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[QUOTE=Mtron;7113262]Hi. Visiting for the holiday. I see a lot of mention of Good, Tokyo, and Bliss. I was wondering if someone could help me with some address info for the three. PM is fine.[/QUOTE]They're all in Renton and addresses are on Google and rubmaps.
[QUOTE=Kseven;7112921]Anyone know where to get a rub and tug from a white girl in this city?[/QUOTE]Back in the day, Sacred Temple was the go-to place for this. A former, fantastic resource for what you seek. As Joni Mitchell sang, ". You don't know what you've got til it's gone. ".
More recently there was a spa in the Renton Highlands that offered a variety of providers from different racial backgrounds, including white women. And there was a place in Seattle, the Georgetown Collective, that had a variety of women of difference races. I haven't seen or heard anything about them in a long time. Prices at both locations were higher than AMPs, and not a good match for me.
New Spa in Everett purports to have one or more white providers. But your best bet might be to find an independent, white provider.
If you find an EMP in Seattle, please share!
Although it occasionally refutes some of Enigma's findings and reporting below, this article (focused on the estimated $4. 5 B illicit massage industry) generally [B]supports most of Enigma's post[/B].
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2021/04/04/inside-the-45-billion-erotic-massage-parlor-economy/[/URL]
A related topic, probably better addressed in the Rants and Raves thread, is the question of whether sex workers are [I]coerced[/I]: there's a difference between physical coercion and financial coercion. And one person's financial coercion might be another person's financial opportunity. Frankly, I sometimes struggle with that one.
[QUOTE=Enigma;7092989]I have visited all of these associated AMPs now, a handful of times. I've intentionally not reported on the last several trips because I have been able to candidly interview one of the girls and I wanted to share some of what I've learned as it would relate to us the customers. In case this gets interpreted as a violation of trust I am protecting both my own identity and the identity of the girl who was so forthcoming with me.
We've heard stories of beatings (not with these particular AMPs), bait and switch job offers, trip to America but now you have to 'pay off your debt', otherwise unethical sex trafficking. Some of us don't care and I don't judge. Some prefer to locate women to have hobby with where it is not coercive.
I've learned that these AMPs are of the 'not coercive' type. Scouting for the girls takes place in China, generally in poorer villages. The girls are all adults. They are fully aware of what the job in America entails. There was no coercive 'boyfriend', no drug addiction issue, no leaning on them. The carrot on the stick is the promise to be able to escape the poverty they would otherwise be facing, a chance to elevate their status and their families.
They are asked to make a two year commitment, then return to their lives in China with a ton of cash to set themselves and their family up to prosper. I did not get a 'what if she decides to go home early' clear answer and the girl I talked to did not know anyone who tried. Seemed put off by the question more of a 'why would someone not want to they are already here this is a huge financial opportunity they won't find back home' mentality.
They also take pride in their work. Reminded me of geisha work. They all tend to enjoy sexual activity and you see that in the service they provide. Based on the readings on this forum, seems the only way they slip is when they get focused on volume of customers and turning around much faster. Leading to the 'rushed' complaints. I think opening additional locations is designed to address that issue. The girl I interviewed says she loves sex and she has a once in a lifetime chance to make a lot of money having sex. Dream job for her.
That should help explain a question I think all of us had about how these AMPs popped up where the women are absolutely beautiful and the service at a very high quality (most of the time) with no upselling beyond the '4 hands' offer.
All of that said (and this concludes the interview part). We know their operation goes across state lines (Florida, California, etc.). With the volume of traffic, even with the ladies being able to keep a good chunk of the $$ they earn, somebody here in the US is getting rich. If it does attract attention, it would likely be not local LE but the feds (FBI, etc.). Situational awareness is critical here. Someone asked about the cameras. My girl did not know but may be worth people continuing to question whether that data is on the cloud somewhere. Wearing a hat, not looking up in the exposed areas, not parking right out front are all prudent precautions. If you've shared your # with any of them I hope it is a burner. Check this site the day of if you plan to visit, just in case someone is able to alert the hobbyist community. I doubt they would take the time to bust a bunch of johns (they'd be concerned about the large amounts of cash instead) but you never know.
Enjoy this while it lasts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bfm66;7113122]I have had FIA with a couple, but was wondering if any of the Good / Shanghai / One girls were open to Greek?[/QUOTE]The few times I saw her at Shanghai she took a thumb in her ass and acted quite pleased. Pretty sure Greek was on her menu given her fondness of digits in her butthole.
