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Hello Gents!!

Long time USASG member but a month into the Sugarbaby Seeking Arrangements game. A rookie for sure, hoping I can get some advice from any of you Veteran Sugar Daddys, please *.

Met a few girls already in the 1 month, all fun times.

Random questions not sure if anyone knows the answer. Met a SB last Saturday night, had a bottle of wine at the beach, got a BBBJCIM cute 20 yr old. Got some food after, all good. Have not talked to her since but when I look at her profile shows her last log in Feb 22nd. Does that mean if you can't see their last log-in date change, they blocked you? Or simply she's not been online all week.

Other question, I posted a few pictures in my profile with me and past girls I dated in other countries. Just figured that would disarm them even more if pics with cute girls, a bad idea? Anyone else has that? Maybe I'll delete them.

The last question is one I get the most, "what are you looking for"? I usually say a girl to meet up with to see if we vibe / connect and if so, someone to take on day trip adventures, spoil and make her life a little easier. Curious if you guys can share any better comebacks for the main question most of them always ask. Then comes the PPM talk, etc. I tell them I won't discuss money until we meet, but I'm open to new advice. Definitely takes time to weed through the scams and pros, and also taking it to text and talking, etc. Definitely I agree in all the posts I've seen here where you guys say it takes some work. I had a few girls flake really good. They call, talk on the phone, sound hot, nice pics, agree to meet in a day or two, then boom, silence LOL!! The crazy world this bowl.

Any advice for a rookie is appreciated.

Stay safe.

AD.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5241156]Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too![/QUOTE]I've friend jumped a few different SBs. They ask if I know anyone that that might want to meet their friend, and I say, yeah. Me. Works pretty well as long as your SB isn't jealous. The ones I've had aren't as long as they still get their end.

[QUOTE=Alkalinedio;5241182]Hello Gents!!

Long time USASG member but a month into the Sugarbaby Seeking Arrangements game. A rookie for sure, hoping I can get some advice from any of you Veteran Sugar Daddys, please *.

Met a few girls already in the 1 month, all fun times.

Random questions not sure if anyone knows the answer. Met a SB last Saturday night, had a bottle of wine at the beach, got a BBBJCIM cute 20 yr old. Got some food after, all good. Have not talked to her since but when I look at her profile shows her last log in Feb 22nd. Does that mean if you can't see their last log-in date change, they blocked you? Or simply she's not been online all week.

Other question, I posted a few pictures in my profile with me and past girls I dated in other countries. Just figured that would disarm them even more if pics with cute girls, a bad idea? Anyone else has that? Maybe I'll delete them.

The last question is one I get the most, "what are you looking for"? I usually say a girl to meet up with to see if we vibe / connect and if so, someone to take on day trip adventures, spoil and make her life a little easier. Curious if you guys can share any better comebacks for the main question most of them always ask. Then comes the PPM talk, etc. I tell them I won't discuss money until we meet, but I'm open to new advice. Definitely takes time to weed through the scams and pros, and also taking it to text and talking, etc. Definitely I agree in all the posts I've seen here where you guys say it takes some work. I had a few girls flake really good. They call, talk on the phone, sound hot, nice pics, agree to meet in a day or two, then boom, silence LOL!! The crazy world this bowl.

Any advice for a rookie is appreciated.

Stay safe.

AD.[/QUOTE]First answer, she just didn't log in. If she blocked you, you would know it because the profile wouldn't be visible to you at all. That's very common, most girls who are not pros aren't hanging around that site too often, they aren't trying to make a full time career of it. They just want to date 2-3 dudes with some money on occasion, not fuck random johns every night.

2nd answer, showing past girlfriends in your profile is about as dumb as them showing past boyfriends in theirs. It has never ever had the effect of making you seem more desirable or safe, just makes you look like a douche. Keep it simple, just show yourself and if you really want to them to swoon for you then take a picture with a cute pet, oldest and most reliable trick in the book.

