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[QUOTE=MyNickname;5765821]For a moment I thought he was more concerned about keeping his real identity from her. Good information.[/QUOTE]Not an issue. I've used a pre-paid vanilla card, registered under my hobby name, with a fictitious but real address, to pay for testing. No ID required at the lab.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d9922c3-6a29-4cd0-916c-f9093255ed9c[/URL]
Chatted with her a bit, switched to text and she asked what allowance I would provide. Well she isn't that cute and her body is "meh" so I threw out 200-250, you never know she might be a good fuck. She comes back and says she would do a meet and greet for 200 but that sex was 750 LOL.
[QUOTE=InFrequently;5767480]Not an issue. I've used a pre-paid vanilla card, registered under my hobby name, with a fictitious but real address, to pay for testing. No ID required at the lab.[/QUOTE]Smart. That is how I do it. Just hate the fact that I have to pay $5 every time I reload cash into my vanilla card. Other than that it is perfect for anonymity. Use it for porn website membership fees, SA etc. The best way to pay for things online without having to buy bitcoin (which can be tedious at times).
[QUOTE=SeattleB;5767002]Was chatting up one of the younger, very attractive members. She told me she got 1 k for a platonic dinner date. Jesus, hard to Compete with that.[/QUOTE]I doubt she was paid 1 K for a lunch. This is a very common tactic that women use, to make a man feel incapable of "providing". There is really no need for her to share that type of information, unless she feels telling that to you will motivate you to step up your own game. If someone gives me that line I politely tell that is an incredible deal and ask them what they are doing chatting with me. Any nut with half a brain would be sucking that deal dry for all it was worth. Ask her cut out the crap, she is not fooling anyone.
When I long on there is a big banner to click.
[QUOTE=SeattleB;5767311]I did reach out to her after shooting her down for a 500 platonic date and asked if she got was she was looking for. She might just be blowing smoke, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's telling the truth. Tech money has fucked the market on SA.[/QUOTE]I still don't believe that. I mean, I've done the SA thing for a while and I can tell it's a real struggle out there for them. I've never met a girl on there who wasn't excited / relieved at how nice I was and that I actually had money. They come in with really high hopes and expectations and then get shot down because it just doesn't play out like the TikToks say it will. I would say that at least 90% of the time, if you treat those girls like human beings, they not only don't cost that much but you'll get some really good service and sometimes even get to have them just because you took them to lunch. There's no doubt that a ton of those girls have borderline PTSD from what guys on there have done to them. I've heard stories about how guys promised them some amount of money, then they end up fucking them really rough, spitting on them, verbally degrading them, and then throwing them $40 as they walk out.
I'm not a hot guy. I'm a 5'4" asian with a tiny dick and there's zero reason why these women should be hitting me up to go to dinner and fuck for free afterwards (yeah, I still consider that free) but it happens all the time. If you want my guess as to the greatest deficiency in guys on there, it's that they don't know how to talk. You have to listen, ask relevant questions, and give thoughtful responses. Some guys on here call it game, but I just call it not being socially inept. If you do that, I would say that the great majority of the time, the SA girl will fuck you for way, way less than she would a typical guy on there.
I agree completely! After covid hit I settled with one spectacular woman, hot AF, smart AF, and half my age, for a reasonable monthly sum. I'm a 50 yo bald guy with an uninteresting job, but I treat her with respect, I genuinely like her, I take her out, etc. And she lets me fuck her in every way possible and plays no games with me. She's told me stories of breaking things off with men who paid 5 x what I pay because they were assholes.
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5768340]I still don't believe that. I mean, I've done the SA thing for a while and I can tell it's a real struggle out there for them. I've never met a girl on there who wasn't excited / relieved at how nice I was and that I actually had money. They come in with really high hopes and expectations and then get shot down because it just doesn't play out like the TikToks say it will. I would say that at least 90% of the time, if you treat those girls like human beings, they not only don't cost that much but you'll get some really good service and sometimes even get to have them just because you took them to lunch. There's no doubt that a ton of those girls have borderline PTSD from what guys on there have done to them. I've heard stories about how guys promised them some amount of money, then they end up fucking them really rough, spitting on them, verbally degrading them, and then throwing them $40 as they walk out.
I'm not a hot guy. I'm a 5'4" asian with a tiny dick and there's zero reason why these women should be hitting me up to go to dinner and fuck for free afterwards (yeah, I still consider that free) but it happens all the time. If you want my guess as to the greatest deficiency in guys on there, it's that they don't know how to talk. You have to listen, ask relevant questions, and give thoughtful responses. Some guys on here call it game, but I just call it not being socially inept. If you do that, I would say that the great majority of the time, the SA girl will fuck you for way, way less than she would a typical guy on there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5768340]I still don't believe that. I mean, I've done the SA thing for a while and I can tell it's a real struggle out there for them. I've never met a girl on there who wasn't excited / relieved at how nice I was and that I actually had money. They come in with really high hopes and expectations and then get shot down because it just doesn't play out like the TikToks say it will. I would say that at least 90% of the time, if you treat those girls like human beings, they not only don't cost that much but you'll get some really good service and sometimes even get to have them just because you took them to lunch. There's no doubt that a ton of those girls have borderline PTSD from what guys on there have done to them. I've heard stories about how guys promised them some amount of money, then they end up fucking them really rough, spitting on them, verbally degrading them, and then throwing them $40 as they walk out.
