Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Mipene77]Yes, I agree with you about the possible robbery. But whenever I go to an AMP I always take my wallet into the shower with me. I just tell the girl that I trust her but not the other people there. I have mongered for twenty years and never got robbed. But I guess there is always a first time.

Oh and yea I think they did have a bad vibe at Hannabi about me. Maybe they thought I was a cop, who knows. That's OK I will never go back.

And I never pay upfront even after a shower or even if the girl gets up in the middle of the session to reach in my pants to get the money. That happened to me once. The girl got up and started going through my pants to get to my wallet. I grabbed her by the arm looked her straight in the eye and told her to never do that again to me or anybody else and then I got dressed and told Mama about it. I told mama that she should teach her girls more respect for her customers. Mama gave me another girl.[/QUOTE]

Long ago when I first started going to AMPS, some of them had small plastic zippered cosmetic bags that customers could put their wallet, keys, watch etc. in, and take it to the shower room with them. I always thought this was a good idea as it protected both the customer and AMP from possible theft or accusations of theft.
I have also heard that sometimes if a provider suspects you of being LE, they will look in your wallet and clothes in the room while you are taking a shower.

[QUOTE=Mipene77]Yes, I agree with you about the possible robbery. But whenever I go to an AMP I always take my wallet into the shower with me. I just tell the girl that I trust her but not the other people there. I have mongered for twenty years and never got robbed. But I guess there is always a first time.

Oh and yea I think they did have a bad vibe at Hannabi about me. Maybe they thought I was a cop, who knows. That's OK I will never go back.

And I never pay upfront even after a shower or even if the girl gets up in the middle of the session to reach in my pants to get the money. That happened to me once. The girl got up and started going through my pants to get to my wallet. I grabbed her by the arm looked her straight in the eye and told her to never do that again to me or anybody else and then I got dressed and told Mama about it. I told mama that she should teach her girls more respect for her customers. Mama gave me another girl.[/QUOTE]
Just to let you know when I said any kind of robbery, I meant all types not just the girls. I think Nirvana or some place got robbed last year I think. I don't know if it was the same case but I also heard about the customers getting robbed too. To the guy who said they would at least bring their ID, well why? If there is a raid during the sessions that will be the first thing they will check from the customers. If you don't have your ID, who knows? you might get let go right away. There is no rule or law saying you have to have your ID in a MP. The worst they can do is tell you to go get it. Remember your rights and keep safe all.

[QUOTE=Jeju Man]Gesh. Never ever pay up front! Fools pay up front.

If she demands up front payment, walk out and go to another place! They are all over the place.

How many times have YOU paid up front and been disappointed with the service or technique? Or the massage?

I do not stiff 'them, but if the service was lacking in quality, or was suppose to be a BBBJ and was not. I'll pay her, but not what she wanted. And if it was exceptional, I'll pay a few bucks more. But never ever up front. Been disappointed to many times! And the few places that I go to often. Know that I pay after and not up front and the reason why.

If I go to a place. First time. They don't know me and vice versa. I still won't pay up front.

A buddy of mine takes his 50 or 100 bill and tears it in half and gives her one half and the other when done. Tape it together. Banks accept it.[/QUOTE]
If you get a shower from the start your house fee is already lost and usually the girl will wait after the shower. For some once they invested that much they want to just go through with it because they may not have or willing to spend anymore at another place. About your post about cops lying, well you can handle that at a trial. As the American way is "Innocent until proven guilty." So basically yes accepting credit cards at a AMP should be fine but its just a matter of the business getting one, which isn't easy for them. Oh and your buddy who rips bills, should be careful because that is a crime.

I actually like this post. I think it has a lot of things to think about if you are a newbie.

The only thing I would not agree with is #4. I never get naked until I have seen the girl and decided to stay. If you get naked then you might have to get dressed again.

I agree that most AMPs in Hawaii tend to not even bother with the formalities and so some of this may not apply. But there are some AMPs such as Dragonfly, Apple, and Sakura University where many of these rules and tips do apply including the one about bringing your own condom.

It's also good when you are traveling or going to a place you've never been to follow some of these.

Good to be careful. A bunch of guys in Kona got busted in a sting a fee weeks back. While it was not an AMP situation it can happen even in Hawaii.



[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn]Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor). I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other mongering options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside - Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your ID. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP - Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say hello to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer - This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, "have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.


