[QUOTE=RandyFarang;2567565]Somewhere Trashman is shaking his head wondering what has happened to the standards here. He must be thinking that flamethrowers have gone out of fashion.[/QUOTE]Are frowned upon in this establishment. LOL.
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[QUOTE=RandyFarang;2567565]Somewhere Trashman is shaking his head wondering what has happened to the standards here. He must be thinking that flamethrowers have gone out of fashion.[/QUOTE]Are frowned upon in this establishment. LOL.
Went to visit Nina recently as she is visiting the NoVa area. Google the name and her website comes up first thing. Gents, I cannot stress enough to stay away! I had what is probably one of the my worst personal experiences in this game. Not to mention she has the audacity to charge outrageous prices for her highly restricted service and horrible demeanor.
From the top: I checked out her ad on BP as she was advertising specials because there was no way I was paying her website prices since she clearly states she does not do GFE. Just as an example, her going rate is $3. 0 for the hour and a single pop! I asked, just for kicks, what a second round comes to and it is $4. 5. I just had to laugh at that. Anyway, I called and opted for her half hour special ($1. 2) since she sounded super sweet on the phone (I would later find out its part of her act). A somewhat inconvenient 3 call system involving neighborhood, street, and finally, location, got me to her. When she opened the door I wasn't surprised because her pics are an accurate representation but I will say she is pretty tall. The usual up front small talk happened but the whole time there was not a single smile or warmth to her voice. A complete turnaround from the persona she played on the phone. After a couple minutes of a covered warm up she rushed me and said to do it from behind. There was no option for anything else. She didn't allow any touching or a mouth or tongue on any part of her. It seemed as if she was disgusted with both herself and me just with my mere presence in the room let alone what I was there for. She groaned when I asked if we could switch to mish after a few minutes. She agreed but then got upset when I blocked her view of the tv! So she repositioned herself so she wouldn't even have to look at me and just watched tv while I was doing my best to finish as fast as I could and get the hell out of there. Sure we've all had our share of varying levels of service but nothing like that had happened to me before. Needless to say, I finished but left very unsatisfied. Just before I left she answered a call and went right back to the sweet voice that got me interested in the first place. My guess is the same thing was going to happen when that guy walked into her place. I just hope there hasn't been some poor guy who paid for her full hour, or even worse the multi-pop hour. As far as I'm concerned, with her level of service, she should be offering $. 6 specials at most. As with everything, I would venture to say YMMV but with her I am fairly certain most of the experiences are largely the same.
Hope this helps some of you avoid a bad apple.
[QUOTE=Suspect;2567458]Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795[/URL]
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something![/QUOTE]Thanks for the Intel. I might have guessed she is Thai, Kai is a common name, it means Egg. LOL.
[QUOTE=Suspect;2567458]Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795[/URL]
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;2568474]Thanks for the Intel. I might have guessed she is Thai, Kai is a common name, it means Egg. LOL.[/QUOTE][URL]http://statelaws.findlaw.com/virginia-law/virginia-prostitution-and-solicitation-laws.html[/URL]
The essential element in most prostitution related statutes is the exchange of something of value (money, property, etc.) for sexual activity. That's why in LEO stings, whether posing as a SW or a BP escort, the key component is to get the client so say something that can be construed as sex for $. Catching you in the stairwell before you even meet the girl would be a hard sell to a judge.
One other reason I doubt this was a sting is because, if LEO was really trying to nail you, they'd be much more careful about background noise and allowing themselves to be seen. They do this on a regular basis and are good enough at it that mongers who think with the little head are generally in cuffs before they know what hit them.
Since Landmark has a ton of providers working that area, it wouldn't be surprising to see LEO activity for any number of reasons. And the background noise could have been the girl's "manager" or another provider sharing the room.
Calling back and pretending your also LEO doesn't reveal much because either way she's going to hang up on you. If she's legit she hangs up because she's freaked out and if it's a sting she hangs up because no real LEO would call in on a line that's obviously been set up for the sting.
All that being said, thinking with the big head should advise all to steer clear of new, unverified or unreviewed providers. I know a lot of hobbyists get an adrenaline rush chasing after the newest ads with the hottest pics. But a lot of those pics are fake and you're more likely to get bait and switch or crap service than anything else. Or, of course, it also could be a sting but, if so, it would probably be much more professional and effective than what you described.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2568730][URL]http://statelaws.findlaw.com/virginia-law/virginia-prostitution-and-solicitation-laws.html[/URL]
The essential element in most prostitution related statutes is the exchange of something of value (money, property, etc.) for sexual activity. That's why in LEO stings, whether posing as a SW or a BP escort, the key component is to get the client so say something that can be construed as sex for $. Catching you in the stairwell before you even meet the girl would be a hard sell to a judge.
