Candy's business is probably slow because
[QUOTE=GripNSip;4611020]So I hopped on board the candy train to see what the fuss was about. And I have to say, Thai candy lives up to her reputation. Set up was surprisingly simple and she saw me right away. Parking was simple but the complex can be a bit of a maze. But I found her eventually and the woman from the pics on the ad answered the door and let me in. Showered up and got ready for the hour massage.
Before she begins Candy tells me she has to feel up my body to determine the the best massage to give me which was interesting but added to her legitimacy as a licensed CMT. She asked if I wanted her to walk on my back and crack it. I said sure. I've had a ton of ladies walk on my back but candy wasn't fucking around she came in like a god damn steamroller and I felt my spine snap crackle and pop like a bowl of cereal. From that point I knew this chick knows how to give a good massage.
She applied actual pressure to the joints and definitely help rub out my knots. The next hour was pretty damn good. It's on par with KK and the greats. I highly recommend you give candy a try while she's in town she's only here for 10 more days.
She was pleasure to talk to as well. Tells me she runs a real Thai massage place in LA but comes here for the extracurricular to make extra money. But as other mongers have reported. She's absolutely no FS and offers only HE. But she does get topless which is great because those tits are gorgeous. On the flip I get to play with those teddies and she oils up junior whose full mast at this point. After she jack hammers away, I explode and she goes "you did not get good sleep last night?
She was right I barely slept the night before. I said yeah but how can you tell.
She said without skipping a beat, "your sperm. I'm sperm doctor".
I burst out laughing. Candy is fun, and she knows her shit.
When I was done I showered and cleaned up, gave her $. 6 total. It was a totally worthwhile experience. She said she's looking for more customers and that business is slow which shocked me because I figured with all the chatter she'd be swamped. Guys she's one of the good ones. Give a her a shot and treat her well.[/QUOTE]Most FBSM mongers care more about the extras than the massage, IMHO. That doesn't mean they don't enjoy the massage part of the session but, given a choice between a great massage with limited menu options or a mediocre massage with a more expansive menu, they'll more often choose the latter. And even if they try once or twice for the massage they'll often stop visiting once it's clear they won't get anything beyond a topless HJ. For local providers, like KK and Tara, they've had years to build up a regular client base, but that's not the case for visitors like Candy.
It's kind of a shame but it is what it is.
Naomi / Miranda / Veenaa WASTE OF TIME
I scheduled with this NURU chick goes by multiple names Naomi / Miranda / Veenaa digits end in 9399. I got screened the night before appointment. The very next day we set a time of 4 pm. Mind you I'm coming from another area and do not live close to NOVA so I head out at maybe 3 to get there on time. I finally arrive at the building complex only to see I have a text that came in at 3:20 asking me to reschedule for 5 pm.
I'm a little annoyed and tell her I can't wait until 5 pm. She apologizes for the inconvenience and says she will make up the time to me if I can wait. I should've went with my gut and just left.
I wait since I'm already out here and it's a hike back to my side of town. I sit outside since the weather is really nice. Finally get a text at 4:50 saying she's ready and instructs me to walk to her building. She opens the door and waves me over. I walk to the door which is now closed and knock. No answer.
She texts back and says her "roommate" hasn't left yet sorry again so I'm standing there texting and asking do I need to wait again or what?
Then she says her "friend" who dropped her off is still there and now she can't do the appointment so I'm livid now and say "I just waited an hour? No response.
Fuck this chick she's up selling 350 for an hour and FS. Can get way better service with elite or other providers in the area. YMMV is one thing but this was suspect and a waste of time.
AVOID.
Scheduling with Thai providers
[QUOTE=WalterKovacs;4612455]I scheduled with this NURU chick goes by multiple names Naomi / Miranda / Veenaa digits end in 9399. I got screened the night before appointment. The very next day we set a time of 4 pm. Mind you I'm coming from another area and do not live close to NOVA so I head out at maybe 3 to get there on time. I finally arrive at the building complex only to see I have a text that came in at 3:20 asking me to reschedule for 5 pm.
