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[QUOTE=HeGetsAround;6760953]Do you ready think inflation was so bad that everything now costs 2-3 times what they did 4 years ago? I hope not LOL, I've been paying close to 120-140 and have no problem getting decent providers and the job done. 250 better get me a model with GFE, otherwise I'm good.[/QUOTE]My friend, the only way you're getting a date with a model offering GFE for 250 is if escorts start doing Groupon.
[QUOTE=CeeriousFan57;6757963]I believe this is Jada:
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/let-me-melt-the-stress-of-the-holidays-away/62062864[/URL]
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-let-me-melt-the-stress-of-the/226038509517[/URL]
Set up an appointment and headed over. Called and was informed that she was actually elsewhere with her "girlfriend". Called a bit later and a black man answered. Ended the call and immediately after she called apologizing for her idiot "friend". Bailed.
Is this normal for her / is she managed? Her reviews here and on TER seemed OK, but they are from a while ago.[/QUOTE]That's odd! Saw her about a year ago. Had no issues with her, seemed nice. No management that I could see.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6736162]Man, that's really a shame about Cleo / Ocean, because I just looked at her twitter and damn, she could really make some serious dough in this town if she decides to provide good service. Scroll down past the posts of her with Valerie and you'll see what I mean. I don't like to go into risky situations, but she's got me thinking about it at least a little bit.
[URL]https://twitter.com/goddesscleo25[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like Cleo / Ocean is now on Seeking. Damn, if only she was GFE and not so blatantly "about the money," I would be helpless.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1ddb3de3-d7d7-4108-a422-a009ff13a902[/URL]
[QUOTE=HeGetsAround;6760953]Do you ready think inflation was so bad that everything now costs 2-3 times what they did 4 years ago? I hope not LOL, I've been paying close to 120-140 and have no problem getting decent providers and the job done. 250 better get me a model with GFE, otherwise I'm good.[/QUOTE]Where are you finding "decent providers" for 120 or 140? Even the junkies and other trash on STG usually ask more than that, and they're pretty far from what anyone would call "decent", at least if you have eyes, ears, and a sense of smell intact.
But you're right about his inflation claim being BS. A couple of years ago or even last year, you could get an attractive girl and a good experience off Tryst for about 400, sometimes less. Now the going rate for quality there is at least 6 or 7, only the low quality women are asking 3 or 4. Inflation may be high, but it hasn't been 50 or 75% in one or two years.
[QUOTE=Varanus;6761211]Where are you finding "decent providers" for 120 or 140? Even the junkies and other trash on STG usually ask more than that, and they're pretty far from what anyone would call "decent", at least if you have eyes, ears, and a sense of smell intact.
But you're right about his inflation claim being BS. A couple of years ago or even last year, you could get an attractive girl and a good experience off Tryst for about 400, sometimes less. Now the going rate for quality there is at least 6 or 7, only the low quality women are asking 3 or 4. Inflation may be high, but it hasn't been 50 or 75% in one or two years.[/QUOTE]It really is simple supply and demand: More mongers + fewer providers = higher prices. As for WHY the supply of providers is so low, we can speculate all we want, but like all social phenomenon, it's a complex combination of factors, not a simple single thing like "they all went to OF because they can make more $ selling content" or "unemployment is low" or "Russian bots ate all the quality hos. " Personally I think it mostly has to do with the North Korean weather control machines, but I have no solid proof.
