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[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1878841]Well, I tend to be more on the side "Blackfires" way of thinking and I don't believe that 20-60 is a low tip. I believe that he is in line with his tip rate scale. If you are tipping 140. 00 in the room to the girls on top of the 60 door fee, YOU are paying WAY too much! Just as you say that the girls may talk amongst themselves and label some as "Cheap" (which I don't think a tip of 20-60 would be called cheap) , they also may talk and laugh amongst themselves that they can't believe that someone would pay 200. 00 for a HJ![/QUOTE]I've been in the hobby on and off for the last 30 plus years and I can't believe someone would pay 140 tip unless they knew going in that it was going to be a FS appointment. These girls get half the room fee on an hour appointment plus the 140 tip that gives them $170 for a HJ. That's nuts. You can get a good looking sp that provides great service starting at 160 hr.

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[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1878841]Well, I tend to be more on the side "Blackfires" way of thinking and I don't believe that 20-60 is a low tip. I believe that he is in line with his tip rate scale. If you are tipping 140. 00 in the room to the girls on top of the 60 door fee, YOU are paying WAY too much! Just as you say that the girls may talk amongst themselves and label some as "Cheap" (which I don't think a tip of 20-60 would be called cheap) , they also may talk and laugh amongst themselves that they can't believe that someone would pay 200. 00 for a HJ![/QUOTE]Having spoken with many of the girls quite openly about tips and service, I agree that they consider a 60 tip as just fine for a standard ending. If you hit $ or more for a tip, you are definitely in FS range. If they don't offer extended extras, they'll still take your money of course, but only the most hard-up will move off their comfort zones for a big tip- at least until they are very comfortable with you.

[blue]Guys, it's one of the chicks from the Salon. I made her an advertiser and told her to knock it off.

Sheesh,

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Love The Lips;1878841]Well, I tend to be more on the side "Blackfires" way of thinking and I don't believe that 20-60 is a low tip. I believe that he is in line with his tip rate scale. If you are tipping 140. 00 in the room to the girls on top of the 60 door fee, YOU are paying WAY too much! Just as you say that the girls may talk amongst themselves and label some as "Cheap" (which I don't think a tip of 20-60 would be called cheap) , they also may talk and laugh amongst themselves that they can't believe that someone would pay 200. 00 for a HJ![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Blackfire;1878751]Yeah, good point. I think I'll quit going to Panacea because I don't want to be seen as cheap since I don't tip $140. Sounds like the girls there are expecting those kind of tips.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RepArgent;1878386]I've had many conversations with the girls at Wonder and Panacea and they all thought a 40 to 80 tip was great! The only time I left unhappy was then I had told the girl I would tip 100. Her service was terrible. Most of the great ladies at both establishments have been there for years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1879625][blue]Guys, it's one of the chicks from the Salon. I made her an advertiser and told her to knock it off.

Sheesh,

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]That's funny because I was almost going to write in my post that LmbInc sounds like she might be one of the girls!

I will spank her the next time I go in! No need to thank me I volunteered.

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1879625][blue]Guys, it's one of the chicks from the Salon. I made her an advertiser and told her to knock it off.

Sheesh,

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blackfire; 1876192]Here's a general guideline I follow. Doesn't matter if I pay up front for 1/2 or full hour, I consider that amount for the massage:

Basic HJ finish, no touching the therapist $20.

Basic HJ, therapist shows skin from the waist up and allows touching $30.

HJ, therapist shows skin top and bottom and allows some groping $40.

HJ with "extra" aggressive groping $40-$60 ($60 is at the very top of my scale with just a HJ finish and she has to be a hot number to boot, I consider a total outlay of $120 to be in the same range as FS from an escort so personally if I were to tip more than $60 I'd just as soon be banging an escort).

$60 tip and up for services over and above a HJ, however seldom run into those opportunities in the GR rub 'and tug places.

Hope this helps, would be interested to see if this is in line with others.[/QUOTE]I have quickly relearned that Wonder Massage does extras. This tipping bracket is only good if you are at a massage parlor staffed by asians. If I wanted too, so not saying I did, but if I wanted to, I could get a BBBJCIM or face for $120. 00 on top of the house.

