Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=RickJamesB;6862981]This is all my opinion:

After mongering since 2002, I think the Kim Club model has ruined the strip club experience for me.[/QUOTE]In combination with the CA employment rule change years ago making the girls employees, Kim models the payout so that tips are everything, however you can get them. The first room of the day is basically free since it meets the quota (it replaces the minimum employee pay they'd get and works out to be almost even, so really, the girl is doing your room for free if you are their first customer). Then the club takes their cut plus tips and costs. On a slow day a girl get back 1/4 what she earned the club. But she keeps all of every tip. And fucking is the easiest, most reliable way to get tips from the vast majority of customers. The cycle works its magic until almost every girl does this, and almost every customer expects it. It's actually one of the reasons I don't go to Synn much, because most of the time I just want a lap dance and to chat. But if I want to fuck, then yeah sure I go to Synn.

The payout system is why some girls are reluctant to even give you a room if they don't know you and the night just started. They'll negotiate on the floor first to make sure it's even worth going back. Kind of a mood killer compared to SR where the average girl is at least enthusiastic if nothing else.

That said, I know my type of girl and if we have a good connection of the floor, I've always had a great experience in the back. It's when you don't recognize a girl you know is good and are lowering your standards that the haggling and gamble happens. That's fine too, I don't go much anymore so it's fun in its own way to hunt for new girls as long as I am not dead set on getting anything. If I don't get the right feel on the floor with someone, I politely move on. If I have to, I switch clubs between SR and Synn.

Even though it's not common, there are still girls at Synn like Diamond who are chill, I never got GPS from her but a fun time at a reasonable tip. Meanwhile some of my old favorites have moved out of COI so I'm tempted to go DTLA instead just to see them. But COI is the main draw for meeting new girls.

My best experiences meeting new girls have always been when I just window shop and am prepared to leave if nothing good is there. I don't mind coming back months later, I've done this for years so I'm happy doing it this way. I have plenty of alternatives with kgirls for FS which is way easier. I spent 90% of my money on kgirls last year. But it's less variety and thrill, so I'll be in COI once again for the nostalgia of girl hunting. I mostly love em all, Asians, white girls, latinas, even half black girls if they're like Diamond. As some long timers on this forum have said, the advantage of clubs over kgirl agencies is you can pick the girl face to face, and pick a young hot girl exactly to your specs.

I get older and uglier by the year while they stay just as young and beautiful. A real Beauty and the Beast scenario thanks to the power of a few pieces of paper in my pocket.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6848696]If you search far back you'll see that when she's in the mood she'll give you free extras even during the 2 for 2. Hj and bj, I guess she remembered me cuz she did this without me even asking.

But it's been a year so maybe she's changed. It happens. She used to be a porn star. My first time seeing her was crazy, I think she was super high. Hope she's better now.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Do you know her porn name by chance?

Last 15 min I did with her she pulled my pants down gave HJ without asking for tip. But time ran out before finishing. She didn't intend for me to finish. She just said teasing.

[QUOTE=Loki609;6863762]Thanks. Do you know her porn name by chance?

Last 15 min I did with her she pulled my pants down gave HJ without asking for tip. But time ran out before finishing. She didn't intend for me to finish. She just said teasing.[/QUOTE]Holly Price (google holly price porn). I spent some time watching the videos and it is her. She does her makeup different for the club and looks better now. She's been around a while and it's not a secret but show some decency and don't mention it to her face.

Yes, you can see my review last year where I mentioned she is the only girl I've had in SR that gives free extras. Same experience for you, and this was in a 2 for 2! However I have had her twice and the first time was hot but no HJ, however it was enough to get me to take her to VIP. She crashed into the wall as she walked with me to VIP because she was so high. I have really mixed feelings about her but I guess I'd be happy to see her again, since I think she doesn't remember me! Or at least, there was a moment after giving me a HJ that we got better lighting and I think she did.

