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[QUOTE=Sscdrake;5803675]Seriously. I've lived min 6 months in a lot of places, including UK, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Germany, Caribbean, a few choice places in Brazil, and all over the US, mostly bigger cities (Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Denver, Tampa), and Portland absolutely takes the cake. The more you realize how bad it is, from hobbying to simple stuff like prices, structure of the city, homeless problem, the people, weather. About the only good thing here is it's not Cali (yet) and the food to a degree, LOL. Not sure I'd ever recommend the city to anyone.
Been looking to leave for a while, but the pandemic, war, economy, etc hasn't been putting up walls there. Thinking of going to one of the expatriate havens in Thailand, France is opening up a special visa for WFH tenants too. Thailand's people are sickenly positive and upbeat on average, it's a nice place, very cheap, and as a hobbyist, it's paradise. Here, the price of hobbying has steadily been going up while the number of things girls won't do has also gone up, including basic stuff, and it's been harder to find girls willing to do BB.[/QUOTE]It's Portland. Even Seattle is considerably better, though not pricing wise, but they have much better looking women. I can't believe the land whales, fuglies, GPS that are currently in this town. 95% I see on most sites are a hard pass.
Like you, I've traveled all over. Just bought my first condo in Sarasota the other day so I can spend a good percent of my time outside of Oregon. Florida is really great for providers: better looking, 30-50% less cost, much friendly, easy to find BBFS, BBBJ, cim, Greek, etc. I have a few regulars here, but I don't really like to get too close to providers because I have a lot to lose with the risk of getting outted if one of them goes loony, which is always a possibility.
Even places like LA and Chicago have better pricing, on average, than Portland. Especially Chicago. I haven't been to LA in about four years for the obvious reasons. Chicago is a fabulous town for many reasons, but the women there are great! Friendly, open-minded, beautiful. But it's the Midwest. There's a different mindset there.
I lived in Thailand for over a year 12 years ago. Wow! Amazing. And actually, you don't need to go to the bar girls (providers), normal women will throw themselves at you. But that is because they all want American or European husbands. I had women coming onto me so hard at clubs there, literally grabbing my cock on the dance floor. I remember being really sad when I was moving back to the states, thinking about having to go back and deal with American women again. Thai women are beautiful, kind, very sexual and submissive (until you marry them and they become little tyrants! LOL. I avoided that).
Europe is great too. You can get a literal porn star there for the price of a hot safety girl here in places like Spain, Czech Republic, shit, even Paris and Berlin.
I've been to Medellin once but didn't partake. Too afraid to get rolled. Central America too, but again, too paranoid I'd get be-headed by the cartel.
Anyway, I know I'm being kind of negative, but I've had residency in Portland for 30 years now, and until about six years ago thought I would never leave. I loved this town. Now I'm completely burned out on the politics, crime, homeless problems, graffiti, etc. That I know I will leave permanently in the next few years. About the only good things about here are the food and whiskey bars.
[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5808134]It's Portland. Even Seattle is considerably better, though not pricing wise, but they have much better looking women. I can't believe the land whales, fuglies, GPS that are currently in this town. 95% I see on most sites are a hard pass.
Like you, I've traveled all over. Just bought my first condo in Sarasota the other day so I can spend a good percent of my time outside of Oregon. Florida is really great for providers: better looking, 30-50% less cost, much friendly, easy to find BBFS, BBBJ, cim, Greek, etc. I have a few regulars here, but I don't really like to get too close to providers because I have a lot to lose with the risk of getting outted if one of them goes loony, which is always a possibility.
Even places like LA and Chicago have better pricing, on average, than Portland. Especially Chicago. I haven't been to LA in about four years for the obvious reasons. Chicago is a fabulous town for many reasons, but the women there are great! Friendly, open-minded, beautiful. But it's the Midwest. There's a different mindset there.
