The signs on the Warren AMPs should all read "CLOSED BEAT IT!" Doc.
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The signs on the Warren AMPs should all read "CLOSED BEAT IT!" Doc.
Well at least I will never have to see that f& Warren again. The massage parlors were the only good thing there. Every time I went there I also spent money in the stores, gas stations, fast food. Etc. Oh well guess that dump of a town don't need money.
Never seen a place as dumpy as warren! So many run down buildings and pot holes! And I have been to several third world countries .Manila looks like paradise in comparison!
On a good note. There is no shortage of young woman willing to give a massage for money.only the money will no longer go to warren.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Jonnyjonny; 1487731]Well at least I will never have to see that f& Warren again. The massage parlors were the only good thing there. Every time I went there I also spent money in the stores, gas stations, fast food. Etc. Oh well guess that dump of a town don't need money.
Never seen a place as dumpy as warren! So many run down buildings and pot holes! And I have been to several third world countries. Manila looks like paradise in comparison!
On a good note. There is no shortage of young woman willing to give a massage for money. Only the money will no longer go to warren.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Well said, I've done the same many a time. Been thinking about spa 76
As clearly stated by the website. Everything in here is a work of fiction, but yet LE are using it to attack people. The best thing to do right now to continue to write fiction like you've always done. The more fiction, the more ghosts LE can keep on chasing. They should be doing more important things, but since they want to bother people, then let them chase ghosts.
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1487423]Now that these places are all gone, this whole thread should be deleted. There is nothing new to talk about, and all of the old reports on here aren't doing anyone, including the posters, any favors. I suppose the damage is done, but I still think it would be a good idea to just get rid of this thread so we can all forget about it and move on. Just saying.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FishingforCats;1488842]As clearly stated by the website. Everything in here is a work of fiction, but yet LE are using it to attack people. The best thing to do right now to continue to write fiction like you've always done. The more fiction, the more ghosts LE can keep on chasing. They should be doing more important things, but since they want to bother people, then let them chase ghosts.[/QUOTE]Do to the inherent lack of material these days, there isn't much about which to write this fictional material.
The best thing to do right now is to shut up! Reports like the ones on this site are a big reason for the demise of the spas.
[QUOTE=FishingforCats;1488842]As clearly stated by the website. Everything in here is a work of fiction, but yet LE are using it to attack people. The best thing to do right now to continue to write fiction like you've always done. The more fiction, the more ghosts LE can keep on chasing. They should be doing more important things, but since they want to bother people, then let them chase ghosts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1489162]The best thing to do right now is to shut up! Reports like the ones on this site are a big reason for the demise of the spas.[/QUOTE]How do you know this? Did any of the government attention seekers cite internet forums as a source of information? Was Jackson or other forum administrators subpoenaed for records? A lot of other spas in other places were closed before internet review forums where around. Besides, shutting up about them isn't going to bring them back.
[QUOTE=TungMaster; 1489082]LE uses these review sites to target spas for closure. To think otherwise is foolish.
All LE needs to do is set up hidden cameras, then start leaning on customers.
Eventually, someone gives up information and LE comes in with the warrants and raids the spas.
The Asian spa workers and customers are easy marks for LE to intimidate because they don't know their rights, including the right to remain silent until they get legal council.
If you value your favorite spas and providers, then keep quiet about what is going on inside the spa.
All the warning signs were starting back in the summer of 2010, but some guys kept posting graphic spa reviews online.
They kept provoking the religious groups, the mayor, the police, the MVOC and the public.
Those guys don't look so smart today now that all the spas are closed down.[/QUOTE]The reviews had nothing to do with the closures. There were archived reviews back to 2003 and still are. Once the MVOC got involved it was just a matter of time before the state bought the human trafficking allegations. To date 9 spas raided 0 human trafficking charges filed. Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1487423]Now that these places are all gone, this whole thread should be deleted. There is nothing new to talk about, and all of the old reports on here aren't doing anyone, including the posters, any favors. I suppose the damage is done, but I still think it would be a good idea to just get rid of this thread so we can all forget about it and move on. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Not going to happen. Springfield AMPs were closed and one was bulldozed over but the thread is still there. Out of state guys who enjoyed the many talented massage experts are following the whole story till the final end of the owners and operators trials. Right Mr. Joker?
Happy Mongering.
"Did any of the government attention seekers cite internet forums as a source of information?"
Yes, several times. Information from this site and ********. Com was presented in one or more of the MVOC's complaints, like as in page after page of graphic detail, as you can discover with a few second's googling.
"Was Jackson or other forum administrators subpoenaed for records?"
I do not know, but I think not.
"A lot of other spas in other places were closed before internet review forums where around."
Sure; you don't exactly have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what's going on in a massage parlor with a name like "Lucky Dragon" that's open 24 hours in a seedy neighborhood. But these sites, while very useful to hobbyists, were also useful to peple who wanted to close down the spas, too, with the way they made what had previously just been gossip and rumor and innuendo that much more vividly detailed and readily accessible.
"Besides, shutting up about them isn't going to bring them back."
You're right about that. Well, the good news is, since there are always going to be men with more money than patience and chat-up skills, and women with bills to pay who discover having sex isn't the worst way to earn a living, well, there will always be ways to rent vagina by the hour.
I didn't mean the Bible-thumpers. Has the Attorney General, District Attorney or any LE official said the forums where a part of the investigation and prosecution?
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1489162]The best thing to do right now is to shut up! Reports like the ones on this site are a big reason for the demise of the spas.[/QUOTE]This is true. TOS had some problems.
Personally, I think that this thread has value for the links regarding and trials and LE action. Not as much fun as reading fiction, but the court material is good reading. That's just my take.
Could someone seriously please tell me what happened to ada from the fantasy. Will it ever open again?
Could anybody please tell me how to get in contact with her?
[QUOTE=George1971; 1489349]"Did any of the government attention seekers cite internet forums as a source of information?"
"Was Jackson or other forum administrators subpoenaed for records?"
I do not know, but I think not.[/QUOTE]Jackson can't be subpoenaed. He runs this site out of South America. Good luck trying to find him.
Story on WKBNDOTCOM. Happy Mongering.