The financial coercion is an interesting one as that also applies to working in an Amazon distribution center, harvesting crops, cleaning people's houses, so on and so forth. They may not want to be doing that job, but they have to. That's a tough morale position to hold here in the USA As most of the workforce is financially coerced. Hell, I'm financially coerced in my job.
Saw Sindy at good. She's still awesome and rocked my world. Acted like every idea I had was her favorite thing ever. Just perfect. She says she takes extra good care of "Big Monkey friends" and I believe her.
It was quiet so after hung a bit with Pink, Sindy, and Vincci in the kitchen. They are all just as hot with the lights on. This lineup is there today and tomorrow. Dec 1 Sindy goes to One Spa. Pink will be a top girl somewhere and Vincci is moving into my guest house. 😂.
Last bit isn't true but a man can dream.
Seriously tho. This is a solid trio this month.
[QUOTE=Bfm66;7113122]I have had FIA with a couple, but was wondering if any of the Good / Shanghai / One girls were open to Greek?[/QUOTE]Megan who used to be at Tokyo I think she's at lolibee in Tacoma no she did a great Greek session.
This is my first time to visit this forum. Any suggestion regarding spas in Seattle. I'm into Asians.
Pepsi is no longer at Eurotouch.
[QUOTE=Conqueror;7114749]This is my first time to visit this forum. Any suggestion regarding spas in Seattle. I'm into Asians.[/QUOTE]Bro, you've been posting in the SEA and TAC massage forums since 2023. Your post count is 9, which means youve visited at least 8 times prior. You even asked this same thing exactly one year ago this week.
Want an Asian? Find any AMP discussed here, walk in, put down 200, and you will be “into” an Asian in less than 30 mins.
Read, search, and put in the ground work. Thats how you truly become a conqueror.
[QUOTE=Bfm66;7113122]I have had FIA with a couple, but was wondering if any of the Good / Shanghai / One girls were open to Greek?[/QUOTE]Money tends to open doors. And buttholes.
[QUOTE=BbKingg;7114803]Pepsi is no longer at Eurotouch.[/QUOTE]Great marketing opportunity to replace her with a girl named "Coke" and then eventually kick her out and replace her with "New Coke.”
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7114948]Great marketing opportunity to replace her with a girl named "Coke" and then eventually kick her out and replace her with "New Coke.[/QUOTE]Pepsi Free.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7114946]Money tends to open doors. And buttholes.[/QUOTE]Amen, brother.
Thank you for all the intel and experience you freely share!
Any AMPs near convention center / downtown. I am going to be there next week but will not have personal car. I can uber, but I would rather stay nearby. You can message me privately about which ones to go to. How much to pay and the tip amount.
I would be happy to let you in on some info in Detroit or Orlando.
There is a couple of "good massage" a few "Tokyo Massage" so unless someone is a regular, it is hard to tell which one everyone is talking about.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7114946]Money tends to open doors. And buttholes.[/QUOTE]I was able to do Spock's salutation while sucking on her clit in 69, which sped up the rhythm considerably till my cap-less capitulation.
I asked, but she never did anal and she's not considering it.
She's so damn pretty and sweet, with tasty long clit and lips, the big brain of mine was totally absorbed by her beauty, and she mad me ignore that little wart she has by her nether lips. I sucked the hell out of that clit.
[QUOTE=CostasCarl;7115425]Any AMPs near convention center / downtown. I am going to be there next week but will not have personal car. I can uber, but I would rather stay nearby. You can message me privately about which ones to go to. How much to pay and the tip amount.
I would be happy to let you in on some info in Detroit or Orlando.
There is a couple of "good massage" a few "Tokyo Massage" so unless someone is a regular, it is hard to tell which one everyone is talking about.[/QUOTE]They are about 20-30 minutes away from convention center. Good and Tokyo is located in Renton.
Not sure what's around the downtown. I am sure some folks more familiar would chime in soon.
[QUOTE=SeattleAmpfan;7104381]I saw Bella about a couple weeks ago, nothing special. Didn't even offer a BJ. Haven't seen Ruby (unless Ruby is a new name for Amy).[/QUOTE]Ruby isn't Amy (cuter than more recent Amy, not as cute as previous Amy who was there for years circa maybe 2018-2021? Enjoyed visit with Ruby but likewise didn't get any offers. Heavy emphasis on YMMV is my guess.
