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[QUOTE=Figrindan;6327820][URL]https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/02/virginia-explores-ways-to-prevent-human-trafficking/[/URL]

Or if not afraid, just be aware.[/QUOTE]That's definitely a situation of which we need to be aware. It remains to be seen what, if any, legislation will be passed by this year's General Assembly session and sent to the governor. Yesterday was "crossover day," the halfway point of the session where legislation not passed by one house and sent to the other is considered dead for the year. (Budget bills are exempt from this deadline.) The key question here is whether the commission's recommendations were received in time for legislation to be introduced this year. Of course, such legislation could come up if a special session is called later this year.

Another thing to keep in mind: control of the General Assembly is divided. The GOP controls the House; Democrats control the Senate. Any bill which doesn't have bipartisan support will likely not advance.

So carry on, but be aware and read or listen to any news relevant to the hobby. At this time, I'm more concerned about potential local crackdowns.

[QUOTE=TomMcAn;6328601]That's definitely a situation of which we need to be aware. It remains to be seen what, if any, legislation will be passed by this year's General Assembly session and sent to the governor. Yesterday was "crossover day," the halfway point of the session where legislation not passed by one house and sent to the other is considered dead for the year. (Budget bills are exempt from this deadline.) The key question here is whether the commission's recommendations were received in time for legislation to be introduced this year. Of course, such legislation could come up if a special session is called later this year.

Another thing to keep in mind: control of the General Assembly is divided. The GOP controls the House; Democrats control the Senate. Any bill which doesn't have bipartisan support will likely not advance.

So carry on, but be aware and read or listen to any news relevant to the hobby. At this time, I'm more concerned about potential local crackdowns.[/QUOTE]You are right, it come down to who sitting in the office. Even the chief of police and the county sheriff. That why I try to avoid AMP that heavily advertised. The main thing is noisy neighbors. If I see anyone standing or walking around. I wait in the car till they leave and always check your surrounding. But I don't think Nova will do any serious crack down unless you got Karens in the area.

[QUOTE=LoveDemAzn;6328683]That why I try to avoid AMP that heavily advertised. [/QUOTE]Good point. According to Fox News report, the arrest and raid on AMP they did this week was because it was heavily advertised with pictures of scantily dressed girls.

[QUOTE=LoveDemAzn;6328683]You are right, it come down to who sitting in the office. Even the chief of police and the county sheriff. That why I try to avoid AMP that heavily advertised. The main thing is noisy neighbors. If I see anyone standing or walking around. I wait in the car till they leave and always check your surrounding. But I don't think Nova will do any serious crack down unless you got Karens in the area.[/QUOTE]Don't forget this is an election year, not only for the General Assembly but for local offices such as board of supervisors, sheriff, and Commonwealth's Attorney. I wouldn't be surprised if there are crackdowns ahead of June's primaries in order to give the impression that local officials are doing something about "trafficking," whether or not any actual trafficking is taking place. Yes, there should be prosecutions of anyone forcing providers to be in the business against their will, but politicians and our least favorite uncle like to slap the "trafficking" label on consenting adults activity simply because an exchange of money is involved.

[QUOTE=Figrindan;6327820][URL]https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/02/virginia-explores-ways-to-prevent-human-trafficking/[/URL]

Or if not afraid, just be aware.[/QUOTE]As I read this article, I notice a different narrative. It talks slightly about sex trafficking but really is an article about "labor trafficking" and it calls out many industries from restaurants to landscapers. Is it possible that the focus will shift away from AMPs since the human trafficking aspect doesn't seem to pan out all that well after a bust. Maybe AMP's aren't really a high value target after all. Has anyone else read about this new "labor trafficking" problem?

[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;6329825]As I read this article, I notice a different narrative. It talks slightly about sex trafficking but really is an article about "labor trafficking" and it calls out many industries from restaurants to landscapers. Is it possible that the focus will shift away from AMPs since the human trafficking aspect doesn't seem to pan out all that well after a bust. Maybe AMP's aren't really a high value target after all. Has anyone else read about this new "labor trafficking" problem?[/QUOTE]Agree with your assessment. For years I've wondered why the girls at Asian restaurants, especially buffet types are constantly changing? Plus, their demeanor and interaction with customers suggests they are too scared (or disciplined) to become friends with anyone.

Let's hope they'll go after these better, more productive targets and allow us to enjoy a good massage.

[QUOTE=RickNva;6329884]Agree with your assessment. For years I've wondered why the girls at Asian restaurants, especially buffet types are constantly changing? Plus, their demeanor and interaction with customers suggests they are too scared (or disciplined) to become friends with anyone.

Let's hope they'll go after these better, more productive targets and allow us to enjoy a good massage.[/QUOTE]Do we ever hear about the aftermath of these Chinese immigrants that are "rescued" from this so called trafficking? If LEO sees himself as the main character; the so called hero in this story. Who goes after the AMP raid boss and frees these Asian house elves from their shackles. What happens to them? Are they really free from the tendrils of us monstrous mongers? Now that their sole source of income is ripped from their hands. Do they use this freedom to go find a job as an undocumented worker that speaks little to no English? Will LEO give them a minimum wage job as a bagger at a grocery store? Maybe allow them to go on to teach our children in schools? Or do they just get deported back to China, the very hell they sacrificed everything to escape from? Or pushed out onto the streets and left to wither away?