3a) Fake Being a Repeat Customer - If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. and have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3b) If you are a new Customer - You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP - Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Bring your own condom - The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

6) Shower Etiquette - Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

7) Enjoy the Massage - It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

8) Lose the Towel - If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

9) Become Aroused - Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

10) Wait to Flip Over - At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

11) The "Tip" - The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (i.e. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

12) The Fun Part - When she returns (or starts), it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

13) Variations - If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

14) Happy Ending - After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

15) Be Polite - I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f**k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.[/QUOTE]

I've paid up front plenty of times and not been disappointed.

In fact, many escorts require upfront payment.

In my experience it puts everyone at ease and if done right will not incriminate you either.

If the girl knows she's got her money it may put her at ease and have a more enjoyable experience.

I rarely ever go without researching the girl first so robs and bad experiences are rarely a problem.

[QUOTE=Jeju Man]Gesh. Never ever pay up front! Fools pay up front.

If she demands up front payment, walk out and go to another place! They are all over the place.

How many times have YOU paid up front and been disappointed with the service or technique? Or the massage?

I do not stiff 'them, but if the service was lacking in quality, or was suppose to be a BBBJ and was not. I'll pay her, but not what she wanted. And if it was exceptional, I'll pay a few bucks more. But never ever up front. Been disappointed to many times! And the few places that I go to often. Know that I pay after and not up front and the reason why.

If I go to a place. First time. They don't know me and vice versa. I still won't pay up front.

A buddy of mine takes his 50 or 100 bill and tears it in half and gives her one half and the other when done. Tape it together. Banks accept it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jeju Man]One does not have to be caught in the act...cops lie all the time....."yeah, he was caught in the act" when in fact he was not. Everyday, somewhere, some place, a cop is getting arrested or going to jail for being dirty.[/QUOTE]I have heard first hand-and very recently, too- about cops getting HJ, then try to bust the girl by forcing her to accept money for FS. Nothing irritates me more than arrogance in authority.

[QUOTE=Blade82]Just to let you know when I said any kind of robbery, I meant all types not just the girls. I think Nirvana or some place got robbed last year I think. I don't know if it was the same case but I also heard about the customers getting robbed too. To the guy who said they would at least bring their ID, well why? If there is a raid during the sessions that will be the first thing they will check from the customers. If you don't have your ID, who knows? You might get let go right away. There is no rule or law saying you have to have your ID in a MP. The worst they can do is tell you to go get it. Remember your rights and keep safe all.[/QUOTE]I carry a folding knife which is legal in this state. Years ago at the old Tokyo Spa across from Ala Moana I was undressing in front of the girl in the room and my knife fell out of my pocket. She looked at it and I could tell it kinda scared her, but we already hit if off easily and I calmly explained I keep it for protection. In the end, she showed me a hammer which she stored hidden under the floor matress in case of an emergency to defend herself! Just a few months later, the place was in the news about a bunch of guys messing up the place, smashing the pool table and stuff. Girls always say the most fearful time is after 2 in the morning when the nearby bars close.

Even Sua at the old P10 kept a baseball bat and VIP is smart keeping those two guards outside, RM has the rat dog. I like it when the MS's are tough, sharp and watching out for both the girls and us rather than just leaving doors open or too eager to invite you in. Stay safe brothers!

[QUOTE=Lahainawhaler]Even Sua at the old P10 kept a baseball bat and VIP is smart keeping those two guards outside, RM has the rat dog.[/QUOTE]LMAO! I can imagine the rat dog jumping up and trying to nip at a guys nuts only to fall a few inches short from its target. LMAO

[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn]Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor)..[/QUOTE]That's a good general guide Bobby G! I always found it strange that these places were called AMP's as in Hawaii they are all asian as far as I know so I've always referred to them as simply MP's. Do they have other types in other states/countries? It would be pretty neat to have EMP's(European) in heavily asian populated cities/states such as is the case here. I'm not much of a historian but I'm guessing somehow the name may have developed based on the incorrect western perception of a "geisha house"?

I could only add a few suggestions for those who have not been loyal readers from the another forum days:

1a)Use a 'mongering' wallet. I used to use an old wallet which would have only the amount of money necessary with maybe a little extra hidden-no ID, no CC, nothing that could identify me. I would keep most of the fee in Jacksons. If the provider gave poor service or was rude, I'd give her only 1. 2 from the wallet and keep the extra $30 to $40 in a pocket. If the service was average to good, I'd give her 1. 5-1. 6. Worst case scenario, if she made too much of a fuss you could give her the rest of the fee from the pocket. These days I only take my phone and the money but I am experienced enough to weed out the bad service providers before we get down to business.

3c)Do not appear nervous. As is the case in any situation, if you look/act nervous, you will most likely make the mama and providers nervous as well. It may take a few visits to get your nerves down to a completely managable level. I still get a slight rush of adrenaline whether I monger at an AMP, with a CG or on the street and that's part of the draw for me but I find the service is better when you can make the provider feel comfortable.

