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[QUOTE=MinuteMan757;7330139]For any new guys, things are a lot different now compared to 5 years ago. With the fall of Back Page and CL came a change in the dynamic of providers. There used to be a plethora of providers around and available with decent rates. Perhaps COVid, inflation and other factors changed the hobby in Hampton Roads. Not sure. But it was much safer, cheaper and enjoyable a few years back. Many girls now have no idea how to provide services in a professional manner. It's now a race to rip people off as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]Sadly I only got in the hobby in the last 2 years. But the last 6 months I realized quality over quantity. I rather see 1 person a month that's awesome in a safe hotel than 3 people trying just to pay the rent for the day and than get there fix.
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Quality over Quantity
[QUOTE=Jdvb1;7330299]Sadly I only got in the hobby in the last 2 years. But the last 6 months I realized quality over quantity. I rather see 1 person a month that's awesome in a safe hotel than 3 people trying just to pay the rent for the day and than get there fix.[/QUOTE]I agree with your approach. It's better to spend $350 on a solid GFE encounter with a verified provider than to haggle with 3 different girls in low end hotels that are sketchy and just trying to survive. I recall getting catfished in Newport News at a low end hotel. I arranged for a 30 minute session. Several lurkers around. When the door opened, the place was a wreck and smelled like an ash tray. She was nothing like the pics. I was super rushed. When I asked to suck on her tits, she told me she didn't have time for that shit. I already paid, so trying to get that back was not an option. She forced a condom over my limpness and demanded I hurry up.
Now compare that to Sophia Jameson or Lynn or Ivy Marie who invite you over to their private residence, put you at ease through conversation, non rushed, multiple pops, act like they want you to be there, aren't overly concerned about timing of payment transaction, and clean you up with a warm towel at the end.
I will choose the latter every time. But, I understand that sometimes you have to scratch the itch and you go with what you can find. That's when I have run into trouble in the past.
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The Good Old Days
[QUOTE=MinuteMan757;7330139]For any new guys, things are a lot different now compared to 5 years ago. With the fall of Back Page and CL came a change in the dynamic of providers. There used to be a plethora of providers around and available with decent rates. Perhaps COVid, inflation and other factors changed the hobby in Hampton Roads. Not sure. But it was much safer, cheaper and enjoyable a few years back. Many girls now have no idea how to provide services in a professional manner. It's now a race to rip people off as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]Hunnie / Kassidy. Charming Chasity. Emily. Samantha. Jennifer. Cassie.
Back when men were men and the girls took the job seriously.
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True that
[QUOTE=MinuteMan757;7330139]For any new guys, things are a lot different now compared to 5 years ago. With the fall of Back Page and CL came a change in the dynamic of providers. There used to be a plethora of providers around and available with decent rates. Perhaps COVid, inflation and other factors changed the hobby in Hampton Roads. Not sure. But it was much safer, cheaper and enjoyable a few years back. Many girls now have no idea how to provide services in a professional manner. It's now a race to rip people off as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]When I got involved, in a decade known as the 90's, there wasn't much in the area. You had the escort agencies in the yellow pages (remember them? And you might be able to find a dancer at Lapper's or the Fabulous Frontier to give a private party. The street scene was pretty good but seemed a little more dangerous than it ended up being. There were a few internet sites like the defunct HeavenorHell and EscortAmerica as well as newsgroups like alt. Sex. Prostitution.
Then a girl started Avenue-X in the early 2000's and things were great. There were plenty of girls who were pretty, classy, and the rates were reasonable. Most were in the $$1/2 hr range. Cheaper dates were unheard of. Almost all were GFE with BBBJ, sometimes tc, MSOG, some Greek sometimes, clean places and bodies, just great. The site was a forum with real interaction between the guys and girls. One of the girls had beef with the owner of the site and started SynfulPleasures so there was some rivalry but nothing spilled over. There was a standard.
Guys here talk about the heyday of BP and CL, but these sites marked the beginning of the downfall of this hobby. These sites made it a lot easier for more girls to start providing, in an increasing percentage of them, to support a habit. The competition caused the prices to drop making the girls not feel like providing a quality time, then the girls started offering shorter time frames. Now that those sites are gone and STG seems to be the most accessible platform, the damage is done. The girls know there really isn't anywhere else to shop so service went into a nose dive. Those who will provide a classier time, or are prettier than usual, seem to be overly proud of their service based on their rates. Now you might find a girl who does X, Y, or Z, but she prolly won't be anything close to top tier. You are nearly as likely to be ripped off, meet one of the walking dead, given the runaround or ghosted, or maybe just straight-up robbed as finding someone you would actually want to spend time with.