I'm a little annoyed and tell her I can't wait until 5 pm. She apologizes for the inconvenience and says she will make up the time to me if I can wait. I should've went with my gut and just left.
I wait since I'm already out here and it's a hike back to my side of town. I sit outside since the weather is really nice. Finally get a text at 4:50 saying she's ready and instructs me to walk to her building. She opens the door and waves me over. I walk to the door which is now closed and knock. No answer.
She texts back and says her "roommate" hasn't left yet sorry again so I'm standing there texting and asking do I need to wait again or what?.[/QUOTE]While there are always exceptions, I've generally found Thai providers to have much looser standards when it comes scheduling and their sense of time, priorities, etc. I just chalk it up to (mostly) cultural differences and the way I deal with it in a practical sense is to almost never schedule more than a few hours in advance. Some of the well-known exceptions are those Thai women with a good customer service sense, like KK and Tara, but for many others it's not unusual that something "just comes up" that forces a scheduling change.
It used to majorly p*ss me off until I just accepted it as part of their nature that isn't likely to change. It's kind of like getting p*issed off at a cat for doing the kinds of things cats do. The reason I mention cats rather than dogs is because you can often train dogs to change but cats you just have to accept as they are.
So, as I mentioned above, I only schedule same-day and usually not very far in advance. I might make initial contact the day before to check general availability but nothing more than that. Then by the time I contact her the next day she's usually expecting my text and has a better idea of her schedule and availability. I also won't drive a long way to see any provider, Thai or other, unless I have a Plan B (and maybe C) figured out.
All that being said, none of this excuses flakiness and lack of consideration. Some Thai providers have zero customer service sense and those should definitely be avoided. About your experience with Veena, if she had a friend or relative who had dropped her off and hadn't left yet, one likely explanation is that she felt it would be rude (in the Thai cultural sense) to push them to leave. So for her the path of least resistance was to ask you for changes. Not an excuse, just a possible explanation. FWIW, I haven't personally seen Veenaa as it's my impression that she's more of a GPS type than I like. I'm happy to pay 120 hr + 100-120 for a full upgrade but anything beyond that is overpriced, IMHO.
Massage vs extras. A false choice?
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4611895]Most FBSM mongers care more about the extras than the massage, IMHO. That doesn't mean they don't enjoy the massage part of the session but, given a choice between a great massage with limited menu options or a mediocre massage with a more expansive menu, they'll more often choose the latter. And even if they try once or twice for the massage they'll often stop visiting once it's clear they won't get anything beyond a topless HJ. For local providers, like KK and Tara, they've had years to build up a regular client base, but that's not the case for visitors like Candy.
It's kind of a shame but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]I visited Candy for the massage and Nuru. I felt the nuru with oil (not nuru seaweed gel) was overpriced, but the overall experience was quite good. If you Skip the nuru, her price point is reasonable. There are providers who give both a good massage and FS, but they are (for me) very expensive. Candy gives a good service including great massage, good looks, happy ending.
Consider this; is choosing a good massage provider who does not really want to do FS vs a poor massage with FS a false choice? If you want a good massage, you can get one from a provider that is discussed here that gives good massages and a happy ending (Candy Tara KK). If you want FS, you can go to a provider that concentrates on FS. Part of this is value. A great massage and HJ can be had for $120-150. A hour FS with two pops is in the range of 160-200. So for 280 -300 you can get two hours; an hour very good massage / HJ and an hour FS-two pops. The good massage and FS providers are 300 and up for ONE hour and likely one pop! Is it not better to separate the service?
I like the Tara service. However, I am also happy that Candy has graced our market with those truly wonderful hands and headlights.
We have a lot of good providers. As always. Be nice to the ladies.
For those who like to keep it under 2
Here is a good option.
In fact if you choose 30 minutes for 40, you can keep it under 1.5.
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Be safe and treat them all well.
No worries. I was really just making a general point.
