[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4401636]
Regarding good looking providers, the secret is that backpage is gone and instragram is where most of the cute younger chicks find johns these days.[/QUOTE]Can you explain how you find girls on Instagram, please?
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[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4401636]
Regarding good looking providers, the secret is that backpage is gone and instragram is where most of the cute younger chicks find johns these days.[/QUOTE]Can you explain how you find girls on Instagram, please?
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;4401803]Interesting points and I agree on the theory. But I haven't seen a high quality girl in this area in quite a while. Lili was probably the last of an extinct species. A good looking girl who fucked and ate cum like she loved it. I gladly paid her 200+ per hour and would gladly do so again. But they just aren't around anymore. I know I'm not going to get that kind of service from an STG or EB girl anymore. And from what I can tell, the "high end" Eros girls are just as bad. So, I just want to scratch an itch these days. Why pay any more than the current falling rate? If / when the pornstar experience comes around, she will command the higher rate and I will pay it. Until then, I will fuck the bottom dwellers as cheaply as possible.[/QUOTE]As far as I know you have to know them first, nothing really to search under.
I remember the giant roast beef curtains as well. Along with the horrendous stank of cigarette smoke and teeth needing attention.
According to her FB page she is a lesbian (or bi at best) so that might have something to do with the no DATY, etc.
Med.
[QUOTE=TaylorFun69;4401251]Man, I haven't had a dream with Piper in a few years. The only thing really memorable about our dreams together were the giant lips on her kitty but unfortunately each time we had a dream she was very shy about anything related with them in any way at all. Not sure if her kitty's shyness has changed over the years. Been tempted to dream with her again but just haven't had the desire to since she doesn't offer DATY.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LookinGood;4401355]What the heck is the secret to booking with this chick? Texted her several times and all I got was a "hello". If any of you guys ever met Petite Missy from way back, I was hoping she would be a close second.[/QUOTE]I dreamed I saw Tatiana a couple of times. She's a bit skiddish on the first meeting, but after that she saves your number and then she's much more responsive.
The strategy I dreamed I used for the first meeting was to keep an STG search for her name open in a tab and refresh every so often. Then once I saw her post a new ad, I dreamed I messaged her and she responded.
Overall it was a good dream. It's definitely her in the pics and they seem relatively recent. She had a few rules, but not bad. She took direction well and did everything I asked. 220 for an hour. Will repeat.
[URL]http://archive.fo/yh6Rr[/URL]
I SW is katt? I think.
[QUOTE=Thinredline;4401378]He has 4 total shared videos.
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/users/siazul/videos/public[/URL]
The one titled "but tod" is also Renae. The 4th one with eh blond SW I have no idea about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ToySoldier;4401810]Can you explain how you find girls on Instagram, please?[/QUOTE]So when you see a late teens to early 20's chick on instagram who seems to be able to hit the gym instead of working a 9-5 but isn't in school, how do you think she affords it? The reality is that pretty girls on instagram who have direct messages enabled, receive plenty of them from guys. Guys offer everything from wanting to buy their underwear to wanting to fly them on trips. There was an article around the time backpage was shut down that really made me wonder why instagram wasn't treated the same way. While most chicks didn't outright advertise as prostitutes, the article interviwed several who made their money that way. Including one who had made enough to buy two houses and retire at 30. Turns out it was also a gateway to work at some of the expensive global escort agencies (think of who rich Saudis pay for their harem of women) as well as trafficking (the chick who gets 1 k upfront to fly to Dubai for a week and is promised 10 k at the end but then disappears).
The one person I know who does it did the following:
1. Make a fake facebook account and tie it to his burner (no pictures of him but vague lifestyle photos like of cool travel destinations).
2. Make an instagram account with that facebook account.
3. Add a few travel photos.
4. Find younger local girls he thought were cute and send a dm.
He told me that at first he tried following them and commenting on their posts but it was too much work and apparently some had private accounts. In the DM he says he tells the girl she's cute and that with his job he travels a lot and doesn't have time for dating. He then says he'll be in Raleigh or whatever city that week and asks if she wants to meet up for dinner to to buy her something nice. His success rate wasn't too high but it said the quality was better than skip the games. Apparently when it works they fall into two categories 1) the somewhat innocent chick who knows sex is expected after dinner or that shopping trip 2) the ones who know the score and just ask for a dollar amount up front. Of the ones in category 2 he said he will usually pay around 200 but they stay for a couple of hours. He said the girls who responded were very similar to seeking arrangements before the hookers got on there and started advertsing hourly rates and ridiculous allowances.