Its all about asking the question men.

[QUOTE=Pedro7819; 1881302]I have quickly relearned that Wonder Massage does extras. This tipping bracket is only good if you are at a massage parlor staffed by asians. If I wanted too, so not saying I did, but if I wanted to, I could get a BBBJCIM or face for $120. 00 on top of the house.

Its all about asking the question men.[/QUOTE]That tipping strategy is good at ALL massage parlors if you're going in just looking for a HJ HE not just at the Asian parlors. If you don't believe me go check out the reviews on NR of the area massage parlors. As far as getting extras you can expect to pay more, his point was he would rather pay 120 plus for a sp than paying that at a mp. His point is well taken considering if you take that 120 you would pay for BBBJ cim plus an hour at 60 paying 180 pr hr. There are several decent looking girls that offer up that along with FS starting at 150 to as much as 180 pr hr and the service is good. It just a matter of what you're looking for and what value you put on the services you're looking for. Different strokes for different folks.

[QUOTE; 1876192]Here's a general guideline I follow. Doesn't matter if I pay up front for 1/2 or full hour, I consider that amount for the massage:

Basic HJ finish, no touching the therapist $20.

Basic HJ, therapist shows skin from the waist up and allows touching $30.

HJ, therapist shows skin top and bottom and allows some groping $40.

HJ with "extra" aggressive groping $40-$60 ($60 is at the very top of my scale with just a HJ finish and she has to be a hot number to boot, I consider a total outlay of $120 to be in the same range as FS from an escort so personally if I were to tip more than $60 I'd just as soon be banging an escort).

$60 tip and up for services over and above a HJ, however seldom run into those opportunities in the GR rub 'and tug places.

Hope this helps, would be interested to see if this is in line with others.[/QUOTE]I use to follow this pattern until I left it a bit for Royal and E / W and I came to my senses later on.

Just for an example, twice that I saw jennifer at royal. I gave her 20 the first time and I got only one shot on goal[HJ] and the second time I saw her, I got two shot on goal for 40[HJ].

I over paid my first time at E / W for 50 for only a HJ and I can't even remember the female / B10eth name and after I went my second time to E / W, I stuck to my regular ways and got HJ for free LOL[I can't reveal the person name in the open to protect the quilty LOL].

So for those of you over paying for HJ, I feel bad for some of you all and am guessing that you guys are not really going for a massage to heal / treat your body, am not against anyone over paying, since it is your / my money and we / I can do what the fuck we / I want to do with is / her money.

The only time I paid about 200 combine with the hourly massage fee was at Rainbow for CBJ, CFS and Massage with either the mama san or the female and since I was new then, I did not know that I was over paying LOL, but I was later glad for mainly EV cave and Nsahub men's' area, ralphie boy school me well there and even in private messages too and I can't thank him and his boys enough LOL. As usual, any other questions will have to be sent to my men Ping hehehe[Just messing with you and you been quiet in PM about them extras, let me know about those BBBJ. CBJ, good massage females when you got time. THANKS]

I had an appointment at noon today with Linn at Oasis or Royal. She didn't say for sure. It didn't matter. She was a no show. I waited 15 minutes after a 45 minute drive from Holland. Needless to say, She just lost me. I pay well and tip well. Total 160. Bye- bye Linn. I hope you're reading this. In a state of pissed-off, I drove to Pacific. Jenn and another big-boobed chunky black girl (I've been with her before) were sittin' around waiting for the phone to ring."Take a walk in?" I went with Jen. 40 up font. I got comfortable. She came in, stripped down. Chunk-oids don't do it for me, but my little guy was more pissed than I was. I was O. K with the half-assed massage, he was just fine with the hot-oil treatment he got and responded. When it was it was all done she wiped his nose with hot towels. Damn. I wish she wasn't so chunky! I asked her if 40 was a good tip. She said "Fine for what you got." I said "You mean there's more?" She said "You didn't ask. Talk to me next time." I asked her about a girl named Anita who used to work there that was one of my A. T. F's. She said she's back. I said oh really. As I was walking out, in comes Anita. I said hello, I thought you quit? She said "I'm working Tuesday thru Sunday. Give me a call. We hugged and kissed. My poor little guy tried to cry. He got pissed instead!