3rd answer, you mostly nailed it. The part about spoiling their rotten asses and going on "adventures" is exactly what they want to hear. The only thing is, if THEY bring up the topic of PPM then you do need to give them a figure. For a lot of girls if you refuse to talk numbers upfront then they assume you're a game player who's just trying to date hot chicks without paying up the cash. That assumption is usually correct so I wouldn't blame them. Money talks, don't forget that's this is about. Also yeah girls flake in this business, it just comes with the territory. 60% of the time or more expect a no-show, this is why you never go "all in" on getting too excited about an upcoming session. Guys flake just as much, it's game players all the way around until you find the serious people.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5241156]Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too![/QUOTE]It's more common than you think. Nothing to worry about there, it's not an agency so just flow with it.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5241917]First answer, she just didn't log in. If she blocked you, you would know it because the profile wouldn't be visible to you at all. That's very common, most girls who are not pros aren't hanging around that site too often, they aren't trying to make a full time career of it. They just want to date 2-3 dudes with some money on occasion, not fuck random johns every night.

2nd answer, showing past girlfriends in your profile is about as dumb as them showing past boyfriends in theirs. It has never ever had the effect of making you seem more desirable or safe, just makes you look like a douche. Keep it simple, just show yourself and if you really want to them to swoon for you then take a picture with a cute pet, oldest and most reliable trick in the book.

3rd answer, you mostly nailed it. The part about spoiling their rotten asses and going on "adventures" is exactly what they want to hear. The only thing is, if THEY bring up the topic of PPM then you do need to give them a figure. For a lot of girls if you refuse to talk numbers upfront then they assume you're a game player who's just trying to date hot chicks without paying up the cash. That assumption is usually correct so I wouldn't blame them. Money talks, don't forget that's this is about. Also yeah girls flake in this business, it just comes with the territory. 60% of the time or more expect a no-show, this is why you never go "all in" on getting too excited about an upcoming session. Guys flake just as much, it's game players all the way around until you find the serious people.

It's more common than you think. Nothing to worry about there, it's not an agency so just flow with it.[/QUOTE]Listen to Goodboy. The force is strong with him.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5241156]Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too![/QUOTE]It depends. There are some pro girls who try to fly below the radar after FOSTA made it difficult to operate openly on other sites. Others are semi pro / UTR girls who've done arrangements for years with a girlfriend. I've come across some wild bisexual girls whose friends, sorority sisters, or roommates thought I was cute and also wanted to meet me, either on follow up dates, or in one of my fave experiences, the same night.

A few years ago a cute 19 yo girl I was talking to wanted to meet me but seemingly flaked at the last minute, on the day of our date. I had already booked a room at the Hollywood Roosevelt, checking in at 3 pm, and began to follow up on my backup roster to make the most of the afternoon. By 5 pm I managed to convince a hot dirty blonde 20 year old who worked down the street to meet up for dinner; as we hit it off we went to my room, where I inseminated her super tight pussy for hours (we banged multiple times for weeks after that night). After she leaves by 11 pm, I check my phone, and see a message from the girl who I assumed had flaked, saying she had talked about me with her 18 yo friend, who wanted to meet me, and they convinced each other to share me! After a brief convo I set up an Uber from their apartment in Fairfax, and bring them to my hotel.

By midnight both show up and within minutes, one is sucking on my shaft while the other is sucking my balls; one is riding me cowgirl while the other sits on my face. I cum inside them both, and watch them rub their creampied pussies together into a froth and lick each other's creamed pussies clean. GOD. DAMN. What a night.

Great advice, well taken and noted!

Advice on the first answer is good intel. I'm starting to notice that too, lots of them don't log in often so I'm getting them to text / phone pretty much quick as possible to keep it warm.

Your spot on.

Yea I took down the pics with the girls a few days ago and all good. Getting used to playing higher volume in terms of how many girls I talk to, to allow for the flake factor and odds of one coming through.

Much appreciated! And stay safe everyone.

AD.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5241917]First answer, she just didn't log in. If she blocked you, you would know it because the profile wouldn't be visible to you at all. That's very common, most girls who are not pros aren't hanging around that site too often, they aren't trying to make a full time career of it. They just want to date 2-3 dudes with some money on occasion, not fuck random johns every night.