Not surprised to hear Cora's prices or that you have to multi-visit her to get extras. I like her but it just sounds like so much work. I could bang two slightly less hot girls and still have money left over at that rate, including BBBJ and shower together at a kgirl agency. But then again the whole reason I still go COI occasionally is for the thrill of picking exactly the girl I want and getting her to obey.

It is a bit of an uphill battle for me because Cora clearly did not like me at first, she actually gave me dirty looks when she was on stage but was all smiles for everyone else. Though she warmed up after I took her VIP. I couldn't make sense of it until someone mentioned she doesn't like guys who get dances from multiple girls. And that is exactly me!

Cora did see me get dances from Melanie and Stormy back in the day (both at other clubs now), and hanging out with them through the night. And she knows these girls fuck, especially Melanie who casually told me I could fuck her 20 minutes straight next visit. I will always remember how at 1 am on Thursday night both Cora and Stormy walked right out of a VIP butt naked at the same time, not giving a fuck. So she saw me red handed. This was after a long multi-session fucking with Stormy, so I can only imagine the same for Cora. Nobody cares at 1 am. Despite what you may expect, I was shocked as a noob seeing this at a club, but I guess I'm used to it now. Now I just pretend it's normal.

Looking back I guess if you want to keep your outfit clean, it makes more sense to do this if it's an option. Stormy and a lot of girls were very careful about hygene. I get it. I remember Trixie and a few others always asked me to wash my hands before VIP, even wiped down the VIP room before starting. She made me promise some other things for those who know. I haven't been in a while but plan on going back and seeing who's still there, maybe meet a new face.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6863852]
Not surprised to hear Cora's prices or that you have to multi-visit her to get extras. I like her but it just sounds like so much work. I could bang two slightly less hot girls and still have money left over at that rate, including BBBJ and shower together at a kgirl agency. But then again the whole reason I still go COI occasionally is for the thrill of picking exactly the girl I want and getting her to obey.

It is a bit of an uphill battle for me because Cora clearly did not like me at first, she actually gave me dirty looks when she was on stage but was all smiles for everyone else. Though she warmed up after I took her VIP. I couldn't make sense of it until someone mentioned she doesn't like guys who get dances from multiple girls. And that is exactly me!
[/QUOTE]That fits with my limited experiences with Cora. From things she's said to me, she seems to be a dancer who is somewhat picky about who she approaches and asks to get dances. She's definitely not the extroverted, seemingly nympho type like Melanie who is happy to meet a guy and be sucking his dick five minutes later. Cora has given me some good lap dances but she's not enough of my type to put in a lot of effort to score with her (especially at high rates). Besides, when I go to strip clubs I want to be a man-***** and at least lap a bunch of different women.

The Synn I G suggests that the dancer Syx used to be a waitress, though I don't recognize her from the pic (her face is hidden). I was wondering what are peoples' experiences with waitresses turned dancer. A woman who makes that move obviously does it because she sees how much more the dancers make. Given that are they likely to go full extras from the get go? The only time I can remember dancing with a former waitress was at Synn right before the pandemic. This little spinner gave a a really intense lap dance and strongly hinted that everything was on the table but then disappeared so I never got to take her for a spin.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6863981]The Synn I G suggests that the dancer Syx used to be a waitress, though I don't recognize her from the pic (her face is hidden). I was wondering what are peoples' experiences with waitresses turned dancer. A woman who makes that move obviously does it because she sees how much more the dancers make. Given that are they likely to go full extras from the get go? The only time I can remember dancing with a former waitress was at Synn right before the pandemic. This little spinner gave a a really intense lap dance and strongly hinted that everything was on the table but then disappeared so I never got to take her for a spin.[/QUOTE]Anything's possible, a waitress turned stripper is just a stripper. But then you know she's new, and newer girls are still learning the basics. I will say that while most new strippers give bad lap dances, those who offer it at least can fuck! There's a lot less to learn I guess.

