She is the Asian who came in seemed good had a drink seen donation asked for condom and said she prefers hers and said mine was open BS brand new asked me to walk her to her car and get hers and took off. Red Grand Am plate number available.
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She is the Asian who came in seemed good had a drink seen donation asked for condom and said she prefers hers and said mine was open BS brand new asked me to walk her to her car and get hers and took off. Red Grand Am plate number available.
Hey Soccerfan 4245 is this the dawn that we once knew and was kind of goofy? OG2 Jim.
[QUOTE=LithoFox;3618034]She is the Asian who came in seemed good had a drink seen donation asked for condom and said she prefers hers and said mine was open BS brand new asked me to walk her to her car and get hers and took off. Red Grand Am plate number available.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link or more information on her?
Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much risk.
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3627654]Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much riskI had been seeing her twice a week or so for 2 months. It had become fairly routine for me to pay her upfront so she could cover her room before we went to my place. [ / QOUTE].
I PM'd some of the guys I referred to her, but this makes me realize I should have posted a report for all.
I had been seeing her on average twice a week at 100 per and thought we had a level of trust. I routinely paid her upfront so she cover her room for the day.
The Wed before Labor Day I did exactly that. She came back out crying and said she needed another $100 to cover the security deposit as her debit card wasn't working. I gave her that as well. She disappeared back inside and didn't come back out. Eventually she texted and said she had to change rooms and would be a bit. She didn't get back to me until after my time window had closed. She promised she would make it up to me. All previous experiences had been positive so I trusted her.
No call on Thurs, but Fri morning I get a call. She's in hysterics, has no money for her room, prices are up because all the Harley people are in town and most other hotels are full for the same reason.
I called the hotel myself and they verified they had one room left at $180/ height. I met her and she came out crying and hyperventilating. What a great actress.
I gave her the money and she disappeared back inside, then pulled the same "I need to change rooms" crap. This time I offered to come in and help, but she said no, the hotel was already getting suspicious of her.
Hours passed and at 7 PM she finally messaged me saying she was sorry, she was so exhausted by the time she was done moving she had fallen asleep. I offered to come get her, no response and that's pretty much the last I heard from her. She's into me for over $400.
To add insult to injury, reading reviews here and elsewhere over Labor Day weekend, she had seen someone else Wed afternoon, after I had given her $220, at the DEEPLY discounted rate of $60. On Friday, after I had given her $200 she saw 2 other guys while I was waiting to hear from her. One at $60 and one at $80.
She did reach out to me about 6 weeks ago saying she was sorry, she missed me, and she wanted to make it right. I told her that would be great and asked what her plan was to make it right. Still waiting on a response.
She's a hot little spinner and a great fuck, but now we have several reports of interrupted sessions and another report of a cash and dash or scam similar to what I experienced. See her at your own risk and I wouldn't pay until services are provided satisfactorily.
There comes a point in a quality providers career, when the habits outstrip the flow of money coming in, even when it is substantial. I hate to say, the habit, whatever it is, always wins. Truth, integrity, honesty, all play second fiddle. I know many have said this over time, but, trust is not something that should ever be given in even low to moderate levels to any provider, no matter how they have acted in the past. We always seem to get burned in the end.
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3629909][QUOTE=GunSmoke;3627654]Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much riskI had been seeing her twice a week or so for 2 months. It had become fairly routine for me to pay her upfront so she could cover her room before we went to my place. [ / QOUTE].
I PM'd some of the guys I referred to her, but this makes me realize I should have posted a report for all.
I had been seeing her on average twice a week at 100 per and thought we had a level of trust. I routinely paid her upfront so she cover her room for the day.
The Wed before Labor Day I did exactly that. She came back out crying and said she needed another $100 to cover the security deposit as her debit card wasn't working. I gave her that as well. She disappeared back inside and didn't come back out. Eventually she texted and said she had to change rooms and would be a bit. She didn't get back to me until after my time window had closed. She promised she would make it up to me. All previous experiences had been positive so I trusted her.
No call on Thurs, but Fri morning I get a call. She's in hysterics, has no money for her room, prices are up because all the Harley people are in town and most other hotels are full for the same reason.
I called the hotel myself and they verified they had one room left at $180/ height. I met her and she came out crying and hyperventilating. What a great actress.
I gave her the money and she disappeared back inside, then pulled the same "I need to change rooms" crap. This time I offered to come in and help, but she said no, the hotel was already getting suspicious of her.
Hours passed and at 7 PM she finally messaged me saying she was sorry, she was so exhausted by the time she was done moving she had fallen asleep. I offered to come get her, no response and that's pretty much the last I heard from her. She's into me for over $400.
To add insult to injury, reading reviews here and elsewhere over Labor Day weekend, she had seen someone else Wed afternoon, after I had given her $220, at the DEEPLY discounted rate of $60. On Friday, after I had given her $200 she saw 2 other guys while I was waiting to hear from her. One at $60 and one at $80.