Any AMP in the area offer couples massage?
Any AMP in the area offer couples massage?
[QUOTE=CostasCarl;7115425]Any AMPs near convention center / downtown. I am going to be there next week but will not have personal car. I can uber, but I would rather stay nearby. You can message me privately about which ones to go to. How much to pay and the tip amount.
I would be happy to let you in on some info in Detroit or Orlando.
There is a couple of "good massage" a few "Tokyo Massage" so unless someone is a regular, it is hard to tell which one everyone is talking about.[/QUOTE]For a near Convention CTR you got Shangrila on the 2700 block of 4th Ave S.
Easy Uber ride and you could even be incognito and get dropped off in front of Subway follow the path on the side essentially it's behind subway. There's been some winners there but no current line up info. If you visit report back TIA.
[QUOTE=CostasCarl;7115425]Any AMPs near convention center / downtown. I am going to be there next week but will not have personal car. I can uber, but I would rather stay nearby. You can message me privately about which ones to go to. How much to pay and the tip amount.
I would be happy to let you in on some info in Detroit or Orlando.
There is a couple of "good massage" a few "Tokyo Massage" so unless someone is a regular, it is hard to tell which one everyone is talking about.[/QUOTE]I've never been there myself, but I noticed online that La Moon Massage Spa might be in reasonable walking distance from you. 2211 3rd Ave. Wherever you go, please share your experience with us.
Good has three all new ladies: Sofia, Ada, and YoYo. Haven't met then yet but plan to!
Magnolia is back in the game with three new also. Joy is, to be frank, aged out and chubby but still cute. Amy is younger and better body and I suspect will be moderately busy.
But Joanna is a star. 5' 7" Taiwainese with long kinky curled hair, tan skin, cute flat nose, and an all yoga instructor body with perky Bs, bubble but, and lips that grip for dear life when you retract in DG. She can ALMOST DT me and giggled while trying.
Translator app is required because English not so good. But what a fucking sweetheart and a very fun romp. Try standing misg with both her legs over one or both shoulders. She presses down with her ankles and does this hip thrust rotation move that accellerated my launch. Wow.
Katie Spa next door to Magnolia is still plain Coco. Body is great and if she wore makeup I'd be way more open into letting her earn 200 dollars the hard way. But she is NOT a looker without cosmetic assistance.
In every case (except Katie Spa) saying you were sent by Big Monkey won't hurt your chances at a fun session.
Hobby safe and Pay Ling Her Money.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7116024]Good has three all new ladies: Sofia, Ada, and YoYo. Haven't met then yet but plan to!
Magnolia is back in the game with three new also. Joy is, to be frank, aged out and chubby but still cute. Amy is younger and better body and I suspect will be moderately busy.
But Joanna is a star. 5' 7" Taiwainese with long kinky curled hair, tan skin, cute flat nose, and an all yoga instructor body with perky Bs, bubble but, and lips that grip for dear life when you retract in DG. She can ALMOST DT me and giggled while trying.
Translator app is required because English not so good. But what a fucking sweetheart and a very fun romp. Try standing misg with both her legs over one or both shoulders. She presses down with her ankles and does this hip thrust rotation move that accellerated my launch. Wow.
Katie Spa next door to Magnolia is still plain Coco. Body is great and if she wore makeup I'd be way more open into letting her earn 200 dollars the hard way. But she is NOT a looker without cosmetic assistance.
In every case (except Katie Spa) saying you were sent by Big Monkey won't hurt your chances at a fun session.
Hobby safe and Pay Ling Her Money.[/QUOTE]*Laughing* I was actually about to post "Happy New Hoe Day to all who celebrate it". Thanks AF!
I realize that information sharing is a. Careful process, but I thought I'd put this out there to see what I might get. Response via PM is welcome.
I'm looking for a "regular" spot and although I've been exploring a bit I thought the community might help me find it. My preferences are:
Nice: I far prefer a really nice, clean place, regardless of the service levels, over a skanky place with great service. I know that's not exactly the norm, but there it is.
'Therapists': I'm not that guy chasing young 'uns Reasonably attractive is my only ask, even if they're grannies or aunties. Definite soft spot for MILFs.
Service: A sensual handy is fine for me, ideally with some mutual touch. More is nice, but not mandatory.