Just play it cool, confident, and classy

I look young, but within the first few seconds the mama can tell that I know what I'm going and that I've done and seen most (have to keep an open mind) of what an AMP has to offer. They never give me a hard time even when I request to see the whole line up and walk. They know I'm a potential repeat (good) customer and that she just didn't have what I wanted that night.

Now, with that being said. The ONLY place I EVER had a hard time getting into was P10. I don't know what's up with Sua and never could figure it out. She needs to start working again and hire herself a experienced mamasan.

In fact, I think we should start a best mamasan thread. Not just ratings but stories with the focus on comfort and service.

[QUOTE=Spyda]LMAO! I can imagine the rat dog jumping up and trying to nip at a guys nuts only to fall a few inches short from its target. LMAO[/QUOTE]I love how the Taco Bell dog has now become known as the "Rat Dog". That would be one hell of a vertical leap if it could bite your nuts. I think everyone who goes into RM should refer to the mascot as Rat Dog. Just to confuse Candy mama as to who exactly is who on this site, since I know she reads the forum

I would disagree. I think that if you didn't have your ID they would hold you longer in order to figure out and confirm who you are. Believe me. Best thing you can do is cooperate with them. Imagine you get caught in a place that is suspected of illegal activity...what no id? Not even a drivers license? Sir please empty out your pockets (you are also frisked). They notice your car keys and ask you to press the button...beep beep. Hey how did you drive here if you don't have your license? This exact scenario didn't happen to me. Best thing to do is cooperate and don't say anything to incriminate yourself or the girls.

[QUOTE=Blade82]Just to let you know when I said any kind of robbery, I meant all types not just the girls. I think Nirvana or some place got robbed last year I think. I don't know if it was the same case but I also heard about the customers getting robbed too. To the guy who said they would at least bring their ID, well why? If there is a raid during the sessions that will be the first thing they will check from the customers. If you don't have your ID, who knows? you might get let go right away. There is no rule or law saying you have to have your ID in a MP. The worst they can do is tell you to go get it. Remember your rights and keep safe all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tsunami69]I love how the Taco Bell dog has now become known as the "Rat Dog". That would be one hell of a vertical leap if it could bite your nuts. I think everyone who goes into RM should refer to the mascot as Rat Dog. Just to confuse Candy mama as to who exactly is who on this site, since I know she reads the forum[/QUOTE]Did anyone ever tried boning Candy, the mama san or RM? I've been there a couple of occasions and sometimes she looked like she could really use some hot action. I'll bet once you get her hormones going, she'll turn into some wild animal released from its cage for the first time!

That dog, Lucky may actually bite some guy's nuts!

Indeed there are other types of MP.

In Arizona and Texas there are MP where all the girls are Latin decent. There are also MPs with all white or mixed girls. In other states I have never seen any non-Asian working in an AMP. They work at other places.

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]That's a good general guide Bobby G! I always found it strange that these places were called AMP's as in Hawaii they are all asian as far as I know so I've always referred to them as simply MP's. Do they have other types in other states/countries? It would be pretty neat to have EMP's(European) in heavily asian populated cities/states such as is the case here. I'm not much of a historian but I'm guessing somehow the name may have developed based on the incorrect western perception of a "geisha house"?

I could only add a few suggestions for those who have not been loyal readers from the another forum days:

1a)Use a 'mongering' wallet. I used to use an old wallet which would have only the amount of money necessary with maybe a little extra hidden-no ID, no CC, nothing that could identify me. I would keep most of the fee in Jacksons. If the provider gave poor service or was rude, I'd give her only 1. 2 from the wallet and keep the extra $30 to $40 in a pocket. If the service was average to good, I'd give her 1. 5-1. 6. Worst case scenario, if she made too much of a fuss you could give her the rest of the fee from the pocket. These days I only take my phone and the money but I am experienced enough to weed out the bad service providers before we get down to business.

3c)Do not appear nervous. As is the case in any situation, if you look/act nervous, you will most likely make the mama and providers nervous as well. It may take a few visits to get your nerves down to a completely managable level. I still get a slight rush of adrenaline whether I monger at an AMP, with a CG or on the street and that's part of the draw for me but I find the service is better when you can make the provider feel comfortable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slow Hi]Indeed there are other types of MP.

In Arizona and Texas there are MP where all the girls are Latin decent. There are also MPs with all white or mixed girls. In other states I have never seen any non-Asian working in an AMP. They work at other places.[/QUOTE]

In CA there are MPs that have Latinas. And in the Sacramento area there are Russian MPs.

