[QUOTE=Domino727;5254101]That's easy.
Your COCK.
One day that little head will slip up and do most of the thinking
It's inevitable.[/QUOTE]This is the way.
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[QUOTE=Domino727;5254101]That's easy.
Your COCK.
One day that little head will slip up and do most of the thinking
It's inevitable.[/QUOTE]This is the way.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5254339]If that google number is attached to your real identity in any way, an attorney (or LE) could subpoena google for your info. Assuming all the precautions you say you're taking are, in fact, faithful at all times, that would be the biggest chink in your opsec. Again, they'd need a reason to get it done, like a complaint or paternity suit.
Then there's the whole, have someone besides her get your license plate. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Easy solution, get your tubes tied boys. .
[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5254326]First, if you are ever in the shower washing all of her numerous orgasms off you, she checked your wallet and has your DL.
Second, how does she not see your car? You must be parking far away and in the nile delta.
Third, you have a profile that would identify you.
Fourth, she has your photograph, she must know where you are coming from, and she may have a boyfriend, er, I mean pimp, who followed you after you left.
Fifth, I assume when she gets the room, it is on her credit card for incidentals so it is truly only you doing the cash. I assume you never card any of the expenses, of course, except for your monthly charge for seeking non pros who fuck guys for money.
Any girls on SA who charges 2-3 times the going rate is not stupid. She is just not part of the code of silence of pros, because she is a, wait for it, non pro.[/QUOTE]I guess I am just a lot more careful than you would be. Wallet? In the FC? Never. No jewelry, nothing. Car key, cash for the baby. Part of opsec even for guys seeing professionals. She's not just seen my car, she's been in it. As I posted, I pull my plate before I roll up to the M&G. When I go to the FC, I stop a block away and pull it, so if there are any security cameras, it isn't caught. This does not pose a problem in my jurisdiction, in some other places, it could be risky vis a vis the local constabulary. What do you mean, a 'profile' that would identify me? My SA profile? I don't have my real pictures on that site. I share one with her by text before meeting, I guess that's a risk. I don't see a good way to avoid that though. Everything in my profile is part of my sugar cover story. Every SD needs one. The girls I have had sugar relationships with didn't have any men in their lives so far as I know, and no, no one followed me. I give the SB cash for the room, and she does *everything* - I have no connection to it other than telling her what website to use. Hotelsbyday. There's nothing on my credit card. And as reflected in other nearby posts on this thread, you can effectively pay for SA membership with 'cash', via a specific prepaid debit card. That's the whole point. SA, even if it were hacked like Ashley Madison, has no easy way to know who I am.
If you really think that all members of the worlds oldest profession has a greater code of behavior than a particular woman who I have checked out and vetted, you're due some sympathy. The place I recommend girls book the FC, it always puts the name of the guest on the TV. So, I get her full name and can run a background check on one of these many people search sites on the web. This info isn't really useful to use during the relationship, but if it were to turn sour and she's coming at me with extortion boasts (I've heard it all - 'I know your wife' you have ammunition to shoot back. Seriously, do you think someone with either real $ or professional reputation at stake would get into this game without all sorts of weapons on their side? I am all about calculated risk. And controlling for it.
What is it with these L.A. GPS SB's that want $1000 and block you when you offer 500?
[QUOTE=PussyDestroyr;5254419]Easy solution, get your tubes tied boys. .[/QUOTE]I remember the first time I fucked a chick after getting my big V. Didn't have to worry about her being on birth control, didn't have to even think about pulling out. I just loved, and still do, firing my deactivated load inside these little hookers that don't think they're hookers.
Of course, when the big apocalypse happens, I won't be able to help repopulate the planet, so there's that draw-back.
[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5254326]Here is the problem with "sugar dating" the "nonpros". A pro never talks. You will not hear of a girl on any of the websites with "pros" going after you for blackmail. They are prostitutes and it is part of the code. Now, there are exceptions and you run into those when you start paying over market or attempt a relationship. Witness the 45th president and the hoes that talked.
If you are part of this girl's bread and butter, and you go on a carb free diet and stop paying her, you have a problem and she is not going away easy.
[b]First, if you are ever in the shower washing all of her numerous orgasms off you[/b], she checked your wallet and has your DL.[/QUOTE]This was my favorite part of this post. Thanks for the smirk.
[QUOTE]Any girls on SA who charges 2-3 times the going rate is not stupid. She is just not part of the code of silence of pros, because she is a, wait for it, non pro.
[blue]If they charge, they pros. End of
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]This is what I keep trying to tell everyone. Why don't they believe it?? I'm not saying you can't [I]pretend[/I] they aren't hookers, but at the end of the day (or hour) at least be honest with yourself.
[QUOTE=BobbyO;5262399]What is it with these L.A. GPS SB's that want $1000 and block you when you offer 500?[/QUOTE]Plenty of whales out there who hit the lottery / were born with it and want to waste their money LOL.
Thankfully there's even more girls, so just got to roll on and you'll hit.
Funny story, buddy of mine (not on here or SA) had his V done and divorced twice, etc. He had a girl on the side he was banging and was smashing her raw. After he had the surgery, she tried to say she was a month preggo and he said, nice try bxxxx and cut her. Girls can be scanless!
Stay safe.
AD.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5262845]I remember the first time I fucked a chick after getting my big V. Didn't have to worry about her being on birth control, didn't have to even think about pulling out. I just loved, and still do, firing my deactivated load inside these little hookers that don't think they're hookers.
