[QUOTE=Crisler;6726325]I got the intel about her plan via text before deciding to meet. So I have no idea.[/QUOTE]So you never saw her? I mean, the only person who did has 10 total posts? I mean, that seems odd.
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[QUOTE=Crisler;6726325]I got the intel about her plan via text before deciding to meet. So I have no idea.[/QUOTE]So you never saw her? I mean, the only person who did has 10 total posts? I mean, that seems odd.
[QUOTE=Cherokee70;6726357]So you never saw her? I mean, the only person who did has 10 total posts? I mean, that seems odd.[/QUOTE]Correct. I never saw her. I tried with Valerie, but she insists on seeing ID. I tried with Ocean. At first she said no DFK, no kissing at all. When I tried from a different number, she said Yes to that. That's a red flag. Changing limits to say Yes just to get you to visit. Which suggests likely ripoff. When she explained the shower requirement, and refused to join, that was yet another red flag indicating she intended to let someone in the room while I was trapped (and naked) in the shower.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/exotic/pretty-young-thang/197961769765[/URL]
So she didn't rip me off, because I bailed due to red flags. And the ripoff report confirmed my suspicions. You're saying the low post count makes you doubt the credibility of the ripoff report? That's a reasonable view. I'd love to hear about your experience, if you pursue.
[QUOTE=Crisler;6726452]Correct. I never saw her. I tried with Valerie, but she insists on seeing ID. I tried with Ocean. At first she said no DFK, no kissing at all. When I tried from a different number, she said Yes to that. That's a red flag. Changing limits to say Yes just to get you to visit. Which suggests likely ripoff. When she explained the shower requirement, and refused to join, that was yet another red flag indicating she intended to let someone in the room while I was trapped (and naked) in the shower.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/exotic/pretty-young-thang/197961769765[/URL]
So she didn't rip me off, because I bailed due to red flags. And the ripoff report confirmed my suspicions. You're saying the low post count makes you doubt the credibility of the ripoff report? That's a reasonable view. I'd love to hear about your experience, if you pursue.[/QUOTE]I've never met either Ocean or Valerie. And I've never been particularly interested in seeing Valerie. And I'm not in a position to doubt the word of the guy who says they ripped him off. But it seems really odd that Valerie would be involved in ripping people off, given that Yuna has offered doubles with her and posed for pics with her and shares her tweets all the time. I trust Yuna more than I trust pretty much anybody else in this ugly business, so I can't help but be somewhat skeptical. At the same time, it is indeed an ugly business where people do ugly things. So it's hard to know what to think.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6726509]I've never met either Ocean or Valerie. And I've never been particularly interested in seeing Valerie. And I'm not in a position to doubt the word of the guy who says they ripped him off. But it seems really odd that Valerie would be involved in ripping people off, given that Yuna has offered doubles with her and posed for pics with her and shares her tweets all the time. I trust Yuna more than I trust pretty much anybody else in this ugly business, so I can't help but be somewhat skeptical. At the same time, it is indeed an ugly business where people do ugly things. So it's hard to know what to think.[/QUOTE]I didn't know the connection with Yuna. Still, without consistent and credible reports of good experiences with Valerie and Ocean, I have no desire to proceed given the red flags I see with them.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6726509]I've never met either Ocean or Valerie. And I've never been particularly interested in seeing Valerie. And I'm not in a position to doubt the word of the guy who says they ripped him off. But it seems really odd that Valerie would be involved in ripping people off, given that Yuna has offered doubles with her and posed for pics with her and shares her tweets all the time. I trust Yuna more than I trust pretty much anybody else in this ugly business, so I can't help but be somewhat skeptical. At the same time, it is indeed an ugly business where people do ugly things. So it's hard to know what to think.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about Ocean or Valerie, but I do know that I trust Yuna. However, I wouldn't assume that a lady won't rip guys off, just because she's done doubles with Yuna. I'm sure Valerie isn't ripping guys off when she's working with Yuna, but what she does independently, could be a whole different story. If Valerie is ripping guys off, does Yuna know that? I doubt very much that she would continue to work her, if she found that out to be true.
[QUOTE=RattleHead;6727272]I don't know anything about Ocean or Valerie, but I do know that I trust Yuna. However, I wouldn't assume that a lady won't rip guys off, just because she's done doubles with Yuna. I'm sure Valerie isn't ripping guys off when she's working with Yuna, but what she does independently, could be a whole different story. If Valerie is ripping guys off, does Yuna know that? I doubt very much that she would continue to work her, if she found that out to be true.[/QUOTE]Remember, even though she provides outstanding service, she is a sex worker. I don't have trust for any of them at all. Not worth the risk.
