"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Well, we met as planned and her pics were 100% accurate. She was stunning and a great conversationalist! She had been hurt in prior relationships and was carrying a great deal of baggage. It became apparent to me that she was searching for much more than a SD. I felt she was looking for a steady BF or worse a new hubby! The fruit was definitely ripe for picking and the spoon was in the sugar but I felt the damage was going to be far beyond $. So, I paid the bill and accepted a hug and a kiss on the cheek and left. I don't know if I'm a monger with a conscience or just a cautious newbie in the bowl. Her looks 8-9, attitude 8 but baggage was priceless! So, I passed but there is always tomorrow...

R2.

[QUOTE=Reffin2;1984544]I recently tried a new site that someone on here mentioned- SDToday. I was admittedly skeptical because it is entirely free to register as a full member. After registering, I quickly received a few responses but they were too far to warrant real attention on my part. Then I started sending messages and one response seems like a possible keeper. So, this afternoon I am going for a meet and greet at a chain restaurant and see if her pics are TGTBT, too much allowance or too much per visit or "the blind squirrel finding the acorn". I am experiencing a variety of emotions from excitement to apprehension. So, we'll see how this goes...

Sunday and Monday I have my 3rd rendezvous with my 20's single mom. This one makes me feel awful young again! Will report of my dreams and encounters and appreciate as always your critique and advice.

R2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reffin2;1985147]Well, we met as planned and her pics were 100% accurate. She was stunning and a great conversationalist! She had been hurt in prior relationships and was carrying a great deal of baggage. It became apparent to me that she was searching for much more than a SD. I felt she was looking for a steady BF or worse a new hubby! The fruit was definitely ripe for picking and the spoon was in the sugar but I felt the damage was going to be far beyond $. So, I paid the bill and accepted a hug and a kiss on the cheek and left. I don't know if I'm a monger with a conscience or just a cautious newbie in the bowl. Her looks 8-9, attitude 8 but baggage was priceless! So, I passed but there is always tomorrow...

R2.[/QUOTE]Girls that need emotional support, mentoring and / or great sex are usually more than happy to take the $ a date offer. It's called a value added proposition. That's all I really look for in a steady girl. Money alone will never get them to be on my "team". To me, a money alone girl is a pro. Not interested. There is no limit to the number of guys she would date at a time. But it would be rare for a true non pro to want to be emotionally connected to more than one guy at a time.

I can't have ongoing awesome sex if there is no emotional connection. The stronger the better.

With a pro, the sex might be amazing the first time but there will be a diminishing rate of return over a very short amount of time because their heart is not in it. The reverse will be true of a non pro.

A mixed Colombian, black and white 20 year old 5' 3' 130 lb very pretty girl I had never met txts me and says she is in my area and can she stop by at 7 pm.

She comes in and I was happily surprised to see a curvy but tight smiling girl go straight to the FC. We fooled around on the bed for about a half hour, kissing and fondling. My dick was out and her firm young B sized breasts felt amazing.

She is coming back Sunday for a 5 hour date. Total damage was one Jackson.

At 8.30 the same night I did a second date with a 22 year old 5' 2 100 lb mixed girl. She is an x high school cheer leading captain trying to make it in hollywood. She looks about 16. We talked in the car for an hour. Hope to see her tonite for a real date. Total damage was the cost of a smoothie.

At 10.30 pm I picked up my new 19 year old art student and took her home for our usual good time. This was our fourth date this month. She keeps getting better and better and she is exclusive to me for now. Took her home at 2.30 am. Total damage was the usual $.

[QUOTE=Reffin2;1985147]Well, we met as planned and her pics were 100% accurate. She was stunning and a great conversationalist! She had been hurt in prior relationships and was carrying a great deal of baggage. It became apparent to me that she was searching for much more than a SD. I felt she was looking for a steady BF or worse a new hubby! The fruit was definitely ripe for picking and the spoon was in the sugar but I felt the damage was going to be far beyond $. So, I paid the bill and accepted a hug and a kiss on the cheek and left. I don't know if I'm a monger with a conscience or just a cautious newbie in the bowl. Her looks 8-9, attitude 8 but baggage was priceless! So, I passed but there is always tomorrow...

R2.[/QUOTE]Reffin, you did the right thing. One of the rules around here is do no harm. When the girl is not on the same page we do harm. Sometimes the harm is to her, sometimes to us.

[QUOTE=Reffin2;1985147]Well, we met as planned and her pics were 100% accurate. She was stunning and a great conversationalist! She had been hurt in prior relationships and was carrying a great deal of baggage. It became apparent to me that she was searching for much more than a SD. I felt she was looking for a steady BF or worse a new hubby! The fruit was definitely ripe for picking and the spoon was in the sugar but I felt the damage was going to be far beyond $. So, I paid the bill and accepted a hug and a kiss on the cheek and left. I don't know if I'm a monger with a conscience or just a cautious newbie in the bowl. Her looks 8-9, attitude 8 but baggage was priceless! So, I passed but there is always tomorrow...