2nd answer, showing past girlfriends in your profile is about as dumb as them showing past boyfriends in theirs. It has never ever had the effect of making you seem more desirable or safe, just makes you look like a douche. Keep it simple, just show yourself and if you really want to them to swoon for you then take a picture with a cute pet, oldest and most reliable trick in the book.

3rd answer, you mostly nailed it. The part about spoiling their rotten asses and going on "adventures" is exactly what they want to hear. The only thing is, if THEY bring up the topic of PPM then you do need to give them a figure. For a lot of girls if you refuse to talk numbers upfront then they assume you're a game player who's just trying to date hot chicks without paying up the cash. That assumption is usually correct so I wouldn't blame them. Money talks, don't forget that's this is about. Also yeah girls flake in this business, it just comes with the territory. 60% of the time or more expect a no-show, this is why you never go "all in" on getting too excited about an upcoming session. Guys flake just as much, it's game players all the way around until you find the serious people.

It's more common than you think. Nothing to worry about there, it's not an agency so just flow with it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5243095]It depends. There are some pro girls who try to fly below the radar after FOSTA made it difficult to operate openly on other sites. Others are semi pro / UTR girls who've done arrangements for years with a girlfriend. I've come across some wild bisexual girls whose friends, sorority sisters, or roommates thought I was cute and also wanted to meet me, either on follow up dates, or in one of my fave experiences, the same night.

A few years ago a cute 19 yo girl I was talking to wanted to meet me but seemingly flaked at the last minute, on the day of our date. I had already booked a room at the Hollywood Roosevelt, checking in at 3 pm, and began to follow up on my backup roster to make the most of the afternoon. By 5 pm I managed to convince a hot dirty blonde 20 year old who worked down the street to meet up for dinner; as we hit it off we went to my room, where I inseminated her super tight pussy for hours (we banged multiple times for weeks after that night). After she leaves by 11 pm, I check my phone, and see a message from the girl who I assumed had flaked, saying she had talked about me with her 18 yo friend, who wanted to meet me, and they convinced each other to share me! After a brief convo I set up an Uber from their apartment in Fairfax, and bring them to my hotel.

By midnight both show up and within minutes, one is sucking on my shaft while the other is sucking my balls; one is riding me cowgirl while the other sits on my face. I cum inside them both, and watch them rub their creampied pussies together into a froth and lick each other's creamed pussies clean. GOD. DAMN. What a night.[/QUOTE]Lucky. I never find one that allows cip. I normally ask when I'm almost there, but they say no. Do you ask or you just do it?

Well, the girl is going to be rip shit if she is not on bc and you may regret it paying child support for 18 years. If she is not on bc, then she still might be rip shit depending on her preferences which is usually blowing your load on her body except face and pussy, which in that case might make her even more upset. Best thing to do is be safe and clarify everything beforehand.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5243711]Lucky. I never find one that allows cip. I normally ask when I'm almost there, but they say no. Do you ask or you just do it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JDeller;5243869]Well, the girl is going to be rip shit if she is not on bc and you may regret it paying child support for 18 years. If she is not on bc, then she still might be rip shit depending on her preferences which is usually blowing your load on her body except face and pussy, which in that case might make her even more upset. Best thing to do is be safe and clarify everything beforehand.[/QUOTE]Well, look, if you aren't exercising operational security and keeping your real identity from the SB, that's your own fault. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you should be irresponsible about that. In my own case, I have a SO and don't mind safes, so I am not looking for BB. However, at the M&G I always talk to the POT about broken condoms and if she'd be willing to use Plan B if that happened. It has never happened to me and I am a dinosaur.