"Anyway Linn, I still have Rhonda with phenominal extras, and Anta's back. I'm not pissed anymore! Goodbye."

[QUOTE=Bloozer; 1881943]I had an appointment at noon today with Linn at Oasis or Royal. She didn't say for sure. It didn't matter. She was a no show. I waited 15 minutes after a 45 minute drive from Holland. Needless to say, She just lost me. I pay well and tip well. Total 160. Bye- bye Linn. I hope you're reading this. In a state of pissed-off, I drove to Pacific. Jenn and another big-boobed chunky black girl (I've been with her before) were sittin' around waiting for the phone to ring."Take a walk in?" I went with Jen. 40 up font. I got comfortable. She came in, stripped down. Chunk-oids don't do it for me, but my little guy was more pissed than I was. I was O. K with the half-assed massage, he was just fine with the hot-oil treatment he got and responded. When it was it was all done she wiped his nose with hot towels. Damn. I wish she wasn't so chunky! I asked her if 40 was a good tip. She said "Fine for what you got." I said "You mean there's more?" She said "You didn't ask. Talk to me next time." I asked her about a girl named Anita who used to work there that was one of my A. T. F's. She said she's back. I said oh really. As I was walking out, in comes Anita. I said hello, I thought you quit? She said "I'm working Tuesday thru Sunday. Give me a call. We hugged and kissed. My poor little guy tried to cry. He got pissed instead!

"Anyway Linn, I still have Rhonda with phenominal extras, and Anta's back. I'm not pissed anymore! Goodbye."[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her in a while. Time for me to go back!

That sucks Bloozer. Which Pacific did you go to and how big we're the chunky black girls boobs? I'm a fan of big black boobs.

Acupressure spa on Paris near 28th is the spot to go to for a FANTASTIC massage with the authentic ending. She asked if I liked my pressure light med or hard. I like it very hard (no pun intended). Been there three times left past two times fully relieved.

Any? S PM me

Stopped in and front desk asked which lady I wanted to massage me. I had a choice of her (average late 20s early 30s blonde Eh looking) , pretty early 20s brunette on the couch, or mystery chick who was somewhere else. Being the dumb nice guy I am said idc give me whoever. Got the blonde who gave a weak BS massage and a weak BS mechanical finish. 50 upfront to house and 50 upfront to masseuse.

This is my first time to a place where I got to pick my masseuse. I will revisit but will actually evaluate my options a little further and decide to stay or not.

[QUOTE=FineByMe72;1882179]That sucks Bloozer. Which Pacific did you go to and how big we're the chunky black girls boobs? I'm a fan of big black boobs.[/QUOTE]The one on 44th.

[QUOTE=FineByMe72;1882179]That sucks Bloozer. Which Pacific did you go to and how big we're the chunky black girls boobs? I'm a fan of big black boobs.[/QUOTE]Super Big Plus!

[QUOTE=BenjaminSkully; 1882199]Acupressure spa on Paris near 28th is the spot to go to for a FANTASTIC massage with the authentic ending. She asked if I liked my pressure light med or hard. I like it very hard (no pun intended). Been there three times left past two times fully relieved.

Any? S PM me[/QUOTE]I've also been there very good massage and standard HEing.

[QUOTE=BenjaminSkully; 1882199]Acupressure spa on Paris near 28th is the spot to go to for a FANTASTIC massage with the authentic ending. She asked if I liked my pressure light med or hard. I like it very hard (no pun intended). Been there three times left past two times fully relieved.

Any? S PM me[/QUOTE]Is that by chance London? I saw her once at her apartment near Leonard and Fuller but she said she was going to start working in a spa off East Paris. Does she offer any extras?

