed on TV.

So. When I return to Michigan will I go back to Bbu? Yes I will. Will I park in their lot? No. I will park further away, just like I did when I visited Serenity. Will I smile into the camera? Yes just like I did when I visited Serenity and found Hayley's camera inside her lobby. Will I stop in at a neighboring business after my appointment? Yes I will. Just like I stopped in at Sherwin Williams when I visited Serenity. Will I bring in Jameson and ginger ale if I see Saje (or vodka for Brit or fruity wine for Cecilia)? Yes I will. Just like I brought black cherry seltzer for Milan when I visited Serenity.

Will I pay $180 for a "basic rubdown and HJ"? No because the service at Bbu is a lot better and specialized than that, as is frequently reported by those who actually have experienced a session there. Will I be careful? Absolutely yes.

While I don't always share your viewpoint, I do respect it. And I think this saga illustrates the need for all here to share data. But accurate data. Perhaps others can weigh in as well. We need more posting and reviews.

G2.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6106897]

While I don't always share your viewpoint, I do respect it. And I think this saga illustrates the need for all here to share data. But accurate data. Perhaps others can weigh in as well. We need more posting and reviews.

G2.[/QUOTE]Thank you Gene2.

I wasn't summoning you to go visit, hoping for an update only if you had visited. I personally don't need to know. I'm concerned for our community.
Broadway Jay is right, LE isn't worried about a few guys getting a rub and HJ. When the Wayland house vehicles got pulled over drug free vehicles didn't get in trouble. The owner and his main lady were the only ones in trouble.( To my knowledge) How would I know? I followed it closely, since the owner told me to fuck off when I warned him.

No need to rush in, I agree with Broadway

I'm sure there are others who have real information not speculation who can fill us in on why the BBU crew is not giving us information.

I'm not saying there is an investigation, it's very coincidental the rumor and lack of postings are happening at the same time.

Gene, others who have been there need to give us an update.

I moved out of that trailer park after the UFO sighting! No E. T. going to do experimental surgery on me!

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;6107173]I moved out of that trailer park after the UFO sighting! No E. T. going to do experimental surgery on me![/QUOTE]Good lord! What a great response. Simple yet hilarious. Well done NJ.

[QUOTE=LlMoe24;6090545]While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.[/QUOTE]Seems there has been some effort to discredit the guys who have reported an investigation, maybe obfuscating things a bit to make it sound like it was sour grapes posting by one guy. But LMoe is one of the guys who has reported it, and he was a frequent customer and enthusiastic poster about the girls at BBU so doesn't seem like he would have ulterior motives. And he states Both customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives. Sounds like he has more than a passing knowledge that this has been taking place, or is he just pissed about something that happened at BBU?

All I can say, it I've been informed that Brit was indeed pulled over, and wasn't as calm and cool as expected. Not saying info was given, but why take any chances with being pulled over, or looked into for any reason. Personally, I feel like most of this drama is part of the game for these women. Brits team seems to be butthurt with Eris for leaving, and so, they've been messing about, and karma is just giving a little lesson in mind your business. I've neem to the location once, and it just was too obvious and not a place I'll go to again due to exposure, and internal drama.

[QUOTE=GRBikeMike;6098498]I got to meet Milan recently, and wow, the real deal. A true beauty. Good massage technique, nice conversation. Paid $80 for the hour and tipped $100. Definitely will repeat.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much!! Look forward to seeing you soon!!

Milan.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6083493]So. After a long absence from Serenity I decided to try it out again. My main reasons for staying away so long have been 1) a preference for an upfront pricing that I pay at the start for an agreed upon service. 2) some prior visits to Serenity had been less of the fantasy many of us prefer. A pretty woman who looks and smells fresh and attractive. While I'm not expecting Vogue magazine cover girl, it has been disappointing to me to see a woman at Serenity who hasn't spent sufficient time having her hair and nails and makeup (not all women need makeup, especially those with olive or mocha toned skin) ready to go. 3) my favorite places have engaging women who enjoy the art of conversation, something lacking at Serenity.