[QUOTE=RunawayTruck;6761033]That's odd! Saw her about a year ago. Had no issues with her, seemed nice. No management that I could see.[/QUOTE]Had seen her a few times and did a report on her. Was positive not the best looking but friendly and accommodating. Were a few other reports never anything real negative that I can remember. She has been around for little while. She may be managed. Did see a black guy usually hanging around on the stairs or outside by side doors. Me personally I don't really care if a girl is managed as long as its consensual. I think that's her business. If she feels safer for it and is fine giving up her money why not. A smart pimp wants a repeat customer same as a smart girl.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6761477]It really is simple supply and demand: More mongers + fewer providers = higher prices. As for WHY the supply of providers is so low, we can speculate all we want, but like all social phenomenon, it's a complex combination of factors, not a simple single thing like "they all went to OF because they can make more $ selling content" or "unemployment is low" or "Russian bots ate all the quality hos. " Personally I think it mostly has to do with the North Korean weather control machines, but I have no solid proof.[/QUOTE]Now that's too funny! I guess it all depends on what trips your trigger and YMMV. One guy gets bbcip 140 the next guy can't get bb anything or has to pay 200 for a spit hand job with the same girl. What I find beautiful may not be your cup if tea. I have absolutely no interest in anything on the street, I don't want a massage, a hand job, or even just head. You can have the 5-6-700 girls too. Hard pass for me. I find it insulting to have to pay that much when I can have the same fun for free.
[QUOTE=HamFister;6758653]Just a quick FYI.
Most of the free text apps reuse the same numbers over and over. So if you try to text and never get a response there is the chance the number you are using could be already blocked. One popular provider here in Madison showed me she had what looked like over 100 numbers blocked.
Or you're just unlucky.
Or lucky if you really think about it.[/QUOTE]The best luck you can have is to leave this hobby behind, especially here in Madison. But to those of us unlucky enough to still be playing this game of roulette, you can always create your textfree throwaway number in a different area code. That decreases the likelihood of someone local having already blocked it to nearly zero.
[QUOTE=SnoopiesNose;6760894]Gabby is back, now going by Alana.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-girl-alana-/263239470489[/URL][/QUOTE]That ad is gone, but I found a newer one by searching for "Alana":
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/alana-sexy-snow-bunny-/285810827837[/URL]
The number in the newest ad is the same as Amber Best Kept Secret, who hasn't posted in a while:
[URL]https://backpagegals.com/escorts/female-escorts/madison-13277527[/URL]
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amber-alert----real-deal-608-9/208400327069[/URL]
What a small world, eh? This is a hint as to why you might want to avoid this opportunity.
[QUOTE=BlutoMadison;6762385]The best luck you can have is to leave this hobby behind, especially here in Madison. But to those of us unlucky enough to still be playing this game of roulette, you can always create your textfree throwaway number in a different area code. That decreases the likelihood of someone local having already blocked it to nearly zero.[/QUOTE]Pretty knowledgeable for someone with 2 posts LOL.
Had a nice dream with this one.
She periodically visits Madison.
She's real good at comms.
Was delayed but my patience paid off.
She aims to please and is freaky as hell and has a pretty open menu.
Dm for more details.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/reicapella[/URL]
[QUOTE=RadCoach;6763239]Pretty knowledgeable for someone with 2 posts LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh, pretty sure he has thousands and thousands of posts LOL. I've noticed a theme
[QUOTE=SitNud;6763878]Oh, pretty sure he has thousands and thousands of posts LOL. I've noticed a theme[/QUOTE]That and I see he's gone back to the theme from one of his original names years ago. Not sure what's up with the name change, but none of my business either.
[QUOTE=NoDamage;6763937]That and I see he's gone back to the theme from one of his original names years ago. Not sure what's up with the name change, but none of my business either.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I figured it out. Just didn't see the two posts.
[QUOTE=NoDamage;6763937]That and I see he's gone back to the theme from one of his original names years ago. Not sure what's up with the name change, but none of my business either.[/QUOTE]Anybody remember Sierra Rose, from Milwaukee?
[QUOTE=BlutoMadison;6764543]Anybody remember Sierra Rose, from Milwaukee?[/QUOTE]One time was an amazing piece of ass.
Then her life went downhill. Got into a car chase with her guy or something and was doing time. That made the news.
[QUOTE=HamFister;6764600]One time was an amazing piece of ass.