Location: I don't venture south very often, and I don't go into DT Seattle unless I have to. So ideally North of Seattle, but I'm interested in anything South if it meets the criteria above.
I appreciate any and all suggestions! Many thanks.
Checked out ADA very good time as usual with anyone from good. Tiny cute with a great face. If you've seen Tina at Tokyo, she's like the younger version of her face wise. Got a Quick Look at Sofia she she looked cute too.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7116024]Good has three all new ladies: Sofia, Ada, and YoYo. Haven't met then yet but plan to!
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Bella is back for December rotation, don't remember the other girl's name. Can't go wrong with Bella.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7116024]Good has three all new ladies: Sofia, Ada, and YoYo. Haven't met then yet but plan to!
[/QUOTE]I believe it's the Sofia I had previously seen at Shanghai. Highly recommend if so. Not a stick figure, but filled out very nicely and pretty face. Bubbly personality and is very affectionate. Tight where it really matters.
[QUOTE=AvereageQ;7116487]I believe it's the Sofia I had previously seen at Shanghai. Highly recommend if so. Not a stick figure, but filled out very nicely and pretty face. Bubbly personality and is very affectionate. Tight where it really matters.[/QUOTE]How tall is this Sophia? Is she busty?
[QUOTE=OceanExplorer;7111548]Yumi at Kings remains one of my favorites.[/QUOTE]So Yumi is at Kings Sauna in Lynwood? I want an asian with big tits! Please let me know if that is correct.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;7116024]Good has three all new ladies: Sofia, Ada, and YoYo. Haven't met then yet but plan to![/QUOTE]Hey Aussie, great info as always. You wouldn't happen to know if Pink is still around at Good? Was hoping to get another session in with her before she left but the holidays got in the way. TIA.
[QUOTE=AvereageQ;7116487]I believe it's the Sofia I had previously seen at Shanghai. Highly recommend if so. Not a stick figure, but filled out very nicely and pretty face. Bubbly personality and is very affectionate. Tight where it really matters.[/QUOTE]Yes. Same Sophia. +1 to everything you said about her. Will also mention that her English is great, her personality is adorable, and she is a NAUGHTY FUCKING GIRL.
I'm sitting in the Good parking lot after my visit because I am not ready to drive. She fucked me senseless. Her style is closest to Alyssa and Angela. Just a beautiful innocent face was trippy when she's bouncing on your cock with her hand around your throat begging "Fuck a baby into me, master. " (CFS, as always, was covered just role playing).
I'm not ready to put her on my Mt Rushmore yet, will still need a few visits.
I'd say the top performers in King County right now are still Yao at Phenix and I'll add Sophia at Good. Bella at Tokyo is great, too. Joanna at Magnolia rounds out my "must see" list so far but December just started LOL. They all know me as “Big Monkey” and will likely respond positively if you tell them “hi” from me.
Got a peek with the hallway cameras at the other two girls at Good. They also looked great. Going to be an expensive month.
Thanks for sharing this, Original. Yes I agree it generally supports what I found. Keep in mind my information is second hand, I have no experience beyond being a customer and finding someone willing to share more details than normal.
Also on the other side aka ' study shows. ' there is sometimes confirmation bias at play. Looking for coercion they may ask leading questions, the girls think that's what they want to hear, etc.
Overall though I read the article as a commercial promoting the hobby. Just a short drive from anywhere in the country and a relatively cheap price, pleasure can be found.
Personally I dislike the dubious legal status of the businesses. Leaves them open to be harassed or victimized by customers / police / etc. Agree with whoever in the article says they should just legalize it. Though the state of Washington can't help themselves they would jack the price up at least 50% with their nonsense like when they moved liquor sales out into the grocery stores.
[QUOTE=Original703;7113601]Although it occasionally refutes some of Enigma's findings and reporting below, this article (focused on the estimated $4. 5 B illicit massage industry) generally [B]supports most of Enigma's post[/B].
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2021/04/04/inside-the-45-billion-erotic-massage-parlor-economy/[/URL]
A related topic, probably better addressed in the Rants and Raves thread, is the question of whether sex workers are [I]coerced[/I]: there's a difference between physical coercion and financial coercion. And one person's financial coercion might be another person's financial opportunity. Frankly, I sometimes struggle with that one.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Enigma;7117062]. Agree with whoever in the article says they should just legalize it. Though the state of Washington can't help themselves they would jack the price up at least 50% with their nonsense like when they moved liquor sales out into the grocery stores.[/QUOTE]Decriminalization would be the way. It would prevent harassment by the police but would also keep the government from profiting off a woman's right to sell her body.