But it is a gamble. Personally if I like a girl enough and make a good connection I'm going to have a good time anyways. I had a good time with girls that have high rates by just getting dances with them, then playing with the girls with low rates for the rest. And that's why I get dances from multiple girls always.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6863981]The Synn I G suggests that the dancer Syx used to be a waitress, though I don't recognize her from the pic (her face is hidden). I was wondering what are peoples' experiences with waitresses turned dancer. A woman who makes that move obviously does it because she sees how much more the dancers make. Given that are they likely to go full extras from the get go? The only time I can remember dancing with a former waitress was at Synn right before the pandemic. This little spinner gave a a really intense lap dance and strongly hinted that everything was on the table but then disappeared so I never got to take her for a spin.[/QUOTE]I think it's the newish black girl they hired maybe 4 months back. Nice girl. Although I wish it was the tan Latina waitress with the cute smile.

I wouldn't extrapolate too much from the switch in occupations; as Mr. Wally states she's just another stripper now. Most do extras, some don't. Some are good, some are bad, ultimately you got to find out for yourself.

I wonder if some of you remember but the small blonde Synn manager used to strip at the Rhino years ago. Elizabeth I think?

Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.

For example say you get there maybe the girl is in the back for say 20 min, comes out to meet a whale. They can chat for while sometimes they buy them a drink so 30 min goes by, then he decides to get a special lap dance 3 songs and then after decides to go VIP and then sometimes, especially on Thursdays there is a wait for VIP so them waiting in line until next 15 min VIP session is ready. And after, the girl has to freshen up because obviously you don't want to go with a girl that is sweaty and icky from the VIP customer. So she goes in the back for say another 20 min. And then you finally say now is your chance. But then say there is another whale waiting for her, or say now she has to go and do a stage dance.

Also I feel like doing club roll calls is huge, not sure why management doesn't do them as often sometimes, as guys are able to see everyone available and gets the girls from the back out. There can be 10-15 guys just sitting around, obviously they are looking for some girl or trying to get a dance of some sort because that's the reason they are there.

Sorry if lengthy, (just felt like over past few months have wasted too much time waiting to get a dance from a girl that you might want to try and think are hot) it just feels like maybe before going to a club you need to have various options available and not set your eyes on getting a dance with just one girl because you can waste a lot of time just waiting. But to be honest these clubs only have say 10% of the dancers on a given shift are attractive in the sense willing to get a dance with them, tbh in my opinion at least 50% of the dancers on any given night probably hard pass.

Any of you guys have any tips for getting girls, like do you just straight up wait at the exit of the dancer room and pick them up,(sometimes they have scheduled appts with whales) what if they are sitting in the VIP / high roller couches on side (Synn) will you walk up to them and ask for a dance. (Sometimes hard to know if girl is waiting for someone or willing to just do lap dances during a given night).

Just not sure how some of why'all whales / deep pocket guys spend like 20-30 min talking to a dancer. Like come on and spread the love a bit.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;6865385]Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.[/QUOTE]This is just my advice from 20 years experience, I will tell a story for each point.

COI clubs are not for talking, but SR is the best for that if you are dead set on it. You also have to avoid the busiest days and hours. My first time ever to SR in COI was on a Monday, and only 3 girls were working. I was the ONLY customer. The girls were just fooling around, climbing the poles and going upside down for practice. They didn't even notice I was there sitting in the front couch. It did not even seem like a strip club since there was no music, just 3 girls practicing. Between the three girls I decided who I liked and when I saw she was near the edge of the stage I walked up and said if she had time I'd like to meet her. We hit it off right away, and we had nonstop fun fucking in VIP for 40 minutes (I extended) and then chatting on the floor for an hour. This is not the typical experience but the point is do not be afraid to approach the girl you like because someone else will grab her. Her own regular came in later so it would have happened. But some nobody like me had her for almost 2 hours. Who cares if her regular is looking for her, she is a grown woman and you just can ASK her. Yes is great. No is also great because you saved yourself a whole lot of time and wondering. Don't wonder.