[QUOTE=WalterKovacs;4613248]Jm I respect your input and feedback a lot of the time but I think you're missing the fact that she literally stuck her head out the door, WAVED me to come to the door from down the hall and then when I got to the door wouldn't open and only replied during text. This is after ALREADY screening me with a PHOTO I'd and confirming the time + making me wait an hour.[/QUOTE]And using your post as a launch pad to do so. What you describe happening with Veena is certainly a head-scratcher but my general point is that anyone dealing with Thai women should prepare themselves for a sh*tload of head-scratching moments. I recall my first time trying to visit Alexa and, after scheduling the day before and confirming the morning of, she cancelled while I was parked in front of her building. I can't deny that I was livid but things got better as I moved on to my Plan B (Sophie) and a good time was had by all. A short time afterwards I was able to do a same-day appt with Alexa and she became one of my faves.
As I mentioned, I haven't seen Veenaa and I'm unlikely to do so given her reported GPS pricing tendencies. But I do wonder what was going on when you tried to see her as it certainly is unusual for her to go though all the motions of scheduling, screening, etc. , only to cancel at the last minute. And cancelling after making you wait an hour and waving from the door is truly rubbing salt in the wound. So I absolutely understand where you're coming from but, as an observer (and a big fan of Thai women, in general) it just makes me wonder what kind of WTF circumstances were going on behind that door. After all, it certainly wasn't your garden-variety flakiness-inspired cancellation, right?
Here's an interesting thought: Once you get over your (totally justified) outrage, if you happen to find yourself in that general area, it would be a fascinating exercise to send her a text and see what develops. One possible outcome is that, once you remind her of how shabbily you were treated, you might get a heavily discounted or highly upgraded session. That might not appeal to you in the least, which is understandable. Just throwing it out there for consideration but the circumstances (and price) would have to be absolutely perfect.
Completely legit massage place
[QUOTE=Slate111;4613532]I went to FF Massage in Chantilly to TOFTT. It was the standard price buck a min for 60 or 90. There is no mention of anything but a legit massage and wall don't go all the way to the ceiling. I could hear other people in the room next to me. I did notice lot of customers and it made me think if there is something special if you go often but that was the last time for me.[/QUOTE]Been there many times and the reason they stay busy is because they deliver a quality legit massage at a reasonable price. Anyone visiting multiple times with hopes of scoring extras is bound to be disappointed. IMHO, the best strategy for TOFTT action is to focus on those AMPs that advertise heavily on adult-oriented sites like Bedpage. Most legit spas advertise elsewhere.
Are you sure the pics aren't as fake as the tits?
[QUOTE=JasonStood;4613575]Guys anyone tried this girl in Leesburg?
Tits look great. DDDDD.
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/professional-massage-by-exotic-ina/9559342.html[/URL][/QUOTE]IIRC, I've seen those (or very similar) pics in other ads. You might want to do an image search to check whether you're lusting after pics stolen from some internet model.
IMHO, the false choice is because of the search for the elusive Unicorn.
[QUOTE=OldBoomer;4613632]I visited Candy for the massage and Nuru. I felt the nuru with oil (not nuru seaweed gel) was overpriced, but the overall experience was quite good. If you Skip the nuru, her price point is reasonable. There are providers who give both a good massage and FS, but they are (for me) very expensive. Candy gives a good service including great massage, good looks, happy ending.
Consider this; is choosing a good massage provider who does not really want to do FS vs a poor massage with FS a false choice? If you want a good massage, you can get one from a provider that is discussed here that gives good massages and a happy ending (Candy Tara KK). If you want FS, you can go to a provider that concentrates on FS. Part of this is value. A great massage and HJ can be had for $120-150. A hour FS with two pops is in the range of 160-200. So for 280 -300 you can get two hours; an hour very good massage / HJ and an hour FS-two pops. The good massage and FS providers are 300 and up for ONE hour and likely one pop! Is it not better to separate the service?
I like the Tara service. However, I am also happy that Candy has graced our market with those truly wonderful hands and headlights.