[QUOTE=BrunoMadison;6727330]Remember, even though she provides outstanding service, she is a sex worker. I don't have trust for any of them at all. Not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]On average, I find sex workers to be exactly as untrustworthy as the rest of the population. I trust individuals who have proven themselves to be trustworthy, regardless of what they do for a living. I've known drug dealers who are more honest than many of the legit business people I know. It's all case by case.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6727341]On average, I find sex workers to be exactly as untrustworthy as the rest of the population. I trust individuals who have proven themselves to be trustworthy, regardless of what they do for a living. I've known drug dealers who are more honest than many of the legit business people I know. It's all case by case.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. The only thing I'd add is that if all you know about someone is that they're a sex worker, you might want to adjust the default trust level you give them before you accumulate enough experience to adjust it (up or down).
[QUOTE=Crisler;6727366]Totally agree. The only thing I'd add is that if all you know about someone is that they're a sex worker, you might want to adjust the default trust level you give them before you accumulate enough experience to adjust it (up or down).[/QUOTE]I'm much more likely to believe a negative review from a poster with only a handful of previous posts than I am of the one-off glowing reviews of some girl, simply because I find stories of rip-offs, lousy service, and bad hygiene much more plausible than accounts of allegedly beautiful girls offering great service on STG. So a negative one off is much more likely to be accurate than a positive one off.
[QUOTE=Varanus;6727460]So a negative one off is much more likely to be accurate than a positive one off.[/QUOTE]That's probably true. But it's also true that disgruntled asshole clients spread lies about providers pretty often. And when asshole mongers act badly, it harms us all, because that's what leads so many good providers to put in place the onerous screening we all love so much. This hobby is full of bad apples on both sides of the equation, unfortunately. Overall, I have a pretty bleak view of humanity, so I'm highly skeptical of both positive and negative comments from people without a track record of reliable posts.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6727341]On average, I find sex workers to be exactly as untrustworthy as the rest of the population...[/QUOTE]That's nonsense. I'm much more confident that a plumber or auto mechanic won't take my money and run off with out without doing the job he was contracted to do than I am about an escort not doing the same. The worst a plumber or auto mechanic has ever done to me is charge too much for a service compared to others or make a mistake that he had to correct afterwards. And I'm also fairly confident that the mechanic or plumber's boss isn't waiting outside to rob me after he's done.
If everyone you deal with is as crooked, drug-addled, and depraved as the typical escort, perhaps you need to find a new social and business circle to move in.
[QUOTE=Varanus;6727546]That's nonsense. I'm much more confident that a plumber or auto mechanic won't take my money and run off with out without doing the job he was contracted to do than I am about an escort not doing the same.[/QUOTE]How often do you hire a plumber or mechanic that you absolutely nothing about, no referrals, no nothing?
[QUOTE]If everyone you deal with is as crooked, drug-addled, and depraved as the typical escort, perhaps you need to find a new social and business circle to move in.[/QUOTE]I don't deal with crooked, drug-addled escorts. I see ones that have a known history of being reliable and high quality. I stand by my comment. Maybe you need to be more selective in your choices of escorts. If you typically see crooked, drug-addled, bottom-of-the-barrel STG girls, it's no wonder you think sex workers are worse people on average than everyone else.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hot-and-ready-and-know-what-im/694437886895[/URL]
Saw this ad floating and wondering if anybody has seen her or has info. Looking the number up has given me some mixed thoughts.
[QUOTE=BlueManMatt;6727794][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hot-and-ready-and-know-what-im/694437886895[/URL]
Saw this ad floating and wondering if anybody has seen her or has info. Looking the number up has given me some mixed thoughts.[/QUOTE]I don't know about you guys, but I refuse to give anything to someone who is average. I mean, this is a typical fat chick at every bar in Wisconsin. What happened to having a fantasy situation? Eww.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6727604]How often do you hire a plumber or mechanic that you absolutely nothing about, no referrals, no nothing?
I don't deal with crooked, drug-addled escorts. I see ones that have a known history of being reliable and high quality. I stand by my comment. Maybe you need to be more selective in your choices of escorts. If you typically see crooked, drug-addled, bottom-of-the-barrel STG girls, it's no wonder you think sex workers are worse people on average than everyone else.[/QUOTE]Just curious, who do you see that is worth anything here? Literally everyone is a scam or just fat and nasty.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6727483]That's probably true. But it's also true that disgruntled asshole clients spread lies about providers pretty often. And when asshole mongers act badly, it harms us all, because that's what leads so many good providers to put in place the onerous screening we all love so much. This hobby is full of bad apples on both sides of the equation, unfortunately. Overall, I have a pretty bleak view of humanity, so I'm highly skeptical of both positive and negative comments from people without a track record of reliable posts.[/QUOTE]You're spot on. There have been asshole clients on this forum and the old H or H that you know treated the workers like crap or had bad hygiene, then complained about the service. I've never treated a worker like crap. Sure I've been pissed about the service, but those are the breaks. I also treat anyone I'm seeing for the first time carefully, but I try to always be pleasant.
