Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=GracefulMilf;5863652]Steve is not a pimp, he's a secretary. The girls don't for work for him, he works for them. While there will always be guys looking to pay for p*why, no girl is obligated to go through him to sell it. If he wasn't so inconsistent and such an ass, then girls might keep using his services, but he pays for half the hotel cost with one, then makes the next pay full price. He says 20% with one girl, then 25% with the next. He doesn't make one girl "try out" but has made others. And he's morbidly obese so this is quite the ask, especially for a freebie. If he was paying by the pound, then it would almost be worth it, but not with his crappy, entitled, arrogant attitude. I'd be more willing to pleasure a morbidly obese guy if he were a sweet heart, and have. I'd rather work at McDonald's than give him a blow, and that's where he's going to wind up when girls realize they don't need him. And I personally don't mind giving someone a cut who keeps LEO off my back, and sends me people who will actually pay, but there should be different percentages if I've got to use my gas and my car and my time driving out to someone. It's a poor business model, is why women don't stay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5864028]Wow great post Gracie. You pretty much nailed what been said by the girls that has left.[/QUOTE]I don't have a dog in this fight, but I never had an issue with Steve setting things up, and I've heard those same complaints regarding Steve from some of the girls.

It can't be an easy thing managing the schedules of a bunch of hookers. They get high, don't show, don't call, blah blah. But, on the other hand, every single one of those girls gave me their direct line for future scheduling (well, except that [B]wonder Filipina[/B] whose name escapes me right now.), so they weren't all that loyal to the booker.

My point is, it's easy to blame everything on Steve, but I don't think that's fair. Could he be better about business practices? Sure.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5864325]I don't have a dog in this fight, but I never had an issue with Steve setting things up, and I've heard those same complaints regarding Steve from some of the girls.

It can't be an easy thing managing the schedules of a bunch of hookers. They get high, don't show, don't call, blah blah. But, on the other hand, every single one of those girls gave me their direct line for future scheduling (well, except that [B]wonder Filipina[/B] whose name escapes me right now.), so they weren't all that loyal to the booker.

My point is, it's easy to blame everything on Steve, but I don't think that's fair. Could he be better about business practices? Sure.[/QUOTE]Well, that must be my problem with him, I am not a hooker with addiction issues, my word is my bond and I am more of a professional unrepentant ****. I enjoy myself, I love men, and it's hot as hell to get a donation for our time together. I've put a lot of practice in with a couple marriages and relationships, have the scar to prove it and consider myself an expert. I bend over backwards to please and always want to leave a positive impression, if I can't be the best they ever had. I suppose I feel like the nasty attitude as if I'm going to take off with his "cut" for being a booking agent. It is completely unwarranted in my case, its certainly no way to treat a lady.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5864325]I don't have a dog in this fight, but I never had an issue with Steve setting things up, and I've heard those same complaints regarding Steve from some of the girls.

It can't be an easy thing managing the schedules of a bunch of hookers. They get high, don't show, don't call, blah blah. But, on the other hand, every single one of those girls gave me their direct line for future scheduling (well, except that [B]wonder Filipina[/B] whose name escapes me right now.), so they weren't all that loyal to the booker.

My point is, it's easy to blame everything on Steve, but I don't think that's fair. Could he be better about business practices? Sure.[/QUOTE]I've seen several of his girls over the years. Some have complained, many haven't. EE works well for me as I often am trying to do something on short notice. He responds quickly. His girls always look like the pics he sends. I've only had one that seemed to be on something, but it wasn't bad to the point that I left. Like the lady mentioned, he helps keep the law of their backs. It also makes me feel safer visiting one of his girls as opposed to trying my luck on something more random. I'm sure someone is going to say I'm being a white knight. That's not the case. His service just works for how I'm able to play the game.

[QUOTE=WoodFordR69;5864642]I've seen several of his girls over the years. Some have complained, many haven't. EE works well for me as I often am trying to do something on short notice. He responds quickly. His girls always look like the pics he sends. I've only had one that seemed to be on something, but it wasn't bad to the point that I left. Like the lady mentioned, he helps keep the law of their backs. It also makes me feel safer visiting one of his girls as opposed to trying my luck on something more random. I'm sure someone is going to say I'm being a white knight. That's not the case. His service just works for how I'm able to play the game.[/QUOTE]White knight or not he is loosing hits fast.