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]3c)Do not appear nervous. As is the case in any situation, if you look/act nervous, you will most likely make the mama and providers nervous as well. It may take a few visits to get your nerves down to a completely managable level. I still get a slight rush of adrenaline whether I monger at an AMP, with a CG or on the street and that's part of the draw for me but I find the service is better when you can make the provider feel comfortable.[/QUOTE]

What Lip Licker just mentioned is crucial and is something that must be added onto Bobby Gunns list. This is soo.. true as most of us cannot help but feel nervous not on just the very first visit to an AMP but, even if it's more than several visits. I feel it's due to the excitement and the rush that you get by going to an AMP and oofing someone new and different. There's just alot of things to be nervous about from having someone see you going to an AMP, the provider you are getting, the possibility of a RAID. All of this would make any guy nervous.

But, being to nervous where it shows is not good. She is trying to make you relax and enjoy the session but, if you're nervous and it shows, she doesn't know what else to do to make you relax and feel comfortable. It's making her feel uncomfortable as well. Also, if you show that you're nervous, this will imply to her that you are a noobie to the AMP scene.

Back then, when I was very nervous, my heart was just beating soo fast I couldn't slow it down. I was excited but nervous also. When she was on the bed giving me a massage, I was saying I was nervous several times. She said: "Why are you nervous?" The more I said I was nervous, she was getting irritated by it. It actually turned her off that it made her feel uncomfortable.

We all can't completely rid out nervousness when we visit these places but, just try your best to relax and enjoy. Be smiley in there as it makes her, mama san and the whole place feel comfortable as well. If you bring an aura of warmth into the place with a personality that's utterly charming beyond recognition, they cannot help but remember you on the next visit. You don't want any provider to you see you as a possible threat to them.

[QUOTE=Insatiable808]Was wanting to sample some Nirvana nookie. Was in the town area, approx early 8am, weekday morning. Read that they are avail in the morning. Hard to find parking. Ended up parking on Piikoi, nr the park/Chevron station/King St. Dropped a blue one, had a couple of ganja hits. I was good to go! Walked to Nirvana. Infamous stairs/entry. MS took at least 2 min to open the door. Almost walked. Felt like everyone was looking at me while I was buzzing to get in. Finally, bleary eyed MS opens the door & lets me in.

The place is empty. Of course, it's 8 o'clock in the morning! I love it!! Into the room walks an attractive, good looking, 30ish, slim, sexy, grabbable ass whorean honey. She says her name is Lucky. TS OK. Back to the room for breakfast/dessert in bed.

Incredible sex!! However, had to pop a mint into her mouth. She had a minor case of morning hauna breath!! Once that was taken care of, we rocked!! She loves to screw! We explored each other's genitals. Sweet poontang! Very willing to try multiple positions. Fucked like we were long lost lovers. Love to use my morning wood on soft, wet girl meat.

Popped after lengthy sword play in her pulsating warm flesh.

Great way to start the day!! Excellent exercise, that's what I call a good morning stretch. Probably won't repeat 'cause want to try younger Tiny or Sugar (if they are still there). Maybe tame the wild Bella. YMMV L8/S9/A9. Usual 50/150.

Next report: Mayumi/Perfect10

Happy Hunting,

I808[/QUOTE]The girl's correct name is Miyuki/Perfect 10 Hottie!!

Aloha, I808

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]That's a good general guide Bobby G! I always found it strange that these places were called AMP's as in Hawaii they are all asian as far as I know so I've always referred to them as simply MP's. Do they have other types in other states/countries? It would be pretty neat to have EMP's(European) in heavily asian populated cities/states such as is the case here. I'm not much of a historian but I'm guessing somehow the name may have developed based on the incorrect western perception of a "geisha house"?

I could only add a few suggestions for those who have not been loyal readers from the another forum days:

1a)Use a 'mongering' wallet. I used to use an old wallet which would have only the amount of money necessary with maybe a little extra hidden-no ID, no CC, nothing that could identify me. I would keep most of the fee in Jacksons. If the provider gave poor service or was rude, I'd give her only 1. 2 from the wallet and keep the extra $30 to $40 in a pocket. If the service was average to good, I'd give her 1. 5-1. 6. Worst case scenario, if she made too much of a fuss you could give her the rest of the fee from the pocket. These days I only take my phone and the money but I am experienced enough to weed out the bad service providers before we get down to business.