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[QUOTE=RepArgent;1882363]Is that by chance London? I saw her once at her apartment near Leonard and Fuller but she said she was going to start working in a spa off East Paris. Does she offer any extras?[/QUOTE]No, that's not London. Accupressure is an Asian massage that recently opened in a strip mall on East Paris by 28th. HE can be available there.

London is an "independent" that can work out of a nail place further down on East Paris. She and a few other girls that advertise on Craigslist will meet you at the nail place, they have a massage room that I assume the ladies rent when they get a client. Looks good on their ads when they can put that they have a place on East Paris. London will let you see the goods and HJ is available, she will also do a prostate massage and other fetishes that she might do to you, if you desire, but I'm not sure if you can get other services from her like BJ or more (I didn't get the impression it was available).

Went to wonder to see Camille found out she doesn't work there anymore where my camille then found out she now work at a new place up the road call Serenity Massage Studio I will diffinently be seeing her there glad to know she's doing good for herself.

[QUOTE=Bloozer; 1881943]I had an appointment at noon today with Linn at Oasis or Royal. She didn't say for sure. It didn't matter. She was a no show. I waited 15 minutes after a 45 minute drive from Holland. Needless to say, She just lost me. I pay well and tip well. Total 160. Bye- bye Linn. I hope you're reading this. In a state of pissed-off, I drove to Pacific. Jenn and another big-boobed chunky black girl (I've been with her before) were sittin' around waiting for the phone to ring."Take a walk in?" I went with Jen. 40 up font. I got comfortable. She came in, stripped down. Chunk-oids don't do it for me, but my little guy was more pissed than I was. I was O. K with the half-assed massage, he was just fine with the hot-oil treatment he got and responded. When it was it was all done she wiped his nose with hot towels. Damn. I wish she wasn't so chunky! I asked her if 40 was a good tip. She said "Fine for what you got." I said "You mean there's more?" She said "You didn't ask. Talk to me next time." I asked her about a girl named Anita who used to work there that was one of my A. T. F's. She said she's back. I said oh really. As I was walking out, in comes Anita. I said hello, I thought you quit? She said "I'm working Tuesday thru Sunday. Give me a call. We hugged and kissed. My poor little guy tried to cry. He got pissed instead!

"Anyway Linn, I still have Rhonda with phenominal extras, and Anta's back. I'm not pissed anymore! Goodbye."[/QUOTE]Are Lin & Lea the same person? Anyway, I did setup an appointment with Lea at Royal for one hour (I called about 30 minutes before I was going to be there). She agreed and I arrived 5 minutes before the agreed upon time. I sat in the lobby area for a good 10 to fifteen minutes. I was finally let in by one of the other ladies. I took a quick shower Lea shows up as I am drying off. She then implies that I did not arrive on time (WTF). I do have to say that she did look very hot. So, she proceeds to tell me she can only do half hour session. I don't mind switching from full hour to a half hour session but why wouldn't you mention that when I spoke to you 40 minutes earlier. Things got much better once the session began. Massage was not as good as Jennifer's but very nice none the less. I did leave very happy. I even began thinking of another appointment with her (how do they do that). Her sessions would be much better if she would work on her customer service.

Hey everyone!

I'm coming in town next week for work, and was wondering if anyone knows when Natalie or Natasha work at Panacea? I usually just stop in without and appointment, however I want to see either of these 2 girls based on solid reviews that I have read. I would be done with my meeting in the late afternoon, which is when I would like to meet up with them. Thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help me out.

M

[QUOTE=Mike27L; 1885472]Hey everyone!

I'm coming in town next week for work, and was wondering if anyone knows when Natalie or Natasha work at Panacea? I usually just stop in without and appointment, however I want to see either of these 2 girls based on solid reviews that I have read. I would be done with my meeting in the late afternoon, which is when I would like to meet up with them. Thanks in advance for anyone who may be able to help me out.

M[/QUOTE]Calling them works just fine. Especially now that they have a receptionist.