This used to be a hobby about decent almost dates with pleasant girls or maybe finding a reasonable luxury companion. Now it's almost about masturbating in a girls mouth, vagine, or (hopefully) tight butthole. We have lost so much.
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[QUOTE=LuvNHookers;7331709]When I got involved, in a decade known as the 90's, there wasn't much in the area. You had the escort agencies in the yellow pages (remember them? And you might be able to find a dancer at Lapper's or the Fabulous Frontier to give a private party. The street scene was pretty good but seemed a little more dangerous than it ended up being. There were a few internet sites like the defunct HeavenorHell and EscortAmerica as well as newsgroups like alt. Sex. Prostitution.
Then a girl started Avenue-X in the early 2000's and things were great. There were plenty of girls who were pretty, classy, and the rates were reasonable. Most were in the $$1/2 hr range. Cheaper dates were unheard of. Almost all were GFE with BBBJ, sometimes tc, MSOG, some Greek sometimes, clean places and bodies, just great. The site was a forum with real interaction between the guys and girls. One of the girls had beef with the owner of the site and started SynfulPleasures so there was some rivalry but nothing spilled over. There was a standard.
Guys here talk about the heyday of BP and CL, but these sites marked the beginning of the downfall of this hobby. These sites made it a lot easier for more girls to start providing, in an increasing percentage of them, to support a habit. The competition caused the prices to drop making the girls not feel like providing a quality time, then the girls started offering shorter time frames. Now that those sites are gone and STG seems to be the most accessible platform, the damage is done. The girls know there really isn't anywhere else to shop so service went into a nose dive. Those who will provide a classier time, or are prettier than usual, seem to be overly proud of their service based on their rates. Now you might find a girl who does X, Y, or Z, but she prolly won't be anything close to top tier. You are nearly as likely to be ripped off, meet one of the walking dead, given the runaround or ghosted, or maybe just straight-up robbed as finding someone you would actually want to spend time with.
This used to be a hobby about decent almost dates with pleasant girls or maybe finding a reasonable luxury companion. Now it's almost about masturbating in a girls mouth, vagine, or (hopefully) tight butthole. We have lost so much.[/QUOTE]This isn't what it used to be. I started around 2002, and I miss those days. Plenty of options to choose from back then, and none of the scams or runarounds that we see today. I'm not fond of STG, or this new generation of providers out here. All they do is play games, scam, rob, and ghost every appointment. Sad what this hobby has become.
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Perspective
Thanks for sharing. Good perspective. I agree with your logic.
[QUOTE=LuvNHookers;7331709]When I got involved, in a decade known as the 90's, there wasn't much in the area. You had the escort agencies in the yellow pages (remember them? And you might be able to find a dancer at Lapper's or the Fabulous Frontier to give a private party. The street scene was pretty good but seemed a little more dangerous than it ended up being. There were a few internet sites like the defunct HeavenorHell and EscortAmerica as well as newsgroups like alt. Sex. Prostitution.
Then a girl started Avenue-X in the early 2000's and things were great. There were plenty of girls who were pretty, classy, and the rates were reasonable. Most were in the $$1/2 hr range. Cheaper dates were unheard of. Almost all were GFE with BBBJ, sometimes tc, MSOG, some Greek sometimes, clean places and bodies, just great. The site was a forum with real interaction between the guys and girls. One of the girls had beef with the owner of the site and started SynfulPleasures so there was some rivalry but nothing spilled over. There was a standard.
Guys here talk about the heyday of BP and CL, but these sites marked the beginning of the downfall of this hobby. These sites made it a lot easier for more girls to start providing, in an increasing percentage of them, to support a habit. The competition caused the prices to drop making the girls not feel like providing a quality time, then the girls started offering shorter time frames. Now that those sites are gone and STG seems to be the most accessible platform, the damage is done. The girls know there really isn't anywhere else to shop so service went into a nose dive. Those who will provide a classier time, or are prettier than usual, seem to be overly proud of their service based on their rates. Now you might find a girl who does X, Y, or Z, but she prolly won't be anything close to top tier. You are nearly as likely to be ripped off, meet one of the walking dead, given the runaround or ghosted, or maybe just straight-up robbed as finding someone you would actually want to spend time with.
This used to be a hobby about decent almost dates with pleasant girls or maybe finding a reasonable luxury companion. Now it's almost about masturbating in a girls mouth, vagine, or (hopefully) tight butthole. We have lost so much.[/QUOTE]
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Head Master
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/virginia-beach/female-escorts/caucasian_w/your-best-kept-secret-no-depos/657979448249[/URL]
This one quotes $600 per hour. No website, no reviews available. BBBJ is an upsell. This post is indicative of the hobby right now in the area. Anyone have any information on the "HeadMaster"?
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Lexi??
