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I've posted in response to some guys inquiring info on her but going to drop the link here again for anyone new looking since there's been a lot of talk about scams or bots figured I'd drop the link to a real girl I've met a few times now. Can gladly share more info on her too but she's great.
[QUOTE=LuvBoobies;3600633]I met Wild Wanda. Didn't really want to give a BJ. And well the sex part was lack luster. Nice body, but not really what I was looking for. Will not repeat.[/QUOTE]Lisa is nothing like her pics Pics if her at all are at least 15 yrs old and the experience isn't great.
[QUOTE=Bruco;3585172]I've had better luck with getting value out of girls from places like Greenville and Greensboro. Less bankers and lawyers throwing stupid money around there.
A little bit of a pain, but I can usually get them to meet me in between.[/QUOTE]Got any good leads on Greensboro girls?
Talked to Aylin and she is looking to meet more guys, I can attest that she is a lot of fun, not a clock watcher and super reasonable.
Just let me know that you will treat her well and she has given permission to give out her cell.
First off, gentlemen, if you're making contact with just one or two new SBs a day, you're doing this ALL WRONG. Don't come in here bitching about scammers unless you're making contact with at least ten new ladies a day with a quick and concise greeting. If you're having trouble finding girls to message, get less picky in your search perimeters. I have mine set on a fairly large range:
Age:18-32.
Budget: Negotiable. Moderate.
Options: Unviewed.
I message almost every girl that is currently online. It's crazy how much the lineup changes from one hour to the next. From there, you'll get several types, based on their responses. I could break down all the temperaments but I'll just start with the two that are most relevant to us.
BPGirl: If she gives you her phone number without you asking, if she discusses meeting without taking any precautions, if she mentions a hotel, and if she overuses the word 'baby' and 'honey' she's a BP girl on SA. If that is what you're looking for, no problem. Sometimes that's what I'm looking for too, but y'all need to take a page out of the Atlanta mongers' playbook and FUCKING NEGOTIATE. Most of these girls can be negotiated down from their GPS pedestal because they're tired of all the scammers on their end, and they've probably been at this without much success. It is most likely going to be an outcall, where you'll have to pay for the room, so be prepared.
Sugar Baby: They will want to get to know you a bit and are more likely to exchange email with you, because they don't have a burner phone like the BPGirls. I can break this category down into several subcategories, but if you contact enough of them, you'll see them yourselves. Just like DollarBill50 I've been able to date a really nice college girl that just wants to be treated to dinner, drinks, or a movie. Trust me. I've done the math and gotten my money's worth. The average BP girl charges 150-200 for her 'time'. That's $2. 50 - $3. 33 a minute. I haven't spent $200 on this girl YET, and I've already gotten $800 dollars worth a $200 BPgirl's intimate time.
I've had to end my correspondences with a few paranoid chicks that want me to send them a face pic, business card, or some other potentially damning info over the internet. TIP: if they so much as attempt to turn the conversation into an interview, where you feel like YOU'RE the one auditioning for them. DROP THAT B. ! No self respecting Sugar Daddy / Momma with a reputation to protect would take that shit, and neither should we. There are a few that will attempt to make monetary arrangements during the first date, which is completely understandable. Those ladies are genuine experienced sugar babies, and if you can't afford them, that's okay. They'll be disappointed, and you probably will too, but it's still okay. However, if they try to make monetary arrangements before meeting you in person, they're either a scammer or they think way to highly of themselves and neither are worth your time.
Conclusion: I hope the admin doesn't delete this next part because I'm not trying to start a huge debate here. DollarBill and myself have had the same challenges when it comes to racial restrictions on BP. We're not allowed to turn the charm off when we step into a room with a BP girl who's afraid of men who look like us. We have to go out of our way to make even the lowliest escort feel safe and comfortable, and I think that's a huge asset for us when we go into a situation like SA. There's a huge veil of social niceties that you have to abide by here, gentlemen. If you want a BPGirl who happens to be on that site, just message as many girls as you can and look for the signs, but if you want a genuine Sugar Baby who can give you a better return on investment, you'll have to turn that charm back on. Dress nice, be a gentleman, avoid ANYTHING that makes your interaction seem transactional, online and in person. You'll get your money's worth.