Then her life went downhill. Got into a car chase with her guy or something and was doing time. That made the news.[/QUOTE]Damn, she was active a long time ago. She would setup a camera as long as you provided the SD card and signed something saying you would not share the video etc.
[QUOTE=HamFister;6764600]One time was an amazing piece of ass.
Then her life went downhill. Got into a car chase with her guy or something and was doing time. That made the news.[/QUOTE]I only saw her once, early on. Kind of crazy. Once we got to her place, I realized I couldn't possibly keep up with her. I tried. Anyway, she gave me my original nickname. And a little toiletries kit. I still have that thing.
[QUOTE=NoDamage;6764620]Damn, she was active a long time ago. She would setup a camera as long as you provided the SD card and signed something saying you would not share the video etc.[/QUOTE]She was in a car with a guy and we're being chased by police and it turned into a hostage situation. I remember her getting a prison sentence. This happened many years ago and she still might be on vacation. It was news in the Milwaukee forum.
As Popeye said yes she was out there, missing a little something but she could deliver the goods especially if she liked you. I vividly remember some great times with her. At the end though she started packing on the pounds and was not easy to be around. I'll remember my good times and hope she is well.
[QUOTE=NoDamage;6763937]That and I see he's gone back to the theme from one of his original names years ago. Not sure what's up with the name change, but none of my business either.[/QUOTE]It's the same theme. The last one was the creator of the one before it.
[QUOTE=SitNud;6763878]Oh, pretty sure he has thousands and thousands of posts LOL. I've noticed a theme[/QUOTE]I was thinking there would have been a response from him for that!
[QUOTE=RadCoach;6765566]I was thinking there would have been a response from him for that![/QUOTE]Still waiting for the appearance of a new member with the handle WimpyMadison.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6765613]Still waiting for the appearance of a new member with the handle WimpyMadison.[/QUOTE]Are to explain what that means and why it's directed at me?
Can someone please explain the situation with her to me? Her website is [URL]https://www.drangelicawhitephd.com/[/URL] and the first time I saw it, I thought "well, she's either going to murder me or give me the best rub and tug of my life. Neither happened!! I was so confused and thought that maybe she needed to vet me or that I needed to be more forward. I went back, and got a great massage that left no doubt in my mind that an ending was coming. But nothing. So I asked, and she said she doesn't do that. I apologized and figured I misread things, despite the fact that she is offering in-home, cash only, "VIP" massages on Craigslist. Recently, I got a text from her with a special, so I figured I'd give it one more shot. Details below.
I just want to know if there's a story here or if there's some secret password or membership I'm unaware of that unlocks the happy ending. I cannot be misreading this situation (see below), and the massage is great! The pictures are obviously edited, but she's attractive, nice, and has a great pair. I'd go once a month minimum, if it didn't end in blue balls! I love the professional massage that turns dirty concept, particularly since she speaks English.
Today: I went today fully intent to just enjoy the massage and know that nothing was coming at the end. I still almost couldn't believe it. She provides these skimpy male underwear for you to change into (from a package). She has a massage headrest and a heated cushion for you to lie down on. Again, massage is great. Oily with your choice of pressure. She even clips the back of the underwear up, so you're basically wearing a jockstrap. Even with that, she slides them down halfway at points, pushes her hands under the elastic waste band, etc. Her hands are on the inner thighs a lot. It's great and very erotic. Then the flip. She does a full front massage, and it definitely goes past the edges of a regular professional massage. She does light fingernails all over your body, and her fingers consistently slide under the waste band of these tiny (yet baggy - 2 xl) underwear. Each leg, her hands run up the thigh and go slightly under the thigh hole of the underpants. Sometimes she uses her feet. Hands and feet both make brushing contact with the balls on occasion. The front side feels constantly like she could at any moment slide her hands up an inch or two (in my case, LOL) and be under the underwear and grabbing hold. The massage literally finished with her moving my legs further apart and her kneeling between them and running her hands up and down my inner thighs (again, going slightly under the actual underwear at the thigh hole). Then it was just over! I was so cranked up, I almost embarrassed myself again asking if there is more. I'm not even looking for FS. Just a tugger would be incredible after that buildup.