I lived in Thailand for over a year 12 years ago. Wow! Amazing. And actually, you don't need to go to the bar girls (providers), normal women will throw themselves at you. But that is because they all want American or European husbands. I had women coming onto me so hard at clubs there, literally grabbing my cock on the dance floor. I remember being really sad when I was moving back to the states, thinking about having to go back and deal with American women again. Thai women are beautiful, kind, very sexual and submissive (until you marry them and they become little tyrants! LOL. I avoided that).
Europe is great too. You can get a literal porn star there for the price of a hot safety girl here in places like Spain, Czech Republic, shit, even Paris and Berlin.
I've been to Medellin once but didn't partake. Too afraid to get rolled. Central America too, but again, too paranoid I'd get be-headed by the cartel.
Anyway, I know I'm being kind of negative, but I've had residency in Portland for 30 years now, and until about six years ago thought I would never leave. I loved this town. Now I'm completely burned out on the politics, crime, homeless problems, graffiti, etc. That I know I will leave permanently in the next few years. About the only good things about here are the food and whiskey bars.[/QUOTE]It was nice to hear your experiences. Now I want to travel a lot more!
[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5808134]It's Portland. Even Seattle is considerably better, though not pricing wise, but they have much better looking women. I can't believe the land whales, fuglies, GPS that are currently in this town. 95% I see on most sites are a hard pass.
Like you, I've traveled all over. Just bought my first condo in Sarasota the other day so I can spend a good percent of my time outside of Oregon. Florida is really great for providers: better looking, 30-50% less cost, much friendly, easy to find BBFS, BBBJ, cim, Greek, etc. I have a few regulars here, but I don't really like to get too close to providers because I have a lot to lose with the risk of getting outted if one of them goes loony, which is always a possibility.
Even places like LA and Chicago have better pricing, on average, than Portland. Especially Chicago. I haven't been to LA in about four years for the obvious reasons. Chicago is a fabulous town for many reasons, but the women there are great! Friendly, open-minded, beautiful. But it's the Midwest. There's a different mindset there.
I lived in Thailand for over a year 12 years ago. Wow! Amazing. And actually, you don't need to go to the bar girls (providers), normal women will throw themselves at you. But that is because they all want American or European husbands. I had women coming onto me so hard at clubs there, literally grabbing my cock on the dance floor. I remember being really sad when I was moving back to the states, thinking about having to go back and deal with American women again. Thai women are beautiful, kind, very sexual and submissive (until you marry them and they become little tyrants! LOL. I avoided that).
Europe is great too. You can get a literal porn star there for the price of a hot safety girl here in places like Spain, Czech Republic, shit, even Paris and Berlin.
I've been to Medellin once but didn't partake. Too afraid to get rolled. Central America too, but again, too paranoid I'd get be-headed by the cartel.
Anyway, I know I'm being kind of negative, but I've had residency in Portland for 30 years now, and until about six years ago thought I would never leave. I loved this town. Now I'm completely burned out on the politics, crime, homeless problems, graffiti, etc. That I know I will leave permanently in the next few years. About the only good things about here are the food and whiskey bars.[/QUOTE]I'm 100% convinced it is the currently shitty nature of the other board and how it's become a provider centric board with completely neutered reviews. When that board went to shit, the pussy market in Portland went to shit. The very best thing that could happen to the market in Portland would be for TNA to get shut down. I've been on there since Day 1, so I can't believe I'm saying that, but it's absolutely the case.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;5809867]I'm 100% convinced it is the currently shitty nature of the other board and how it's become a provider centric board with completely neutered reviews. When that board went to shit, the pussy market in Portland went to shit. The very best thing that could happen to the market in Portland would be for TNA to get shut down. I've been on there since Day 1, so I can't believe I'm saying that, but it's absolutely the case.[/QUOTE]Been on since it was clreview. And yes the Portland market is a travesty. The saying the inmates have taken over seems appropriate.
150-250 tops for an hour was the standard and only 10's asked for 250. Most girls were GFE and FS was the exception. It's really spiraling. Most providers clearly don't like what they do or are desperately trying to dissociate so the can "save themselves" for out of the hobby partners, and pandemic rich dudes and white knight reviews have kind of been the nail in the coffin.