R2.[/QUOTE]Ruffin... I guess I'm more inclined to agree with HG. A SD / SB relationship is always going to have a much higher level of emotional connection than an escort. A lot of these girls in the sites ae looking for a steady emotional strength from a male counterpart, that frankly, they've never experienced before. Your financial well being, experience, mentorship, stability, confidence, and good sexual skill all play a part in her experience and happiness. You could provide a lot of these things for her. When I have been in this situation I have always just done my best to communicate what I can provide so as to not lead her on. This goes to GC's "do no harm". Email her and tell her that you thought she was very pretty and that you really liked her. That you would really like to see her again and spend time together. However, you are not sure you can give her what she is looking for... In my case I then tell them I'm married and have young kids. I am happy with that part of my life and I'm not going to change it. I'm looking for a long term relationship...like BF / GF but without the drama and pressure. What is important to me is that we have adult fun behind closed doors. I can provide steady long term financial help to her that she can count on. If those are things she is ok with then let's get together again. Good luck she sounds like a fun girl. If it adavances throw a pic of her on here. I don't know why we don't have more pics of more SB on here.

I'm heading to Atlanta this week for a few.

Days on business. I'm on the SA site and it looks like there is a LOT of potential there. But I don't have a lot of time to develop contacts and screen pots. If any of you forum members have some profiles to recommend, I would really appreciate a PM with some suggestions.

I'd be glad to return the favor if you are ever in the Northern VA area.

Thanks.

Alias.

[QUOTE=AliasSM;1985962]I'm heading to Atlanta this week for a few.

Days on business. I'm on the SA site and it looks like there is a LOT of potential there. But I don't have a lot of time to develop contacts and screen pots. If any of you forum members have some profiles to recommend, I would really appreciate a PM with some suggestions.

I'd be glad to return the favor if you are ever in the Northern VA area.

Thanks.

Alias.[/QUOTE]I sent you a pm. Feel free to reply and we can talk about the elusive Atl babies LOL.

Promiscuity is My Continuity.

[QUOTE=DumpMyGoo;1985915]If it advances throw a pic of her on here. I don't know why we don't have more pics of more SB on here.[/QUOTE]Escorts looking for business post pics to attract business knowing they can be found by suspicious friends and family using Google and Tin Eye. The SB thing is an entirely different ballgame. Posting a SB's pic would be a severe invasion of privacy leading to serious problems for her down the road. We do no harm.

Just spent about 3 hours, going about 25 pages deep in this thread. Truly some legends in here and appreciate the stories of success as well as learning experiences. I am going to have to spend sometime digging deeper into the sites I have seen mentioned in here. The main issue I run into is lack of available targets. I live in a very small town < 8 k people and it seems a BMI over 30 for most. I have done well on free sites like pof and most recently scored one excellent find on whatsyourprice. She was 23, serious need of some phone bill help. Agreed on $ for a meet which ended in FC for a rather enjoyable oral session. I just opened conversations with a 20 yo that lives about 4 hours away. Will see how that one plays out.

Thanks for the read today guys and I hope to be able to contribute at least 1/10 of guys like HG and revvo.

What does GPS Stand for?

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1986815]Escorts looking for business post pics to attract business knowing they can be found by suspicious friends and family using Google and Tin Eye. The SB thing is an entirely different ballgame. Posting a SB's pic would be a severe invasion of privacy leading to serious problems for her down the road. We do no harm.[/QUOTE]There are ways of posting pics without causing harm. Just blot out part of their face or put up pics that don't show the face at all. I agree that more pics would be nice to see. I have posted some they ae much less an invasion of privacy than the pics these gals post with their ads on the sd sites. Just my 2 cents...

Golden Pussy Syndrome...get it.

[QUOTE=nerd29;1987092]Just spent about 3 hours, going about 25 pages deep in this thread. Truly some legends in here and appreciate the stories of success as well as learning experiences. I am going to have to spend sometime digging deeper into the sites I have seen mentioned in here. The main issue I run into is lack of available targets. I live in a very small town < 8 k people and it seems a BMI over 30 for most. I have done well on free sites like pof and most recently scored one excellent find on whatsyourprice. She was 23, serious need of some phone bill help. Agreed on $ for a meet which ended in FC for a rather enjoyable oral session. I just opened conversations with a 20 yo that lives about 4 hours away. Will see how that one plays out.

Thanks for the read today guys and I hope to be able to contribute at least 1/10 of guys like HG and revvo.

What does GPS Stand for?[/QUOTE]

I thought it was an app that teen girls used to find dick.

First I must say welcome Nerd. And my best advice is to read the entire thread. And then write up your reports. A lot. If you think you are protecting yourself by not reporting. Keeping all the good secret. The opposite is true. You are depriving yourself of the learning experience of learning by writing your adventures down. It is by far the single most important tool in learning I have. Also I must say the underpopulated areas can be some of the best. You don't have the competition of the goofballs out there offering these POTs huge amounts of money for pussy of no real value. In the rural areas the picking might be slim. But hey you only need one or two good ones.