Anyway. Just wanted to see if there was any way or world to get the finish with her. I'd go all the time if it was possible. Every other bit was awesome. Except the blue balls.
[QUOTE=RadCoach;6765819]Are to explain what that means and why it's directed at me?[/QUOTE]Not directed specifically at you. Just continuing the riff on a certain forum member's series of identities. As noted earlier in this thread, there's a theme.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6761477]It really is simple supply and demand: More mongers + fewer providers = higher prices. As for WHY the supply of providers is so low, we can speculate all we want, but like all social phenomenon, it's a complex combination of factors, not a simple single thing like "they all went to OF because they can make more $ selling content" or "unemployment is low" or "Russian bots ate all the quality hos. " Personally I think it mostly has to do with the North Korean weather control machines, but I have no solid proof.[/QUOTE]Part of the supply and demand is correct, as I'm in the Miami area right now and the market is flooded (mainly with Latinas). However, the high end girls still want their 600-1200. There are a couple on tryst for 300-400, possibly cheaper with the few that have half hour rates. I'm sure if you dumpster dive you could find the 150's like some in Madison are. However, I visited a strip club down here, not one of the more high end ones, and a girl immediately grabbed my member, started rubbing it and we made a deal for BBBJ for 200. I was in and out of there in little more than 20 minutes. Wish that was available in Madison.
I will say that I haven't found anything for deals in the cities like Chicago and NY. The going rate in NY for girls I liked seemed to be 700.
Clara Dolce.
[URL]https://touringvipgirls.freeescortsite.com/escorts/clara-dolce/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eros.com/wisconsin/files/9086632.htm?cat=6208&wn=1[/URL]
She's visiting Madison all weekend with a safe agency for 350 hour then to Milwaukee. If you see her, leave a review and note if she's GFE / BBJ / DFK?
[QUOTE=BrutonGaster;6766064]Can someone please explain the situation with her to me? Her website is [URL]https://www.drangelicawhitephd.com/[/URL] and the first time I saw it, I thought "well, she's either going to murder me or give me the best rub and tug of my life. Neither happened!! I was so confused and thought that maybe she needed to vet me or that I needed to be more forward. I went back, and got a great massage that left no doubt in my mind that an ending was coming. But nothing. So I asked, and she said she doesn't do that. I apologized and figured I misread things, despite the fact that she is offering in-home, cash only, "VIP" massages on Craigslist. Recently, I got a text from her with a special, so I figured I'd give it one more shot. Details below.
I just want to know if there's a story here or if there's some secret password or membership I'm unaware of that unlocks the happy ending. I cannot be misreading this situation (see below), and the massage is great! The pictures are obviously edited, but she's attractive, nice, and has a great pair. I'd go once a month minimum, if it didn't end in blue balls! I love the professional massage that turns dirty concept, particularly since she speaks English.
Today: I went today fully intent to just enjoy the massage and know that nothing was coming at the end. I still almost couldn't believe it. She provides these skimpy male underwear for you to change into (from a package). She has a massage headrest and a heated cushion for you to lie down on. Again, massage is great. Oily with your choice of pressure. She even clips the back of the underwear up, so you're basically wearing a jockstrap. Even with that, she slides them down halfway at points, pushes her hands under the elastic waste band, etc. Her hands are on the inner thighs a lot. It's great and very erotic. Then the flip. She does a full front massage, and it definitely goes past the edges of a regular professional massage. She does light fingernails all over your body, and her fingers consistently slide under the waste band of these tiny (yet baggy - 2 xl) underwear. Each leg, her hands run up the thigh and go slightly under the thigh hole of the underpants. Sometimes she uses her feet. Hands and feet both make brushing contact with the balls on occasion. The front side feels constantly like she could at any moment slide her hands up an inch or two (in my case, LOL) and be under the underwear and grabbing hold. The massage literally finished with her moving my legs further apart and her kneeling between them and running her hands up and down my inner thighs (again, going slightly under the actual underwear at the thigh hole). Then it was just over! I was so cranked up, I almost embarrassed myself again asking if there is more. I'm not even looking for FS. Just a tugger would be incredible after that buildup.