One other reason I doubt this was a sting is because, if LEO was really trying to nail you, they'd be much more careful about background noise and allowing themselves to be seen. They do this on a regular basis and are good enough at it that mongers who think with the little head are generally in cuffs before they know what hit them.[/QUOTE]There is VA Code § 18.2-347 (2014) - Keeping, residing in, or visiting a bawdy house. A bawdy house is any location where prostitution or assignation occurs. I personally know providers that have been charged for this, simply because LE suspects that they are at a particular hotel for prostitution. (I said charged, I don't know whether they have been convicted). I believe that the "visiting" of a bawdy house is the equivalent of assignation in MD.
I think that the important take away from this is that the provider had ads listed in many different states, over a period of at least a month. This tells me that if it is LE, they are using much more forethought in making their ads look more legit.
I agree with JMSuttr 100% - LE is generally not sloppy with stings and they normally don't place an ad or give out the address until they are already set up at a particular location. Moreover, LE watches the parking lot. If it were LE and a person was considered to be a legit caller, then LE would have been on the look-out for cars in the parking lot, noticed a car drive up and leave the parking lot, and likely observed that the person drove next door (particularly considering that the parking lot was empty). I am not in a position to question anyone, and I don't want to start anything, but that story is just unbelievable. However, if it is true, then you have a huge set on you to fuck around with LE, impersonate an officer concerning an ongoing investigation / police operation, and continue to call the number.
Well it was seemed like a operation. 1 LE in the car, 1 LE sitting on the stairwell, and maybe 2+ in the room. All I know is that I was technically the ONLY active person in the lot with about 4 cars in the lot. And if I were to have gone thru the process, I would have been stopped by them and most likely arrested or issued a summons for a misdemeanor. Because as soon as I said I was coming up the stairs the LE car zoomed DIRECTLY to the stairwell. , Quite frankly I do not care, what I say to that number especially if they are not who they say they are. I could impersonate or joke around, but I wouldn't say there is a bomb at the motel. Not trying to get FBI involved they could possibly find me with metadata.
I weighed it on my personal probability / possibility, I tell you. I have waited a good amount of time for her to get ready.
I know you might think I'm some noob with little amount of post but trust me on this, all I am trying to give is a warning.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?
The ad is still up, I may do this again and record it on video for proof.
These are the dates and cities for Kai's phone numbers other ads. Doubt she actually travels that much.
Northern Virginia, Landmark and Surrounding.
Wednesday, July 22,2015.
San Antonio, Downtown area.
Monday, July 27,2015.
Central Jersey.
Thursday, July 30,2015.
Seattle, Seatac, South Tukwila.
Tuesday, August 4, 2015.
Safe to say it's not the girl.
I saw a girl using the same pic with different name. Whether or not that is the same person or LEO, I've no idea.
As for Suspect's post, I take it with caution. His posts are quite immature.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;2569389]These are the dates and cities for Kai's phone numbers other ads. Doubt she actually travels that much.
Northern Virginia, Landmark and Surrounding.
Wednesday, July 22,2015.
San Antonio, Downtown area.
Monday, July 27,2015.
Central Jersey.
Thursday, July 30,2015.
Seattle, Seatac, South Tukwila.
Tuesday, August 4, 2015.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Suspect;2568921]Well it was seemed like a operation. 1 LE in the car, 1 LE sitting on the stairwell, and maybe 2+ in the room. All I know is that I was technically the ONLY active person in the lot with about 4 cars in the lot. And if I were to have gone thru the process, I would have been stopped by them and most likely arrested or issued a summons for a misdemeanor. Because as soon as I said I was coming up the stairs the LE car zoomed DIRECTLY to the stairwell. , Quite frankly I do not care, what I say to that number especially if they are not who they say they are. I could impersonate or joke around, but I wouldn't say there is a bomb at the motel. Not trying to get FBI involved they could possibly find me with metadata.
I weighed it on my personal probability / possibility, I tell you. I have waited a good amount of time for her to get ready.
I know you might think I'm some noob with little amount of post but trust me on this, all I am trying to give is a warning.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?