So there has been some interesting goings on since I have last reported. For one. I went through quite a bit of downtime during the holiday break. One because I was with Family most of the time. But also was not getting a lot of bites from my POTs. It was a bit disconcerting. But I realized after some time that maybe I was hangning on a little too tight and needed to step back. This was great advice from a friend. I came back and had some real strong success.

PeurtoRican Tat baby. She is still around. Not a good communicator but really hot looking. And she is there and we are using her place so that helps a lot. But she is only 19 YO and she is hot 10/9/7/5. She is a terrible kisser and even worse in the skills department. I am being patient. But I don't know how long. She promises me she is giving me 250% full devotion. Her words. But so far I have not seen it. Remember do not look at what they say look at what they do. And so far actions have been weak. She is really cool very sweet. Seems honest. But I gots to get me some good luvin. But I am working on three no cost babies below. That are making me forget this one real quick.

Italian Legal Aid: She is by far the one that treats me the best. She has been off the charts sweet to me. And really really attracted to me. She is 40 YO Latina, very smart very sexy looking give her a 8/7/10/? . So far we have not made it to the FC but she is all about going but has been very honest and direct with me about it. That she needs time and then she will be good to go. She promises she will rock my world. She is cool. She is a great communicator, she has big sexy natural titties. Long dark wild hair, a very sexxy accent. And she is not into the money at all. But we do have to use a hotel. I already checked. But I am very optimistic. If you see my earlier reports on her you know she was a long term project anyway. Just longer term than I figured. We are set to meet for Thursday night. It may be the moment of truth.

Eastern European MILF Baby: This one contacted me last week and she seemed a little negative. But in no time I got her warmed up and good to go. She had just been through a few disappointments. We still have not met. But that is because she is a newly divorced MILF and is still getting her feet under her. We talk and text every day. She is a professional with her own place and car and a young son. But her ex is in the picture and can watch the kid on a regular basis. This is good for us. And it looks like she will be able to host at her place. She is a 40 YO MILF dark hair dark eyes very very sexy look so far I give her a 8/8/8/? . She looks like in some of the photos she has some nice titties. She is really warming up to me. And she is set to meet me this Wednesday for Happy Hour. Things should go good. Great communicator and she is just looking for a man of substance, to have fun and adventure and travel with. She is not really all about the money. Just someone who is not cheap when they go out. This is easy man. That is exactly what I am looking for. Another one with a sexy voice that eastern European accent is fine.

Sexy Pinup MILF: This one contacted me just last Wednesday and we have been chatting since then. She warmed up real quick. And she is very very sexy. She is not your typical model. She has lots of tats, she is 40 ish, and is very much a buxom betty boop type of pinup model. But man is she sexy. She lives in a artsy part of town. She is an artsy type. And we set up today to meet. Met her this afternoon at a coffee shop. Then took a walk around a beautiful lake. Had some great eye contact then some good conversation. And within 45 minutes of our first face to face we were totally making out on a park bench in some of the most perfect weather. It was all I could do not to jump her right there. She even said she wishes we had a place to go. But I did not have time to rent a hotel. And her roommate was home. So we are planning for Wednesday for a full fledged FC session. Damn it is hard to describe the curves on this woman but she is not skinny, and how sexy she is. She exudes sexuality and sensuality out every pore and she is very cool. No games no bullshit. This is a quality woman. I give her a 9/8/10/? . Her kissing skills were awesome. Her skin is perfect and so soft. Oh and she is moving into her own place in mid Feb. And is all about meeting there. Which is really cool. I did not even need to mention using her place. She just wants someone to pamper her and take care of her a little. Not looking for tons of money. She has her own money. Not a lot of money she drives a scooter and works for a living. And she can get away in the daytime. Which is a big plus.

None of these three 40 ish MILFs is perfect 10 type hotties. None of them are skinny. But on the other hand. Conversations personalities, humor, level headedness with no Drama is fucking awesome. These women are of such high quality. And none of them would cost me as much as the one 19 YO Tat baby above.

I am feeling much less pressure and I feel so much more comfortable with these quality women. The 19 YO has really got to step it up for me to keep her. I could take what I am spending on her and spread it out on the three others and not spend a penny more. There are some other POTs and some stories of fat chicks and liars. But we will just have to save that for another time.

Be careful out there.

Revvo.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1987456]

None of these three 40 ish MILFs is perfect 10 type hotties. None of them are skinny. But on the other hand. Conversations personalities, humor, level headedness with no Drama is fucking awesome. These women are of such high quality.
Revvo.[/QUOTE]Although I'm new to the sugar game, one thing I've noticed is that personality is way more important than looks. With an escort, they leave after the sex, so if they are completely dull it's not a big deal. But with a sugar baby, you're going on dates and spending time with them and if the chemistry isn't there you'll regret it. One in particular was very hot, but also very young. We did not click, but I wanted to bang her so bad. After the deed was done I just wanted her out of there, and from that point on I made the decision to let things develop more slowly so that I can be sure I'm attracted to more than just their looks. It definitely adds to the excitement when I know I'm getting to have sex with a woman that I can connect with on at least a somewhat deep level.