I saw Xena for the first time recently. Overall it was a good experience. For starters, her communications are excellent, which is pretty rare these days. She responded quickly and clearly to all texts. In person, she was friendly and nice throughout. Her room was in a halfway decent hotel, not one of the sketchy shitholes. Reasonably GFE, though she wanted extra for the very most GFE activities, which I decided against paying. Decent menu without the upgrades, though. Outstanding BBBJ skills, though finishing there was one of the aforementioned upcharge items. The thing that makes me uncertain about repeating is that I didn't find her particularly attractive. Not terrible, but bigger than expected and just kind of an average-looking woman. On the other hand, she was laid back and pleasant to hang out with throughout, so I wouldn't rule out a rerun. Donation was 300 dollars worth of roses for full hour, which seems like way too much, but it's hard to find anybody worth seeing for less than that these days.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6728144]I saw Xena for the first time recently. Overall it was a good experience. For starters, her communications are excellent, which is pretty rare these days. She responded quickly and clearly to all texts. In person, she was friendly and nice throughout. Her room was in a halfway decent hotel, not one of the sketchy shitholes. Reasonably GFE, though she wanted extra for the very most GFE activities, which I decided against paying. Decent menu without the upgrades, though. Outstanding BBBJ skills, though finishing there was one of the aforementioned upcharge items. The thing that makes me uncertain about repeating is that I didn't find her particularly attractive. Not terrible, but bigger than expected and just kind of an average-looking woman. On the other hand, she was laid back and pleasant to hang out with throughout, so I wouldn't rule out a rerun. Donation was 300 dollars worth of roses for full hour, which seems like way too much, but it's hard to find anybody worth seeing for less than that these days.[/QUOTE]She's definitely worth seeing once to see if you click. She can be amazing. I've experienced "forgot it was a service" twice with her. I'd blame myself for the fact that I haven't repeated in a while. She didn't do the upcharges with me. $300 for an hour was essentially ultra GFE for me. That's at least a year ago, though. So it's not surprising she's changed things, at least for new (to her) clients.
Looks wise, I'm open to a wide range, and really only require average and clean. Service is vastly more important (to me). Of course, 8+ is ideal. But good luck with that. Yuna exceeds that (and her service is unparalleled). But I've only seen her once so far. I find it hard to plan that far ahead. LOL.
I'd find the upcharge from there irritating. Given how more or less basic my requests are. No idea whether that would apply to me. I just assume it would. Oh well.
[QUOTE=Crisler;6728219]She's definitely worth seeing once to see if you click. She can be amazing. I've experienced "forgot it was a service" twice with her. I'd blame myself for the fact that I haven't repeated in a while. She didn't do the upcharges with me. $300 for an hour was essentially ultra GFE for me. That's at least a year ago, though. So it's not surprising she's changed things, at least for new (to her) clients.
Looks wise, I'm open to a wide range, and really only require average and clean. Service is vastly more important (to me). Of course, 8+ is ideal. But good luck with that. Yuna exceeds that (and her service is unparalleled). But I've only seen her once so far. I find it hard to plan that far ahead. LOL.
I'd find the upcharge from there irritating. Given how more or less basic my requests are. No idea whether that would apply to me. I just assume it would. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Yep, been seeing Xena for about a year now. Things have definitely changed with her. Having said that she is probably the only one on STG that is clean and arguably worth the up charge. I haven't seen her in a couple months now, few mongers told me that she has almost doubled in size except in the chest region.
Having said all this, I'll still see her once in a while, what choice does one have in Madison?
Any info (name or? Or is there a consensus on this woman? Any help would be appreciated.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-cummm-unwrap-this-christmas-p/616961714349[/URL]
[QUOTE=PearlDiver20;6728584]Any info (name or? Or is there a consensus on this woman? Any help would be appreciated.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-cummm-unwrap-this-christmas-p/616961714349[/URL][/QUOTE]Her name is Mandy, I think. I've never seen her. There have been mixed reports over the years. Ranging from ultra GFE to terrible hygiene and rush job. I'd be wary.