For proving my point. He can charge girls whatever he wants based on how much a pain in the ass they are. Would it be easier for you if he looked like an underwear model? Maybe he charges a lower percentage to girls that actually produce, don't complain, bring in regulars, have guys constantly asking for them. Sorry that wasn't you. He pays for half your workplace, brings in guys that pay, keeps LEO away, and you ***** because you have to pay for your own gas and use your own car (if you even have one) to get to work. News flash, we all do that, welcome to the grown up world. Every one of you girls that ***** about him freely entered into that arrangement with him. Like someone else said, we use him because he has safe girls at safe locations that are usually ready and waiting for us within and hour.

[QUOTE=GracefulMilf;5863652]Steve is not a pimp, he's a secretary. The girls don't for work for him, he works for them. While there will always be guys looking to pay for p*why, no girl is obligated to go through him to sell it. If he wasn't so inconsistent and such an ass, then girls might keep using his services, but he pays for half the hotel cost with one, then makes the next pay full price. He says 20% with one girl, then 25% with the next. He doesn't make one girl "try out" but has made others. And he's morbidly obese so this is quite the ask, especially for a freebie. If he was paying by the pound, then it would almost be worth it, but not with his crappy, entitled, arrogant attitude. I'd be more willing to pleasure a morbidly obese guy if he were a sweet heart, and have. I'd rather work at McDonald's than give him a blow, and that's where he's going to wind up when girls realize they don't need him. And I personally don't mind giving someone a cut who keeps LEO off my back, and sends me people who will actually pay, but there should be different percentages if I've got to use my gas and my car and my time driving out to someone. It's a poor business model, is why women don't stay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GracefulMilf;5863652]Steve is not a pimp, he's a secretary. The girls don't for work for him, he works for them. While there will always be guys looking to pay for p*why, no girl is obligated to go through him to sell it. If he wasn't so inconsistent and such an ass, then girls might keep using his services, but he pays for half the hotel cost with one, then makes the next pay full price. He says 20% with one girl, then 25% with the next. He doesn't make one girl "try out" but has made others. And he's morbidly obese so this is quite the ask, especially for a freebie. If he was paying by the pound, then it would almost be worth it, but not with his crappy, entitled, arrogant attitude. I'd be more willing to pleasure a morbidly obese guy if he were a sweet heart, and have. I'd rather work at McDonald's than give him a blow, and that's where he's going to wind up when girls realize they don't need him. And I personally don't mind giving someone a cut who keeps LEO off my back, and sends me people who will actually pay, but there should be different percentages if I've got to use my gas and my car and my time driving out to someone. It's a poor business model, is why women don't stay.[/QUOTE]Steve is pig and you hit the mark, I've had many of the best ones out there tell me the same story you are telling here.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=ChaseOne1;5869093]I am trying to PM to Hillbilly Bob. Getting message his mail box is full.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5869358]Okay. Sorry. Cleared now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5869614]I think this is either sarcasm or a 3rd HB account LOL.[/QUOTE]No way HB can write as well as Pearish. Just saying.

[QUOTE=ChaseOne1;5868719]Trying to send you PM, mail box full. Thanks in advance Hillbilly Bob.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DickHerGood;5868765]Okay. Sorry. Cleared now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5868954]Damn. Looks like HillbillyBob forgot to log out of that other account. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5865019]For proving my point. He can charge girls whatever he wants based on how much a pain in the ass they are. Would it be easier for you if he looked like an underwear model? Maybe he charges a lower percentage to girls that actually produce, don't complain, bring in regulars, have guys constantly asking for them. Sorry that wasn't you. He pays for half your workplace, brings in guys that pay, keeps LEO away, and you ***** because you have to pay for your own gas and use your own car (if you even have one) to get to work. News flash, we all do that, welcome to the grown up world. Every one of you girls that ***** about him freely entered into that arrangement with him. Like someone else said, we use him because he has safe girls at safe locations that are usually ready and waiting for us within and hour.[/QUOTE]I laugh at hearing he keeps LEO away. He does no such thing. Things have just been fortunate. His "screening" is a joke.

They both suck.

Tried to access this site while at the game yesterday and it was blocked by MLBs / GABPs WiFi. And, there is little if any cell coverage in that place.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5870271]They both suck.