I'm genuinely asking because I do not know, is there a system in place to protect these girls like the media narrative wants you to believe? To me it plays out like the nightmare before Christmas, where jack wants to be the hero Santa and "save" Christmastown only to leave it in horrific ruin with his twisted sense of heroism. Any monger who has dreamed at an AMP know the ladies don't fear us. They fear the cops. Why is that? Aren't they the good guys?

Yes, these ladies are victims of sex trafficking. Which is why after working a grueling 11 hour shift at the massage parlor they drift out, tired and weary.

Into their brand new 2023 Lexus RX and head home for the night.

I have been mongering for many years, I have a long term friendship with a MT, who has worked to get her MT license and in fact is now a United Stares citizen. She in fact loaned me money of which is being paid back. I have also had a long term relationship, love -hate with an MT who no matter what stays with hr husband although they never see each other, he tracks her movements every day and she gives him all the money, the business makes. She has in fact taken him to court for abuse but she remains in the same situation. There is a culture aspect to these girls working, we will never understand. I know for a fact, making money to send home o China for relatives to raise their as in the MTs kid, kids is very common. Some single girls are strictly here for the money to go back to China,very well off. There are thousands of AMP across the USA and more everyday. Most shops, stay low key and stay open for ever. When owners get greedy and own numerous shops, they create attention for taxes. I know a cop who said, most localities don't care about rub and tugs. I don't know the answers about trafficking but many women are willing to sacrifice their freedom to feed their families back home. So the question always is, are we hurting or helping them,Well if the government seems fit to let them open and never really treat them like other businesses, who are we to question,go and have fun. As a note,nail shops and Chinese restaurnts exploit their workers also.

[QUOTE=TheDrowned;6330131]
Yes, these ladies are victims of sex trafficking. Which is why after working a grueling 11 hour shift at the massage parlor they drift out, tired and weary.

Into their brand new 2023 Lexus RX and head home for the night.[/QUOTE]I broadly agree with your sentiment but we all do need to remember that real sex trafficking and slavery does happen. There are documented cases of women being coerced into the sex trade, withheld wages, etc. It's more prevalent in the cheaper ACS / LCS locations and much less likely in the upscale agencies. That's why we should all place some premium on ensuring that we are frequenting places that don't engage in those types of practices (and if you get a whiff of it, don't frequent them again).

[QUOTE=Derilious89;6330411]I broadly agree with your sentiment but we all do need to remember that real sex trafficking and slavery does happen. There are documented cases of women being coerced into the sex trade, withheld wages, etc. It's more prevalent in the cheaper ACS / LCS locations and much less likely in the upscale agencies. That's why we should all place some premium on ensuring that we are frequenting places that don't engage in those types of practices (and if you get a whiff of it, don't frequent them again).[/QUOTE]Cute. Written after you blow your load on the floor of an ACS.

Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: [URL]https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/virginia/human-trafficking-commission-releases-report-gives-suggestions-on-how-to-end-it-in-virginia/65-f13318ca-5541-4624-8aec-a63dc79c76ce[/URL].

[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;6337977]Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: [URL]https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/virginia/human-trafficking-commission-releases-report-gives-suggestions-on-how-to-end-it-in-virginia/65-f13318ca-5541-4624-8aec-a63dc79c76ce[/URL].[/QUOTE]Shit this read like it was Palpatine issuing the imperial order. Well it's been fun being a Jedi, but like the stars wars counterpart. They won't be able to eliminate all of us. I suspect it will just drive everything underground. No more raunchy ads, ect. I look forward to being the Obi-one of mongers.

Just make it legal for 2 consenting adults to have sex for money.

[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;6337977]Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: [URL]https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/virginia/human-trafficking-commission-releases-report-gives-suggestions-on-how-to-end-it-in-virginia/65-f13318ca-5541-4624-8aec-a63dc79c76ce[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;6337977]Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: [URL]https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/virginia/human-trafficking-commission-releases-report-gives-suggestions-on-how-to-end-it-in-virginia/65-f13318ca-5541-4624-8aec-a63dc79c76ce[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm wondering if we can volunteer to be CI's and help with locating the places who are actually trafficking? Imagine being immune to arrests, reimbursed for visits and if we're lucky, find the bad ones who are forcing girls into the life.

On a serious note, things like this is why I avoid places that advertise "new girls every week. " Where are they coming from and why the rotation? If my dumbass can read between the lines, I suppose "the man" can too.

Also wondering if they'll target Asian buffet type restaurants too? I've never seen the same waitresses working on multiple visits. And attitude of hostess and cashiers, seems like they are running or managing the operations and I don't mean the food service business.

[QUOTE=JimRob;6338351]Just make it legal for 2 consenting adults to have sex for money.[/QUOTE]Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf