Exactly. If you say you got a massage and nothing else how can they prove it unless the lady comes in and testifies against you.
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Exactly. If you say you got a massage and nothing else how can they prove it unless the lady comes in and testifies against you.
[QUOTE=ziggle;1468123]Exactly. If you say you got a massage and nothing else how can they prove it unless the lady comes in and testifies against you.[/QUOTE]It is never a good idea to lie. You need to refer anyone to your attorney and talking is NOT a good idea. Keep in mind. You have a first amendment right to not say anything. And your attorney can help from that point on. But lying can have far worse consequences than refusing to talk.
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1467843]I called the agent in charge of this entire operation and told him I would come down and meet him in person and give him every detail about what goes on in the spas. I told him I knew the ins-and-outs, names, employees, dates, times, everything. Any possible piece of info they were looking for to shut those places down, I had it and was willing to share with him. Guess what? He really didn't give a shit. They have all the info they need. This was a WHOLE YEAR investigation. With over 30 sworn witness affidavits, how many more do you think they need? Every single person in town knew exactly what went on in these spas. 30 or so customers confirming the suspicions of the police is more than overwhelming confirmation. So yeah, Jeep may have been right about the places being watched and being raided, but you'd be stupid if you didn't think that was all inevitable anyway. It sure as fuck wasn't some diabolical bomb-drop when the feds showed up with warrants. So believe whatever you want, I am not too worried about some cops knocking on my door to chat with me about my spa visits. If they did show up, you do what any smart person would do. Ask them to leave, and contact an attorney, or refer them to your attorney like I would.[/QUOTE]Now that some of the women are talking about sex slavery, the FBI is now involved and so there is now even more investigations going on.
Plus they want more info on the owners of the spas so they can be tracked down and money gotten from them.
Don't kid yourself. The feds are now sticking their noses into this more now than before as they are listening to what some of the women are saying.
And if you did call the agent in charge, what was his name? I'd like to talk to him myself.
[QUOTE=Bookmaker; 1468131]Keep in mind. You have a first amendment right to not say anything.
It's actually the Fifth Amendment. Don't want to look stupid in front of the cops invoking the First Amendment LOL.
[QUOTE=Cleveland Report;1463573]Affidavits will not serve as evidence. They need live witnesses. Who will come forward?[/QUOTE]The attorney for the spas will get his chance to put these people on the stand on this day. They will be publicly identified and grilled very intensely I suspect. As Jeep and all of his faith valued friends and the city of Warren And Mike D know the spas will fight this very vigorously.
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468150]Now that some of the women are talking about sex slavery, the FBI is now involved and so there is now even more investigations going on.
Plus they want more info on the owners of the spas so they can be tracked down and money gotten from them.
Don't kid yourself. The feds are now sticking their noses into this more now than before as they are listening to what some of the women are saying.
And if you did call the agent in charge, what was his name? I'd like to talk to him myself.[/QUOTE]If you want to talk to him Jeep he will be in Warren court 6-18-12 at 9AM testifying. Are you going to tell him how having all kinds of kinky sex all night in Warren caused you to have that terrible accident on I76 and then you saw that light?
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1467605]Don't be foolish. The pressure from the LEO is intense and they will get what they want. You are letting your little head in your pants think for your other head.
As far as being illegal to go into any of the spas that have been shut down, it is now!
How is it that knowing that it is probably best to not talk to the police or law enforcement without a lawyer, that many did talk? I can tell you. They went to their homes or where they worked and asked questions. Nothing like having a wife or children asking questions about where all the money was going. Or having a boss ask what the police wanted with you.
Pressure. Pressure. That is what they do to get you to talk.[/QUOTE]Jeep
I am so happy that you were here to warn us all. You are so smart. It's as if you had a cystal ball. We all should bow down to you, your IQ and your ability to predict the future. Keep patting yourself on the back and continue your fear mongering.
[QUOTE=Textb001; 1468427]Jeep.