I say all this not to engage in another battle of which MP is best, simply to state what moves Gene. After reading review after review after review about Milan (all positive) I decided to see if the reviews were accurate. So I set an appointment and brought a lunch sandwich she had requested when I confirmed the appointment. Just as I arrived some old dude walked in. I waited the customary and respectful three minutes before I entered so as to allow him to be placed in a room and not have the awkward monger on monger gaze across the lobby. Mission accomplished. It worked. He was nowhere to be seen. I paid the door fee and washed up in the clean and sanitary bathroom. I had just showered before driving there but always take the opportunity to freshen up.

When Milan came in the room I was immediately smitten. Blonde. Blue eyed. Slender. Shapely. Perfect clothing and makeup that made me think I was in the presence of a special woman. The massage itself was stellar. Incredible engaging and intelligent conversation skills. Very good massage technique with intermittent brushing and light finger tickle touch to remind me I wasn't simply there for the massage! She had removed her attractive attire to reveal an even more attractive body. Think of a taller and more amply bosomed version of Julianne Hough. The flip was great and she continued the attentive touching and teasing that had me at full attention. While her menu is less open than my prior encounters at Serenity, it really didn't matter. The naughty smile, the full on staring into my eyes, the bringing me close only to let me relax and repeat this process over and over more than compensated for the smaller menu. It reminds me of when I go to a specialty steak house. .[/QUOTE]Gene2.

This was so sweet! I really appreciate this very much! You really are too kind. I enjoy what I do!. I hope you have a safe trip and PM me when you get back! Really enjoyed everything about our session! Hope to see you soon!

Milan <3.

[QUOTE=Benz1;6107059]Thank you Gene2.

Broadway Jay is right, LE isn't worried about a few guys getting a rub and HJ.

Gene, others who have been there need to give us an update.[/QUOTE]As I read the posts here I do see there have been reports from actual Bbu clients who actually leave reviews.

Sparty1234, daddyJoel, Boriken and others have posted since the $hit storm.

And of course we do have posts from those who never have left a review for Bbu. So those obfuscators have added a new word to our vocabulary but nothing to our monger knowledge base. We really need those who have been there in the past month and actually leave reviews to answer the call. And tell us how it was. From my vantage point (albeit distant) it looks like whatever episode happened was a one off. And things appear to be normal at this point. Of course all of us do well to be cautious and discreet.

Benz I also was hoping for your thoughts on camera (s) at Serenity. I don't think we should be surprised by such a discovery. But do you know how often the images are purged? And are there more than just the one mounted on the lobby ceiling? Asking for a friend. Me.

G2.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6108508]

Benz I also was hoping for your thoughts on camera (s) at Serenity. I don't think we should be surprised by such a discovery. But do you know how often the images are purged? And are there more than just the one mounted on the lobby ceiling? Asking for a friend. Me.

G2.[/QUOTE]I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.

Where the fuck are those guys?

Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.

I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.

Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.

Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?

[QUOTE=Benz1;6108743]I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.

Where the fuck are those guys?

Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.

I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.

Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.

Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?[/QUOTE]LOL this is how Rome collapsed.

I have been here plenty of times and am very familiar with all of their locations past and present. The only time I have had any issues with any type of police "investigation" was within the past two weeks. Two weeks ago when I went I posted up early and ate lunch and noticed above normal police patrol in and around the area. Still had no issues during the massage but after I was followed for about 5 min by a UC car. I set another appt up the following week and they text the night before to confirm. That was out of the ordinary and I thought because of all the talk of investigation they were getting more than normal cancellations. The following day the provider reached out and told me she had to cancel. She said the shop was getting bad attention and they had cops in a few times in the last couple of days asking questions. I haven't been back yet but will once it settles down.

I've visited with two gals in the last couple weeks. No LEO, nothing weird, just typical fantastic visits.

[QUOTE=Razzel123;6109263]I have been here plenty of times and am very familiar with all of their locations past and present. The only time I have had any issues with any type of police "investigation" was within the past two weeks. Two weeks ago when I went I posted up early and ate lunch and noticed above normal police patrol in and around the area. Still had no issues during the massage but after I was followed for about 5 min by a UC car. I set another appt up the following week and they text the night before to confirm. That was out of the ordinary and I thought because of all the talk of investigation they were getting more than normal cancellations. The following day the provider reached out and told me she had to cancel. She said the shop was getting bad attention and they had cops in a few times in the last couple of days asking questions. I haven't been back yet but will once it settles down.[/QUOTE]A hat tippo to Razzel for putting Bros before Hoes!