Tried to access this site while at the game yesterday and it was blocked by MLBs / GABPs WiFi. And, there is little if any cell coverage in that place.[/QUOTE]There's good cell coverage at / near / by the GABP. You just were sharing the bandwidth with 60,000 other people streaming, posting video, facetiming, etc. , on a system designed to handle 25,000 at a time.

Opening day is an aberration. On any other day, the coverage is more than adequate.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5870271]They both suck.

Tried to access this site while at the game yesterday and it was blocked by MLBs / GABPs WiFi. And, there is little if any cell coverage in that place.[/QUOTE]I agree with the Reds suck lead my Bell an his stupid managing skills with pitcher. However I had no problem with the Cell service.

An yes MLB does block this site. It's also block at several places. Tri health blocks it also.

Yesterday was bad but today looks worse 80% chance of rain. Looks like another long day at the ballpark. Guess I will set up a provider after the game to ease the pain.

I don't pay Verizon for service that works only in the optimal time for them.

[QUOTE=DNut;5870318]There's good cell coverage at / near / by the GABP. You just were sharing the bandwidth with 60,000 other people streaming, posting video, facetiming, etc. , on a system designed to handle 25,000 at a time.

Opening day is an aberration. On any other day, the coverage is more than adequate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hooter12;5870105]I laugh at hearing he keeps LEO away. He does no such thing. Things have just been fortunate. His "screening" is a joke.[/QUOTE]EE screening is do you have cash. With the few girls he has an the little time the are available he is more interested in your money.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5871031]I don't pay Verizon for service that works only in the optimal time for them.[/QUOTE]In free market capitalism, you're perfectly free to sign-up with another carrier. I doubt there's going to be any improvement with any other carrier at / around / in / by GABP during opening day.

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Posting the mugshots of people who have been arrested is [u]somewhat heartless[/u] and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.

Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs.

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[QUOTE=Hooter12;5870105]I laugh at hearing he keeps LEO away. He does no such thing. Things have just been fortunate. His "screening" is a joke.[/QUOTE]This post aged well.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5874097]For you guys that have been using Stevee at EE he is on Vacation with his uncle in Kenton County. They mostly likely have his phone. [b]As everyone knows he was never a favorite of mine but hate seeing this happen[/b]. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Yep. The've had their eye on Steve since the debacle a few years back at the hotel where they confiscated his phones and all.
Hopefully he's not giving up all the client info. A lot of those girls seemed to have real world info on their clients. Some folks talk too much about their "chef" activities, etc. and share Instagram and Snapchat photos. LOL.

I'm sure they have his phone. Everyone here using Google Voice should probably be thinking about getting an honest burner.

Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;5874832]Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.[/QUOTE]The best advice. I had Kenton County call my burner once when I lived over there. I'll never know what they wanted because I tossed it and got a new one. I always assumed someone got pinched and they got my burner phone off their shit. Never heard anything else, and wouldn't have gone down the the station voluntarily if I had.
[quote="Molly"]
[b]If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.[/b][/quote]

I hope this isn't copyrighted. I'll be using it in some conversation soon.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;5874832]Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.[/QUOTE]LOL jesus just relax. Nobody from here is going to be contacted by the police.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;5874832]Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about Steve. I dealt with him a few times back around 2012 to 2014. I didn't have a strong opinion about him, one way or the other. He treated me fairly enough.

The media and LE have decided that every escort is a victim of human trafficking. And nothing screams that narrative like an overweight middle-age man running a bunch of ladies.

I do not think that Steve was truly a bad guy, but he was a prime target in the current environment.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;5874832]Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially the phone numbers.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;5874832]Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing it.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5874698]Yep. The've had their eye on Steve since the debacle a few years back at the hotel where they confiscated his phones and all.
Hopefully he's not giving up all the client info. A lot of those girls seemed to have real world info on their clients. Some folks talk too much about their "chef" activities, etc. and share Instagram and Snapchat photos. LOL.

I'm sure they have his phone. Everyone here using Google Voice should probably be thinking about getting an honest burner.[/QUOTE]What are the cops going to do with a Google Voice number?

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5876262]What are the cops going to do with a Google Voice number?[/QUOTE]They usually just spam you GrayBar Hotel coupons. Don't try to redeem them and you're golden.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5875788]Sorry to hear about Steve. I dealt with him a few times back around 2012 to 2014. I didn't have a strong opinion about him, one way or the other. He treated me fairly enough.