[QUOTE=DickHertz1965;5797449]Anyone recognize this one from SA, I do but can't remember where:[/QUOTE]That's Diamond. She dances at Cabaret 2. Spent a night with her for a grand last weekend. She stayed well into the next day and was a true GFE. The whole time.
[QUOTE=Privaceyiskey;5810405]Been on since it was clreview. And yes the Portland market is a travesty. The saying the inmates have taken over seems appropriate.
150-250 tops for an hour was the standard and only 10's asked for 250. Most girls were GFE and FS was the exception. It's really spiraling. Most providers clearly don't like what they do or are desperately trying to dissociate so the can "save themselves" for out of the hobby partners, and pandemic rich dudes and white knight reviews have kind of been the nail in the coffin.[/QUOTE]I found some old notes from experiences I had. I used to do this 2003-2005. In 2004, I was banging this 19 year old blond stripper for 120/ hr, and she was HOT. Not the "alternative" strippers you see now (translation = over-weight and ugly). Beautiful girl, BBBJCIM, daty, etc, etc. I realize that was 18 years ago, but that kind of provider would be 500/ hr now. I think Portland provider rates increased at the same level as housing prices. I bought my first house in 1999 for $105 k. That same house is $500 k+ now.
She posts a TON just wondering if she belongs here.
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[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5812368]I found some old notes from experiences I had. I used to do this 2003-2005. In 2004, I was banging this 19 year old blond stripper for 120/ hr, and she was HOT. Not the "alternative" strippers you see now (translation = over-weight and ugly). Beautiful girl, BBBJCIM, daty, etc, etc. I realize that was 18 years ago, but that kind of provider would be 500/ hr now. I think Portland provider rates increased at the same level as housing prices. I bought my first house in 1999 for $105 k. That same house is $500 k+ now.[/QUOTE]Did you think you would be paying the same price 17-18 years later? How much did you pay for gas in 2003-2005?
[QUOTE=PapaBearDied;5812305]That's Diamond. She dances at Cabaret 2. Spent a night with her for a grand last weekend. She stayed well into the next day and was a true GFE. The whole time.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Do you know if she belongs here, and do you think she would offer smaller time / donation amounts? I prefer to make a getaway like a bank robber just afterward.
Anyone want to share providers who do BBFS who are based on the West Side (Beaverton, Tigard, Hillsboro). Ever since RedheadKelsey, Carlee, and Scarlett L left the scene / are I've been going dry. I've seen RedHeron a handful of times but I want some new pussy LOL. If you want to share publicly, great. If not then feel free to DM me.
The only other providers that I know do BBFS and are on the West Side are Pdxgreeneyebeauty and bellafoxx, but they both haven't posted for a while, at least on TNA.
Before anyone suggests Portland, I've drove down there 3 times. Each time I've had my car either broken into, window smashed for now reason, or keyed. I'm done with Portland proper, it's just not worth the drive.
You should try taylorrose27 xxx.
Greeneye posted OC on LS.
Never met Bellafox, can't even find her on TNA.
[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5808134]It's Portland. Even Seattle is considerably better, though not pricing wise, but they have much better looking women. I can't believe the land whales, fuglies, GPS that are currently in this town. 95% I see on most sites are a hard pass.[/QUOTE]Yeah, been a while since I lived there but Florida was really nice too, especially in certain parts. Very good in the non professional scene, I used to have a work friend who asked to clean my apartment for side cash once she found out I didn't have a g / f (she already did this as a side gig which is how it came up), and well, as you can guess, it escalated from there. She was a hot young Cuban, super tight, and didn't ask for much and actually was good at cleaning. I always tipped her like double, but she was also kind of a freak so she was into it. And I agree about Thailand! Man, I regret leaving so much. It was a tough choice even back then but now I shake my head every time I think about it. Yeah not sure I'd marry a Thailand woman, but they're very good on sex positivity over there, I've had random girls ask if I was a tourist and if they could hang out with me, with them asking if they could come home with me at the end, most didn't ask for anything until after, and even then it was a kind of "if I wanted to thing. " Really awkward the first time because I tend to be a suspicious person and I'm average looking at best, but either they were really good at pretending at being interested or Thai women just love adventuring with random men and seeing where it goes. Very different from the US, like night and day. Even with American thots, LOL. And yeah, they're submissive, but in a really cute way, at least to me, but I love the playful teasing. I wouldn't go to Central America either unless, let's just say, you can more or less blend in, and since most hobbyists are older white gentleman, probably not the best choice for them. It's really bad, especially in some places, like Brazil. I lived with a friend who was from there though, and though we didn't have a sexual relationship (she was a lesbian) we've shared a few women before lmao, and she taught me a lot about Brazil. But shit, it's crazy how calmly she mentioned that you could just get rolled and that's that, rarely anything comes out of it, especially in certain cities / towns. Mexico's a lot better, but some places are like that too.