[QUOTE=ElJudoka;1883382]Are Lin & Lea the same person? Anyway, I did setup an appointment with Lea at Royal for one hour (I called about 30 minutes before I was going to be there). She agreed and I arrived 5 minutes before the agreed upon time. I sat in the lobby area for a good 10 to fifteen minutes. I was finally let in by one of the other ladies. I took a quick shower Lea shows up as I am drying off. She then implies that I did not arrive on time (WTF). I do have to say that she did look very hot. So, she proceeds to tell me she can only do half hour session. I don't mind switching from full hour to a half hour session but why wouldn't you mention that when I spoke to you 40 minutes earlier. Things got much better once the session began. Massage was not as good as Jennifer's but very nice none the less. I did leave very happy. I even began thinking of another appointment with her (how do they do that). Her sessions would be much better if she would work on her customer service.[/QUOTE]Linn and Lea are the same. Like I said. She lost me. Evidently she doesn't need my 160. Look how she treated you. I've moved on.

I couldn't get any of girls on my check list at the other place up near Rockford, so I took a chance at East West after reviewing some of the girls postings on Backpage. I scheduled with Maggie. First let me tell you that Maggie is "fun size" as in 4'11 and maybe 100lbs if she had a 10lb weight on her. Super tiny. Super cute if you like spinners. Decent personality once she loosened up. Not great as massage. I don't think she is strong enough to do the job. Maybe if she walked on her clients. Great fun, left with smile.

I got an awesome massage there by an Asian lady for 60 a few months back. She spoke very little English. I left her a 30 tip because she was so good but any extras were off the table. There was only a curtain around us so there was very little privacy. Has anyone else had any success there?

Had the chance to go to Panacea after my scheduled event got cancelled. Took potluck and got Adriana. Nice, cute young thing, small perky tits, average massage skills at best. She may be new to the game. Required some direction on my part, but the ending was satisfactory. Not sure that I would ask for her next time. Maybe as her experience grows, her skills will improve.

[QUOTE=Steve2013;1883310]Went to wonder to see Camille found out she doesn't work there anymore where my camille then found out she now work at a new place up the road call Serenity Massage Studio I will diffinently be seeing her there glad to know she's doing good for herself.[/QUOTE]I just saw this, thanks for the update. She gives a pretty good massage with a HE, wonder if HE is available at Serenity? Has anyone been here yet?

Made a morning appointment to see Natalie. Boy am I glad I did.

I got there about 15 minutes early and was shown to my room. Natalie came in after a few minutes. She was wearing some ripped jeans and a hoodie. I love that relaxed style. She asked me to undress and get comfortable and she would be in soon.

I got a nice rub / massage for about 10 minutes on my back. She asked me to flip over. I did. She asked if she should take off some clothes, and I said please do. She stripped down to some sexy panties. Those tits are amazing!

I got another 10 minutes or so on my front. She rubbed my legs and my chest walking around looking amazing. I touched respectfully and we chatted briefly.

I won't spoil how the ending goes. She makes a show of it and is amazing doing it. My eyes were rolling in the back of my head from the waves of joy.

She chatted with me for a little while as she cleaned me up (she stayed unrobed during the process).

I will make sure to see her again. Smoking body, sweet, fun to talk to and does an amazing job. I highly recommend this lady.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;1893442]I just saw this, thanks for the update. She gives a pretty good massage with a HE, wonder if HE is available at Serenity? Has anyone been here yet?[/QUOTE]I stopped in but Camille was with another client. The desk was staffed by a larger white woman in her 30's- 40's. She did not seem to know what was going on and called a guy who was probably her husband up front. Not sure what will be available but it didn't have the HE feel to it.

Maggie sweet Maggie.

90 lb sweetheart.

Guys be nice to her, she needs some cash and earns every dollar.

Fairly decent massage. Had better.

On flip asked if I wanted more. I asked what was on the menu. Basically everything but real pricy for FS.

I spent 60 on house, and 100 on BBBJ. DATY, and HJ.

What a tiny delight!

If you see me homeless with a sign "will work for good". It's her fault as I will be back often.

[QUOTE=HuggableGuy; 1894544]Maggie sweet Maggie.

90 lb sweetheart.

Guys be nice to her, she needs some cash and earns every dollar.

