Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Mr Sixty]You are right, and I should have been more specific. I am not saying printouts have been entered into evidence, though they may have. I am saying they have been presented in court.

I have friends who have been involved in trials (or even just sat in court), and also read accounts in local newspapers, where attorneys have brought out sheafs of printouts from various sites.

So, what you say is true, but that doesn't stop some attorneys from pulling out a sheaf of papers and claiming they detail sexual activities in such-and-such club or AMP. As I said, they may get an objection and they may get denied, but I know for a fact that printouts have been presented in court. I was not there, so I do not know whether any of it was entered as evidence, whether any of it was accepted, or whatever. I know also that printouts have been presented at preliminary hearings. Perhaps those also never enter into the trial and are only used to scare the defendants.

I don't know about subpoenas... and I suppose a lot of it depends on how the evidence is being used. There were printouts used in recent cases involving clubs in Pomona and City of Industry. There were printouts used in a case involving a club near downtown L.A. a few years ago. In that case, the printouts were read and entered into evidence not against the defendants (who were two customers and two dancers), but to show a general atmosphere of breaking the law at a particular club, and to demonstrate that touching of dancers was common. Although as I recall that case was dismissed, the printouts were used as evidence. No subpoena necessary.[/QUOTE]

Very nice post, thanks for adding to the conversation!

[QUOTE=SirMister]Ugh.

So read all this good info on it.

What happens I go in and get the ugliest chubby girl around!

Tracy.

Not just ugly. But old.

She tried her hardest to get me going.

I mean she kept doing the tickling

Kept going to the legs

Adjusted so her fake boobs kept hitting my face.

I was just forget it.

When I left I gave her a $5. 00 tip. She is lucky to get that. She was complaining that's it!!! Ha ha.

Eeeesh I have to go somewhere else later today![/QUOTE]
I've never found Tracy to be chubby, but she is the oldest one there. The problem, as I see it, is that she just doesn't get into her work like Nikki or Lisa. I've never minded older providers, but Tracy just isn't sexy.

[QUOTE=DJones]I've never found Tracy to be chubby, but she is the oldest one there. The problem, as I see it, is that she just doesn't get into her work like Nikki or Lisa. I've never minded older providers, but Tracy just isn't sexy.[/QUOTE]I think she tried and tried hard to get my up. I just couldn't do it.

I have to call ahead of time and ask for someone specific!

Well, I got sick of my regular places on Fair, Lake Forest, etc. So I decided to try this new place. Now, let me preface this with one important observation. I've decided that any place that offers a 39.99 an hour massage can't possibly provide HE's. It just can't be possible. I tried this new place advertising on CL, on Tustin and 1st, for 39.99 an hr. I called in advance to see if they had any showers (always a good sign I think). They said yes, so I walked in I was greeted, by what I would describe as a 2. A chubby, just not very good looking provider.
As I was lead to the shower room, I prayed that she wasn't going to be my provider. I did notice a few younger ones waiting, but it just wasn't meant to be. The massage, I'd give it a 4/10. It was just pressure, and not a very good one at that. I was thinking after the first 10 minutes...Why oh why do I do this to myself. To top that off, I felt bad and tipped a .2 even though it really should just be .1 for the hour.

avoid this place.

[QUOTE=Mr Sixty]You are right, and I should have been more specific. I am not saying printouts have been entered into evidence, though they may have. I am saying they have been presented in court.

I have friends who have been involved in trials (or even just sat in court), and also read accounts in local newspapers, where attorneys have brought out sheafs of printouts from various sites.

So, what you say is true, but that doesn't stop some attorneys from pulling out a sheaf of papers and claiming they detail sexual activities in such-and-such club or AMP. As I said, they may get an objection and they may get denied, but I know for a fact that printouts have been presented in court. I was not there, so I do not know whether any of it was entered as evidence, whether any of it was accepted, or whatever. I know also that printouts have been presented at preliminary hearings. Perhaps those also never enter into the trial and are only used to scare the defendants.

I don't know about subpoenas... and I suppose a lot of it depends on how the evidence is being used. There were printouts used in recent cases involving clubs in Pomona and City of Industry. There were printouts used in a case involving a club near downtown L.A. a few years ago. In that case, the printouts were read and entered into evidence not against the defendants (who were two customers and two dancers), but to show a general atmosphere of breaking the law at a particular club, and to demonstrate that touching of dancers was common. Although as I recall that case was dismissed, the printouts were used as evidence. No subpoena necessary.[/QUOTE]

For fear of hijacking this thread, anybody out there care to explain how a stack of printouts from this forum will pass the hearsay test for evidence?