So my SB of going on 4 months wants to change up our arrangement. Instead of the generous monthly allowance I am currently giving her, she is willing to forgo her allowance for the next 2-3 months and instead have me pay for plastic surgery (breast augmentation). She's already a DD cup but she wants to upgrade to DDD. Since this has some inherit benefit to me, and the net cost to me is the same, I'm inclined to say yes. Anyone ever dealt with this situation? Probably worth mentioning that I've done quite a bit of my own investigating on this woman's background and, as far as I can tell, she seems like a fundamentally decent person. I also got around to raiding her medicine cabinet and other places where she may store pharmaceuticals, and oddly enough couldn't find anything. Not sure any of these details matter, but thoughts on this scenario are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

I am not understanding your point. Keeping your identity is a given. The original comment had to do with the issue of communicating cip before the deed. I really don't see much upside and a whole lot of down side from a stealth sperm injection. By the second date, most SBs are going to let you do BBFS or bbfscip if all goes well on 1st date anyway.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5244044]Well, look, if you aren't exercising operational security and keeping your real identity from the SB, that's your own fault. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you should be irresponsible about that. In my own case, I have a SO and don't mind safes, so I am not looking for BB. However, at the M&G I always talk to the POT about broken condoms and if she'd be willing to use Plan B if that happened. It has never happened to me and I am a dinosaur.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JDeller;5244496]I am not understanding your point. Keeping your identity is a given. The original comment had to do with the issue of communicating cip before the deed. I really don't see much upside and a whole lot of down side from a stealth sperm injection. By the second date, most SBs are going to let you do BBFS or bbfscip if all goes well on 1st date anyway.[/QUOTE]You just said he would be paying child support. He wouldn't be if he had not given up his real identity to the SB.

With respect to the rest of your post, I'll just say that there are a wide variety of ways to interact w / SBs, and a wide array of SBs to interact with. You're fishing in a different pond with a different rig than me.

I don't post often unless I have something to contribute. Years ago I saw a single mom for massage at her apt. Usually ended in BBBJCIM. Saw her twice a month for over a year. She was as normal as normal can be. Good mom, no drugs, drank socially. She needed some new appliances. I told her I'd pay for them as an advance on her massages. Worked out for a month then suddenly her "schedule" got busy and she couldn't make time for our sessions. Clawing and scratching we went another month and I finally threw in the towel. It wasn't worth the hassle. The ghosting, the last minute cancellations, the excuses. There's my story. I will never pay upfront again. I don't care if she's the fuck of a lifetime. Too many women out there to enjoy.

[QUOTE=VinoVeritas034;5244133]So my SB of going on 4 months wants to change up our arrangement. Instead of the generous monthly allowance I am currently giving her, she is willing to forgo her allowance for the next 2-3 months and instead have me pay for plastic surgery (breast augmentation). She's already a DD cup but she wants to upgrade to DDD. Since this has some inherit benefit to me, and the net cost to me is the same, I'm inclined to say yes. Anyone ever dealt with this situation? Probably worth mentioning that I've done quite a bit of my own investigating on this woman's background and, as far as I can tell, she seems like a fundamentally decent person. I also got around to raiding her medicine cabinet and other places where she may store pharmaceuticals, and oddly enough couldn't find anything. Not sure any of these details matter, but thoughts on this scenario are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5245005]You just said he would be paying child support. He wouldn't be if he had not given up his real identity to the SB.

With respect to the rest of your post, I'll just say that there are a wide variety of ways to interact w / SBs, and a wide array of SBs to interact with. You're fishing in a different pond with a different rig than me.[/QUOTE]Pregnancy brings a whole new level of bullshit, and while we can go on and on about airtight "opsec," you better have been anonymous with the girl. If you checked into a hotel, whether she knows your name or not, I promise she can get a lawyer and track you down. Same with a burner phone, unless you use something like Mysudo that doesn't attribute a number or PII.

That said, I wouldn't want to know or think there's a kid out there that's mine and isn't cared for appropriately. But then again, I made sure a few years back that I can't make babies anymore.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5241156]Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too![/QUOTE]Yes, I have. Like IRL its kinda weird. I was in a LTR with a SB and out of nowhere she said 'so, I've got this friend. ' I actually turned it down because her friend was a 8/10 body but a 3/10 face. A friend of mine on SA had the same thing happen. The real problem if you go forward with it is compensation.