Fairly decent massage. Had better.

On flip asked if I wanted more. I asked what was on the menu. Basically everything but real pricy for FS.

I spent 60 on house, and 100 on BBBJ. DATY, and HJ.

What a tiny delight!

If you see me homeless with a sign "will work for good". It's her fault as I will be back often.[/QUOTE]You know it's bad enough that the City of Wyoming and the PD are monitoring this place on a regular basis it's another thing to give them additional info out on an open forum. This tid bit of info only adds fuel to the fire. It's good that you review but do us a favor and keep the details of the appointment thru pm's. Wyoming PD has been parking in the upper lot and down the street monitoring the coming and going of cars, confirmed by my own eyes as well as some of the girls that work there or have worked there. Also been confirmed that Wyoming PD knows what's going on. Proceed with caution and keep the details on the open board to a minimum.

[QUOTE=WolvGuy;1894912]You know it's bad enough that the City of Wyoming and the PD are monitoring this place on a regular basis it's another thing to give them additional info out on an open forum. This tid bit of info only adds fuel to the fire. It's good that you review but do us a favor and keep the details of the appointment thru pm's. Wyoming PD has been parking in the upper lot and down the street monitoring the coming and going of cars, confirmed by my own eyes as well as some of the girls that work there or have worked there. Also been confirmed that Wyoming PD knows what's going on. Proceed with caution and keep the details on the open board to a minimum.[/QUOTE]I was just going to say the same thing! The ladies don't need the publicity.

[QUOTE=Scott Lee 44;1894928]I was just going to say the same thing! The ladies don't need the publicity.[/QUOTE]I sent him a PM too and I believe we have to be nice in how we tell anyone what to post out here in the open.

Personally I which more members[Male / Females] would post more discreetful information out here in the open and give out information like BBBJ / CBJ. FS / CFS / MSOG in PM[Private Message], but whatever works for him / her as long as it is helpful, I don't care / give a fuck.

I too would hate to see I believe the average asian lady that own that business to get in trouble, since she helped a friend of mine, when my friend got stuck during winter time.

[QUOTE=Jum Hall; 1894954]I sent him a PM too and I believe we have to be nice in how we tell anyone what to post out here in the open.

Personally I which more members[Male / Females] would post more discreetful information out here in the open and give out information like BBBJ / CBJ. FS / CFS / MSOG in PM[Private Message], but whatever works for him / her as long as it is helpful, I don't care / give a fuck.

I too would hate to see I believe the average asian lady that own that business to get in trouble, since she helped a friend of mine, when my friend got stuck during winter time.[/QUOTE]Ya I'm guilty of it. I shouldn't have taken the tone I did. It wasn't meant to be bossy. Sometimes I type without thinking things thru. LOL

You guys are absolutely right.

I will be more careful on my posts.

Again, my bad. It won't happen again.

Thanks

[QUOTE=WolvGuy;1894912]You know it's bad enough that the City of Wyoming and the PD are monitoring this place on a regular basis it's another thing to give them additional info out on an open forum. This tid bit of info only adds fuel to the fire. It's good that you review but do us a favor and keep the details of the appointment thru pm's. Wyoming PD has been parking in the upper lot and down the street monitoring the coming and going of cars, confirmed by my own eyes as well as some of the girls that work there or have worked there. Also been confirmed that Wyoming PD knows what's going on. Proceed with caution and keep the details on the open board to a minimum.[/QUOTE]On this we can agree to disagree. Everyone has an opinion on this, mine is the PD already knows about all these places and what goes on in them. Posting information on the board will not affect LE action one way or the other. Has anyone EVER heard of a place being brought down BECAUSE of a review on USAsexguide? I have frequently read reviews for other cities and in other states and many of them are much more detailed than what is posted in Grand Rapids. The Grand Rapids forum is the only one I have seen guys wanting less information posted. I hope the vocal minority of guys here who are wishing to keep information to a PM do not discourage the masses from posting useful reviews on the board.

Pictures now included in their ad. Anyone know the name of the girl in the pink?

[url]http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bts/4115715080.html[/url]