Of course, when the big apocalypse happens, I won't be able to help repopulate the planet, so there's that draw-back.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JDeller;5250374]Yeah, I understand now where you are coming from. However, like another guy said, if a person is determined enough they will find you.[/QUOTE]I am very much with FarFarAway on this one!
I use the same security measures he does, with the exception of the license plate removal (not all SA women ever see my car).
The other steps he described are easy to do / arrange. As with him, I use a years old dumb burner phone. Not a smartphone, and paid for with prepaid cards. I have no photos on SA, and never exchange photos that appear anywhere public. So no use of photos from social media, etc. Most of my texting is done on the web using free disposable numbers. I access both web browsers and SA using Tor and/or VPN. So no IP tracking, and no text record even on the burner phone, other than a few last min directions to the door. Nothing with my real name or location.
Those steps all cut risk dramatically. Other than that, lots of women on SA are not that smart. Some are very smart indeed of course, and I tend to favor UC and equivalent students (ha ha). But most, not so much.
Using this approach has saved me from drama on several occasions over the years.
- The date who was wearing an ankle bracelet (tracker), when I got her clothes off! (Did not see her again).
- The dates who turned out to be druggies. Did not see them again.
- One lovely girl I saw, there was a message next day on my burner number from a "police officer". Did not even bother to listen to the rest of the message. No follow-up.
- The odd crazy.
So, thankfully no real issues other than being scammed in my early days, in over 4 years on SA.
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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5254277]I have also heard that if you have the SA app on an Android smartphone and get a GooglePay debit card, you can use the $ on that.
[/QUOTE]This is one detail where I differ!
I avoid Google in all its forms. Google apps, and Google Voice.
Google are infamous as world leading data aggregators.
They put 2 +2 together to come up with well over 5 all the time.
Use Google, and the chances that they will know the "real" you are high.
I have read that they even check who else has a Google phone with you in your car, if you have a Google / Android phone.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5264234]This is one detail where I differ!
I avoid Google in all its forms. Google apps, and Google Voice.
Google are infamous as world leading data aggregators.
They put 2 +2 together to come up with well over 5 all the time.
Use Google, and the chances that they will know the "real" you are high.
I have read that they even check who else has a Google phone with you in your car, if you have a Google / Android phone.[/QUOTE]I do understand this. Yes, it's true, they have ways of identifying that are amazing. Somewhat similar to what happened with David Petraeus, when the NSA figured out that he was having an affair with his biographer b / c their two devices that were connecting to the same email account were in close proximity (same hotel room). They never sent an email, they just logged into the same account and wrote message they saved as drafts.
The issue is, Google voice is just too damn convenient. I guess my thinking is that Google isn't very likely to try to show me up to my SO, whereas a baby might if she was pissed by something I had done and knew my real identity.
I have heard everyone discussing the downsides of many current POTs on SA. I have experienced it to, I do think there are a lot more problems. I absolutely cut those off at the pass. I am blocking every one that is even a slight bit bitchy, or doesn't fit into my deal. I am 60+, if a girl has an age cut off of anything below 55, I just block the profile, never to be seen again, cluttering up my searches, etc.
I mostly don't tell girls off when we have conflicts. In soCal right now there's a pretty blond who says she is pregnant. It's an interest of mine, something I've never done, so we messaged. Eventually she admits she's not even in CA right now, the usual crap, wants to start the 'arrangement' online, once she gets here we'll get together. Yeah right. I told her calmly that I am very experienced and there'll be no allowance until an in person meeting. She gives the 'nice' kiss-off, YK, I hope you can find what you're looking for on here, and I just block her and delete all those messages. She's not very smart when she's trying to pull that shit with someone who has a profile that is a few years old.
I've been trying to get back into after the huge mess of my previous relationship with a girl from SA. Since I've been banned I've tried 2 other sites, but it's been horrible. The lack of girls on these sites is horrible compared to SA. Also it's as if girls are using covid as an excuse to meet and are asking for online only. WTF!? Girls are also asking for money before ever meeting or even a deposit before. Also girls are quoting prices like 500 just to talk and nothing sexual at meet up.
I've also explored a bit of a reddit forum and feel as if I got roasted for saying I've only done ppm. Everything I've learned about using SA from this site over the years has been ppm. Are we in the minority in not giving weekly allowances? On Reddit it's as if they're making me out to be a monster. When I know every girl I've met has had an enjoyable time with me.
[QUOTE=TheHuntsman;5272158]
I've also explored a bit of a reddit forum and feel as if I got roasted for saying I've only done ppm. Everything I've learned about using SA from this site over the years has been ppm. Are we in the minority in not giving weekly allowances? On Reddit it's as if they're making me out to be a monster. When I know every girl I've met has had an enjoyable time with me.[/QUOTE]Reddit sugar forum is mostly a platform for pros and semi-pros SBs. Their whole outlook is how to get the most from men while doing the least possible. So of course all you'll hear is whatever benefits the girls most and they couldn't care less about the men's experience or point of view. Things like monthly allowance and 'how dare you offer less than 2 k a month' are all over the forum. Once you understand where it's coming from you can safely ignore it and just go on your merry way. It's just hoes complaining for the most part.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5272707]Reddit sugar forum is mostly a platform for pros and semi-pros SBs. Their whole outlook is how to get the most from men while doing the least possible. So of course all you'll hear is whatever benefits the girls most and they couldn't care less about the men's experience or point of view. Things like monthly allowance and 'how dare you offer less than 2 k a month' are all over the forum. Once you understand where it's coming from you can safely ignore it and just go on your merry way. It's just hoes complaining for the most part.[/QUOTE]Their entire model is to be a rinser.