I'm not a hot guy. I'm a 5'4" asian with a tiny dick and there's zero reason why these women should be hitting me up to go to dinner and fuck for free afterwards (yeah, I still consider that free) but it happens all the time. If you want my guess as to the greatest deficiency in guys on there, it's that they don't know how to talk. You have to listen, ask relevant questions, and give thoughtful responses. Some guys on here call it game, but I just call it not being socially inept. If you do that, I would say that the great majority of the time, the SA girl will fuck you for way, way less than she would a typical guy on there.[/QUOTE]I actually agree with your experience. I tend to find people that are initially standoffish, but after we meet, things change. I like knowing the person I'm with and having long discussions about things. I don't discuss sex at all unless she brings it up and I've been on numerous M&Gs where we've never discussed sex. If she does bring it up, I tell her that I'm someone that takes their time and I have a high sex drive. I also tell her that if she doesn't enjoy sex or find me attractive then it won't be worth whatever money she asks for. I've lost several for that reason, but I've had 3 or 4 go home with me without payment. This is uncomfortable for me because I feel I should give them something, but they don't ask for anything and I don't want to give them money and offend them.
Currently, I have a 21 YO that I'm going to have to get rid of. She's a sweetheart, we like each other and on all levels. She took the dick like a champ (she's a screamer, but I don't think she was screaming because she enjoyed it), it was obvious she didn't like sex or was not into sex with me (which is fine). I gave her $500, but I don't pay $500 for someone to just lie there. She likes that I take her to expensive restaurants; she likes that I spend money on her; she likes that we can talk for hours, but obviously she does not like fucking me (I've never seen someone run to get their clothes back on so quickly in my life). I feel bad because she's texting me every day wanting to get back together and I'm pretty much done with her (and no, I'm not going to say who, she's a nice girl and I don't want her to be eaten by sharks).
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5768602]I actually agree with your experience. I tend to find people that are initially standoffish, but after we meet, things change. I like knowing the person I'm with and having long discussions about things. I don't discuss sex at all unless she brings it up and I've been on numerous M&Gs where we've never discussed sex. If she does bring it up, I tell her that I'm someone that takes their time and I have a high sex drive. I also tell her that if she doesn't enjoy sex or find me attractive then it won't be worth whatever money she asks for. I've lost several for that reason, but I've had 3 or 4 go home with me without payment. This is uncomfortable for me because I feel I should give them something, but they don't ask for anything and I don't want to give them money and offend them.
Currently, I have a 21 YO that I'm going to have to get rid of. She's a sweetheart, we like each other and on all levels. She took the dick like a champ (she's a screamer, but I don't think she was screaming because she enjoyed it), it was obvious she didn't like sex or was not into sex with me (which is fine). I gave her $500, but I don't pay $500 for someone to just lie there. She likes that I take her to expensive restaurants; she likes that I spend money on her; she likes that we can talk for hours, but obviously she does not like fucking me (I've never seen someone run to get their clothes back on so quickly in my life). I feel bad because she's texting me every day wanting to get back together and I'm pretty much done with her (and no, I'm not going to say who, she's a nice girl and I don't want her to be eaten by sharks).[/QUOTE]If she is on SA the sharks are already circling.
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5768340]I still don't believe that. I mean, I've done the SA thing for a while and I can tell it's a real struggle out there for them. I've never met a girl on there who wasn't excited / relieved at how nice I was and that I actually had money. They come in with really high hopes and expectations and then get shot down because it just doesn't play out like the TikToks say it will. I would say that at least 90% of the time, if you treat those girls like human beings, they not only don't cost that much but you'll get some really good service and sometimes even get to have them just because you took them to lunch. There's no doubt that a ton of those girls have borderline PTSD from what guys on there have done to them. I've heard stories about how guys promised them some amount of money, then they end up fucking them really rough, spitting on them, verbally degrading them, and then throwing them $40 as they walk out.
I'm not a hot guy. I'm a 5'4" asian with a tiny dick and there's zero reason why these women should be hitting me up to go to dinner and fuck for free afterwards (yeah, I still consider that free) but it happens all the time. If you want my guess as to the greatest deficiency in guys on there, it's that they don't know how to talk. You have to listen, ask relevant questions, and give thoughtful responses. Some guys on here call it game, but I just call it not being socially inept. If you do that, I would say that the great majority of the time, the SA girl will fuck you for way, way less than she would a typical guy on there.[/QUOTE]Question, do you drive a nice car have a nice house? The girls see the signs of money and can care less about your looks. The "freebies" are just them trying to win you over,
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Been chatting with this young woman (love them goth girls 😂. Ppm would be between $800 and $1350. Yeeeeeeeeeeahno. Didn't bother to enquire about services.
[QUOTE=Irwin18;5770393][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fddd1620-8eea-4c82-8f62-a3dc571645b5[/URL]
Been chatting with this young woman (love them goth girls 😂. Ppm would be between $800 and $1350. Yeeeeeeeeeeahno. Didn't bother to enquire about services.[/QUOTE]Thanks for heads up. She just messaged me on SB. Looks like these girls think of themselves as hot shot models!.
Desperate to feed a habit. Will want to meet quickly, so be ready to pull the trigger when you message her. 300 - said no anal initially but begged for it when I was rubbing my junk between the cheeks in doggy.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/94d5becd-2b65-49cc-87e4-13c4c94a6630[/URL]
Also wants to meet right away. Either pro or habit feeder, or both.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c1c80707-1214-4b2e-ae90-47fbbc5daba6
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/262ddcef-e38a-4c4d-a188-24af4854a479[/URL]
Looks like Princess Penny is a pro as here is one of her ads:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/washington/seattle/female-escorts/2594923[/URL]
She also mentioned she's on tna as well.
[QUOTE=WillieDave;5772868][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/262ddcef-e38a-4c4d-a188-24af4854a479[/URL]
Looks like Princess Penny is a pro as here is one of her ads:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/washington/seattle/female-escorts/2594923[/URL]
She also mentioned she's on tna as well.[/QUOTE]Phone number links to 88 emilysmith on TNA.