The media and LE have decided that every escort is a victim of human trafficking. And nothing screams that narrative like an overweight middle-age man running a bunch of ladies.

I do not think that Steve was truly a bad guy, but he was a prime target in the current environment.[/QUOTE]Those were the days when the Hobby was booming. Steve an Buddha had several girls working for them. Last couple of years EE Quality an numbers have went down hill. Be interesting to see if he or anyone starts scheduling again.

The person You have to feel bad for is Mariah that was with him. . I doubt any clients going to want to touch her knowing that she was working for him and he got caught.

So what will happen now to girls like Mariah?

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5876551]So what will happen now to girls like Mariah?[/QUOTE]They will be able to collect unemployment. LOL.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5876478]They usually just spam you GrayBar Hotel coupons. Don't try to redeem them and you're golden.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5876262]What are the cops going to do with a Google Voice number?[/QUOTE]If they're conducting a "Human Trafficking" (or, for that matter, any other) investigation, they can contact Google and ask for the account information. I promise, Google will comply.

Very unlikely, but you asked. Folks seem to think Google voice is anonymous. Not even a little bit.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5876551]So what will happen now to girls like Mariah?[/QUOTE]Probably will be contacted by social workers that want to assist her in the mad rush to find some victims to convict Steve with.

Two of the best, in my humble opinion. Both genuine and friendly and loved their profession. I miss them terribly.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5876662]If they're conducting a "Human Trafficking" (or, for that matter, any other) investigation, they can contact Google and ask for the account information. I promise, Google will comply.

Very unlikely, but you asked. Folks seem to think Google voice is anonymous. Not even a little bit.[/QUOTE]What about Telegraph? Is that anonymous?

Kind of ironic that Steve was the subject of beratement on here a few days ago from a would-be provider who didn't care much for him; just makes you wonder at the coincidence. That would be a shame.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5874698]Yep. The've had their eye on Steve since the debacle a few years back at the hotel where they confiscated his phones and all.
Hopefully he's not giving up all the client info. A lot of those girls seemed to have real world info on their clients. Some folks talk too much about their "chef" activities, etc. and share Instagram and Snapchat photos. LOL.

I'm sure they have his phone. Everyone here using Google Voice should probably be thinking about getting an honest burner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Holdrhem;5876778]What about Telegraph? Is that anonymous?[/QUOTE]Really none of its anonymous bro, if they want to find out something, they are going to find out what they are looking for. None of it will hold up in court let alone make its way into court unless you are contacting a live sting ad, or are a high ranking official that someone is going after their job like that west virginia senator, and he was in an extremely low crime county with nothing better to do. And even then it didn't hold up in court. The only problem you're going to run into is if you're married or have a significant other or some shit like that, like hypothetically they call your home phone and then your wife figures out or something to that effect and an argument ensues. But even then you're not going to court, that guy was a senator, we are peons. they have a hard enough time getting charges to stick on the dudes that DO show up to the operations. Easy solution to all of this? Don't get married.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5877851]Really none of its anonymous bro, if they want to find out something, they are going to find out what they are looking for. None of it will hold up in court let alone make its way into court unless you are contacting a live sting ad, or are a high ranking official that someone is going after their job like that west virginia senator, and he was in an extremely low crime county with nothing better to do. And even then it didn't hold up in court. The only problem you're going to run into is if you're married or have a significant other or some shit like that, like hypothetically they call your home phone and then your wife figures out or something to that effect and an argument ensues. But even then you're not going to court, that guy was a senator, we are peons. they have a hard enough time getting charges to stick on the dudes that DO show up to the operations. Easy solution to all of this? Don't get married.[/QUOTE]If I'm reading the penalty section of KY Laws, the max fine for a john is going to be $250. They are not likely going to spend a bunch of investigation resources to hand out tickets. Now, if they find someone on parole has violated that parole by using his illegal services, they might go after them. With all the drug OD's & recent shootings, they have other shit to worry about.

[QUOTE=RE1975;5877832]Kind of ironic that Steve was the subject of beratement on here a few days ago from a would-be provider who didn't care much for him; just makes you wonder at the coincidence. That would be a shame.[/QUOTE]My guess is they established dates with several girls to prove he was the wizard behind the curtain and then busted him. There is no way they looked up his website and said hey let's just arrest him. I would also guess during that time they watched others go in and out as well!! Goes back to don't say anything if you get questioned! I do know prior to the pandemic, from a talkative intoxicated officer one night at a bar that he said they (nky cooperating agencies) have access to infrared cameras and laser mics. So who knows how this might play out. Be safe.