The ad is still up, I may do this again and record it on video for proof.[/QUOTE]First point: I wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place since I make it a habit to only see providers with positive reviews, positive comments on the board or recommendations received via PM. It's called homework.
Second point: I wasn't there and really don't care, one way or the other. But the fact remains that the gold standard of any sting is to get the client on tape talking about $ for sex. IMHO, your concerns about being arrested at some point BEFORE you got into room are overblown. I'm all for raising red flags when warranted but this doesn't seem to be one of those situations. I will repeat my warning, however, that it's best to steer clear of these kinds of ads until more intel is developed. The odds of finding a gem are slim while the odds of having a negative experience are high.
Finally, my point about the phone call was simply that there was no point to it. The fact she hung up doesn't reveal anything of consequence. And now you propose to go back and shoot a video? Really?
[QUOTE=Suspect;2567458]Decided to look for provider in landmark vicinity, I stumble on this ad this was a while back.
202-848-9341.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-visiting-your-best-kept-secret-amazing-skills-incall-specials/18522795[/URL]
And I called to get rate and addy, it took 15 min to text the addy, I arrive in the lot, it was a ghost town. I called 3 times but no answer. I have waited for about 15 min and I left, I saw LEO pull into the lot slowly. As I was leaving the lot I was like WTF (I'm so lucky), so I have a good feeling this is a sting ops, so I decided to go along with it. She called back and told me the room number and asks if I was LEO and I was like no and she was like great I'm not a LEO too. So she tells me the room #, I said great I'm coming, she says call me when your coming up the stairs I said okay and hung up. I went into another hotel next to it on a high floor, overlooking the LEO motel. She calls me back after 5 min and says where are you, and I hear people in the background. I say hey I'm on the back side of the motel. Wait for me. And I stayed on the line. And once I said I am now climbing up the front side of the motel stairs and she hanged up, the LEO zoomed exactly to the stairwell and I was laughing so hard in the other hotel. I then call back and say this is officer "" from another county LEO who is working this area who is the officer running this operations. She hangs up and I begin to harass the number. LOL.
Please stay safe everyone, I think you can be charged with "Solicitation" even if you don't go! Please use a prepaid number or something![/QUOTE]If she called you back, that means they have your #. Even if you are using an app, they can still get your IP, then you name. You also stated you were a LEO and then harrassed the #. You better hope it was not a sting, if it was, I would be prepared to have police show up at your house.
[QUOTE=Suspect;2568921]
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?[/QUOTE]Nowadays, I wouldn't see anyone on BP that has not been reviewed by a trusted source. It is not worth it. However, it is obvious that you had reservations about the situation, which is why you took precautions. If you have concerns, then you shouldn't visit.
The pics belong to Courtney Tailor. Big time poster on instagram. Hot girl but highly unlikely she is hanging around alexandria turning tricks for $ quick. [URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-busty-blonde-barbie-new-pics-fetih-friendly/18721578[/URL].
Most of her pix only bring up her 502 area code ads, but a search of pix used in her other ads brings up a hit with all of the pix. There are also pix of other girls in the same room. Notice the same Klimt-stye painting on the wall.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/my-passion-is-your-pleasure-never-a-tease-i-always-aim-to-please/18713767[/URL]
[URL]http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/nova/502-229-0228/1/261504[/URL]
[URL]http://www.imagefap.com/pictures/5277154/thediggitydank-pink[/URL]
[URL]http://www.poringa.net/posts/imagenes/2530580/Humeda.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Suspect;2568921]Well it was seemed like a operation. 1 LE in the car, 1 LE sitting on the stairwell, and maybe 2+ in the room. All I know is that I was technically the ONLY active person in the lot with about 4 cars in the lot. And if I were to have gone thru the process, I would have been stopped by them and most likely arrested or issued a summons for a misdemeanor. Because as soon as I said I was coming up the stairs the LE car zoomed DIRECTLY to the stairwell. , Quite frankly I do not care, what I say to that number especially if they are not who they say they are. I could impersonate or joke around, but I wouldn't say there is a bomb at the motel. Not trying to get FBI involved they could possibly find me with metadata.
I weighed it on my personal probability / possibility, I tell you. I have waited a good amount of time for her to get ready.
I know you might think I'm some noob with little amount of post but trust me on this, all I am trying to give is a warning.
JmSuttr and DoeSurfer if you think it was not a sting would you have gone thru?
