"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Reffin2;1976182]
I admit that right now it is hard for me to adequately measure the sugar. We're planning for this upcoming rendezvous to be an overnighter and I don't want to lowball or give away the farm. Again, I am always open to receiving advise and criticism; so by all means continue my education.

R2.[/QUOTE]$ is great if you can score that, but a lot depends on your game, age, location, and patience. I would ask her what she hopes for. It's like any negotiation. You try to get the other party to throw out the first number.

[QUOTE=DogRice;1976315]HollywoodGuy is still the man!! .

I have been around the bowl for about a year (Thanks for all folks here). Unfortunately, I got several SBs, and I was only able to score one UTR w / $ Maybe my geolocation is tougher market. Scoring $ SBs are tough in San Diego. I have suspended my hunting activities for several months now. Itching to go back.[/QUOTE]It is slimmer pickings down there. And my demographic is AA or mixed (disproportionately represented and less demanding) but young (18 to 22) so less girls to choose from. And at least half spinners (not too many of these either). You must hit them up on day one. Good luck. It only takes a few minutes a day to find the new girls and send them an intro message. I search up to 50 miles from my zip code.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1976485]$ is great if you can score that, but a lot depends on your game, age, location, and patience. I would ask her what she hopes for. It's like any negotiation. You try to get the other party to throw out the first number.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree on one thing. I always throw out the first number and never negotiate. (It's not likely anyone is going to ask for less.) But I also let them know they can pass on intercourse on the first date as long as they get me off. At least 50% still go all the way, anyway.

ATF is on SA and SDFM looking for more daddies. She is up front needing more money for total support. I know a lot of you don't care about your SB fucking other guys but I don't like it. I'm starting to phase her out because she is obviously becoming an UTR and career SB. So:

SB #2.

Is on tonight for a booty call. She is a delicious fuck at $.25 but there is no emotional benefit. Total time 20 minutes.

ATF #4.

Is on for tomorrow at $325. She is emotionally satisfying but is still a 1+ hour Booty Call since I don't have time to spend with her. If I could get time off from the warden for good behavior she would spend all night and I would get my moneys worth.

So I'm thinking moving her out when she finds a new Daddy. She is OK with multiple daddies and wants me in the game to build her financial stability. She wants more $ ,so she gets a new Daddy and loses one. Maybe the new one will pay better.

My baby at work... Yeah she dances. And quite well. 5' 5' and 102.

My first SB. Nando 1 to the core. 5' 2' and 105. With 32 D's that I paid for back in the day. She just got out and dropped by to get 15 dollars. How the mighty have fallen.

If any girl tries to fuck with me my roommate will kick their ass. 5' 1' and 105.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1977053]If any girl tries to fuck with me my roommate will kick their ass. 5' 1' and 105.[/QUOTE]HG- You are maestro, master, guru of SD world. Hands down, you are my guru. Hope I can learn from your experience and wisdom.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1977047]My first SB. Nando 1 to the core. 5' 2' and 105. With 32 D's that I paid for back in the day. She just got out and dropped by to get 15 dollars. How the mighty have fallen.[/QUOTE]She looks mighty cute but I do know how fucked up they can be. Very nice TaTas . I hope you got your moneys worth before she showed her true colors

Your Roommate is hot! I love Asians.

I saw someone mention the sugar daddy today site in an earlier post and I wanted to comment. I'm actually in Ohio, and new to the sugar daddy thing but I have had some success with this site. It is completely free, which is nice but the pickings are kind of slim. I ended up meeting with a very cute 18 year old for $ per date, and also a thick but cute AA woman for the same price. Pretty much every woman I contact on there has responded and most were open to meeting and my price range, but I only have so much time to meet. Anyways, it seems like I don't have much competition which is making things easier for me. But for a free site, it may be worth it for you guys to check it out.

[QUOTE=DogSun;1977587]I saw someone mention the sugar daddy today site in an earlier post and I wanted to comment. I'm actually in Ohio, and new to the sugar daddy thing but I have had some success with this site. It is completely free, which is nice but the pickings are kind of slim. I ended up meeting with a very cute 18 year old for $ per date, and also a thick but cute AA woman for the same price. Pretty much every woman I contact on there has responded and most were open to meeting and my price range, but I only have so much time to meet. Anyways, it seems like I don't have much competition which is making things easier for me. But for a free site, it may be worth it for you guys to check it out.[/QUOTE]Lucky you, because I was on that site recently and I got what I paid for.

Hey hollywood guy (and anyone else living nearby) do you have any experience with orange county girls? Is it more costly down there?

I just wanted to stop by and say Hi to the brotherhood, I know it's been awhile. Looks like I have a lot of reports to catch up on! I had a few people PM me wondering if I got busted or something, so I just wanted to give a quick update.

I'm doing fine, I haven't been busted by the warden or even come close to exposure lately. It's just I decided to scale back my Sugar Bowl activities a bit and I'm also working on an interesting project which I'll share with Senior Members on this board very soon. So I just haven't had too much time on my hands.

As mentioned I'm really trying to streamline my SB activities lately and tighten the belt. Most of my SBs from the summer have been let go or are in the wind, and I've let my memberships expire on the SD sites. Interestingly enough, my current two SBs who are smokin' hot but also have small budget demands, I found from doing a CL ad. Earlier last year when I posted some CL ads, I got spam or hideous responses. Pretty much a waste of time. But I recently decided to do a little panning in CL and I struck gold surprisingly. Both girls are new to the Sugar Bowl, both are educated, both are young and hot with modest financial demands. I've never ever got such good responses from CL even a couple of years ago, so the Sugar Bowl still has amazing ways of surprising me.

I just wanted to pop in, but I hope all my brothers here are doing well. I'll try to get back more into the swing of things around here.

- JGS.

First, a thank you to my colleagues, advisors, and teachers here, although if any of you actually know me, it was under another name and in another place and a pretty long time ago in hobby years. I have been actively exploring, M&G'ing, and closing deals via the usual SD sites for a few months, making dumb mistakes and then less of them, meeting grossly inappropriate potential SBs, and then less of them, and eventually finding my niche in a somewhat older demographic (28-35) than many here. I'm lucky enough to be okay with 1500 or so / month in total compensation, maybe even a little more, for a steady, albeit compartmentalized relationship. Its actually harder to meet interested and sane women in this demographic than in younger ones- many hardened and GPS women here, professional SBs, if you will, Daddied in the past by guys with more discretionary funds than good sense.

I'm concerned about the tax implications of providing that much cash support to any one woman, and in particular crossing the 14 K / year threshold for reporting of gifts. I have absolutely no confidence that whomever I develop a relationship with won't eventually behave in a way that invites audit, or that brings adverse scrutiny for my own unwillingness to file a gift tax return, even though I am millions and millions short of the lifetime limit for actually having to pay anything.

So- is the 14 K (roughly 1150/ mo) limit why some of you have diversified, to so speak, or otherwise kept your outlay down? Are there methods I'm not thinking of to supplement cash gifts with paying selected monthly bills or routine perks, such as spa or club memberships? Have any of you actually caught the eye of the IRS in the course of your relationships, or been threatened with same when the heat has come down?

Feel free to back-channel, but a public post might help others more than me. As some point I will post a bit more about my early experiences, which in some ways are a "how don't" for others.

TR.

[QUOTE=Wnde8;1978681]Hey hollywood guy (and anyone else living nearby) do you have any experience with orange county girls? Is it more costly down there?[/QUOTE]It seems that the anaheim area is very good fishing, just too far from my house to venture down there. And lots of activity in the LBC.