Anyway. Just wanted to see if there was any way or world to get the finish with her. I'd go all the time if it was possible. Every other bit was awesome. Except the blue balls.[/QUOTE]We have a similar situation at an AMP up here. Very attractive provider, excellent massage, some hint of tease (brushing and incidental contact with the boys), lots of inner thigh, and then nothing.
The code to unlock more is to first initiate self service. Ask her "thank you for the incredible massage, as you can see I am very worked up here, do you mind if I take care of that?" and see what happens. She may say "absolutely not, go home and do that" or leave the room and let you finish (neither is what you want but you will know you have exhausted all avenues), she may stand there and watch (could be mildly hot), or she may enthusiastically join in once she knows its completely safe (that too is not completely safe from a LE standpoint, but that's another conversation), especially if you ask her to join mid way through (assuming she stays in the room with you). That is what it takes to "get in the club" here and once you are in and she can trust you, the SS initiation part is no longer required.
Just curious, the website does not mention rates. What are her 30/60 min massage sessions fee wise? That would also help explain what level of tip might be expected (if any). If she is at market rate (50 ish for 30 or 70 ish for 60) there is a lot of room for a tip. If she is in line with professional (I. E. Legit) massage (usually 120 or more for 60) then its much less likely a tip is expected or anticipated as part of "exceptional" service.
Just some thoughts, definitely good luck and definitely keep us posted on your progress, this is an interesting one.
One other point, I think those pictures on her website and not just edited, they are completely AI generated (as in not real at all). I am in the "AI" business and the capabilities there continue to evolve. Soon, the difference between real life pictures and AI generated will be close to imperceptible. Would be interested to hear more about how close her real life description is compared to those pics.
Peace!
[QUOTE=HamFister;6764600]One time was an amazing piece of ass.
Then her life went downhill. Got into a car chase with her guy or something and was doing time. That made the news.[/QUOTE]I did check on her a while back. Sierra is probably still on an all-inclusive State "vacation". If one was interested, one could find her real name in the archived news reports, then do a CCAP search and an inmate search to find the details.
I would like to start a discussion around UTR providers and how to make first contact. It appears to be the classic chicken and egg scenario. If I have an UTR provider, then I would be reluctant to share any info, and if info is being shared, they arent really UTR. On the flip side, if I don't have a UTR provider, I cannot get / ask for said info because of the former. What I am looking for, and I think would be a good general discussion for this group, would be if you have one or more UTR providers, how did you get there. I'm willing to put in the time and learn / experiment, but starting out on the right foot with some hints, tricks, and pointers would be helpful.
Thank you for any and all information you care to share.
As always.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Buster1030;6766494]We have a similar situation at an AMP up here. Very attractive provider, excellent massage, some hint of tease (brushing and incidental contact with the boys), lots of inner thigh, and then nothing.
The code to unlock more is to first initiate self service. Ask her "thank you for the incredible massage, as you can see I am very worked up here, do you mind if I take care of that?" and see what happens. She may say "absolutely not, go home and do that" or leave the room and let you finish (neither is what you want but you will know you have exhausted all avenues), she may stand there and watch (could be mildly hot), or she may enthusiastically join in once she knows its completely safe (that too is not completely safe from a LE standpoint, but that's another conversation), especially if you ask her to join mid way through (assuming she stays in the room with you). That is what it takes to "get in the club" here and once you are in and she can trust you, the SS initiation part is no longer required.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That's good advice. I'm definitely going to try something along those lines. There's just a world where this woman is inexplicably marketing a non-sexual service in the most sexual way possible, and I don't want to harass her, if that's the case. I'll answer your questions below. In exchange can you provide any info on where "up here" is or what provider you may be discussing? DM is ok, if you'd prefer. Also ok if you'd prefer not to.