Again, this is not something I've tried because as he said, unless you're paying a lot or have really invested in getting your profile right your success rate will be low. Instagram for the most part is just a way for people to get social validation and attract orbiters. FWIW I know a young 20's chick who loves to put photos on instagram of her fake fat ass and huge tits in swimsuits. When she has dms turns on she gets everything from hood dudes saying dumb shit to guys saying they want to take her on trips. She told her mom that she's even had guys outright offer money for sex.
I have spoken to a couple of non-P4P guys who use instagram to find women, especially when they're traveling. They claimed their success rate was okay but both had actually invested in having someone improve their instagram profile and getting fake followers. We live in a world where women get tons of attention and validation. Sometimes even as a good guy you have to do something to stand above the crowd, especially if there's more than just money involved.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;4401828]As far as I know you have to know them first, nothing really to search under.[/QUOTE]Search by hashtag or location. For example, you can search for the Raleigh or Durham hashtags to find local chicks. Or check the page for a popular nightclub and look through the associated photos (not the ones that the club posts but ones people post when they're at the club). Taking that route you can get to the page for a lot of chicks. I've actually found a couple of ex-stripper's pages this way because I know what clubs they've gone to.
[QUOTE=NightTraveler;4402026]I SW is katt? I think.[/QUOTE]That's definitely Katt!
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4401636]It depends on the chick and what you're asking for. Considering that a blow job is going to last between 10 and 20 minutes for most guys, a chick could do one an hour for 7 hours a day 5 days a week and be making more than the average person in wake and durham county. If a chick has an apartment in a decent location and can prove she gets tested on the regular then I'd bump that up to 50 for the blow job. I think 120/ hr is at the sweet spot of sex with 150-200 being about where I'd expect it to be if p4 p was legal. At that rate doing 3 customers a day and paying a house fee still puts the chick above the average wage for most of the country. If it's regulated like many countries, you as the John would pay the additional house fee.
The truth is most of these chicks who give bad service do so because they don't want to be there and don't care about you wanting to be there. Given the nature of this business some have also spent an extensive period being treated like shit. It's fair to say that some of these chicks face worse PTSD than some soldiers. Drugs and whatnot also doesn't help to improve the performance. The reality is that with some of these providers paying 30 or 300 won't change their performance although it may put you ahead of some other guy in the line.
The risk is there regardless. I've met $400/ hr chicks who have caught stds, who take as many customers a day as they can get and don't clean between customers. I've also had flakes trying to get with eros chicks and agencies can be just as bad as pimps.
In my years of experience doing this one thing I've learned is that the price you pay for pussy here in the US rarely actually correlates to actual value for money (depending on what you value). IMO there was a time when the average chick at 250/ hr was light years ahead of the average chick at 120/ hr but that ship sailed long ago. Even on eros where you find chicks advertising for 500/ hr with a 1 hr minimum guys still have terrible experiences.
Regarding good looking providers, the secret is that backpage is gone and instragram is where most of the cute younger chicks find johns these days.[/QUOTE]Agree that price is no indicator of performance. Lots of high priced ones think their poop doesn't stink, and all of then think thy have the best, BJ and p* in the world. All of the girls are different, just as all guys are different. I search for value in being real with girls, deals and specials. A lot can be learned in texts. To me a good indicator is a sense of humor. If someone is rude right off the bat it turns me off. If someone likes seeing you because you are not judgemental, treat them well and make them cum, the price will come down because they want to see you. They will contact you because of the way you make them feel. I've been offered to come back as their treat many times, or a vastly reduced rate. Imagine having sex several times a day and no one takes any interest in making you cum.
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4402205]So when you see a late teens to early 20's chick on instagram who seems to be able to hit the gym instead of working a 9-5 but isn't in school, how do you think she affords it? The reality is that pretty girls on instagram who have direct messages enabled, receive plenty of them from guys. Guys offer everything from wanting to buy their underwear to wanting to fly them on trips. There was an article around the time backpage was shut down that really made me wonder why instagram wasn't treated the same way. While most chicks didn't outright advertise as prostitutes, the article interviwed several who made their money that way. Including one who had made enough to buy two houses and retire at 30. Turns out it was also a gateway to work at some of the expensive global escort agencies (think of who rich Saudis pay for their harem of women) as well as trafficking (the chick who gets 1 k upfront to fly to Dubai for a week and is promised 10 k at the end but then disappears).