The rest of them must be cowering behind the boss ladies skirt.

Razzel gets the Monger of the Month Award!

[QUOTE=Benz1;6108743]Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.[/QUOTE]Thanks Benz. I do have to say it is a bit of a concern to hear that some sneaking in of clients has happened at Serenity. I thought Hayley ran a tight ship. Having dudes sneaking in the back door while I'm in a session would worry me. Is this a regular occurrence there? Having cameras to record everyone entering the place also does make the question of how long those recordings are retained a valid one. I would hope you would ask Hayley so we all can know how long our images are on her hard drive. Thanks.

G2.

Posted many a times but I have not been there in months so I have no information or any first hand experience.

Does this mean I am hiding, nope, just don't know anything more.

Hopefully some others can answer the questions you all seek.
[QUOTE=Benz1;6108743]I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.

Where the fuck are those guys?

Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.

I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.

Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.

Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=ClarkEtt;5140086]I think everyone else is spot on with the details. Also not to be that guy but I do find it interesting that every girl you mentioned works out of one place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tommey;6104823]100%.

Thanks for speaking truth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;6109742]Posted many a times but I have not been there in months so I have no information or any first hand experience.

Does this mean I am hiding, nope, just don't know anything more.

Hopefully some others can answer the questions you all seek.
.[/QUOTE]I wasn't trying to be rude to you, they know who they are. Pussy whipped wimps.

After some reading I agree totally with HangLow3.

Tommy is BossLady.

What we need is mongers with integrity putting Bros before Hoes.

When questions were asked about my ATF Liliana, I didn't hesitate to tell the truth about the person she had become. It severed ties with her and it didn't matter to me because I put our team first.

There must be some real wimps on this board or were most of those posters plants to encourage members to visit Boss Lady. It appears she has already started more than one profile, why not ten?

Posting to protect the integrity of the BBU loyalists! Am following the drama police posts. Not sure what to make of it all but certainly caution appears to be in the wind.

Saw Raven for the first time this week. She is beautiful and had a great initial appointment. Got comfortable while I was undressing which I prefer to I can get a good look at the entire package. She is tall, slender and blonde. Amazing body with long legs, tight ass and nice natural tits. Good massage with lots of teasing. Allows plenty of roaming and likes to chat during the session. Has a very clean waxed (sugar-waxed) kitty. Great job on the flip with continued teasing, edging and explosive finish. She knows what she is doing. If you have not seen her, I would schedule an appointment soon. She is great. $1. 8 for one hour massage + $ tip. Also, be sure and ask for the nude full body slide. It is a dream come true. If you have not seen Reyna, you are indeed missing a real treat. Be sure and be kind to these girls. They are very nice and will treat you well if you treat them professionally.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/raven-duos-and-singles-availab/963882391323[/URL]

Reyna and Raven have become my two favorite BBU flavors. Both give very sensuous massages. Reyna is a little curvier and has a nice round ass, but Raven is also very hot. Will see them both again. Maybe a duo if my budget can afford such! May also be more that this old cock can handle but what a way to go. LOL! Brit is always great with a very tight, athletic body. All the girls are still posting on STG and the website is up an running.

I have not had any police issues to date. I do my due diligence at each visit. Drive around the block and park off site. Take a few minutes to assess the area and look for anything suspicious. I usually stop in a nearby store or restaurant and make a small purchase before walking to the BBU door. I know they have cameras on but who doesn't? I have talked to the girls about this issue, and they don't seem to be too worried. They have all apparently completed some type of massage or aesthetic certification in an attempt to be more legit. Really don't think the police are going to work about mongers getting a massage with or without a HJ actually. But who really knows. If you get stopped just plead ignorance and don't say anything.

Appreciate the concern voiced from other mongers and would like to hear from some mongers who visit BBU, read the forum but don't post (I know there are many of you). Please add your comments and keep reading to keep all of us safe.

Happy hunting. Be safe.