3c)Do not appear nervous. As is the case in any situation, if you look/act nervous, you will most likely make the mama and providers nervous as well. It may take a few visits to get your nerves down to a completely managable level. I still get a slight rush of adrenaline whether I monger at an AMP, with a CG or on the street and that's part of the draw for me but I find the service is better when you can make the provider feel comfortable.[/QUOTE]#3 Become a repeat, Especially to H-Mom. You will be provided and taken

Care. No need to be "Paranoid". After alot of "Rappongi Visits" with most of The Babes there in 2006-09, GFE from all the babes, Especially Mimi, I've left my wallet, Cell-Ph on the end table while showering with the Babes and no problems, Full trust! But if you rather explore, venture to different places, I suggest you read and consider #1, #2, 3a, 3b 4 to 15.

[QUOTE=Strong Mojo]I would disagree. I think that if you didn't have your ID they would hold you longer in order to figure out and confirm who you are. Believe me. Best thing you can do is cooperate with them. Imagine you get caught in a place that is suspected of illegal activity...what no id? Not even a drivers license? Sir please empty out your pockets (you are also frisked). They notice your car keys and ask you to press the button...beep beep. Hey how did you drive here if you don't have your license? This exact scenario didn't happen to me. Best thing to do is cooperate and don't say anything to incriminate yourself or the girls.[/QUOTE]
Like I said the worst case scenario is they tell you to go get your wallet. There is no law or rule that you have to carry around your license(when you drive of course). Remember too they are not raiding you the customer but the establishment. You will be used more as a witness. So unless they break down the doors during the session, you are pretty much safe.

Saw Apple again. I know there been talk about amazon chicks, and she is definitely one! At least 5'8" prolly 130 with some very nice d's and large tattoo on her left back. Started with a nice massage, CBJ, cg and finish in mish. Was a very nice chat after and shower. Went over time, but she didn't seem to be in a rush. Well return again when I get more $$ cause I really like her boobs. L9/A9/S8. Std dmg .50 house / $.50 Apple.

[QUOTE=Blade82]Like I said the worst case scenario is they tell you to go get your wallet. There is no law or rule that you have to carry around your license(when you drive of course). Remember too they are not raiding you the customer but the establishment. You will be used more as a witness. So unless they break down the doors during the session, you are pretty much safe.[/QUOTE]

Yup. No need. Say you happen to lose or forget your ID at the AMP. You walk out of there and drive home. You then get pulled over by a cop for some reason. The cop says: "License, registration and insurance" You going through your pocket and then: "shit, where's my ID? Oh crap I must have dropped it or left it at VIP"

Besides, I don't want them to look at my ID and they see a photo of me DATY a chick between her legs and my name Uki Eater. Then, she tell mama and the other girls: "Oni oni! He is Uki eater from the forum!" lol

[QUOTE=Datyb]In CA there are MPs that have Latinas. And in the Sacramento area there are Russian MPs.[/QUOTE]

Oh man, I gotta get myself a ticket to Northern Cali pronto! Are the other MP's similar in operation? While I don't practice the 2nd wallet in Hawaii any longer, I'd probably feel like a NooB all over again in another City.

[QUOTE=Datyb]In CA there are MPs that have Latinas. And in the Sacramento area there are Russian MPs.[/QUOTE]OMG! An AMP full of girls like NIKA! In Sacramento? I have many friends there. Maybe I should plan a trip? Wonder why they have 'settled' there.

What do we have to do to have them spend time out here?

[QUOTE=Strong Mojo]I would disagree. I think that if you didn't have your ID they would hold you longer in order to figure out and confirm who you are. Believe me. Best thing you can do is cooperate with them. Imagine you get caught in a place that is suspected of illegal activity. What no id? Not even a drivers license? Sir please empty out your pockets (you are also frisked). They notice your car keys and ask you to press the button. Beep beep. Hey how did you drive here if you don't have your license? This exact scenario didn't happen to me. Best thing to do is cooperate and don't say anything to incriminate yourself or the girls.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Strong Mojo. There may not be a law requiring a person to carry an ID, but government thugs can make a person's life pretty uncomfortable if they so choose, as in: Officer Friendly. "OK, lets see some ID. What's that, you don't have an ID? You look kind of familiar, didn't I arrest you about a year ago for (fill in the blank possession/DUI/assault/etc.)? What's that, now you say you do have an ID, and it's in your car? Are you admitting you lied to me, an officer of the law!! What say we go for a ride down to the police station."

As Strong Mojo advises, it's best to carry an ID; and remember cooperate, but don't say anything incriminating. A fish won't get caught if it keeps its mouth shut.