Anyone have any info on.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/virginia-beach/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-super-sexy-lexi--dirty-blonde/997079238715[/URL]
Seems a bit "overqualified" for STG and she's asking for a deposit.
Some red flags but her Insta and OF presence is fairly evolved for a deposit queen.
Thanks for any info.
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Lexi
[QUOTE=SubToDomme;7335291]Anyone have any info on.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/virginia-beach/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-super-sexy-lexi--dirty-blonde/997079238715[/URL]
Seems a bit "overqualified" for STG and she's asking for a deposit.
Some red flags but her Insta and OF presence is fairly evolved for a deposit queen.
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]She's been around for about a decade. She was fun back in the day, seems she's more domme now.
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$1,500 per hour! You go right ahead.
[QUOTE=SubToDomme;7335291]Anyone have any info on.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/virginia-beach/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-super-sexy-lexi--dirty-blonde/997079238715[/URL]
Seems a bit "overqualified" for STG and she's asking for a deposit.
Some red flags but her Insta and OF presence is fairly evolved for a deposit queen.
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]
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Lexi Website
I doubt anyone on here has seen her in years. I took a minute to read her website. For a full 24 hour date it will run you $12 k. But, she requires 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep and self-time on overnights. So I guess your paying to tell your friends "Lexi stayed at my house last night for $12 k! But we slept in separate rooms. . ".
I bet there are guys out there that pay, otherwise she wouldn't do it. That sort of money is a drop in the bucket for many guys in Hampton Roads and major cities like NY and LA.
[QUOTE=SubToDomme;7335291]Anyone have any info on.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/virginia-beach/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-super-sexy-lexi--dirty-blonde/997079238715[/URL]
Seems a bit "overqualified" for STG and she's asking for a deposit.
Some red flags but her Insta and OF presence is fairly evolved for a deposit queen.
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]
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My 2 cents on Sexy Lexi
[QUOTE=SubToDomme;7335291]Anyone have any info on.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/virginia-beach/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-super-sexy-lexi--dirty-blonde/997079238715[/URL]
Seems a bit "overqualified" for STG and she's asking for a deposit.
Some red flags but her Insta and OF presence is fairly evolved for a deposit queen.
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]Where do I even start lmfao. There can't be guys this desperate out there falling for this AI generated crap. I saw her like 3 or 4 times circa 2012-2014 when she was 150 or so for a QV. Banging ass body, pretty face, nice man made tits, ass and hips etc. , with the only minus being some slight baby damage in her stomach area, then she disappeared. She was super business like, non-GFE, little small talk just pretty much CBJ, assume doggie, bust, clean up and go. I posted on her about her being back some months ago but not at the rate she is posting now. My guess is either she was somebody's sugar baby for awhile (and he got tired and moved on) or she got ahold of and smoked a whole bowl of bat-shit because 1. 5 k per hour is bat-shit crazy! I mean she was decent for the area 10+ years ago, but to increase your rates 10 X is the ultimate GPS. Also, she looked good back then, but I would say that all her pics, from her website to IG are AI generated and she's at least my age (mid 40's).
Here's some pics from Adultsearch a few years ago, you can see her face looks weathered: [URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/virginia/virginia-beach/female-escorts/2848569[/URL].
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Looking for comparable
Hey guys, anyone have any suggestions on comparable to Sophia Jameson (can't find her contact) or Lynn, who is great BTW just not always in town.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=DaVinciB1;7336053]Where do I even start lmfao. There can't be guys this desperate out there falling for this AI generated crap. I saw her like 3 or 4 times circa 2012-2014 when she was 150 or so for a QV. Banging ass body, pretty face, nice man made tits, ass and hips etc. , with the only minus being some slight baby damage in her stomach area, then she disappeared. She was super business like, non-GFE, little small talk just pretty much CBJ, assume doggie, bust, clean up and go. I posted on her about her being back some months ago but not at the rate she is posting now. My guess is either she was somebody's sugar baby for awhile (and he got tired and moved on) or she got ahold of and smoked a whole bowl of bat-shit because 1. 5 k per hour is bat-shit crazy! I mean she was decent for the area 10+ years ago, but to increase your rates 10 X is the ultimate GPS. Also, she looked good back then, but I would say that all her pics, from her website to IG are AI generated and she's at least my age (mid 40's).
Here's some pics from Adultsearch a few years ago, you can see her face looks weathered: [URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/virginia/virginia-beach/female-escorts/2848569[/URL].[/QUOTE]Exactly what I was about to say. I noticed the AI photos immediately. Definitely a no go for me and then her rates confirm it.
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Deposit Queen
[QUOTE=FatherGlucose;7336440]Exactly what I was about to say. I noticed the AI photos immediately. Definitely a no go for me and then her rates confirm it.[/QUOTE]I assume she's making it on deposits.