Her rates are available on her Craigslist ads, but it's been $100 for a 1 hour "featherlite / soft touch" or $160 for a 1 hour CBD / VIP. She also offers 1.5 hour visits for an extra $50 (each type). I've done both the 1 hour and 1. 5 hour VIP ones. She also offers a 2 hour session, but I can't imagine that's what it would take to get across the finish line. I assumed the VIP would be the choice.
I agree about the pics. They do seem to be at least based on her somehow. But her hair is usually up, and it is more of a reddish hue. I wouldn't say she's hot, but she at least vaguely resembles those photos (other than the hair color) and is attractive enough. She's usually wearing a tight fitting tank top that shows a good amount of cleavage and tight shorts. Pretty average size body, etc. , though she appears to have pretty good size tits. I will keep you posted if I get anywhere.
[QUOTE=Buster1030;6766868]I would like to start a discussion around UTR providers and how to make first contact. It appears to be the classic chicken and egg scenario. If I have an UTR provider, then I would be reluctant to share any info, and if info is being shared, they arent really UTR. On the flip side, if I don't have a UTR provider, I cannot get / ask for said info because of the former. What I am looking for, and I think would be a good general discussion for this group, would be if you have one or more UTR providers, how did you get there. I'm willing to put in the time and learn / experiment, but starting out on the right foot with some hints, tricks, and pointers would be helpful..[/QUOTE]You're right about the chicken and egg problem. I've found a couple UTRs by asking the escorts I regularly see if they have any friends that they can bring for a duo. Then ask for info about the friend to see if it's an UTR or other established lady. During the duo, if I like the UTR, I can get her contact info and see her separately.
[QUOTE=EndoExo;6766942]You're right about the chicken and egg problem. I've found a couple UTRs by asking the escorts I regularly see if they have any friends that they can bring for a duo. Then ask for info about the friend to see if it's an UTR or other established lady. During the duo, if I like the UTR, I can get her contact info and see her separately.[/QUOTE]That is an excellent idea. I would have never thought about that. I've had a couple of providers that do not advertise much but that is the closest thing I've found to UTR. I will totally try the "reference" approach though. I've never done a duo, I do have it on the bucket list though.
Thank you!
Peace.
[QUOTE=BrutonGaster;6766064]Can someone please explain the situation with her to me? Her website is [URL]https://www.drangelicawhitephd.com/[/URL] and the first time I saw it, I thought "well, she's either going to murder me or give me the best rub and tug of my life. Neither happened!! I was so confused and thought that maybe she needed to vet me or that I needed to be more forward. I went back, and got a great massage that left no doubt in my mind that an ending was coming. But nothing. So I asked, and she said she doesn't do that. I apologized and figured I misread things, despite the fact that she is offering in-home, cash only, "VIP" massages on Craigslist. Recently, I got a text from her with a special, so I figured I'd give it one more shot. Details below.
I just want to know if there's a story here or if there's some secret password or membership I'm unaware of that unlocks the happy ending. I cannot be misreading this situation (see below), and the massage is great! The pictures are obviously edited, but she's attractive, nice, and has a great pair. I'd go once a month minimum, if it didn't end in blue balls! I love the professional massage that turns dirty concept, particularly since she speaks English.