[QUOTE=Ottiss]I agree with you Strong Mojo. There may not be a law requiring a person to carry an ID, but government thugs can make a person's life pretty uncomfortable if they so choose, as in: Officer Friendly. "OK, lets see some ID. What's that, you don't have an ID? You look kind of familiar, didn't I arrest you about a year ago for (fill in the blank possession/DUI/assault/etc.)? What's that, now you say you do have an ID, and it's in your car? Are you admitting you lied to me, an officer of the law!! What say we go for a ride down to the police station."

As Strong Mojo advises, it's best to carry an ID; and remember cooperate, but don't say anything incriminating. A fish won't get caught if it keeps its mouth shut.[/QUOTE]


in this wonderful US of A, we are innocent until proven guilty. They can SAY all the shit they want, but if they don't catch you in the act, you walk.


-V

[QUOTE=Blade82] Perhaps Mipene they had a bad vibe about you at Hanabi so they sent in an expert(Hanabi) to screen you, maybe.[/QUOTE]

A possibility is that they have our photo ID from their security cameras. They might have a scouting report of a customer's tendecies and how much you tip matched with the photo ID. I get the feeling they know which AMPs I've been a repeat customer. Which mamasan is the Bill Belichick of AMPs?

[QUOTE=Ottiss]I agree with you Strong Mojo. There may not be a law requiring a person to carry an ID, but government thugs can make a person's life pretty uncomfortable if they so choose, as in: Officer Friendly. "OK, lets see some ID. What's that, you don't have an ID? You look kind of familiar, didn't I arrest you about a year ago for (fill in the blank possession/DUI/assault/etc.)? What's that, now you say you do have an ID, and it's in your car? Are you admitting you lied to me, an officer of the law!! What say we go for a ride down to the police station."

As Strong Mojo advises, it's best to carry an ID; and remember cooperate, but don't say anything incriminating. A fish won't get caught if it keeps its mouth shut.[/QUOTE]

If you are at an AMP when it gets raided, it is technically a crime scene. The police can legally detain anyone there while they conduct their investigation. They do not have to place you under arrest, but they can detain you. The police will want to ID you and run a check on you for outstanding warrants. If you have your ID (Drivers License/State ID Card) the process will go quicker and you will be allowed to leave with a warning/lecture, provided you have no outstanding warrants. If you have no ID, the process will take longer. Above all be respectful and courteous to the police. Being a wise ass is of no benefit. You want the police to allow you to leave ASAP, before the news media shows up to video you leaving the AMP.

[QUOTE=Darkman808]OMG! An AMP full of girls like NIKA! In Sacramento? I have many friends there. Maybe I should plan a trip? Wonder why they have 'settled' there.

What do we have to do to have them spend time out here?[/QUOTE]

There are two Russian sisters stripping at Rock Za. It's a start.

[QUOTE=Stangman808]If you are at an AMP when it gets raided, it is technically a crime scene. The police can legally detain anyone there while they conduct their investigation. They do not have to place you under arrest, but they can detain you. The police will want to ID you and run a check on you for outstanding warrants. If you have your ID (Drivers License/State ID Card) the process will go quicker and you will be allowed to leave with a warning/lecture, provided you have no outstanding warrants. If you have no ID, the process will take longer. Above all be respectful and courteous to the police. Being a wise ass is of no benefit. You want the police to allow you to leave ASAP, before the news media shows up to video you leaving the AMP.[/QUOTE]


Good elaboration on my previous short post. There's not a lot of guessing as to why anyone would be there in the first place. Yep, you just want to be able to leave and f**k another day.

Wonder if we can work with the MS's and sting the cops that get freebies and try to bust the girls after. The law is the law. You break it, you should serve the time.

V

Been with a few Russians and none of them were as hot as Nika.

Be careful of any named Olga!

[QUOTE=Darkman808]OMG! An AMP full of girls like NIKA! In Sacramento? I have many friends there. Maybe I should plan a trip? Wonder why they have 'settled' there.

What do we have to do to have them spend time out here?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Memahu]A possibility is that they have our photo ID from their security cameras. They might have a scouting report of a customer's tendecies and how much you tip matched with the photo ID. I get the feeling they know which AMPs I've been a repeat customer. Which mamasan is the Bill Belichick of AMPs?[/QUOTE]Someone I know and trust told me several years ago that he was speaking with a member of LE about a bust of a place near Keeaumoku St. He was told the AMP had photos of customers as well as a "book" with what they liked, how much they tipped, etc.

Think about this. When the girl leaves the room to "freshen up" how long does it take her to go insert some K-Y? Sometimes you lay there waiting for 10 minutes or more. What takes so long? Is she in the back room looking you up in the files?