If you are sure about a girl, just talk to her. Otherwise she might never know you exist because she most girls don't talk to a lot of guys, they'll talk to 3 guys, including guys they recognize, and go back. One time I got a $100 VIP at SR with a new girl, and said I'll take a break but might get a room with her later. She goes on stage, and there is a customer who puts $3 on the stage and when she approaches she just puts his hand on her and whispers something to her. It was creepy already but what he said to her, she was disgusted and waved her hands saying no way. Okay, that's odd. After stage she actually approaches him again asking if he wants a dance, and apparently he said he won't take her unless she is going to fuck. She walks off looking upset and goes straight for the back room, so I get up and quickly catch her right before and ask her for a dance. We continued our fun there and could take it to the next level. She was Savannah. She only approached one customer and it wasn't even me, because she needed a break after getting rejected. Lots of girls do. The lesson is do not count on a girl approaching you. Even girls I have spent thousands on before will not necessarily approach me if I just show up, lots of reasons. I am just a customer.

I know they must exist but I have never seen a whale in 20 visits. I do see a ton of people being super cheap instead, especially at Synn. It is quite the opposite in COI. Whales are more a thing in LA.

Next, I would recommend against locking onto a girl on roll call or fixate on a girl you see but haven't yet talked to. This puts you in a weaker position to have a happy ending. And there is an important rule that you need to talk to a girl and feel her out on the floor, that she gives you good vibes on the floor, before ever taking her back. Or it's a recipe for probably a mediocre experience. I've written pages and pages about this and won't elaborate other than you need to be ready to move on if you talk to a girl and feel red flags or can't agree on what you want. Not to mention it is hard to negotiate with a girl unless you are ready to walk. Candy gives free extras even in the 2 for 2, but she will quote 600 or more for whoever she thinks can pay. That difference comes down to your negotiating position and mindset. If you can just let go of any obsessions, you will not be that guy to them. You should be there to have fun, but not at any cost. There's literally another club in walking distance.

Lastly, you get your turn when you decide it. Don't wait around for me to take your girl. I am not a whale. I am a nobody who just parked my car and saw your girl and talked to her. And if I don't like her after talking with her and seeing her attitude, you can have her. But don't make up your mind until you have actually met her. Stage is meant to preview girls and get a free and close look. Synn is so silly because I am the only guy consistently watching and tipping stage, but then I can pick the girl I like after. That's how I met Diamond. She went right up to me after because after, and all I did watch her with my face between her legs tossing some ones, and I was the only guy doing that. I didn't have to say a word.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;6865385]Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.[/QUOTE]I try to keep 2-3 other girls in mind. I know it can be exciting to watch a girl on rollcall and maybe come across their socials, which then leads to fantasy mindset "Dammm yeah I want her". (for me its the young petite girls with minimal to no tattoos). A few times I made it to the parking lot and look at the roll call and think "damn no one here I want" LOL. But yeah I try to have a backup in mind.

Regarding the one you want, I had times were I felt I wasnt standing in the right spot and see them walk the opposite way and get scooped up by someone else and by the time you see them available, the night is over. It happens. I'll try to toss a few bucks on stage when I see them which helps when they walk the floor.

But I feel you, I live an hour away so I have to plan it out if I head out. If I don't get any of the ones I want, I'd rather have just stayed home and rubbed one out. No good clubs in the IE.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;6865385]Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.

For example say you get there maybe the girl is in the back for say 20 min, comes out to meet a whale. They can chat for while sometimes they buy them a drink so 30 min goes by, then he decides to get a special lap dance 3 songs and then after decides to go VIP and then sometimes, especially on Thursdays there is a wait for VIP so them waiting in line until next 15 min VIP session is ready. And after, the girl has to freshen up because obviously you don't want to go with a girl that is sweaty and icky from the VIP customer. So she goes in the back for say another 20 min. And then you finally say now is your chance. But then say there is another whale waiting for her, or say now she has to go and do a stage dance.