Today: I went today fully intent to just enjoy the massage and know that nothing was coming at the end. I still almost couldn't believe it. She provides these skimpy male underwear for you to change into (from a package). She has a massage headrest and a heated cushion for you to lie down on. Again, massage is great. Oily with your choice of pressure. She even clips the back of the underwear up, so you're basically wearing a jockstrap. Even with that, she slides them down halfway at points, pushes her hands under the elastic waste band, etc. Her hands are on the inner thighs a lot. It's great and very erotic. Then the flip. She does a full front massage, and it definitely goes past the edges of a regular professional massage.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent review, very detailed. Thank you. Matches my experience exactly. I have zero regrets about seeing her, but once was enough for me.
[QUOTE=BlutoMadison;6762397]That ad is gone, but I found a newer one by searching for "Alana":
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/alana-sexy-snow-bunny-/285810827837[/URL]
The number in the newest ad is the same as Amber Best Kept Secret, who hasn't posted in a while:
[URL]https://backpagegals.com/escorts/female-escorts/madison-13277527[/URL]
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/amber-alert----real-deal-608-9/208400327069[/URL]
What a small world, eh? This is a hint as to why you might want to avoid this opportunity.[/QUOTE]The most recent ad is also gone.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6765613]Still waiting for the appearance of a new member with the handle WimpyMadison.[/QUOTE]This is a very clever and flagrant suggestion. I'll add it to the hopper.
[QUOTE=SitNud;6765204]It's the same theme. The last one was the creator of the one before it.[/QUOTE]I was wondering if anyone was ever going to crack that particular easter egg. Good job!
[QUOTE=BlutoMadison;6767353]This is an excellent review, very detailed. Thank you. Matches my experience exactly. I have zero regrets about seeing her, but once was enough for me.[/QUOTE]I sent her a text saying I would like to see her but will not wear underwear. As I get lots of massages without wearing underwear. I did see her back in 2012 and the second time I left underwear off & she covered me with a pillowcase. Good massage only. Some of her pics are the same as 2012.
[QUOTE=BrutonGaster;6766064]Can someone please explain the situation with her to me? Her website is [URL]https://www.drangelicawhitephd.com/[/URL] and the first time I saw it, I thought "well, she's either going to murder me or give me the best rub and tug of my life. Neither happened!! I was so confused and thought that maybe she needed to vet me or that I needed to be more forward. I went back, and got a great massage that left no doubt in my mind that an ending was coming. But nothing. So I asked, and she said she doesn't do that. I apologized and figured I misread things, despite the fact that she is offering in-home, cash only, "VIP" massages on Craigslist. Recently, I got a text from her with a special, so I figured I'd give it one more shot. Details below.
I just want to know if there's a story here or if there's some secret password or membership I'm unaware of that unlocks the happy ending. I cannot be misreading this situation (see below), and the massage is great! The pictures are obviously edited, but she's attractive, nice, and has a great pair. I'd go once a month minimum, if it didn't end in blue balls! I love the professional massage that turns dirty concept, particularly since she speaks English.
Today: I went today fully intent to just enjoy the massage and know that nothing was coming at the end. I still almost couldn't believe it. She provides these skimpy male underwear for you to change into (from a package). She has a massage headrest and a heated cushion for you to lie down on.[/QUOTE]I saw her a long time ago before she was Dr. White and went by her real name. Her birth name is not white. She changed it after getting her medical training. She used to model and did some semi nude stuff. The experience was pretty strange and absolutely no hint that anything more than a weak but occasionally teasing massage was an option. I got the impression that she was very nice, but somewhat out there. I would be worried that she would call the police if you did anything that she felt was inappropriate. I dd think about starting to self serve, but I was worried that might trigger her. Anyone self serve with her and not end up in handcuffs?
[QUOTE=Sunflower;6767613]I sent her a text saying I would like to see her but will not wear underwear. As I get lots of massages without wearing underwear. I did see her back in 2012 and the second time I left underwear off & she covered me with a pillowcase. Good massage only. Some of her pics are the same as 2012.[/QUOTE]I think I saw her around 2013-14. She was just a masseuse and model then. Did you get the sense that there was something a bit off?