She did reach out to me about 6 weeks ago saying she was sorry, she missed me, and she wanted to make it right. I told her that would be great and asked what her plan was to make it right. Still waiting on a response.
She's a hot little spinner and a great fuck, but now we have several reports of interrupted sessions and another report of a cash and dash or scam similar to what I experienced. See her at your own risk and I wouldn't pay until services are provided satisfactorily. [ / QUOTE].
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3627654]Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much risk.[/QUOTE]There are enough on here that will take it as a challenge or maybe a sign to take advantage and see her anyway. It is a recurring story on here when someone reports a ripoff and everyone wants the contact info so they can get in line. I thought the ripoff alerts were a warning to stay away and the lack of calls may teach them a lesson but from what I have seen it gets them more.
[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;3630022]There are enough on here that will take it as a challenge or maybe a sign to take advantage and see her anyway. It is a recurring story on here when someone reports a ripoff and everyone wants the contact info so they can get in line. I thought the ripoff alerts were a warning to stay away and the lack of calls may teach them a lesson but from what I have seen it gets them more.[/QUOTE]I've had my share of ripoffs, but the ones that get to me are the ones I became a regular of. Theres 2 that I remember everything about. Seen each at least a dozen times and always tipped and 'helped' them out. Then when its time to even up. Gone or no calls returned. Not really sure of my point here but I was able to learn from my generosity and not put myself in the position over a good piece of ass in a while now.
[QUOTE=Ps1999;3630040]I've had my share of ripoffs, but the ones that get to me are the ones I became a regular of. Theres 2 that I remember everything about. Seen each at least a dozen times and always tipped and 'helped' them out. Then when its time to even up. Gone or no calls returned. Not really sure of my point here but I was able to learn from my generosity and not put myself in the position over a good piece of ass in a while now.[/QUOTE]That is usually my scenario also. It is almost to the point that it may do better to just give them a horrible review to keep steer others away since a ripoff report just gets them more calls.
[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3629986]There comes a point in a quality providers career, when the habits outstrip the flow of money coming in, even when it is substantial. I hate to say, the habit, whatever it is, always wins. Truth, integrity, honesty, all play second fiddle. I know many have said this over time, but, trust is not something that should ever be given in even low to moderate levels to any provider, no matter how they have acted in the past. We always seem to get burned in the end.[/QUOTE]You're spot on Bro, and the killer is that after 25 years in the hobby I KNOW this. She just played me like a fiddle. No rush full GFE, virtually everything on the table. First few visits didn't even ask for the donation until after. Then just part of the donation up front to cover the cheap rent at the notel she was at. Walked me right down the primrose path and I dutifully followed right along.
The real irony is, as you mentioned, in forgetting the habit always comes first. I was giving her great reviews, steering guys to her right and left, and by seeing her twice a week I was on pace to drop $10,000+ a year on her. She burned all that for just over $400, right here, right now.
HS.
[QUOTE=Ps1999;3630040]I've had my share of ripoffs, but the ones that get to me are the ones I became a regular of. Theres 2 that I remember everything about. Seen each at least a dozen times and always tipped and 'helped' them out. Then when its time to even up. Gone or no calls returned. Not really sure of my point here but I was able to learn from my generosity and not put myself in the position over a good piece of ass in a while now.[/QUOTE]That's what I've done with a well known escort who isn't mentioned too often here. Begging she needs funds for a room. I just gifted her 2 nights at the notel and moved on. Didn't want to "take it out in trade" and haven't gone back either. Told her was last time and don't expect it again. Less drama that way.
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3630123]You're spot on Bro, and the killer is that after 25 years in the hobby I KNOW this. She just played me like a fiddle. No rush full GFE, virtually everything on the table. First few visits didn't even ask for the donation until after. Then just part of the donation up front to cover the cheap rent at the notel she was at. Walked me right down the primrose path and I dutifully followed right along.
The real irony is, as you mentioned, in forgetting the habit always comes first. I was giving her great reviews, steering guys to her right and left, and by seeing her twice a week I was on pace to drop $10,000+ a year on her. She burned all that for just over $400, right here, right now.
HS.[/QUOTE]"Trust but verify".
[QUOTE=OldBear;3630239]"Trust but verify".[/QUOTE]What would happen if we put them on COD! Let them know that you want to meet her good reviews, but because of the Cash and Dash and etc. You will pay after services are complete.
Most likely they would say no. Until it starts to hurt the flow of donations.
Just thinking what happens to real businesses.
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3630473]What would happen if we put them on COD! Let them know that you want to meet her good reviews, but because of the Cash and Dash and etc. You will pay after services are complete.
Most likely they would say no. Until it starts to hurt the flow of donations.
Just thinking what happens to real businesses.[/QUOTE]Wish we could do that. I prefer playing elsewhere because most of the local talent is scary.
[QUOTE=OldBear;3631430]Wish we could do that. I prefer playing elsewhere because most of the local talent is scary.[/QUOTE]Start an Escrow website for the industry.