If I was to testify as a witness in court for some hypothetical MP case, I wouldn't be allowed to testify that my brother who is a cop used to be assigned to vice details and told me he's heard that you can get FS for $100 at that MP. That makes for fun conversations at parties but not permissable testimony in court.

I would have to testify that I went to that MP and the woman massaging me told me she would have sexual intercourse with me if I gave her $100.

I don't think a printout of this discussion amounts to Jack Shit in court. How does the jury know who wrote it? Is it somebody in the DA's office writing all of the posts under different screen names? Does anybody know who eachother is?

I fancy myself a discreet guy, so keeping this stuff from being too open is fine with me but I think all of the cryptic cloak-and-dagger stuff is not necessary. If I can figure out that some bloke got "FS for $" means "sexual intercourse in exchange for $100," it won't take very much effort for a detective to decipher it to a jury.

Was in the area so I stopped by my old haunt at Ortega T. I asked who was available and the usual list of fugly old fat women were named. There was one name I didn't recognize, C. Said I would try her for the hour (. 6). Turns out she was Japanese and not fugly at all. Not great mind you, but not fugly. Around 35 or so. Says she just started working there. Showered and met her in the room. Fairly good massage. Let my hands roam over her clothes everywhere but that was it. On the flip she asked what I wanted and I replied, as I usually do, "everything. " Apparently everything to her meant a handy. So while she was working on me in that area she leans over and asks if I would like her to kiss Mr. Happy. Ok says I. At that she started a deep throat suction that had my belly button slapping her nose. Yowza. Didn't take long to explode down her throat and she swallowed every drop. When I opened by eyes again I saw that she had stripped down to bra and panties. She says that next time she will have a "special treat for me. " I have no clue what that is but I'm going back to find out. Anyway, after all that we still had 20 minutes to go on the clock and she gave me a fantastic face masage and foot massage. At the end of the hour she was cleaning me up with a towel before I showered and she notices that Mr. Happy is back to life again. Down she goes without a word and once again I drained down her throat. After I showered I went back to the room and gave her a $80 tip. She counts it and gives me back $20 saying its too much and that when I see her again and she treats me to her "special treat" I can tip her more. She certainly knows her marketing strategies as I am now a loyal customer. All in all a good time.

[QUOTE=Mcfrdd]I fancy myself a discreet guy, so keeping this stuff from being too open is fine with me but I think all of the cryptic cloak-and-dagger stuff is not necessary. If I can figure out that some bloke got "FS for $" means "sexual intercourse in exchange for $100," it won't take very much effort for a detective to decipher it to a jury.[/QUOTE]
The code is merely shorthand. Why do we say "don't" instead of "do not?" It's just easier sometimes. The code is not meant to be discreet per se as anybody can pretty much figure out that the dollar sign equals an exchange of money. The fact of the matter is that the abbreviations are NOT secret code, they are simply a contraction. If you're typing a report from your phone, would you rather type 'Anal reverse cow girl for two hundred?' -or- "ARCG $$?" The defense rests.

[QUOTE=B Malibu]The code is merely shorthand. Why do we say "don't" instead of "do not? " It's just easier sometimes. The code is not meant to be discreet per se as anybody can pretty much figure out that the dollar sign equals an exchange of money. The fact of the matter is that the abbreviations are NOT secret code, they are simply a contraction. If you're typing a report from your phone, would you rather type 'Anal reverse cow girl for two hundred? '. Or- "ARCG $$? " The defense rests.[/QUOTE]Holy shit! Where can I find ARCG? I'll gladly start using abbreviations/codes for that.

[QUOTE=Amp Addict]Was in the area so I stopped by my old haunt at Ortega T. I asked who was available and the usual list of fugly old fat women were named. There was one name I didn't recognize, C. Said I would try her for the hour (. 6). Turns out she was Japanese and not fugly at all. Not great mind you, but not fugly. Around 35 or so. Says she just started working there. Showered and met her in the room. Fairly good massage. Let my hands roam over her clothes everywhere but that was it. On the flip she asked what I wanted and I replied, as I usually do, "everything. " Apparently everything to her meant a handy. So while she was working on me in that area she leans over and asks if I would like her to kiss Mr. Happy. Ok says I. At that she started a deep throat suction that had my belly button slapping her nose. Yowza. Didn't take long to explode down her throat and she swallowed every drop. When I opened by eyes again I saw that she had stripped down to bra and panties. She says that next time she will have a "special treat for me. " I have no clue what that is but I'm going back to find out. Anyway, after all that we still had 20 minutes to go on the clock and she gave me a fantastic face masage and foot massage. At the end of the hour she was cleaning me up with a towel before I showered and she notices that Mr. Happy is back to life again. Down she goes without a word and once again I drained down her throat. After I showered I went back to the room and gave her a $80 tip. She counts it and gives me back $20 saying its too much and that when I see her again and she treats me to her "special treat" I can tip her more. She certainly knows her marketing strategies as I am now a loyal customer. All in all a good time.[/QUOTE]Nice report, was wondering if you could pm me the info to the place and her name. Would be much grateful, thanks!