[QUOTE=PieMonger;3609591]First off, gentlemen, if you're making contact with just one or two new SBs a day, you're doing this ALL WRONG. Don't come in here bitching about scammers unless you're making contact with at least ten new ladies a day with a quick and concise greeting. If you're having trouble finding girls to message, get less picky in your search perimeters. I have mine set on a fairly large range:
Age:18-32.
Budget: Negotiable. Moderate.
Options: Unviewed.
I message almost every girl that is currently online. It's crazy how much the lineup changes from one hour to the next. From there, you'll get several types, based on their responses. I could break down all the temperaments but I'll just start with the two that are most relevant to us.
BPGirl: If she gives you her phone number without you asking, if she discusses meeting without taking any precautions, if she mentions a hotel, and if she overuses the word 'baby' and 'honey' she's a BP girl on SA. If that is what you're looking for, no problem. Sometimes that's what I'm looking for too, but y'all need to take a page out of the Atlanta mongers' playbook and FUCKING NEGOTIATE. Most of these girls can be negotiated down from their GPS pedestal because they're tired of all the scammers on their end, and they've probably been at this without much success. It is most likely going to be an outcall, where you'll have to pay for the room, so be prepared.
Sugar Baby: They will want to get to know you a bit and are more likely to exchange email with you, because they don't have a burner phone like the BPGirls. I can break this category down into several subcategories, but if you contact enough of them, you'll see them yourselves. Just like DollarBill50 I've been able to date a really nice college girl that just wants to be treated to dinner, drinks, or a movie. Trust me. I've done the math and gotten my money's worth. The average BP girl charges 150-200 for her 'time'. That's $2. 50 - $3. 33 a minute. I haven't spent $200 on this girl YET, and I've already gotten $800 dollars worth a $200 BPgirl's intimate time.
I've had to end my correspondences with a few paranoid chicks that want me to send them a face pic, business card, or some other potentially damning info over the internet. TIP: if they so much as attempt to turn the conversation into an interview, where you feel like YOU'RE the one auditioning for them. DROP THAT B. ! No self respecting Sugar Daddy / Momma with a reputation to protect would take that shit, and neither should we. There are a few that will attempt to make monetary arrangements during the first date, which is completely understandable. Those ladies are genuine experienced sugar babies, and if you can't afford them, that's okay. They'll be disappointed, and you probably will too, but it's still okay. However, if they try to make monetary arrangements before meeting you in person, they're either a scammer or they think way to highly of themselves and neither are worth your time.
Conclusion: I hope the admin doesn't delete this next part because I'm not trying to start a huge debate here. DollarBill and myself have had the same challenges when it comes to racial restrictions on BP. We're not allowed to turn the charm off when we step into a room with a BP girl who's afraid of men who look like us. We have to go out of our way to make even the lowliest escort feel safe and comfortable, and I think that's a huge asset for us when we go into a situation like SA. There's a huge veil of social niceties that you have to abide by here, gentlemen. If you want a BPGirl who happens to be on that site, just message as many girls as you can and look for the signs, but if you want a genuine Sugar Baby who can give you a better return on investment, you'll have to turn that charm back on. Dress nice, be a gentleman, avoid ANYTHING that makes your interaction seem transactional, online and in person. You'll get your money's worth.[/QUOTE]This is spot on advice. I actually do like to discuss money early on, just so I don't have to meet a girl for coffee to find out she wants 500 each time we meet, but otherwise this is great advice.
For the last 4 years, I've paid for a month, found a few girls, see them for a couple months, get bored, get back on SA for a month. Rinse and repeat.
And again, approach them more like it's [URL]match.com[/URL] not BP. Just be normal and not creepy. Even if they are down to hook up, they don't want to feel like a hooker. A little effort in that regard goes a long way. I have a cute little 20 year old red head who works at a day care center and a 22 year old Latina UNCC student to keep me busy for a couple months.
[QUOTE=Bruco;3609661]This is spot on advice. I actually do like to discuss money early on, just so I don't have to meet a girl for coffee to find out she wants 500 each time we meet, but otherwise this is great advice.
For the last 4 years, I've paid for a month, found a few girls, see them for a couple months, get bored, get back on SA for a month. Rinse and repeat.