I am so happy that you were here to warn us all. You are so smart. It's as if you had a cystal ball. We all should bow down to you, your IQ and your ability to predict the future. Keep patting yourself on the back and continue your fear mongering.[/QUOTE]Let the Jeepster have his day. He's like a debutante at the ball. Walking around with a hard-on 24/7! Now he's branched off into warning about BP and CL. Telling the Jeepster to shut up is like telling the sun not to rise. Even a broke clock is right twice a day.
All hail the might Jeepster! We are not worthy to be in your presence!
[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468150]Now that some of the women are talking about sex slavery, the FBI is now involved and so there is now even more investigations going on.
Plus they want more info on the owners of the spas so they can be tracked down and money gotten from them.
Don't kid yourself. The feds are now sticking their noses into this more now than before as they are listening to what some of the women are saying.
And if you did call the agent in charge, what was his name? I'd like to talk to him myself.[/QUOTE]Why don't you tell us the actual jail time (no prison time just local jail time) after all the charges were plea bargained down. Also how many spa customers during that 2 year time that cameras were in use by the FBI and local police were charged the terrible charge of visiting a spa? The suspect charge of human trafficking was used here also but of course just a false assumption, correct Jeep?
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Textb001; 1468427]Jeep.
I am so happy that you were here to warn us all. You are so smart. It's as if you had a cystal ball. We all should bow down to you, your IQ and your ability to predict the future. Keep patting yourself on the back and continue your fear mongering.[/QUOTE]They always killed the prophets.
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1468594]Why don't you tell us the actual jail time (no prison time just local jail time) after all the charges were plea bargained down. Also how many spa customers during that 2 year time that cameras were in use by the FBI and local police were charged the terrible charge of visiting a spa? The suspect charge of human trafficking was used here also but of course just a false assumption, correct Jeep?
Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here.
There have been spa mongers who have been jailed in other crackdowns around the country in order to get them to talk. There was jail time for some spa mongers in Nashville, TN when they shut down the spas. The spa mongers eventually spilled their guts and they were released. But the damage was done and they were on the way to divorce and loss of job as they were incarcerated.
[QUOTE=Jeep56;1468722]They always killed the prophets.[/QUOTE]Congrats, you were finally right, only took a few years. Now where will you go with life? Actually get a job? Move out of mom's basement? Get a real girlfriend? Now go wipe the cumstains off your bible and go after real crime. Some prophet.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1467805]Flex Club! I wonder if SU21 AKA The Lunker has been there!
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]Haha. For somebody with always something to say, he remains strangely quite on that subject.
And Jeepster,"sodomites", really? How do you type and handle snakes at the same time?
[QUOTE=Samo38;1468887]Congrats, you were finally right, only took a few years. Now where will you go with life? Actually get a job? Move out of mom's basement? Get a real girlfriend? Now go wipe the cumstains off your bible and go after real crime. Some prophet.[/QUOTE]Well said Samo. The best quote about Jeep that I have seen referring to Jeeps predictions is "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" I wonder what cause the ol' Jeepstr will take up now? Maybe some regulars on this forum can help him with some suggestions to fill his very lonely nights. Jeep. You have been a pimple on the anus of life.
[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468856]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here.
There have been spa mongers who have been jailed in other crackdowns around the country in order to get them to talk. There was jail time for some spa mongers in Nashville, TN when they shut down the spas. The spa mongers eventually spilled their guts and they were released. But the damage was done and they were on the way to divorce and loss of job as they were incarcerated.[/QUOTE]Do you have a fucking CLUE when it comes to the law? There is no way in the giant blue fuck any spa visitors were "jailed until they spilled their guts" because some cops were trying to get at higher-ups. They will get there through the spa employees and mamasans, not the patrons. Every once in a while you say something and I think to myself that you may actually be close to a point, and then you say some shit like this and all home goes straight out the fucking window. Seriously dude, you should be banned purely for the amount of fabricated fear-inducing garbage you post. Or this should be like Wikipedia, where you actually need to cite examples, proof, backing, something to substantiate the random shit that tumbles from your mouth.