So yesterday I make an appointment at Classy in CM. When I get there, I follow another monger in and he asks for the same person that I made an appt with. Well she is busy with another customer so he leaves and I also tell her that I made an appt with N. but I would have to wait for 1/2 hour. I can't so I walk out as well. This really upset me that it ruined my whole day.

If they take appt then write them down, I will have second thoughts about going anytime soon.

When business is good they treat us like shit, but when business is bad we are kings, we should be treated like kings all the time.

Asian Lover

[QUOTE=Asian Lover]So yesterday I make an appointment at Classy in CM. When I get there, I follow another monger in and he asks for the same person that I made an appt with. Well she is busy with another customer so he leaves and I also tell her that I made an appt with N. but I would have to wait for 1/2 hour. I can't so I walk out as well. This really upset me that it ruined my whole day.

If they take appt then write them down, I will have second thoughts about going anytime soon.

When business is good they treat us like shit, but when business is bad we are kings, we should be treated like kings all the time.

Asian Lover[/QUOTE]I thought Nikki quit Classy spa ,about 3 wks ago.

With so many choices out there, this is a deal breaker for me as well. I have stopped going to Lampson & Euclid, C squared, and the one on Katella by the 55. I even stopped going to Minh Hoa because Jenny did this to me twice. I gave her another chance because I really enjoyed the girls there:)

The up side is sampling even more places because of intel on this board.

[QUOTE=Asian Lover]So yesterday I make an appointment at Classy in CM. When I get there, I follow another monger in and he asks for the same person that I made an appt with. Well she is busy with another customer so he leaves and I also tell her that I made an appt with N. but I would have to wait for 1/2 hour. I can't so I walk out as well. This really upset me that it ruined my whole day.

If they take appt then write them down, I will have second thoughts about going anytime soon.

When business is good they treat us like shit, but when business is bad we are kings, we should be treated like kings all the time.

Asian Lover[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amp Addict]Was in the area so I stopped by my old haunt at Ortega T. I asked who was available and the usual list of fugly old fat women were named. There was one name I didn't recognize, C. Said I would try her for the hour (. 6). Turns out she was Japanese and not fugly at all. After I showered I went back to the room and gave her a $80 tip. She counts it and gives me back $20 saying its too much and that when I see her again and she treats me to her "special treat" I can tip her more. She certainly knows her marketing strategies as I am now a loyal customer. All in all a good time.[/QUOTE]Nice!! Shes japanese? That would be different for a change. Whats her name? I would love to try this gal and get what you got from her. Let me know who she is? Most girls here are not girls they are ladies. Well Jaqi is still hot and not that old yet. I wouldnt mind getting some lip from a japanese woman that likes doing it. Again let me know I will try her too and let you know what she did for me.

One of my buddies went to Mission Massage not far from there since the older lots chunky girl did the same to me. He was going to try her but he said he saw some thin reddish hair woman there and wanted her instead. Said good massage with a regular finish. He is about 40 so he said this girl was perfect for him, close to his age. Says she gave him an instant hard-on cause he found her sexy.

[QUOTE=Asian Lover]
When business is good they treat us like shit, but when business is bad we are kings, we should be treated like kings all the time.[/QUOTE]

My guess is that these girls get flaked on all the time. So, if a customer comes in and all the other girls are busy, I can see why they'd risk bumping an appointment. Especially if she thinks the walk-in will pay well. Not justifying it by any means, cause I'd be pissed too. I just think flaky mongerers may be partly to blame.

Oh, I guess I'll add a 30 second report while I'm here... Had a 45 min session w/ J**** at Coral the other day. Not much to look at and massage was ho-hum. But gave some good tease and, after the flip, a lot of that light/sensual brushing all over the body and the package (really like that) before the actual HE. While my hands roamed a bit, I kept it to a minimum as the girl didn't do much for me. After the clean up, she continued the massage for a few minutes, which actually felt pretty good... but I think overall she cut it about 5-10 min short. Usual pricing.

[QUOTE=Mcfrdd]For fear of hijacking this thread, anybody out there care to explain how a stack of printouts from this forum will pass the hearsay test for evidence?[/QUOTE]

It wouldn't. But if your attorney didn't object it could be admitted.

I could write that for $10 I took our Sheriff up the ass. Might or might not be true.

But what we write here could be a factor in LE's decision to investigate.