And again, approach them more like it's [URL]match.com[/URL] not BP. Just be normal and not creepy. Even if they are down to hook up, they don't want to feel like a hooker. A little effort in that regard goes a long way. I have a cute little 20 year old red head who works at a day care center and a 22 year old Latina UNCC student to keep me busy for a couple months.[/QUOTE]Completely agree, while M&G's are nice to discuss things I find it's always better to get a number prior to meeting even if it's just for drinks I'll word it as "what are your expectations" and when she answers say "okay and financial expectations" somehow makes it sound nicer than "how much".
Careful guys. There are some real nut jobs out there. It is best if they don't know where you live.
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;3612548]Careful guys. There are some real nut jobs out there. It is best if they don't know where you live.
[URL]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article183141681.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Once you move one in it beomes a civilian relationship IMHO. Depending on state laws you become liable for certain things and depending on amount of time you have invested can end up paying big time. So moving one in pretty well does away with the sb thinking.
So I have been texting girls from SA on their phone and they are always asking for a pic of me. Is there anyway to get around this as some girls are persistent about it.
Thanks.
Mike.
[QUOTE=MikeAustin;3612906]So I have been texting girls from SA on their phone and they are always asking for a pic of me. Is there anyway to get around this as some girls are persistent about it.
Thanks.
Mike.[/QUOTE]A SB is going to want to see who she is meeting, the same as you would. Plenty of BP girls on SA who won't require a pic but no smart girl would ever meet without seeing who they are meeting.
Several posts on here that I agree and disagree with so I will add that personally I tell them up front that I am a 'pay at the end of the date / night' kind of guy.
Some are for that, some aren't. I am getting old (late 50's) and do NOT want an obligation for a weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly date (my schedule won't allow it) or allowance (NO WAY ferakin' allowance! You must make way more than me, and are hornier than me! And I can promise that I make more and have assets beyond 90%+ of you guys). Now I do think think the dinner, drinks, and cuddle time are reasonable. That is the perfect arrangement in fact. They are't a hoe, you ain't a john. They can go on to marriage, babies, etc doing what they what they had to do at the time and not feel guilty about it.
The reality is that 90+ % of the gals that post on the SB sites are one of two categories, 1) 90% are looking for a quick fix to their monetary issue; which mean you need to strike quick and help them out because tomorrow they're gone or have acquired the 3-4 SDs they need for whatever help they need each month or for whatever help they need. 2) they are posers from BP, CL whatever and are looking for a trick. And in that case they will take you up on the offer of "pay at the end of the date'.
Either way you win. The losers pay and don't get off. But do what you want. YMMV.
[QUOTE=MikeAustin;3612906]So I have been texting girls from SA on their phone and they are always asking for a pic of me. Is there anyway to get around this as some girls are persistent about it.
Thanks.
Mike.[/QUOTE]The only ones whom don't ask for a pic are BP / CL girls or ladies hard up for the next pharmacy run. So save your $ and don't use SA and stick out with BP. Normal women will want to see a pic.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3612932]A SB is going to want to see who she is meeting, the same as you would. Plenty of BP girls on SA who won't require a pic but no smart girl would ever meet without seeing who they are meeting.[/QUOTE]What if I already have a photo on the site and they ask for more.
Aylin, wow $. 80 multipop won't leave till your completely satisfied, Stayed a few hrs and finally told her, I can't get it up anymore, then she smiled and said, I bet I can and sucked me for a long time, and got it up again. This girl loves sex! You can't beat the price! She is a real pleaser! She goes above and beyond to make you happy. I can't go into details all the things she did for me, cause I am sure YMMV but my god! She knows how to make you happy! She'll even bring a laptop and do a show on [URL]charturbate.com[/URL] what a turn on. .
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Camocutie22 I didn't ask her for her name, but my god, I love small boobs and I did tell her to gain some weight cause she looks like a druggy but she is NOT a druggy. She is very skinny, but her mouth is like magic, I thought since I shave my cock that I lost feelings in my cock and but she is the very first girl that I have ever had that can suck a cock, It felt soooooo good! I loved it! Man! Oh her price was $$ for the hr. She is on my ATF List! She just clicked. She said she will try and gain some weight. She was awesome! No rush! Kind, kissed me all over, She also said, she speaks greek.
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