[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;7115990]I've never been there myself, but I noticed online that La Moon Massage Spa might be in reasonable walking distance from you. 2211 3rd Ave. Wherever you go, please share your experience with us.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I will.
Long time reader / first time poster.
I'm honestly surprised by how sparse the options are downtown, and I've been hoping that more open up with RTO and so forth. There are sever scattered throughout the International District, with Comfort and Spirit on Jackson probably being the two most prominent / established. But there's several others as you travel east up Jackson (toward the Vietnamese part of I'd) and south into the rest of I'd. But the options are still rather limited: it's hard to find anything other than HJ, only Spirit has TS, and a lot of providers are on the older / less attractive side. Plus I'd isn't exactly downtown and can be kinda sketchy.
There's also Shangrila (name changes from time to time) behind the Subway in SoDo (conveniently located near the SoDo light rail stop), and they do CFS and TS, but providers are older and it's still somewhat out of the way.
And then there's La Moon in Belltown which used to be pretty hot but has kinda died down and the surroundings are also fairly sketchy.
The next most accessible options might be in Cap Hill (very limited) and you District.
I'm not aware of any in downtown proper or SLU.
Why aren't there more downtown? What are you people even doing on your lunch breaks? Would be so nice if Good / Tokyo opened up a branch near downtown.
Holy shit, Sophia is the best wow. I've dreamed of several good girls, but Sophia is my number 1 overall. Just amazing, she'll treat you like a king. Unreal experience. Absolutely incredible, I'm completely mesmerized.
[QUOTE=IzziBoi112;7117659]Holy shit, Sophia is the best wow. I've dreamed of several good girls, but Sophia is my number 1 overall. Just amazing, she'll treat you like a king. Unreal experience. Absolutely incredible, I'm completely mesmerized.[/QUOTE]Awesome! Hopefully after you come back down to earth you will share the reasons why you feel that way 😉.
First stop after getting off the airplane. Got the text message that YoYo was waiting for me.
Provider Details: Beauty:3/5, Body:4/5, Personality:5/5, Service:4/5.
Overall Ranking: 4. 00.
YoYo have a very mature sexiness about her. She's about 5'5" at 130 lbs roughly. Very attractive round face with deep piercing eyes. Her lips are incredibly soft; very active tongue. Her body is very nice; lovely curves. Her skin is very soft. Lovely set of MM C's. Fantastic ass. Beautifully trimmed kitty.
Service Details: (4/5). DFK, P2 P Slide, BBBJ, BLS, DATY, TUMA, 69, CFS.
YoYo led me into the room and immediately gets undressed and begins DFK. She raises one leg and begins a very stimulating P2 P rub that left a slim train on my tip; I've never been that close to penetration without actual penetration. She really knows how to get the excitement up. She drops down for some BJ action that was deep, slow, and wet. She quickly discovered that massaging my nipples while DT is one way to get me over the edge. She's very skill at the BLS; very smooth and painless. She had me lay down and continued with her amazing BJ with transitioned to some great TUMA action. I wanted to return the favor with some DATY, but she didn't really let get it the way I like to. Instead she suggested 69 to give me a little taste of that lovely kitty. Then she spun around and said, "I want your dick in my pussy. " She hops onboard RCG. Then turned around for some CG, and she is very tight. We spent the rest of the time switching positions. Hard to tell which was her favorite, but the BIG O happened in Mish. She definitely responded better to the slow deep strokes, and she took everything very well, even though I'm sure there was some discomfort, or complete enjoyment from a few positions. We finally finished up in prone where I unloaded on her back. And, just when I thought we were finished, she slid from under me and did another round of BJ to get whatever she thought was left.
Conclusion: YoYo is absolutely amazing! She has a very dark eroticism about her. The way she looks at you during the session leaves no doubt as to what she is feeling at the moment. Her body and attitude are amazing. She is definitely ATF material.
Recommended: YES.
[QUOTE=IzziBoi112;7116296]Bella is back for December rotation, don't remember the other girl's name. Can't go wrong with Bella.[/QUOTE]She was just in spokane, I can tell you she is amazing. Tell her superman from spokane says hi. She will treat you well. Trust me.