[QUOTE=WoodFordR69;5877956]If I'm reading the penalty section of KY Laws, the max fine for a john is going to be $250. They are not likely going to spend a bunch of investigation resources to hand out tickets. Now, if they find someone on parole has violated that parole by using his illegal services, they might go after them. With all the drug OD's & recent shootings, they have other shit to worry about.[/QUOTE]

The law is vague, but you could get charged for human trafficking - the part that reads supporting which could mean paying. You also need to add if they impound your car for using it to commit a crime; the penalty for criminal tools I. E. Phone, computer etc. It's never just one charge in the end. Plus court costs. Plus John school. If you hire an attorney that's probably another $2500.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;5878053]The law is vague, but you could get charged for human trafficking - the part that reads supporting which could mean paying. You also need to add if they impound your car for using it to commit a crime; the penalty for criminal tools I. E. Phone, computer etc. It's never just one charge in the end. Plus court costs. Plus John school. If you hire an attorney that's probably another $2500.[/QUOTE]Here is a very important line in Ohios code for human trafficking: "In a prosecution under this section, proof that the defendant engaged in sexual activity with any person, or solicited sexual activity with any person, whether or not for hire, without more, does not constitute a violation of this section. ".

That is a statute reserved for true pieces of shit. Even guys who are drivers don't end up with anything severe. There was some old guy, clearly just an average harmless dude, who got charged with fourth degree felony promoting prostitution for giving a woman a ride to what turned out to be a sting back in 2017. (invasive as fuck, its really nobodys business if im hanging out with a grown woman, guy never should have been charged.) It was amended to fourth degree misdemeanor disorderly conduct and he got off with a small fine. Still all great examples of why to never pay electronically and not be specific in chat logs, but its highly doubtful some random peon is going to get charged for that, not in Ohio at least, and even if they did it wouldnt hold up in court. Kentucky I can't speak to that, but something tells me that the only way something like that has a snowballs chance in hell of materializing is if the guy incriminates himself.

Took me a while but i dug up the article. this poor bastard. finding the case on case search you can see the amended charge.

[URL]https://www.wkbn.com/news/3-arrested-during-undercover-sex-stings-in-austintown/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LuckyNutz;5876354]When someone takes 25-40% of a women's donation and tries to have "free" dreams, then he is in fact a pimp.[/QUOTE]There's absolutely no way, I told him 20% when he tried to say 25% and I don't do freebies. And I have more discerning taste in men, shall we say? He never got me a room, I have my own car, I'm not on anything and I think this is fun. I enjoy it and it shows. I'm also not desperate, I own my on home and have a job, just getting some upgrades paid for after 10 of living there. I love my job but the pay sucks. I am crap at scheduling; I just need someone to tell me where to be and the 20% was almost worth it, but he's a creep. I do have a new scheduler, with whom I am his only gal who does this sort of thing. He's just a nice guy who is super organized, could use the extra cash, and really really loves the product he's helping to peddle. I approve of guys or not, and he manages my schedule. I'm not a crack head, I don't do guys only crack heads would do.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;5878053]The law is vague, but you could get charged for human trafficking - the part that reads supporting which could mean paying. You also need to add if they impound your car for using it to commit a crime; the penalty for criminal tools I. E. Phone, computer etc. It's never just one charge in the end. Plus court costs. Plus John school. If you hire an attorney that's probably another $2500.[/QUOTE]Your right about what it could cost if they got serious. On the HT part, there were a lot of references to having explicit knowledge. Looks like it was written to ensure they can get the handlers but customers would be hard to prove. Again, just my interpretation. Generally uncles threaten stuff like that to get higher up in the org. They already took the head off the snake. Everything else is just pennies on the dollar. They have a high burden of proof for the potential of a smaller reward than the expenses of the investigation. They can get a shitload more confiscating cash from a dealer. Hell, in the BC sting where they caught dudes in the room, they just got tickets to pay. Showing up was absolute proof. If someone at the the's office has a serious hard-on to chase this, maybe they do. More than likely they stop at the head & maybe parolees they can violate back. That's just my bet.