The one person I know who does it did the following:
1. Make a fake facebook account and tie it to his burner (no pictures of him but vague lifestyle photos like of cool travel destinations).
2. Make an instagram account with that facebook account.
3. Add a few travel photos.
4. Find younger local girls he thought were cute and send a dm.
He told me that at first he tried following them and commenting on their posts but it was too much work and apparently some had private accounts. In the DM he says he tells the girl she's cute and that with his job he travels a lot and doesn't have time for dating. He then says he'll be in Raleigh or whatever city that week and asks if she wants to meet up for dinner to to buy her something nice. His success rate wasn't too high but it said the quality was better than skip the games. Apparently when it works they fall into two categories 1) the somewhat innocent chick who knows sex is expected after dinner or that shopping trip 2) the ones who know the score and just ask for a dollar amount up front. Of the ones in category 2 he said he will usually pay around 200 but they stay for a couple of hours. He said the girls who responded were very similar to seeking arrangements before the hookers got on there and started advertsing hourly rates and ridiculous allowances.
Again, this is not something I've tried because as he said, unless you're paying a lot or have really invested in getting your profile right your success rate will be low. Instagram for the most part is just a way for people to get social validation and attract orbiters. FWIW I know a young 20's chick who loves to put photos on instagram of her fake fat ass and huge tits in swimsuits. When she has dms turns on she gets everything from hood dudes saying dumb shit to guys saying they want to take her on trips. She told her mom that she's even had guys outright offer money for sex.
I have spoken to a couple of non-P4P guys who use instagram to find women, especially when they're traveling. They claimed their success rate was okay but both had actually invested in having someone improve their instagram profile and getting fake followers. We live in a world where women get tons of attention and validation. Sometimes even as a good guy you have to do something to stand above the crowd, especially if there's more than just money involved.[/QUOTE]I thought the purpose behind paying for pussy was like smashing the Easy Button. I'd rather just call Renea or (now that she has her shit together) Amber.
[QUOTE=ThrownC;4401268]Any reviews on Paradise? I couldn't find any here.
[URL]http://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/cary-area-wanna-escape-get-l/561129156564[/URL]
Would like to book an appointment but would love to have more information first.[/QUOTE]Saw her many years ago. She looks the same. Cute, lean, limited menu. She had several reviews claiming she wasn't so fresh down below. I contacted her recently and she was a rude GPS ***** over text and I moved on.
[QUOTE=LookinGood;4402317]I thought the purpose behind paying for pussy was like smashing the Easy Button. I'd rather just call Renea or (now that she has her shit together) Amber.[/QUOTE]Exactly. All these theories.
Girls got pussy. Pay them to fuck it. They will accept. Simple, beautiful.
Saw this one the other day. Not sure what to think. Pictures are hot, but she was sweaty, a little greasy and had no makeup in person. Paid 60 for her room. Not usually my MO, but she seemed legit. Stripped, covered by on her knees. Didn't mind calling herself a ****, which I love. No DATY. Again, caught a bad whiff. But her pussy was snug. Pounded her deep and ducked her tits in mish. Painted her tits, completely covering them both in cum. But not sure I'd repeat. Felt bargain basement and she could vamp it up a little. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Bubba83;4402297]That's definitely Katt![/QUOTE]Is Katt still in Raleigh?
[QUOTE=PleasureSeeker;4402344]Saw this one the other day. Not sure what to think. Pictures are hot, but she was sweaty, a little greasy and had no makeup in person. Paid 60 for her room. Not usually my MO, but she seemed legit. Stripped, covered by on her knees. Didn't mind calling herself a ****, which I love. No DATY. Again, caught a bad whiff. But her pussy was snug. Pounded her deep and ducked her tits in mish. Painted her tits, completely covering them both in cum. But not sure I'd repeat. Felt bargain basement and she could vamp it up a little. YMMV.[/QUOTE][URL]https://escortalligator.com.raleigh.listcrawler.com/post/34866647/Casey[/URL]
Was this the girl you seen? I've seen her a couple times. Everything was covered. Seen her lurking around in Garner with most of the EB girls around here.