We have a lot of good providers. As always. Be nice to the ladies.[/QUOTE]I think it's safe to say that mongers often pride themselves on pushing the envelope and, at least in their own minds, getting special services, special pricing, status, etc. That's why, IMHO, there's a never-ending search for that elusive Unicorn experience. How that can manifest is that visits to a legit massage provider come with a hope for extras, a visit to an FBSM provider comes with hopes for a FS GFE session, and so forth. Sometimes those things happen, and we read posts about them in the forum, and that tends to feed the pursuit even more.
I've long been an advocate of taking things as they come and, if pleasant surprises happen, enjoying that moment for what it is. What that means for me is that, if I want a good massage, I go to a legit spa. If I want a nice massage + HJ, I go to a provider who specializes in that service. Same for BBBJ, FS, etc. IME, I'm rarely disappointed because I'm not trying to push anyone out of their comfort zone. I'm also careful to be generous, without overpaying, and drama-free, which often results in my becoming a favored regular client. Everyone needs to figure out what works best for them but I would respectfully suggest that chasing the Unicorn tends to lead to more disappointment, and wasted funds, than the alternative.
Small but can pack a punch
[QUOTE=OldBoomer;4615037]Search the forum for Javier and you will find much more information. There is a great quote from her:
I give a good massage, but I am not a good girl.[/QUOTE]I've seen the Javier gal a couple of times and can vouch she's worth it. She can give you a real nice deep tissue message to point where I said " not too hard". Response pretty quickly and definitely has more on the menu. If me the first time we met she was a little bit conservative but towards the end of our session she teased a little bit. The second time she was more comfortable and we had lots more fun. She's a ATF for me and definitely worth the money.
Sending driver's license pictures?
[QUOTE=SSmith;4613150]I hope I wasn't the one that gave you the boot Walter, yesterday (Saturday 1/11) I texted that number at about 3:30 and was told she was available at 5. After asking my age and race, had to send pic of my license but was told I could cover all the info. On my way there was told it would have to be 6, I said that's not ok but could do 5:30, and we settled on that. BTW she texted me a menu that included 30 minutes FS for $$. Ended up at nice apartments in Reston, and was waved in to meet "Veena". She is a younger Chinese borderline spinner with what my Grandma would call a handsome face, and quite the set of teeth. I'm not trying to be mean but she was very far from attractive to me. Now she did have a bubbly, fun and friendly personality, joined me for a quick shower before an oil massage. She had a good, vigorous technique, and after about 10 minutes got out the Nuru gel. This was my first time and it felt fantastic, I had flipped at that point and her body felt great on mine. From previous reviews I was anticipating a BBBJ, but she put the cover on and wouldn't take it off after a few requests. Her technique included a lot of those aforementioned teeth and I was quickly losing enthusiasm. Seeing that I was able to convince her I wasn't going to finish with the cover so she finally took it off. The teeth were really killing it for me but she was persistant and eventually was able to CIM. She massaged me for another 5 minutes, gave me another shower and I was on my way. I won't repeat because of her looks and the covered BJ preference but it was not bad for the price and nuru.[/QUOTE]I read the post. "After asking my age and race, had to send pic of my license". To an indepemdent? Are you serious? You are a brave soul. I am not sending any identification to anyone who is 100% using a fake name. I think this sets an ugly precedent for other mongers.
Thoughts? Is everyone doing this?
They don't need to know your personal info
[QUOTE=SonChi;4615642]I read the post. "After asking my age and race, had to send pic of my license". To an indepemdent? Are you serious? You are a brave soul. I am not sending any identification to anyone who is 100% using a fake name. I think this sets an ugly precedent for other mongers.
Thoughts? Is everyone doing this?[/QUOTE]Any provider asking for my license, photo, employment information, or any other piece of personal information isn't getting my business, period. And that's whether they're using a fake name, as most providers do, or using a real name. If enough mongers boycott providers who request such info, they'll have to either change their policies or find another line of work.