Don Ho

[QUOTE=Stangman808]If you are at an AMP when it gets raided, it is technically a crime scene. The police can legally detain anyone there while they conduct their investigation. They do not have to place you under arrest, but they can detain you. The police will want to ID you and run a check on you for outstanding warrants. If you have your ID (Drivers License/State ID Card) the process will go quicker and you will be allowed to leave with a warning/lecture, provided you have no outstanding warrants. If you have no ID, the process will take longer. Above all be respectful and courteous to the police. Being a wise ass is of no benefit. You want the police to allow you to leave ASAP, before the news media shows up to video you leaving the AMP.[/QUOTE]

I have been at an AMP three times already when LE entered for three different reasons: The first time, they were looking for the boyfriend of one of the workers as he was reported to be hiding out, the police suspected that he may have been in one of the rooms. When they knocked on the door of the room I was in, I said, "howzit?" and the officer told be to just chill in the room and don't come out. The second time, was kind of like a courtesey call to inform the MS and girls that they weren't there to bust them but to operate with caution in the sense that don't be afraid to call 911 if there were any problems occurring in the AMP as LE is there to also protect the girls if any situation gets out of hand. Again, when the officer saw me in the room he was really nice and explained what they were trying to do. The third instance was weird. Apparently one of the girls was causing a lot of problems with the other girls trying to borrow money for her gambling and drug habits. The MS had enough and tried to throw the girl out with all of her belongings. The girl refused to leave, so the MS called the police to have her removed. Again, the officers were cool and even got a chuckle out of the intense verbal exchange between the MS and girl in Korean. In all instances, I was never asked for my ID.

There are also Russian MP's in Baltimore. I never partook because all they did was massage and HJ's! Not into that!

Also, frequented an AMP in Redondo Beach, Ca called RB SPA. The one night I was thinking about going but didn't, they were robbed and two providers were killed! I could have very easily been there that night! Lucky me!

Ladies be careful out there!

Waikikian

[QUOTE=Subway45]I have been at an AMP three times already when LE entered for three different reasons: The first time, they were looking for the boyfriend of one of the workers as he was reported to be hiding out, the police suspected that he may have been in one of the rooms. When they knocked on the door of the room I was in, I said, "howzit? " and the officer told be to just chill in the room and don't come out. The second time, was kind of like a courtesey call to inform the MS and girls that they weren't there to bust them but to operate with caution in the sense that don't be afraid to call 911 if there were any problems occurring in the AMP as LE is there to also protect the girls if any situation gets out of hand. Again, when the officer saw me in the room he was really nice and explained what they were trying to do. The third instance was weird. Apparently one of the girls was causing a lot of problems with the other girls trying to borrow money for her gambling and drug habits. The MS had enough and tried to throw the girl out with all of her belongings. The girl refused to leave, so the MS called the police to have her removed. Again, the officers were cool and even got a chuckle out of the intense verbal exchange between the MS and girl in Korean. In all instances, I was never asked for my ID.[/QUOTE]Brah! You were there three times when LE came in? I was there once at Golden Queen. That was enough to freak me out pretty good. I'm not sure what there were there for. But I was lucky in the sense that no girl was in the room with me(I just got there). They excused me without asking for my ID.

[QUOTE=Subway45]I have been at an AMP three times already when LE entered for three different reasons: The first time, they were looking for the boyfriend of one of the workers as he was reported to be hiding out, the police suspected that he may have been in one of the rooms. When they knocked on the door of the room I was in, I said, "howzit?" and the officer told be to just chill in the room and don't come out. The second time, was kind of like a courtesey call to inform the MS and girls that they weren't there to bust them but to operate with caution in the sense that don't be afraid to call 911 if there were any problems occurring in the AMP as LE is there to also protect the girls if any situation gets out of hand. Again, when the officer saw me in the room he was really nice and explained what they were trying to do. The third instance was weird. Apparently one of the girls was causing a lot of problems with the other girls trying to borrow money for her gambling and drug habits. The MS had enough and tried to throw the girl out with all of her belongings. The girl refused to leave, so the MS called the police to have her removed. Again, the officers were cool and even got a chuckle out of the intense verbal exchange between the MS and girl in Korean. In all instances, I was never asked for my ID.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I don't know anyone who has had three encounters with LE at an AMP. The closest I ever came was once as I was leaving the New Yorker. I was walking down the hallway when three officers came running towards me, but they passed the New Yorker and went around the corner to the KB. I think in your three encounters because the police were there on other matters rather than "raiding" the AMP, they were not concerned with the customers. Stay safe and have fun.

Yo,

Her boobs are nice for man made. She liked having them sucked, massaged, licked and then a nice titty fok. Banged her mish then shot on her two new friends again. Felt like a porn star. She's very proud of them!