[QUOTE=BlueManMatt;6727794][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hot-and-ready-and-know-what-im/694437886895[/URL]
Saw this ad floating and wondering if anybody has seen her or has info. Looking the number up has given me some mixed thoughts.[/QUOTE]Mixed thoughts. Very appropriate pun. If you call her, you'll wonder, "Who the fuck am I talking to?" LOL.
Pics are real. But service is terrible. She does not deliver what she says. I saw her once. I would not recommend.
[QUOTE=Crisler;6728937]Mixed thoughts. Very appropriate pun. If you call her, you'll wonder, "Who the fuck am I talking to?" LOL.
Pics are real. But service is terrible. She does not deliver what she says. I saw her once. I would not recommend.[/QUOTE]Mindy was the name, and horrible service is what is provided. You'll be lucky is she puts the tip in her mouth, and hygiene was an issue. I'd avoid. She is also a total space cadet.
[QUOTE=PearlDiver20;6728584]Any info (name or? Or is there a consensus on this woman? Any help would be appreciated.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-cummm-unwrap-this-christmas-p/616961714349[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm glad to read the feedback below on her to convince me to stay away.
I've seen her 3 times. 2 1/2 perhaps, depending on how you look at it.
1st time was a BBFSCIP rush job. In the living room of some townhouse, I forget where.
2nd time was in an east side motel. She flaked after she started BBBJ and said she had to go give money to someone outside. She left my money sitting on the tv stand. I waited 20 minutes, put my money back in my pocket, got dressed and left. She messaged me begging me to come back. I was pulling into Geisha House at that point.
3rd time was a motel on the east side headed toward Sun Prairie. BBFSCIP and it was one hot session. This was at least 3 years ago though.
I keep thinking I want to recapture the genie in the bottle. I see from the comments not to expect that at all.
[QUOTE=Crisler;6726452]I tried with Ocean. At first she said no DFK, no kissing at all. When I tried from a different number, she said Yes to that. That's a red flag. Changing limits to say Yes just to get you to visit. Which suggests likely ripoff. When she explained the shower requirement, and refused to join, that was yet another red flag indicating she intended to let someone in the room while I was trapped (and naked) in the shower.[/QUOTE][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/exotic/pretty-young-thang/781162581507[/URL]
BTW in case anybody didn't notice, Ocean is now Cleo. Must have been the bad publicity.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/latin/why-hello-there--eva-is-here-a/379430296136[/URL]
Anyone seen her or heard anything about her? Definitely like her look.
[QUOTE=Madtown11;6731494][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/latin/why-hello-there--eva-is-here-a/379430296136[/URL]
Anyone seen her or heard anything about her? Definitely like her look.[/QUOTE]Kinda looks like an Eva that was here about 8-10 years ago.
[QUOTE=DriveShaft;6731959]Kinda looks like an Eva that was here about 8-10 years ago.[/QUOTE]Whoever it is, she is fat and nasty.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6727604]How often do you hire a plumber or mechanic that you absolutely nothing about, no referrals, no nothing?
I don't deal with crooked, drug-addled escorts. I see ones that have a known history of being reliable and high quality. I stand by my comment. Maybe you need to be more selective in your choices of escorts. If you typically see crooked, drug-addled, bottom-of-the-barrel STG girls, it's no wonder you think sex workers are worse people on average than everyone else.[/QUOTE]Is that when a tradesmen screws you over, you have some kind of recourse available to you that you can exercise without turning yourself into the authorities.
Dope dealers and WGs operate in the "gray-zone", where the only real recourse you have is your nine or a blade if you're particularly ill tempered and vindictive.
[QUOTE=Cherokee70;6727971]I don't know about you guys, but I refuse to give anything to someone who is average. I mean, this is a typical fat chick at every bar in Wisconsin. What happened to having a fantasy situation? Eww.[/QUOTE]I can get a typical used up fat-ass at any time, anywhere pretty much.
If I'm going to pay for it, it better be something special like pretty much none of these distorted skanks online are not.
The butt has to be minimum as nice as this one.
[QUOTE=RayBand2;6728399]Yep, been seeing Xena for about a year now. Things have definitely changed with her. Having said that she is probably the only one on STG that is clean and arguably worth the up charge. I haven't seen her in a couple months now, few mongers told me that she has almost doubled in size except in the chest region.
Having said all this, I'll still see her once in a while, what choice does one have in Madison?[/QUOTE]She has definitely put on significant weight recently. When she first hit the scene and I first saw her, she wasn't slim but she was voluptuous in an attractive way, the last time I saw her she was on the road to thick and heavy rather than voluptuous. I haven't seen her in about two months too, hopefully she hasn't gotten much heavier since then because I'm thinking of giving her a call again sometimes soon.