[QUOTE]Anyway, I know I'm being kind of negative, but I've had residency in Portland for 30 years now, and until about six years ago thought I would never leave. I loved this town. Now I'm completely burned out on the politics, crime, homeless problems, graffiti, etc. That I know I will leave permanently in the next few years. About the only good things about here are the food and whiskey bars.[/QUOTE]I really tried to love it. I came up here because of a friend. I know I sounded a bit harsh, but this city just tires me out, and being a hobbyist can be frustrating sometimes, especially compared to where I came from just before Portland, man was I spoiled for choice and service, I guess. Everything here is pretty pricey, which wouldn't be bad if the quality matched, but it doesn't. Again, I do love the food though, and yeah not really staying long if I can help it.
[QUOTE=PdxBoy1;5808815]It was nice to hear your experiences. Now I want to travel a lot more![/QUOTE]Do it if you can. Even without hobbying, it's a worthwhile life experience, and if you plan well it doesn't have to be expensive. If you plan to include hobbying too, and make sure to think with the big head, you're find it really hard to come back. The US is really archaic when it comes to sex positivity and the view on prostitution in general. Ironic, even, considering places like * being fairly accepted and making some girls millions. That's basically shittier prostitution because it definitely ain't formal porn production. Whatever, though. Maybe the laws will change eventually, though I mean weed isn't even federally legal yet so eh.
[QUOTE=Privaceyiskey;5810405]Been on since it was clreview. And yes the Portland market is a travesty. The saying the inmates have taken over seems appropriate.
150-250 tops for an hour was the standard and only 10's asked for 250. Most girls were GFE and FS was the exception. It's really spiraling.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I haven't been here as long as some of you but when I came up here the prices were only slightly higher than what I was used to seeing with relatively similar menus. Lot less organic non-professional action but I chalked that up to just being a quirk of where I was before Portland, and, well craiglist diamonds in the rough being curious or hoping to score pocket change.
But yeah. A lot of average look or slightly below average escorts charging ridiculous prices for like half an hour, with basically the only thing on the list being using them as a slightly alive sex toy (no kissing, no daty, no GFE, no Greek, rushed service, etc. More and more tell me they don't do bjs or charge like $60 extra which is mind-blowing). Like, much as I would prefer paying less, I wouldn't mind if the service were high, but it's going to the pooper and the few nice providers either skyrocket into the 300+ range or quit.
Back down south, about 8-10-ish years ago, you could get hh for 80, hour for 120, many girls would happily do bng with regulars for $40-60, bb was more but far more often on the table, every AMP offered FS with my experience, and the big cities always offered the full spa experience. Maybe it is due to the perception shift with that forum. I don't know. I browse more than I partake these days.
[QUOTE=Organiz;5813550]You should try taylorrose27 xxx.
Greeneye posted OC on LS.
Never met Bellafox, can't even find her on TNA.[/QUOTE]I thought she was safety only? Implied BBFS with her and she said no. You find more about bellafoxx by searching back a few more posts. Can't recall her full tna username but she was a good time when I saw her.
[QUOTE=Organiz;5813550]You should try taylorrose27 xxx.
Greeneye posted OC on LS.
Never met Bellafox, can't even find her on TNA.[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with that acronym.