Not real GFE, but a nice time as always. $50/$150

I did not see Joann there, and didn't ask-is she still there?

Jb

[QUOTE=Dahos77]Saw Apple again. I know there been talk about amazon chicks, and she is definitely one! At least 5'8" prolly 130 with some very nice d's and large tattoo on her left back. Started with a nice massage, CBJ, cg and finish in mish. Was a very nice chat after and shower. Went over time, but she didn't seem to be in a rush. Well return again when I get more $$ cause I really like her boobs. L9/A9/S8. Std dmg .50 house / $.50 Apple.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stangman808]Wow, I don't know anyone who has had three encounters with LE at an AMP. The closest I ever came was once as I was leaving the New Yorker. I was walking down the hallway when three officers came running towards me, but they passed the New Yorker and went around the corner to the KB. I think in your three encounters because the police were there on other matters rather than "raiding" the AMP, they were not concerned with the customers. Stay safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]

I had a close call myself. I had June at VIP a couple of years ago. It was a normal visit and when she was about to give me a CBJ in the room, mama san was just calling for June in Korean at the door in a desperate tone. June obliged and said to me: "I'll be right back". I was like: "What the hell is going on?" While I lie on the bed naked, I was just stroking myself trying to keep myself turned on. Then, June walked into the room saying: "Get dressed the police is here" I was like: "What?!?!?!?!" Crap I was scared! So, I moved quickly putting my clothes on fast and I put on my pants on with no underwear. June was holding my undies and said: "You forgot this" She was giggling of how I was panicking. She seemed more relaxed about it than I was. I sat on the chair not knowing what to do. Then, my friend who also went with me to VIP called my cell phone. It was ringing on the floor as I dropped it while getting dressed. I didn't answer it right away but, finally answered and he said: "Dude, get out of there, vice cops are right outside" Man, more worse I was panicking. June, then stepped out to check and see what's going on. When she came back, she said they were gone. I was so frightened by this whole ordeal that I couldn't follow through with this and I walked out of there with blue balls.

Apparently, the cops were there looking for a drug bust in that area. While I was walking out, there were guys coming into VIP as though nothing happened.

[QUOTE=Jbravo]I did not see Joann there, and didn't ask-is she still there?

Jb[/QUOTE]

I peeked in Sakuras just last week Thursday night. I think I may have seen Joanne sitting at the far end. I have not seen or had Joanne myself but, based on what other mongers have described about her, tanned, brown hair and she has boobs? She Japanese? She looks Japanese to me. If this if the Joanne you guys referring to, then yah, she is still there.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater]I had a close call myself. I had June at VIP a couple of years ago. It was a normal visit and when she was about to give me a CBJ in the room, mama san was just calling for June in Korean at the door in a desperate tone. June obliged and said to me: "I'll be right back". I was like: "What the hell is going on?" While I lie on the bed naked, I was just stroking myself trying to keep myself turned on. Then, June walked into the room saying: "Get dressed the police is here" I was like: "What?!?!?!?!" Crap I was scared! So, I moved quickly putting my clothes on fast and I put on my pants on with no underwear. June was holding my undies and said: "You forgot this" She was giggling of how I was panicking. She seemed more relaxed about it than I was. I sat on the chair not knowing what to do. Then, my friend who also went with me to VIP called my cell phone. It was ringing on the floor as I dropped it while getting dressed. I didn't answer it right away but, finally answered and he said: "Dude, get out of there, vice cops are right outside" Man, more worse I was panicking. June, then stepped out to check and see what's going on. When she came back, she said they were gone. I was so frightened by this whole ordeal that I couldn't follow through with this and I walked out of there with blue balls.

Apparently, the cops were there looking for a drug bust in that area. While I was walking out, there were guys coming into VIP as though nothing happened.[/QUOTE]So did the mama give you back a refund for "Code Blue"? If not, they should have given you a "rain check" to make up all that lost time and anxiety. Maybe a two-for-one special with the option to "hand cuff" her since she got a laugh out of it.

[QUOTE=Donho]Someone I know and trust told me several years ago that he was speaking with a member of LE about a bust of a place near Keeaumoku St. He was told the AMP had photos of customers as well as a "book" with what they liked, how much they tipped, etc.

Think about this. When the girl leaves the room to "freshen up" how long does it take her to go insert some K-Y? Sometimes you lay there waiting for 10 minutes or more. What takes so long? Is she in the back room looking you up in the files?

Don Ho[/QUOTE]
It probably was Perfect 10 they check IDs and do god knows what with it for a few minutes in the back.