As you say, the other choices in Madison are either junkies and thieves (most everyone else on STG) or girls on Tryst who want close to a thousand dollars, so she seems to have the market between these two extremes cornered.
[QUOTE=Varanus;6733285]She has definitely put on significant weight recently. When she first hit the scene and I first saw her, she wasn't slim but she was voluptuous in an attractive way, the last time I saw her she was on the road to thick and heavy rather than voluptuous. I haven't seen her in about two months too, hopefully she hasn't gotten much heavier since then because I'm thinking of giving her a call again sometimes soon.
As you say, the other choices in Madison are either junkies and thieves (most everyone else on STG) or girls on Tryst who want close to a thousand dollars, so she seems to have the market between these two extremes cornered.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her in over a year. That's unfortunate. She had a very nice athletic healthy body.
[QUOTE=Wahobbert;6733214]I can get a typical used up fat-ass at any time, anywhere pretty much.
If I'm going to pay for it, it better be something special like pretty much none of these distorted skanks online are not.
The butt has to be minimum as nice as this one.[/QUOTE]Who's that?
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6727604]How often do you hire a plumber or mechanic that you absolutely nothing about, no referrals, no nothing?[/QUOTE]I move a lot for work, so I wind up in places where I don't know anyone from Adam, so I often wind up hiring tradesman who I know nothing about. Some have charged me too much, none has stolen anything from me. I also don't remember any of them showing up high as a kite on smack or meth.
[QUOTE]I don't deal with crooked, drug-addled escorts. I see ones that have a known history of being reliable and high quality. I stand by my comment. Maybe you need to be more selective in your choices of escorts. If you typically see crooked, drug-addled, bottom-of-the-barrel STG girls, it's no wonder you think sex workers are worse people on average than everyone else.[/QUOTE]I see that reading comprehension isn't your strong point. My post said that the typical escort (especially around here) is a thief and a drug addict. In contrast, the typical person I meet is neither a thief nor a junky. So you found the one escort in Madison who isn't a thief or a junky, and you've met some crooked tradesmen, bully for you. Perhaps you should get yourself a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "typical. " I stand by my statement that the typical call girl, especially around here, is a thief or a junky. STG "bottom of the barrel" is 99% of the market here. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or a liar (probably both).
Sofia has been posting daily on Tryst and STG for her one day visit next week. Prices are typical for the better-looking girls on Tryst (with a 300 hh option, and unlike many, no deposits), but I can't find anything on her searching under "Sofia". Did she used to go by a different handle?
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sofia-665[/URL]
[QUOTE=Varanus;6733756]Sofia has been posting daily on Tryst and STG for her one day visit next week. Prices are typical for the better-looking girls on Tryst (with a 300 hh option, and unlike many, no deposits), but I can't find anything on her searching under "Sofia". Did she used to go by a different handle?
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sofia-665[/URL][/QUOTE]I was curious too. Not a ton of info out there, but the Dayton mongers seem to like her pretty well if you check that forum.
Remember the young cute Anastasia? She posted recently as "Brittany". Very briefly. The ad is gone now:
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/madison/female-escorts/caucasian_w/read-post-details-/118228131181[/URL]
Did anyone happen to see her? I'd have repeated frequently if her service wasn't so limited and stiff.
[QUOTE=Varanus;6733756]Sofia has been posting daily on Tryst and STG for her one day visit next week. Prices are typical for the better-looking girls on Tryst (with a 300 hh option, and unlike many, no deposits), but I can't find anything on her searching under "Sofia". Did she used to go by a different handle?
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sofia-665[/URL][/QUOTE]Imagine the clusterfuck of a girl announcing her arrival 3 weeks in advance. All the guys tripping over their dicks at their special chance to get in line for the one day she's here.
[QUOTE=Varanus;6733752]I move a lot for work, so I wind up in places where I don't know anyone from Adam, so I often wind up hiring tradesman who I know nothing about. Some have charged me too much, none has stolen anything from me. I also don't remember any of them showing up high as a kite on smack or meth.
I see that reading comprehension isn't your strong point. My post said that the typical escort (especially around here) is a thief and a drug addict. In contrast, the typical person I meet is neither a thief nor a junky. So you found the one escort in Madison who isn't a thief or a junky, and you've met some crooked tradesmen, bully for you. Perhaps you should get yourself a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "typical. " I stand by my statement that the typical call girl, especially around here, is a thief or a junky. STG "bottom of the barrel" is 99% of the market here. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or a liar (probably both).[/QUOTE]Yuna is extremely atypical. Absolutely worth seeing.
[QUOTE=Crisler;6733736]Who's that?[/QUOTE]She died this summer I'm sorry to say. I really liked that one too.