The ad is still up, I may do this again and record it on video for proof.[/QUOTE]I'd like to add:
When the girl called you back asking where you were, why couldn't you have just said; "I'm hanging back. I see some police activity near the entrance of the motel. "? If she was ULE she would have hung up, but if she was a provider, she would have thanked you and asked you to wait or nix the session altogether. Same result.
Now, if by chance you do get caught by LEO in the hallway, the worst they could do right then is ask you where you're going. After all, how would they know that YOU'RE the one who called the number? Do they have the right to confiscate your phone? "Um, what phone?" Get your I'd? "Um, I left it in the car. ".
So when they asked why you were there, you would have responded:
"I'm in room xxx, but I lost my room key. Someone from staff is supposed to let me in. I'd better go downstairs and check again. ".
"I'm visiting a friend. But I forgot what room. I think I'm on the wrong floor. ".
"I was coming off the highway and was looking for an ATM, a restroom, directions, etc. ".
"I was about to check in and was just looking around. Why? What's going on?
Any other questions from them, repeat or shut up completely, I don't care how nervous you look. If they didn't believe you, the worst they would have done was make you leave. Same result.
Think about it, are the police going to wrestle you to the ground just for walking around, and risk freaking out the other guests? Does the (h) motel want their guests to see that?
Point is, there's so many things you could have done besides what you finally ended up doing. I certainly wouldn't taunt someone from my number unless I was planning on changing it or it was a throwaway phone. You just gave them a reason to f- with you. Hope you don't get blacklisted, or have a wife / gf get access to that phone.
[QUOTE=BigPoppa2308;2567769]Went to visit Nina recently as she is visiting the NoVa area. Google the name and her website comes up first thing. Gents, I cannot stress enough to stay away! I had what is probably one of the my worst personal experiences in this game. Not to mention she has the audacity to charge outrageous prices for her highly restricted service and horrible demeanor.
From the top: I checked out her ad on BP as she was advertising specials because there was no way I was paying her website prices since she clearly states she does not do GFE. Just as an example, her going rate is $3. 0 for the hour and a single pop! I asked, just for kicks, what a second round comes to and it is $4. 5. I just had to laugh at that. Anyway, I called and opted for her half hour special ($1. 2) since she sounded super sweet on the phone (I would later find out its part of her act). A somewhat inconvenient 3 call system involving neighborhood, street, and finally, location, got me to her. When she opened the door I wasn't surprised because her pics are an accurate representation but I will say she is pretty tall. The usual up front small talk happened but the whole time there was not a single smile or warmth to her voice. A complete turnaround from the persona she played on the phone. After a couple minutes of a covered warm up she rushed me and said to do it from behind. There was no option for anything else. She didn't allow any touching or a mouth or tongue on any part of her. It seemed as if she was disgusted with both herself and me just with my mere presence in the room let alone what I was there for. She groaned when I asked if we could switch to mish after a few minutes. She agreed but then got upset when I blocked her view of the tv! So she repositioned herself so she wouldn't even have to look at me and just watched tv while I was doing my best to finish as fast as I could and get the hell out of there. Sure we've all had our share of varying levels of service but nothing like that had happened to me before. Needless to say, I finished but left very unsatisfied. Just before I left she answered a call and went right back to the sweet voice that got me interested in the first place. My guess is the same thing was going to happen when that guy walked into her place. I just hope there hasn't been some poor guy who paid for her full hour, or even worse the multi-pop hour. As far as I'm concerned, with her level of service, she should be offering $. 6 specials at most. As with everything, I would venture to say YMMV but with her I am fairly certain most of the experiences are largely the same.
Hope this helps some of you avoid a bad apple.[/QUOTE]BigPoppa, I appreciate your review, but I have trouble believing that she was terrible across the board. Some of your review seems embellished.
Regardless, you've learned to heed the warnings of your intuition: You should be wary of a provider that offers a wide range in price points from ss to hh, from hh to fh, etc. If her hh was $1. 2, her fh should not have been $3. 0; more like $2. 4. And then a second pop was $. 5 extra?
You think you're getting a deal by going for the cheapest rate, but 8 out of 10 you'll end up wasting your time. You will never get your money's worth.
Give you an example:
A popular Asian provider recently quoted me $1. 25 ss and $2. 0 for hh, way more than BP standard. Can't knock the hustle, but her focus is on that hh. So for ss, expect a rush-rush session with a bunch of rules and restrictions. When these girls charge overinflated rates, settling for their cheapest is usually going to leave you disappointed.