Also I feel like doing club roll calls is huge, not sure why management doesn't do them as often sometimes, as guys are able to see everyone available and gets the girls from the back out. There can be 10-15 guys just sitting around, obviously they are looking for some girl or trying to get a dance of some sort because that's the reason they are there.[/QUOTE]When I go, I check the roll call and see how many I'm interested in. If there's at least 5, I'll head to the club. If the girl I like the most of the handful I like isn't on the floor, I usually ask the waitress if she's available. I throw a couple dollars so they usually go to the locker room and check. I also ask the the ones who log the dances if she's available. If she's busy, I go to the next. During this time, I get lucky from time to time and one of the girls come on stage. Tipping on stage doesn't have to be what it looks like on tv. If a few guys put a dollar or two on stage, I'll throw 20. If a guy comes back and tips more (they usually don't), I'll sit back down and wait to see if my next pick comes up. You never know, that girl might circle back because the other tipper just wanted a lapdance or wasted her time. When a girl sits down and I'm not interested, I politely decline. If it's one of the few I like, I get straight to the point. If her price is reasonable, we head to the back. If not, I'm prepared to leave. I haven't had a visit where all of the girls I wanted were busy or quoting crazy rates. You have to have a plan and strategize. A girl at your club of choice is popular for a reason.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;6865385]Not sure how many of why'all look at roll call before going in and how many girls you decide are hot enough or not before entering. But it sucks when you have your eyes on a girl and then the girls always seem to be busy and you end up wasting too much time waiting around.

For example say you get there maybe the girl is in the back for say 20 min, comes out to meet a whale. They can chat for while sometimes they buy them a drink so 30 min goes by, then he decides to get a special lap dance 3 songs and then after decides to go VIP and then sometimes, especially on Thursdays there is a wait for VIP so them waiting in line until next 15 min VIP session is ready. And after, the girl has to freshen up because obviously you don't want to go with a girl that is sweaty and icky from the VIP customer. So she goes in the back for say another 20 min. And then you finally say now is your chance. But then say there is another whale waiting for her, or say now she has to go and do a stage dance.

Also I feel like doing club roll calls is huge, not sure why management doesn't do them as often sometimes, as guys are able to see everyone available and gets the girls from the back out. There can be 10-15 guys just sitting around, obviously they are looking for some girl or trying to get a dance of some sort because that's the reason they are there.

Sorry if lengthy, (just felt like over past few months have wasted too much time waiting to get a dance from a girl that you might want to try and think are hot) it just feels like maybe before going to a club you need to have various options available and not set your eyes on getting a dance with just one girl because you can waste a lot of time just waiting. But to be honest these clubs only have say 10% of the dancers on a given shift are attractive in the sense willing to get a dance with them, tbh in my opinion at least 50% of the dancers on any given night probably hard pass.

Any of you guys have any tips for getting girls, like do you just straight up wait at the exit of the dancer room and pick them up,(sometimes they have scheduled appts with whales) what if they are sitting in the VIP / high roller couches on side (Synn) will you walk up to them and ask for a dance. (Sometimes hard to know if girl is waiting for someone or willing to just do lap dances during a given night).

Just not sure how some of why'all whales / deep pocket guys spend like 20-30 min talking to a dancer. Like come on and spread the love a bit.[/QUOTE]Sitting at the tip rail helps. Give her a generous tip on stage. However, I have done that and the girl ignores me when she goes for her rounds. I find out that she's having a bad week and getting rejected so much that after their stage dance, if they ask one or two people for a dance they're already discouraged, and quit asking before they get to me unless I mentioned something during their stage dance about talking afterwards.

If you're shy, you can tip her on stage to get her attention, and maybe ask a waitress to bring her to you. Sometimes you have to be proactive. I know it's nice when girls come up to you, but it seems like girls at Synn are easily discouraged by a one or two rejections.

To add to this discussion. I never sit around and wait. If there's a girl I want, I buy my drink right when I walk in an I tell the waitress to grab the girl I want. I usually give the waiters 10-20 bucks to grab the girl I want.

Then when the girl arrives I ask for a lap dance immediately. An while the dance is going I discuss extras in the VIP. I don't like sitting down talking to a girl, a lot of these girls come from rough backgrounds I don't want to pick their brain in the slightest. Plus they'll lie aloe of the times when your just talking. The less I know about them the better. In my mind it's all business and I waste no time. If the dance is good and seems relaxed I'll take her to VIP. If it's an air dance or doesn't allow touching or says this is extra etc. I cut the dance short an repeat the process.

Also if you're looking for a new girl I wouldn't go on a Thursday night or any weekend night. Day shifts a week nights are the time to approach new girls. Once you become a regular an get their number then you can set something up on a busy night.

Just my opinion.

Also anyone know or see Kassy on the roll call at Synn COI. She was my favorite a she usually leaves every months a returns. This time she seems gone for good. Anyone know if she's at a different club?

[QUOTE=CocaCvs;6865903]Sitting at the tip rail helps. Give her a generous tip on stage. However, I have done that and the girl ignores me when she goes for her rounds. I find out that she's having a bad week and getting rejected so much that after their stage dance, if they ask one or two people for a dance they're already discouraged, and quit asking before they get to me unless I mentioned something during their stage dance about talking afterwards.[/QUOTE]Every club is different but at SR and Synn COI if you sit a the tip rail she will probably say hi and I would mention then to stop by if she has time. Sometimes she has already promised someone a dance so that is the best way. The other reason is some dancers just aren't into me and I'd rather they skip me if that's going to be the case. I'm Asian and it's rarely a problem but I'd rather nip it in the bud if she just doesn't want to do a dance for me, no harm no foul. Most girls will stop by and then you know they're 100% available and willing, which checks off the first box. Then you find out if you and her are going to get along if you take her back. Don't take her back if she doesn't feel right.

If you go on a busy night like Thursday, sometimes Friday or Saturday (but often not), other people will be tipping at the rail. On Thursdays it can get crazy because guys will tip when they see other guys tip. But this is COI and unlike every other area in Socal there are more nights when nobody is tipping on stage for a long time, or just tipping for exactly one girl they like then leaving the tip rail. Especially Synn. So it is not hard at all to communicate that you are interested. I tip a middle amount like $10 if I want her to come over, not too much or little. I only tip $20 and over for stage if I DON'T want her to go VIP (ex. If I already took her to VIP and just want to show appreciation afterwards), because that is not going to help me in negotiations.

I've gone clubs a lot over 20 years and it simply does not matter who tips more, if all you do is tell a girl you want to see her. If the other guy doesn't, she's yours. It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics he's doing or where he's standing or how he looks at her, he isn't going to see her for a whole hour as I take her back and give her a good thorough fucking.

90% of the time I see a guy making it rain, $40 to $100, he does not take her back. He doesn't want to. He is there to show appreciation. Same with me, I only tip extra for stage after I've fucked a girl because then it can't backfire with GPS. It is true appreciation. In all the times I've seen it and also asked the girl to give me a dance, exactly zero times has she said no the guy who made it rain is getting a dance with her. Zero. In 20 years. When some guy has already asked her for a dance before I did, it is often a guy that didn't throw even one dollar but still had the balls to sit at the rail. Or a few dollars, most of the rest of the time.

Getting a girl's attention to come to you before you even talk is an important thing if you're just not sure about which girl you want or really want to feel out multiple girls, but at COI once you have an idea you should cut to the chase and talk to her yourself. Always be prepared to walk and move on to the next girl if she isn't going to show you a good time or for the right price. That's all there is to it. At other clubs outside COI when I want to just talk to girls then sure, I need them to approach me first so eye contact and such matters. But COI is mainly for fucking not talking. And again, a few words when she is on stage means everything (at the end when she meets each person, or some girls just go up to you and say hi during stage). It works way better than the alternatives. I understand wanting to be elusive and non-committal for negotiations but you can do that by asking her to stop by and saying you wanted to meet her and find out if you should take her back.